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U.S. Automotive History and the Chevy Vega 

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The Chevrolet Vega was the 1971 Motor Trend Car of the Year, but problems were soon to follow. The History Guy recalls the forgotten history of the dawn of "subcompact" cars and "the car that nearly destroyed G.M."
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@KENNEY1023
@KENNEY1023 2 года назад
My mom won a 1974 Vega in a little league baseball raffle. This gave her the freedom to get away from my father and complete her education.
@uradragon
@uradragon 4 месяца назад
Good for your mom
@nilo70
@nilo70 Месяц назад
Very Good Luck Indeed !
@jerryendres1632
@jerryendres1632 2 месяца назад
I was one of the drivers in the 1975 60,000 miles in 60 day Vega endurance test. 3 shifts of drivers drove from Vegas to Beatty NV, into Death Valley, exited south of Furnace Creek and back again to Vegas, about 7.5 hours including a couple short breaks during the test...during the summer! The cars never cooled down for the 60 days. We were testing the endurance of the aluminum block engine. Even made a TV commercial during the test. Fun job!
@jerrynewberry2823
@jerrynewberry2823 Месяц назад
Heating and then cooling IS a problem for aluminum engines. Imagine, torquing and untorquing bolts every time you stop the engine. Why Dodge has problems with header bolts snapping off. Dissimilar metals for corrosion and thermal dynamics is not the best idea.
@johnwagoner2279
@johnwagoner2279 2 года назад
I had a 72 Vega GT, 4 speed manual transmission that I loved. At 110k miles I replaced the short block with a factory steel sleaved short block. When I sold it, it had 230k miles and was still running strong.
@durango8882
@durango8882 Год назад
Whoa 🥇 medal for you! Mine sucked.
@johnwagoner2279
@johnwagoner2279 Год назад
With the manual transmission, I always keep the rpms over 1800..lugging the engine was fatal. That's why the automatics were awful.
@bobwiley5676
@bobwiley5676 Год назад
Vegas rusted badly. Like the pinto and the mustang, camaro and monte, challenger and valiant ect. 70’s cars rusted badly
@frankpuryear3844
@frankpuryear3844 Год назад
My manual was fun. After a while i had to start swapping plugs fairly regular . But plugs were easy to get to and dirt cheap. That car did handle Great . A good car for the drunk i used to be. It drove itself. I miss that .
@MrNunna
@MrNunna Год назад
Wow. If I knew back then that GM had a sleeved block available, I would have had them put one in! Oh well...
@dalekundtz760
@dalekundtz760 Год назад
In 1972 I bought a Vega. I changed the oil every 3,000 miles and when I got rid of it in 1975 because I got married and the wife wanted more room. I had NO problems or complaints. When I traded it in, I had 150,000 miles on it and burned 1/2 quart of oil between oil changes. I wish I could find such a vehicle today. The same year, my dad bought a 1972 Caprice and we got 5 miles from the dealer when the transmission fell out on the road. Give me a Vega any day!
@mattelder68
@mattelder68 4 года назад
"Check the gas, fill the oil" is what my Dad used to say about his Vega...
@garymckee8857
@garymckee8857 4 года назад
I had a Ford truck that had a 302 that drunk oil but wasn't bad on fuel.
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 4 года назад
That was my running joke when I had mine. :-)
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 4 года назад
My father in law and I tried out a 4 speed Vega in the 70's and being a hot rodder I went through the gears for him and blew the transmission and had to call the dealer to send a tow truck~!!
@rubberneck2855
@rubberneck2855 4 года назад
@@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys ha ha, not funny at the moment kind of thing.
@Crustymarine
@Crustymarine 4 года назад
"Check the gas, fill the oil" the FIRST thing that entered my mind when I read the video's title.
@SaykhelRachmones-um1no
@SaykhelRachmones-um1no 4 года назад
My father owned a 1976 Chevy Vega. The oil pan hung down below the skid plates. He put three oil pans in that car because the suspension was so terrible he kept bottoming it out on relatively well paved city streets.
@mranonymous7183
@mranonymous7183 4 года назад
I think I only replaced the oil pan on mine once. Must be lucky.
@freddyflintstoned913
@freddyflintstoned913 4 года назад
We had a 1975 with the same problem. Junk.
@LtJackboot
@LtJackboot 4 года назад
Install a Monza front end and springs from a Nova- solved.
@ethanc4920
@ethanc4920 4 года назад
I had a 77 Aster, it only had four inches of ground clearance. It was like driving a lowered pickup, it was a drag getting in and out of parking lots.
