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u-blox M8P RTK test on multi-rotor 

iforce2d
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RTK on a UAV is more useful to increase accuracy of photogrammetry etc than to improve aircraft control, but it still shows a noticeable improvement over a standard GPS module.

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@joemwiti2316
@joemwiti2316 4 месяца назад
Very extensive tests. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your findings.
@foxabilo
@foxabilo 6 лет назад
Very interesting stuff, especially the drift over time tracking at the end. I really think you should try the supplied u‑blox antenna unless you have found a serious detrimental effect on the magnetometer. In our testing the antenna magnet only had significant effect when closer than 3cm to the magno. But that needs to be confirmed on your setup. The drift over time and the position repeatability was "not so great" and I can only put it down to either software or bad multipath rejection with that 4$ antenna assuming the static reference gps module had a decent period to settle in survey mode.
@donaldheon
@donaldheon 6 лет назад
really looking fwd to the new waypoints offered in inav, without the need for an external app. and also a test video when it becomes available.
@SniperUSMC
@SniperUSMC 2 года назад
M8N looks pretty close, especially for about $21. I guess I could figure out a way to compensate for its errors. 1 to 1.5 meters would be ok for the autonomous rover/mower I'm building. My lot is only 688 square meters in size. Again, great videos! I've learned a lot, thanks!
@mistercohaagen
@mistercohaagen 6 лет назад
Can't wait to see the rover experiments ; )
@arevollS
@arevollS 6 лет назад
mistercohaagen i am waiting for that too :-D
@zab6stringer
@zab6stringer 4 года назад
Wow !! This is a really great video and is a really good field test of the unit. Thankyou it.
@smerkkwads3235
@smerkkwads3235 6 лет назад
I have not seen one of those build in a long time. Nice😃
@MichelPASTOR
@MichelPASTOR 6 лет назад
You might be able to get more horizontal position precision by playing with nav_mc_pos_xy_p, nav_mc_pos_xy_i, nav_mc_pos_xy_d, nav_mc_vel_xy_p, nav_mc_vel_xy_i, and nav_mc_vel_xy_d. The position controller is feeding the input of the velocity controller. Did you try playing with them ?
@oferpo
@oferpo 6 лет назад
outstanding video
@isojed
@isojed 6 лет назад
note that electronic barometers are also sensitive to (sun)light...
@aminezitouni8427
@aminezitouni8427 6 лет назад
That's what I was looking for, RTH function using ublox GPS but it will be so great if it a board Arduino based quad, Thank u anyway.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
multiwii can do that, better use a mega2560 though: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-21RlK_0YCQM.html
@aminezitouni8427
@aminezitouni8427 6 лет назад
iforce2d, I am following your channel and I support your tutorials since 2 years, you do a great job with all these videos drones. You know, its helped me so much in my project of end of study. so thank you a lot friend.
@tommykarlsson3077
@tommykarlsson3077 6 лет назад
The reason for inav overshooting the position hold on RTH is probably the pos hold pid parameters not being tuned enough. Try increasing the derivative and you should get rid of this behaviour.
@igorchuevskyi5771
@igorchuevskyi5771 6 лет назад
Hi, As I know you are using Hobbywing 4in1 ESCs with the BlHeli firmware. What motor timings are you using and was the Damped Light option turned on?
@yxhankun
@yxhankun 6 лет назад
How far must a GSM antenna or WiFi antenna stay away from a speaker taken out from a resident telephone set? How two antennas (GSM n WIFI antenna) apart from each other? Should GSM antenna place horizontally?
@priyanshuroy1119
@priyanshuroy1119 6 лет назад
Please show how you setup gps with f3 flight controller.
@priyanshuroy1119
@priyanshuroy1119 6 лет назад
With a quadcopter if you can.
@barisbayram10
@barisbayram10 6 лет назад
👍👍👍
@shawng5799
@shawng5799 6 лет назад
I am just about to start a kit build using these components would it be OK to ask a newbie question. Do you have to do a calibration dance (turn it around 3 times) like you do with Phantoms and the like before each flight? Cheers!
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
Yes, but it's not for the GPS, and you don't need to do it before every flight. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lEY-gmt6ijg.html
@shawng5799
@shawng5799 6 лет назад
Thanks for that! Just never see anyone do it with one of these and whilst I fly toy grade right now I have to do it every flight. Once again thanks and subbed. ;)
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
It's all in the docs bro :) github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Sensor-calibration ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-compass-calibration-in-mission-planner.html
@oferpo
@oferpo 6 лет назад
whats the best flight controller with gps combo at the moment?
@LongusFPV
@LongusFPV 6 лет назад
One question, how do you run a hex setup with an omnibus f3? I can't. M5+6 are shared with uart3, and I need all 3 uarts for telemetry, gps and receiver. Maybe softserial? But there are no pins left.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
Yeah I ran into that problem too. I put my receiver onto UART2, and the gps onto UART1. For telemetry I will be using the OSD which runs on SPI so it doesn't steal any UARTs. The only pins remaining that look even remotely possible for softserial might be M7+8 but I think you'd need to compile your own build to get it to happen. In some ways my good old F1 flip32 was more convenient, it flies great on a very early iNav version and has no problem connecting all these peripherals. One of the common points claimed as an advantage of moving from F1 to F3 is that you get more UARTs, but if you don't actually get to use them in reality I have to wonder if it's actually a step forward.
