Tyranids vs Space Marines! New Edition. Warhammer 40k battle. 

Thanks for this, I was super concerned that balistus just got away with murder xD

Same

Question; did lieutenant Norris kill those Nids with Roundhouse kicks?

So did you have two doctrines in effect at the same time? Fall Back/Shoot + Advance/Charge?

@@theinquisitionsparrot6749 yea 😅

Guard players: it hurts to lose a platoon.

@@dlee9726 Tyranid players: What is this “hurt” you speak of?

Necron players: "Wait, did I lose something?"

@@sanguisdominus necrons: finally!

Ork players: It hurtz 2oo looze in jenral

Lol. Blue is lucky (quote from a xenos too)

Yeah well... RED IS FASTER.

Yeah well... PURPLE IS SNEAKIER

Yeah well... BLACK IS DARKER

Yeah well…YELLOW IS DAKKIER

Agreed!

Definitely

WITH MORE NIDSS

😂

No no, you had it right. Marine Steaks were high for those Nids.

Wow. Thank you!

Totally agree. Best out there in pace, showing the board, explaining the rules. Games Workshop themselves pale in comparison. Thanks for what you guys do!

I'm humbled you can pick out the paint style

@@PlayOnTabletop Seriously dude, your painting skills are excellent.

@@PlayOnTabletop It's iconic, I've watched the Ultramarines battle reports one too many times.

@Play On Tabletop haha well I have a similarish style that i got inspired to do from seeing your ultramarines. I just don't use the final white highlight and I do a lot more weathering! But I absolutely love your work and would love to see you work flow! I know I could learn a thing or 2 from it! Keep up the great painting tac!

"Hand over your flesh. We demand it."

It's not actually a carnifex, they made it a new bioform! It's the might Screamer Killer!

@@FlyConeGuy Codex Imperialis, page 96: The Carnifex is known as the Screaming Killer by the warriors of the Imperium...

@@BrianFlyingPenguin I believe the screamer killer is a specific subtype of carnifex

Zoat is so rogue Trader. Great

@@derklemmbausteinbahner Why, thank you.

Came here to say exactly this! I wanna watch tournaments in this format!

@@fresh_kerfer Agreed! Tournaments would be great with a format like this.

I'll take this instead of the constant football games in a heartbeat.

BELIEVE IN STEVE!

The box set is apparently not balanced on points with the space Marines having an edge. Not as bad as the Necrons one last edition, but still not equal.

Tbh, some of these tyranid dice rolls were awful. But, it is the same thing i saw at the official game that GW uploaded, these tyranids have pretty bad AP, their shooting and melee often did almost nothing to the marines, who could consistently make saves. Marines also have a lot of rerrolls, and oaths of moment is basically death for the unit you choose. However, we still have to see more units, maybe bringing some tyranids who are more anti elite.

Me, also an old school Tyranid fan: "Wait, can WE fall back, shoot, and then charge back in? No. Of course we can't."

As a Tyranid, WHO THE FOR CK PUTS LICKERS IN THE FRONT LINE???

This is just the beginning. We have a lot more on the way including a How-to-play video

@@PlayOnTabletop I humbly request approximately *ALL* of the Tyranids.

@@PlayOnTabletop Glad to hear that, the 9th edition how to play video is what helped me even get into 40k in the first place. I basically owe the love I have for the hobby now to you guys.

In our upcoming How to Play video we have a fun interaction with him. He does have a gun and an interesting mechanic. All Leaders give a buff to the unit they attach to and in this case, he was not attached to a unit.

Goonhammer wrote that he attaches to Gravis units and gives them Lethal Hits. A pretty good buff on something like Aggressors, however, there's nothing to attach him to in this box, so players can't make use of him and he has to sit back.

@@antongrigoryev6381 So kinda like phobos lieutenant and the second terminator leader.

@@ForTheJerusalem Yes. Though Phobos Lieutenant has Lone Operative, he's pretty good by himself too. And Terminators can put out some hurt even when not protected. For Apothecary, buffs seem to be the only thing he offers.

He has OC 3 and if the squad he is leading kills a unit on an objective he goes to OC 9. He is meant to sit on objectives with a gravis unit. Might even make heavy int really good for holding home objective, eating a charge and having a ton of OC still

Screamer totally whiffed vs the dread. I am disappoint.

​@@barnz3000 right? That was brutal!

She threw the neurotyrant right into the middle of the field. He's got 18" range, ignores cover and had cannon fodder to help him retreat even if he got caught in the line of fire. This wasn't a fair match to judge either army on.

Except she obviously doesn't know how to run a swarm

YESSSSSSSSS TEAM TYRANIDS!!!!

I’m technically team genestealers cults but their still part of the hive mind, so… GO NIDS!!!

😮😮 noo...bugs must dieee

I hate inform you, but they lost

It is a vastly different experience from how we started 9th for sure.

@@PlayOnTabletop I can’t wait to see you guys when 11th comes out lol hopefully it’s all going like clockwork by then. It’s amazing to see you guys refining your style and building a strong community around something you’re all passionate about!

Yes, it wasn't our best recorded audio. Steve placed his mic to face away from him so we did struggle a bit with his audio.

@@PlayOnTabletop I just thought it was funny. What you see in your head vs. reality lol

@@PlayOnTabletop What was the song used in that clip?

Good tip! We admit it is hard to learn and optimize everything as we embark down the journey of 10th edition.

@@PlayOnTabletop Absolutely. It's a learning experience for everyone.