@SaykhelRachmones-um1no
@SaykhelRachmones-um1no 4 года назад
@@LtJackboot Dad sold that car in 1978 for exactly what he paid for it new. He's owned Cadillacs ever since.
@bobcole612
@bobcole612 Год назад
I had a 76 Cosworth Vega. Really liked that car. But I knew going in the tendency to rust (think happy thoughts, a Vega will rust if you cry in it). I washed it weekly, even in winter (living in Atlanta helped). I took care it, and it never let me down. Sold it before I moved to Texas in 1978.
@johnniewoodard648
@johnniewoodard648 Год назад
I had the 76 Cosworth Vega, blue with white interior. I loved that car. Was stationed in Charleston S.C. at the time. Almost divorced My wife, when I returned from sea and found out she had sold it. Found out later that she had wrecked it first...then sold it.
@stoveboltlvr3798
@stoveboltlvr3798 Год назад
Always thought it a shame that these cars had their problems because they were good looking little cars. In 1974 my Mom bought one just to have the head warp and block crack with very few miles on it. She took it back and came home with a brand new 75 Monte Carlo. Best new car we ever had.
@bobcole612
@bobcole612 Год назад
@stoveboltlvr3798 when I turned 16 my mom gave me her 69 Camaro, then she went and bought herself a brand new 75 Monte Carlo, blue with white interior and white landau roof. That was a beautiful car.
@fastvega
@fastvega Год назад
Still have my 72 Vega, gave $100 for it in 1992. Now has a 377 cid small block, th 350 trans, narrowed 9" with 4.86 gears. Body has all original sheet metal, no rust ever, only the windshield was replaced. 99 times out of a hundred, when I go to a car show or cruise night, I've got the only Vega there. Still see them on the drag strip a lot, very light car.
@rrrogster
@rrrogster Год назад
So to hear of your addiction. 😀
@davemoss9505
@davemoss9505 Год назад
See that's really cool.
@Dr-Jan-itor
@Dr-Jan-itor Год назад
This sounds like a strip car now. Quarter times? Also MPG with 4.86 ears? just curious.
@PeteForester1
@PeteForester1 9 месяцев назад
One of my friends shoehorned a 350 into a Chevy LUV pickup. He had to put sandbags in the bed to keep the truck from burning rubber when pulling away from the curb!
@BenMcneil-hk8xv
@BenMcneil-hk8xv 5 месяцев назад
Doing willies with those 486 gears
@macmccollum6064
@macmccollum6064 4 года назад
The Vega had the reputation of being the first car to rust on the showroom floor.
@hesspet
@hesspet 4 года назад
And winner is: Fiat Nuova 500 and Renault 4, much older... :-) As student I was an expert in fixing holes in the bottom with expoxy and glasfiber.
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 4 года назад
'Tis a pity. IMO it was kind of a nice looking little lemon.
@obelic71
@obelic71 4 года назад
@@hesspet they could rust as a champion. But there is only one master in rustdisaster The AlfaRomeo Sud . Doors and windows fell of due rustdamage at the showroom floor!
@zhubajie6940
@zhubajie6940 4 года назад
The Vega was the car where you said "Fillerup with oil and check the gas."
@stevem060
@stevem060 4 года назад
I used to go through 2 qt of oil per tank of gas.
@Snarkapotamus
@Snarkapotamus 4 года назад
I never had an issue with oil, but I did with coolant...the thing was always hot.
@thomasb1889
@thomasb1889 4 года назад
I had a few of those over the years but they were all over ten years old and well over 100k miles with very tired engines so it was expected and 500 to the quart was acceptable with a new car. The Vega's engine was lucky to make it 50k and the car was more rusted at two years than other cars in ten. A great idea horribly executed. Now cars are good for 20 years and 200k to 300k with ease. I just put down a 1997 Ford Explorer because the deferred maintenance built up to to high a level to fix her.
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 4 года назад
I had a buddy who had a German Ford Taunus. We carried a case of oil in the trunk at all times!
@dondesnoo1771
@dondesnoo1771 3 года назад
The 72burned 1qt per tank of oil the 74 none but lost coolant .put later engine in the 72 went 6k miles 1qrt. Bet changes.77eng.
@edwardmeade
@edwardmeade 2 года назад
We bought one of the '76 models at a discount. It was actually a pretty good car for commuting. I took it over 100K miles with very few mechanical problems.
@rrrogster
@rrrogster Год назад
That you remember......
@bobwiley5676
@bobwiley5676 Год назад
They were junk. Motor Trend is paid by auto makers. Car of the year is a scam
@gdearing1
@gdearing1 Год назад
My father, an engineer, did all the research. Motor Trend Car of the Year, Consumer Reports Best Buy. He bought a ‘71 Vega. Damn that car. Passed on to me after college. I vowed I’d never again own an American made car. And I haven’t.