@LongusFPV
@LongusFPV 6 лет назад
Thank you, I can at least get it flying that way, and have RTH, but I wanted to use a 3dr radio and mission planner with it, probably not possible. I will have another try with Ardupilot on PXFMINI and RPI2, which brings up a whole bunch of other problems, linux hacking etc, but well, it would be boring without these challenges. Whish you all the best and looking forward to more videos from you. Mark
@mokolo
@mokolo 5 лет назад
How much does this set-up cost without the drone
@amozov-x7544
@amozov-x7544 5 лет назад
I tried different settings. Anyway, accuracy even within a meter does not fit. From 10 flight times, it is still 2-3 times to return more than a meter from the take-off point. 1.5 meters; 1.2 meters. Does rtk work with such accuracy?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 5 лет назад
As I mentioned in my summary, flight control is not really a good use of RTK because there is too much outside influence (wind, compass accuracy etc). On top of this the flight controller is not programmed to be very fussy about precise positioning, it's main purpose is just to land near enough to the target. What you need for really great positioning is an environment where for example, if the vehicle decides to move 30cm, it really will move 30cm precisely. In other words, a ground vehicle with good friction contact to the ground and ideally some secondary method of measurement like rotary encoders on the wheels.
@amozov-x7544
@amozov-x7544 5 лет назад
@@iforce2d Got it. Does it depend on a lot of external facts? Ie RTK is better, but not 100%. Centimeter accuracy, I can hardly get on a quadrocopter? About the settings. I read on the website pixhavk instructions on the RTC, on the site of the Drotek and watched your video. Settings differ a bit everywhere. What are the best settings to install. And how much accuracy depends on the settings. I changed to settings advanced from the site Drotek. And I did not notice the exact difference (
@InventionandAviation
@InventionandAviation 5 лет назад
what is the capacity,voltage and the discharge rating of your lipo battery
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 5 лет назад
I think it was a Multistar 4S 8000mAh, 10C
@RK-dp9fe
@RK-dp9fe 6 лет назад
Just wandering if you reset the flight controller after it lands and you move it over the white spot so the error does not accumulate?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
Last I checked it sets the home position when arming. Hope they haven't changed it :)
@RK-dp9fe
@RK-dp9fe 6 лет назад
iforce2d Maby it das on inav i dont know i use apm myself and i allways unplug and plug back to be safe. It just looked like it returned back to the second position from that camera angle that's why I thought i mention it. Anyway I thought it was pretty good regardless.👌
@zakjohns132
@zakjohns132 6 лет назад
What flight controller board? How do you like inav? Is it reliable?
@mistercohaagen
@mistercohaagen 6 лет назад
Omnibus F3.
@correia707
@correia707 6 лет назад
Thanks for the review. In fact, probably is overkill for a uav, and very expensive... i'll stick with the m8n...
@blancsteve4819
@blancsteve4819 6 лет назад
What degree of accuracy would satify your ideas ? Maybe triangulating on mobile phone towers would more accurate. Do you have three towers in NZ yet mate ?
@mistercohaagen
@mistercohaagen 6 лет назад
Probably... hasn't the majority of the 1% fled to there to setup defensible compounds to wait out the die off from climate change? Definitely high cash influx.
@amozov-x7544
@amozov-x7544 5 лет назад
Was this a flight without a base station, a ground one?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 5 лет назад
The base station is just behind me, I looked at it a little in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n8PUyOtiGKo.htmlm20s
@profix25lo
@profix25lo 6 лет назад
Question: Do the base and the rover have to be in line of sight?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
No. They are communicating via 900MHz radio link.
@profix25lo
@profix25lo 6 лет назад
@@iforce2d nice. Thank you very much. I will use these modules for my diploma project
@abdojalil2836
@abdojalil2836 6 лет назад
روع 😍😍😍😍😍
@roidroid
@roidroid 6 лет назад
There's some pretty impressive wind-gust multi-rotor position holding coming outof TUDelft lately: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VddwU5CabS8.html I dunno... UAV goals i guess? Probably not open source i'm guessing. :T
@jackhammell1926
@jackhammell1926 5 лет назад
Should the honey cup be full or empty?
@Alistratov1971
@Alistratov1971 5 лет назад
Half full or half empty?:)
@Jomama1116
@Jomama1116 6 лет назад
I thought it needed a base station?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
correct ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n8PUyOtiGKo.htmlm16s
@antreasdemetriou7999
@antreasdemetriou7999 6 лет назад
what is the flight cotroller
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 6 лет назад
Please watch the at least first ten seconds of the video :)
@antreasdemetriou7999
@antreasdemetriou7999 6 лет назад
iforce2d i watched i dont understand what you said about the version onimbus f3 what version i dont understand
@correia707
@correia707 6 лет назад
ahahahha
@darexg
@darexg 6 лет назад
Antreas Demetriou Its best $15 flight controller money can buy ;-) m.ebay.com/itm/OMNIBUS-F3-AIOV1-1-Flight-Controller-w-Integrated-OSD-Barometer-Support-SD-card/292164545995?hash=item44065d2dcb:g:uWEAAOSwcj5ZUdVR
@antreasdemetriou7999
@antreasdemetriou7999 6 лет назад
darexg thank you for your reply
@BuzZ.
@BuzZ. 6 лет назад
Im gonna rate it 3.69/4.35
@abcdabcsds1626
@abcdabcsds1626 6 лет назад
i'm desining a rtk drone while watching your video (c94 m8p) i have some question. so can i get your email adress? i really need your help
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