@@PlayOnTabletop IIRC lore-wise the Psychophage was purpose-built to hunt down and eat Psykers? If so, easy way to remember where to point that scary hungry maw :P And the Barbgaunts can stop the pesky psykers running away.

Hope you have a lot of fun with 10th ed and the Deathwatch. Happy tabletop gaming

Thank you for watching! I am glad you like the energy and appreciate the goals of the channel. We also know it is not for everyone but when it lands for people like yourself we know we can continue doing this in our style. So thank you very much for the support.

The choice to bring only one source of AP higher than 1 certainly feels like a maladaptive one. The neurotyrant attack being low AP was the real shock for me. Did nid lists really need two new HQs specialized in hurting light infantry?

Lmao the "Mommy?! 🥺" had me

This is the basic game from the leviathan rule book, so the victory conditions are quite simplified. Don't worry, the new mission formats are quite varied and make for some unique games!

How different was 5th edition from today's WH40K tabletop scene?

I am going to say something that not many people, if anybody, will say in the comments but here it goes: Rebecca is not a good player and there were quite a few misplays and throughout the battle report. Keep in mind that she is a very new player though, so that is to be expected, she will get better with time and experience. The box scenario doesn't always play like that and the Tyranids have huge potential, you just need to pilot them well.

@@Dracobyte here are some ways 5th was different: • Units had built-in abilities (no CP/strategems). • Pre-measuring wasn't allowed. You would declare your target first, then shoot. If you were out of weapon range, you couldn't shoot or elect another unit within range to shoot. • Split fire wasn't allowed without special rules or wargear - a unit had to declare all its attacks to one enemy unit. • Sweeping Advance allowed you to wipe a unit after a successful assault phase. • Target opportunity tests, (may not have been in 5th?) you had to pass a leadership test to shoot any unit that wasn't the closest. • Vehicles had armor and a different amount depending on its orientation (front, side, rear). They also had weapon facing and degrees of fire - example many sponson weapons could only fire in a 90° arc. • Vehicles had glancing and penetrating damage tables to reference. They also remained on the table after they were "wrecked" and became terrain. Additionally, vehicles could move at "different speeds" within their move characteristic and would therefore generate different effects. • Hits and Wounds were calculated/referenced from a table. • Template weapons and scattering. • It was played on a 6'x4' table. • There were only three phases: Movement, Shooting, Assault.

@@zarlus8 thank you so much for your answer!

Thank you! They were rushed. These were all painted in less than a week and were being painted up to deployment (actually some were painted and handed to the players for deployment)

@@PlayOnTabletop I wouldn't have thought that at all. They look great!

As long as they dont drop the ball on codex creep.

Death Guard players do not share that sentiment

@@theturnc0at Nor do the Kin

@@theturnc0at nor do CSM... my poor dreads and FW stuff

he used insane bravery to pass the test, so It wasn't battleshocked

They messed this up you can't use insane bravery against shadow in the warp. You can only use insane bravery in the battleshock step. Shadow happens before this is the Command phase.

@@byrongotchaShadow happens in the command phase. Whether it’s the battleshock step… no idea, would like a clarification on that

Oooh! That’s a good catch. We may have missed this.

This was only around 1k points so 2k still going to be around 3 hours

Well they are playing at a smaller points level than usual, It’ll play faster, but maybe not that much faster.

I've seen 1k games take twice as long as this. I'm hoping even larger games can be done quickly with the new format.

Thank you!

It's highly underpowered, especially compared to oaths of the moment

@@DarthAuxilia Underpowered against Marines, sure. Probably not underpowered against Guard or similar.

@Shadowmancy91 now that I think about it, marines do probably have a real good leadership

you should not be able to use CP to cancel it. Check the insane bravery rule

Yeah, looking at the strat you can only use it in your own command phase, so it can’t be used to stop shadow in the warp. Still, new rules, easily missed. Also still underpowered compared to oaths, which looks kinda miserable to play against in smaller games like this

And shadow in the warp is once per game. The Marines get to pick a unit every turn to vaporize. Totally fair and balanced

If we think about "Apothecary" in the traditional sense they made and sold medicine but were not field medics. The visual of an Apothecary just waiting until they need to go grab a Geneseed sounds like it could be right.

@@PlayOnTabletop in "Galaxy in Flames" there were Apothecarys on the Battlefield, maybe in the second or third rank but their job was also taking care of the wounded marines... maybe it is a "pre 40k thing" ;)

Absolutely needs to be once per game. Not every round

@@joshual6305 yeah well Spez Marinz iz da best...

Yep! We’re almost done

We are working on it as we speak! It is a huge video so taking us a lot longer to produce but should be out soon

You got it!

Dice Tell Stories. Both players had great attitudes despite what the dice were doing to them so we appreciate both for being so amazing with it.

Sorry about that. We realized way too late (after the game) that Steve's mic was pointed away from him

@@PlayOnTabletop No problem, glad you caught it. It was a great game anyway! Do all combi-weapons really hit with the same profile? That was the only bit I found confusing, otherwise 10th looks sweeeet.

Combi weapons is a single profile. The benefits seem to be in the keywords. It took a bit for us to get used to it.

Also, R.I.P. headphone users at 0:28. 🤯

And were very fun to paint!

Against Ld7 or higher it's a lot more devastating

Apparently, the screamer killer is kind of a unique model that's different from the carnifex

@@DarthAuxilia screamer killer was just a variation of carnifex that you could run, this is the screamer killer getting it's very own model.

@@kendalflongbeard2935 yeah I just meant that it's confirmed the carnifex model isn't changing, and there give the screamer killer a new one