@phigupot8976
@phigupot8976 4 года назад
as a poor college student, it got me where i needed to go, saved me more money for uni living - cheers, my lil red vega)
@johnk8825
@johnk8825 4 года назад
In the beginning, 96% of the Vegas produced were still on the road, the rest made it home.
@kyleglenn2434
@kyleglenn2434 4 года назад
Good one 👍🏻
@jeffking291
@jeffking291 4 года назад
🤣
@Jodonho
@Jodonho 4 года назад
LOL
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 4 года назад
😆
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 4 года назад
lol
@dennismcfadden7066
@dennismcfadden7066 Год назад
I'm 70 and have owned over 40 different vehicles. The used Vega I drove in 1981 was far and away the worst of them all. My kids probably have undiagnosed PTSD from all the breakdowns, the pulling over every 25 miles on long trips to put another quart of oil in and so on. Best day was when I sold it.
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 Год назад
I bought a used '74 Vega in the early '80s. Maybe it was the Herbie the Lovebug of Vegas, because it ran great. Previous owner treated it gently, as did I. I hate to say that I LIKED the car, in the context of this video, but the guy or gal before me babied it, as did I. In those days, people were used to great big, bulletproof V8s, which in those years were very forgiving of hard use and indifferent maintenance. I liked the way it handled. I loved the fold-down rear seat. I slept in the back of my hatchback many a time. I don't even remember when I sold it or traded it in, but I pretty much went with pickups after that. Not as good to sleep in, but room for all my camping gear!
@heygetoffmylawn1572
@heygetoffmylawn1572 Год назад
In my college days I had a Vega station wagon I could fold down the back seat and sleep in along with other “things”.
@heygetoffmylawn1572
@heygetoffmylawn1572 Год назад
You were lucky to sell yours. All 3 of mine ended up getting junked, in one way or another. I remember too, having to stop to put oil in. My girlfriend at the time wasn’t impressed at all, to say the least.
@petecoffman9048
@petecoffman9048 Год назад
It sounds like you got a lemon. I had a 1972 Vega gt that used absolutely no oil. It was one of the best cars I ever had. Then I bought a 1973 Vega wagon. Loved that car too. 25 years ago I bought a 73 Vega gt of which I still have. I feel bad you had trouble. People like you give cars such a bad name for no reason at all.
@fuckyougoogle1148
@fuckyougoogle1148 Год назад
@@petecoffman9048 a friend of mine had a Vega that 4 of us piled into for a road trip to Montreal to see ELP for the Works tour. On the way back the car died, not due to engine failure but because the alternator bracket broke probably due to the engine shaking. I don't recall how we got home other than it was sometime after sunrise......
@jamieclay007
@jamieclay007 Год назад
As a front suspension mechanic in the 70s, I became very familiar with the Vega, it had an issue with the chassis spreading at the point where the lower swing arm was adjusted, it would spread so much you couldn't adjust out the negative camber, thus causing tires to wear out faster than they should. There were a few aftermarket kits developed to try and resolve this but for the most part it only slowed the eventual failure. Moog even had special offset bushing to help reduce the problem. What is curious to me is the lack of coverage about this issue. Maybe eclipsed by all the others, but as a suspension mechanic it was often I had to tell the Vega owner the bad news.
@OKHandleIt
@OKHandleIt 8 месяцев назад
Great insight for those of us who owned a Vega, but who are not (or never were) motorheads. Mine burned oil like diarrhea.
@HugoHugunin
@HugoHugunin 4 года назад
In 1974 I was looking for a new car. I looked at the Chevy Vega because the price was $1,999. BUT(!), 2 speed wipers were optional, windows that rolled down were optional, high beams were optional, a cigarette lighter was optional, a glove box (iirc) was optional, a basic AM radio was optional. I passed on it then. 4 years later I was working in Waukegan, Illinois and needed a car while I was there. I was given a Checy Vega for free. It had 38K miles and had never been in an accident. The great thing about the Vega was that I could not lock my keys in the car. The *ENTIRE* outside skin of the doors, fenders and quarter-panels were rusted completely...GONE! To get into the car, you merely had to grab the rod and pull to gain access. I finally had to let it go when the floor pan was so rusted that the seat came loose and threatened to drop me onto the tollway. Also, the tires were flinging slush and road salt all over me through the non-existent fender well and my judge didn't like me covered in road %#&! while testifying in court every day. Not a good look!
@jackpinesavage1628
@jackpinesavage1628 4 года назад
I had a '75 Chevy stepside truck with rusted floor boards. I called it the "Flintstone mobile". lol
@onlyweknow2
@onlyweknow2 4 года назад
Best looking small 70's car ever built....That was the dirty trick of it!
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 4 года назад
BMW's 2002 looked better
@andyhastings5950
@andyhastings5950 4 года назад
Looked even better with the front bumper cut to look like the two piece Camaro and a spoiler and front air dam. Oh, yes Chrome the headlight bezels and the installation of Camero mirrors to replace the little dainty piece of shit originals. You had a mini-me Camero.😜
@98triffid
@98triffid 4 года назад
@@andyhastings5950 It was also very popular to swap in Chevrolet 350 engines to replace the horrid stock setup. Sadly they live on now, only in my memories.
@98triffid
@98triffid 4 года назад
@xr7fanSadly those were only offered after smog laws had gotten...bad. In 1972 you could have had a 250hp version of that engine directly from GM but the Monza was only good for half that, despite being the same engine. (with a far weaker cam, lower compression, etc)
@98triffid
@98triffid 4 года назад
@xr7fan I'm glad you experienced them as they were meant to be. Most saw them as a slightly faster Capri V6 but they had the potential to be so much more.
@dadw7og116
@dadw7og116 Месяц назад
Well done! My first new car was a 1973 Chevy Vega. Within 5,000 miles, the engine burned a quart of oil per tank of gas. It (the entire engine) was replaced under warranty. I sold the car with only 30,000 miles on it. The person who purchased it worked at the same plant that I did and I occasionally saw the car coming in the main gate. Within a few years, the paint had worn off of the roof and there was rust all around the rear window. I would be very surprised it there were very many of these cars still in working order.
@sjwhitney
@sjwhitney Год назад
As a former Vega owner, I can attest to the great handling of the car. Vegas had interestingly wide tire rims that could accommodate 60 series in back and 70's in the front. It was amazingly stable at high speeds. One day I tested mine by putting my foot on the throttle and not letting up. The speedometer in the Vega only went up to 110 mph. However, not only did the needle get up to that, it passed it and vanished behind the dash! If only GM had used cast cylinder liners and done better rustproofing, as then it would have been a hit. By comparison, a later car I owned was a Pontiac Sunbird. It was really a twin to the Vega and had a Buick V-6 engine and was a road screamer. Alas, the same poor rustproofing plagued the Pontiac as well.
@bradzimmerman3171
@bradzimmerman3171 Год назад
Some people never learn-gM is professional at ripoff
@frankpuryear3844
@frankpuryear3844 Год назад
My vega could go to from long beach to the starwood on less than two bucks. And when you let go of the wheel it would immediately drive straight. I loved that.
@matthewtarka2804
@matthewtarka2804 Год назад
as an autobody man......they had welded on door hinges,to the body and the door........non adjustable......what a pain they were!!!!!!! alum block throw away motor.........crap!!!!! fjb and the rinos!!!!!!
@timomomomo969
@timomomomo969 10 месяцев назад
We had the wagon. Rear wheel drive manual, short wheelbase, it could spin on a dime and even do donuts on bare pavement
@paulklassert7914
@paulklassert7914 9 месяцев назад
I had a 72. My brother's car. Given to me when he bought his GT. It had a sleeved rebuild that I could play around with and a 2 speed powerglide that I could get to 50 mph in first gear. I loved it because I learned a lot about cars by tinkering with it. Multiple shades of primer covered the body. And, as it was a hatchback, I could carry a half keg of beer in the back for parties.
@crazysteve9390
@crazysteve9390 4 года назад
Chevy Vega: I was so bad some people think I nearly destroyed GM Cadillac Cimmaron: hold my beer
@milfordcivic6755
@milfordcivic6755 4 года назад
Luckily for GM, the Cimmaron wasn't as heavily marketed, nor was it within the price range of the average small car buyer. It was supposed to compete with the BMW 3 series of the day and was a hell of a lot more reliable than the Vega ever was.
@tehbonehead
@tehbonehead 4 года назад
Cadillac Catera: Hi there!
@jamesogorman3287
@jamesogorman3287 4 года назад
Pontiac Aztec
@caravan1ify
@caravan1ify 4 года назад
cimmaron....an expensive cavalier!
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 4 года назад
Good One~!!!
@RGC-gn2nm
@RGC-gn2nm 4 года назад
Mom and Dad bought one new. We attempted a family vacation to Disney World. Never made it back. Always wondered why we flew home. First plane trip ever thanks to that Vega.
@iancrawford1382
@iancrawford1382 4 года назад
Great story and I believe it, my parents bought a 72 Vega, and immediately we went to Washington DC but we did make it back. However my Dad said the car was trouble after the trip. My kids who grew up with a minivan and would never know the experience of squeezing in/out of a Vega.
@jimfritz9503
@jimfritz9503 4 года назад
Best of both worlds. Drivin + flyin
@jimstrict-998
@jimstrict-998 4 года назад
Probably lost most of the coolant out the radiator overflow tube. One of the first recalls was to add a overflow- bottle. Low coolant-levels were fatal for the Vega's aluminum engine. Happened a lot.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 4 года назад
@@jimstrict-998 I just added a comment about my own experience with a Vega engine destroyed by low coolant. When we got the head off the view was surreal.
@dehoedisc7247
@dehoedisc7247 3 года назад
Oh come on. That could have happened in any new car, even a Cadillac. There are always some new cars that have a problem, and the warranty program takes care of repairs. You guys were just unlucky.
@fredflintstone3956
@fredflintstone3956 Год назад
I bought a well used '75 in '84 when I was in the Navy at NAS Miramar. We had a great auto hobby shop on base, and it lived there for a bit while I went through the engine, and shot a coat of Pennzoil yellow lacquer on it. Out of the Navy, back in IL/IA, took me back and forth to NAS Glenview for reserve duty. Loved that car!
@durango8882
@durango8882 Год назад
🤪
@OptimiSkeptic
@OptimiSkeptic Год назад
That's great! My stepdad bought a rusty green '71 Vega with a dead engine in it when he was stationed at San Diego in '72. He and his friends put a 350 in it and tried to make a street racer out of it. It didn't win many races because none of them knew how to mechanic or drive very well. What it did give them was a lot of fun and a lot of stories to tell over the years. He managed to get it home to East Texas but by the time I was old enough to drive, it had been in the junkyard for years.
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 Год назад
Mr Flintstone Got one of the runners! Mr history should interview you. 😂
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 Год назад
​@@OptimiSkeptic Lol, late night, my friend would jack his dad's Vega. We'd cruise up to chantry flats in Ca. Lol, it was like driving a 3 legged turtle, whatta pile..... But some people landed on a good one. 🎉
@Darknamja
@Darknamja Год назад
In the early '70s, I spent much of my off-duty time in the auto hobby shop with my fellow aircraft mechanics. Our sergeant successfully installed a small block Chevy into a Vega. He used it strictly as a drag-strip car. 😉
@terrancenorris9992
@terrancenorris9992 Год назад
My younger brother bought a Vega in1972 and babied it almost religiously and it actually never gave him any problems. It was yellow with a black interior and had a floor shift manual transmision.
@jerrynewberry2823
@jerrynewberry2823 Месяц назад
11:39 Manual is the key term. Here
@garrettmineo
@garrettmineo 4 года назад
I had a Vega, it taught me a lot about Bondo.
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 4 года назад
I got a friend of mine that had a Vega and we call him Bondo to this day hahaha and he's 70 and still gets called Bondo
@mranonymous7183
@mranonymous7183 4 года назад
Mine too! I bought it when it was 6 years old. Petty much towards the realistic end of life for them :)
@ScottWilliamson
@ScottWilliamson 4 года назад
....and which motor oil is the cheapest.
@craigcrawford6595
@craigcrawford6595 4 года назад
Lol, good one...
@greatdaneacdc
@greatdaneacdc 4 года назад
I had a 73 Vega hatchback! It taught me a lot about oil consumption !
@johnfranklin5277
@johnfranklin5277 2 года назад
Ok, here is my absolutely honest experience with my 1975 Vega. 1st off, this is in Southern California, so rust was absolutely a non issue. I bought it in 1978 off a dealer lot for 1000 dollars, that included all fees. It had 40.000 miles on it, and an 8 track cheap stereo, and aluminum Mag wheels! It was my daily driver for 2 years, when in November of 1980 I bought my 1st brand new car a Toyota Celica. I was 21. I sold the Vega private party with just under 90.000 miles for 1500 dollars! And the guy I sold it was happy to get it. I put almost 50.000 miles on that car, and only repair was a busted clutch cable, and a new water pump. That was it. It was a 3 speed manual, and I drove it all over the place, including up into the mountains many times. I took good care of it, 3000 mile oil changes, a coolant flush once, tires, and 1 brake job. I kept it washed and waxed.. It never failed me, including a trip from home to visit family in Missouri. It didn't burn oil, got good MPG. It was light metallic green, and a beige interior. Now at 62, I've had many brand new cars, But when I think of that simple, no frills little Vega, it brings a smile to my face! 😊
@shumakerguitarworkssgw9505
@shumakerguitarworkssgw9505 2 года назад
My sister graduated in 74, she bought her 1st new car, a 74 vega gt.. she beat the hell out of it as did my 2 brothers, and it only ever got basic maintenance.. it was yellow with black gt stripes
@robynperdieu3434
@robynperdieu3434 2 года назад
My brother, a mechanic, had a Vega. Love the style of that little car. And it had issues, but still loved it.
@sonshinelight
@sonshinelight 2 года назад
I always thought of my '72? Hatch as a mini-Z. It was a cool car.
@busman7228
@busman7228 2 года назад
You were very lucky
@JamesWest-iu4jx
@JamesWest-iu4jx 2 года назад
My brother bought his new in 75.......ran it to hell and back at least 3 times, it would not die
@davidstuber5331
@davidstuber5331 Год назад
I bought a 76 Vega with a 5 speed transmission and a slightly hopped up engine, had some Cosworth parts on it. The 5 speed needed rebuilding after about 10K miles but after that I put over 100K on the car and sold it for $600. It turned out to be a great car!
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks
@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks Год назад
The family car of my childhood was the first 1971 Vega GT hatchback delivered to the Cincinnati market. The little car worked great for us. We even welded a hitch to the back to tow our 17' boat! I spent many happy hours playing in the hatchback on long family drives. The odometer broke at 180,000 miles, and we kept it another 3 years after that - until the thing finally rusted away in 1982.
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 4 года назад
The Vega was innovative, it was the first car made of compressed rust.
@robertsnearly3823
@robertsnearly3823 4 года назад
Lmao!
@westernspud504
@westernspud504 4 года назад
wasnt that the chevy citation in the 80s ,
@alfresco4976
@alfresco4976 4 года назад
No, the British had been doing that for years! Their sheet metal really was inferior.
@briang4470
@briang4470 4 года назад
That's all 70s era American cars, the sheetmetal on those cars just was not well coated and lots of old cars had exposed seams where the sheetmetal was spot welded and water and dirt would get in them seams and rot the panels especially in places where the roads get salted, the Vegas rusted just as bad as all famous muscle cars from that generation it's just that most people with muscle cars are willing to fix the rust where the vega was a cheap disposable car so not many people would fix the rust as it would start occuring so in my opinion the vega doesn't deserve the rust reputation alone, all cars from that era rotted if driven in salted roads and neglected like most cheap cars of that time.
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 4 года назад
20 years ago msn had a website called carpoint. they ran a user poll for worst car. people shared thier stories. one guy said his vega had been made of compressed rust. it broke in 1/2 when going over some train tracks one night. the pinto stories were worse.
@gregssingletary
@gregssingletary 4 года назад
My dad had a '72 station wagon and in the early 80's I was told that would be mine. I didn't care, it was a car and freedom. I turned 16 in November and started driving to school, not caring what other people said. The day after Thanksgiving my dad told me we were going to find me a car. My grandfather was a retired mechanic and knew every used car dealer in Pensacola. He had found some to go look at. We wound up buying a 1970 Malibu, 307 V8 in mint condition. I asked my dad why he bought it. He told me "Because you never complained about driving that piece of shit Vega".
@camwinston5248
@camwinston5248 4 года назад
That was an outstanding story..well told😁😁😂
@ethanc4920
@ethanc4920 4 года назад
That 307 was an unheralded great engine from a reliability standpoint. Transmissions also lasted a long time behind those because of the modest power output. Like a 170 cubic inch Slant Six, the 307 had optimal bore and stroke numbers to make a pleasant and reliable powerplant if horsepower was not the first consideration.
@camwinston5248
@camwinston5248 4 года назад
@@ethanc4920 true...and the 300 straight six.
@camwinston5248
@camwinston5248 4 года назад
My first car was a 74 Mercury Comet with a 302...at the time i thought it was a rocket ship.
@tyronebrown9936
@tyronebrown9936 4 года назад
Great story!
@carlosojeda1956
@carlosojeda1956 2 года назад
My auto shop teacher was able to get a brand new Vega from a local Chevrolet dealership that had the engine fail for nothing so that we could convert it to a V-8 powered car. We spent a couple of months doing the work. We were able to hone our skills and had a running car in around 4 months. It was a very fast car. Very reliable transportation.
@anthonypickens3236
@anthonypickens3236 2 года назад
@ Carlos Ojeda God bless you. My friend who passed away just a few months ago bought a black 77 vega and put a 350 chevy in it. That car was fast he used to come down our street burning rubber all the time. This brings back so many memories lol.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Год назад
why put a V8 in it? chevy reworked its 140 motor and so should have your shop class. you guys would have learned a lot more than simply bolting a built-up V8 engine in. your teacher probably sold the V8 car for a profit that he promptly pocketed....
@richcardenas8023
@richcardenas8023 Год назад
I had a hatchback Vega in the 70’s as a work car for the steel mill in Gary, IN. It was a stick shift. One morning after working midnights a friend and myself were heading out of the mill. The viaduct tunnel under the railway was flooded with all of last night’s rain. Neither of us wanted to drive the two miles it would take to get around it. We drove that Vega with its RPM’s in the red and plunged in. Never stopping the forward roll water breached the windshield, the carpets started floating, that Vega was taking in water everywhere... we looked at each other in terror. As we started to ascend the tunnel we broke into laughter as all the water that entered the car seemed to have left. That was until we leveled out and all the water in the back of the hatchback came forward to awash us in a cold wave. That Vega was never any worse for the wear! True story out of the 70’s.
@judsonr1
@judsonr1 4 года назад
In 1984 a friend in high school had a 10 year old Vega GT wagon, we couldn’t drive home after school without adding oil to it, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Hadn’t thought of him or that car in years. Thanks History Guy for making me laugh with nostalgia.
@BigLisaFan
@BigLisaFan 4 года назад
You added oil and checked the gas.
@buzzwaldron6195
@buzzwaldron6195 4 года назад
Should have gotten the Pontiac Astre Wagon version with Iron Duke engine...
@gregwhite2881
@gregwhite2881 4 года назад
“I was part of a GM experiment “ is the free T-shirt all of us unfortunate Vega owners should receive!
@williamsample2631
@williamsample2631 4 года назад
You should receive a lot more than that!
@williambone7724
@williambone7724 Год назад
My mom had a '71 Vega Wagon and we loved this car!
@Fiftyx60
@Fiftyx60 2 года назад
I had always thought they looked kind of sporty, but I once read something to the effect that, "the Vega brought new meaning to the word 'depreciation' by rusting on the showroom floor."
@OfficerLarryNMSE
@OfficerLarryNMSE 4 года назад
It was my first car, I loved it. Two months later, I wasn't quite as happy about the blown head gasket or the transmission that was slipping. Yes, I raised such hell at the dealership that they gave a choice of a replacement vehicle... My new Plymouth Valiant Duster was awesome...
@darthfader6835
@darthfader6835 4 года назад
1973 Vega GT was my first car. It almost made me reconsider being a car owner.
@user-ss2ly1ir6j
@user-ss2ly1ir6j 3 года назад
'GT' stood for 'Giant Toilet"
@hilgo_velomobile
@hilgo_velomobile 3 года назад
It was my second car. I was glad when my "friend" Jim stole it and wrecked it in a race with Barry in his Cougar.
@cak4539
@cak4539 2 года назад
I had a Vega way back when and got 120,000 miles on it. The car exceeded my expectations.
@mikeallen5596
@mikeallen5596 2 года назад
Vega Veteran, New Orleans chapter here. I had a '72 miniwagon, drove it to my commuter college from 1977 to about 1981. My dad worked on tugs & supply boats. The oil burning got so bad that he'd come home with gallons of waste oil from the shipyards in gallon jugs. I'd just pour some in every week. I had school friends who lived in New Orleans East. When I drove over what we call the Highrise, a plug would inevitably get fouled and I'd lose acceleration. Yes, I kept spare plugs and a wrench. This experience made me swear that my children would always have safe, reliable cars when the time came.
@user-ss2ly1ir6j
@user-ss2ly1ir6j 4 года назад
Back then all GM vehicles were rusting at the dealership...brand new. I know, I used to work there.
@justme_gb
@justme_gb 4 года назад
'77 Chevy pick-up bed rusted in a year. "Rusty Jones" was a VERY poor advertising choice at the time! It rusted alright!
@indykurt
@indykurt 4 года назад
@@justme_gb Ha Rusty Jones. That's a name I forgot as in 1985ish I was working at a Porsche/Audi/VW dealership and they charged $180 (I think) for a 2 part Rusty Jones treatment that consisted of a hole being drilled in the lower part of a door in the jamb and a rod inserted and we pulled the trigger as we removed the rod getting points for spillage then spraying the bottom of the car with the same material that was like tar but dried hard finishing up by putting a 2 part wax on the paint that would wash off with a few washes. People rolled it in with the bank loan and almost every car got it. Time proved that those untreated cars didn't tend to rust that bad except the Audi's.
@tim2269
@tim2269 4 года назад
We were all car mad back in Middle School and these kinds of problems were well known to us even then.
@keithshubert4007
@keithshubert4007 4 года назад
A friend of mine worked at the Lordstown plant and owned a Vega. A few years into his ownership, he was waxing it ,and his hand went partially through the body. He concluded that the Vega was bio-degradable.
@josephgaviota
@josephgaviota 4 года назад
Green New Deal before its time! Call up AOC!!
@michaelangelo8001
@michaelangelo8001 4 года назад
Rusting was their biggest issue.
@sabrehawk-427
@sabrehawk-427 4 года назад
my ex father in law worked at lordstown his job was driving off assembly line he told me parts would fall off before it got outside and sometimes it would not make it outside
@edsahara
@edsahara 2 года назад
Same thing happened to me. I was washing it and my hand went through the rear panel. The car ran well though. Never gave me a problem in 91K miles.
@Scoobydue420
@Scoobydue420 Год назад
Nice lie.
@jasonchristopher2977
@jasonchristopher2977 Год назад
U mean the same guy that does the best WW2 content also covers Auto history too? Where have I been? This is great!!
@samuelschick8813
@samuelschick8813 Год назад
One cannot hide from The History Guy.
@jasonchristopher2977
@jasonchristopher2977 Год назад
@@samuelschick8813 So glad we live in a time where although eggs are more profitable than black market items, we can have great content!! Do they make a mini cow? I know they have mini horses but if I could get a cow then along with tge few chickens I got ill save $100 a week in eggs, milk, butter, cooking lard.
@samuelschick8813
@samuelschick8813 Год назад
@@jasonchristopher2977, I'm over in the Philippines and the milk here is the crap that sits in a box on a shelf that does not need refrigeration until opened. It's somewhat tolerable and cheap. But I can get imported milk from the USA that has been refrigerated from cow to the cooler in the store. But that cost about $5 for half a gallon. Since I am a disabled veteran that milk is a luxury item that happens about 3 times a year. That does not include going about 30 miles to the store that sells it.
@mjkay8660
@mjkay8660 Год назад
he is amazing, im glad i dont have to fact check..lol
@laurie5098
@laurie5098 2 года назад
Vega was my first car. It had a maroon exterior and a tan interior. No AC ( and I live in the deep south) , AM Radio, 4 speed stick shift and I loved it! I am not sure of the year, but probably a 1975. I thought I had upgraded when I installed an 8 track player! Never had any trouble out of it . When I think about that car, it reminds me of simpler times in my life and oh how I wish I could go back!
@aattura1541
@aattura1541 Год назад
My 73 was FILLED with Radio Shack goodies-- cassette player, speakers, wiring, interior lights, the works! Mine also had no A/C -- but I paid for the option of a larger (for A/C) radiator and that helped -- so did a fan and open windows, LOL
@osirisandilio
@osirisandilio 4 года назад
Glad my first car was a Pinto. They just burst into flames when rear ended. My parents must've really loved me, sigh
@rontroy3843
@rontroy3843 4 года назад
Mine was the Mercury Capri, around 71 or 72, bought mine after college in 77. Parts of it came from the Pinto, but it was built in Europe and apparently had somewhat better build quality. Lots of fun to drive. A 4 speed as I recall, so I really had to learn to use what turned out to be a worn out clutch. But it got replaced, put Aramid belted radials on, and I had the 'right' car for a young guy to enjoy taking out on I80 between PA and NYC. Fortunately my only speeding all those decades ago was uphill!
@milantrcka121
@milantrcka121 4 года назад
Had a '72 2l Pinto. Ultimately some 160k mi. Drove Riverside Raceway (way back in the day) twice... Across USA once.
@rawrec
@rawrec 4 года назад
I drove my Pinto from the passages seat sometimes. It created the illusion that nobody was driving the car. I loved Pinto’s form factor and geometry. It was a death trap.
@rontroy3843
@rontroy3843 4 года назад
@Rick Charles There was a time when his word was as good as law. Not so much anymore.
@rontroy3843
@rontroy3843 4 года назад
@@rawrec The surprise for me was that the Pinto engine could be put into a Capri with surprisingly good results! Once I had good tires and a viable clutch, it truly drove like a sport car, with tight handling and plenty of power for it's weight. I'd sort of test that going up hill on I80 crossing New Jersey, and it performed well. Then over the top of the hill toward the speed traps (of the late 1970's) and just let it roll down the other side at a much more reasonable speed.
@micheldevost
@micheldevost 3 года назад
My dad had a Vega in 1979 and when he would turn off the ignition, even with the key out the switch, the engine would keep running. We had time to walk in the house, and finally about 30 seconds later, the engine would stop. To this day, it’s one of my favorite “we had a crappy-car” stories. :)
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 3 года назад
Ha, Ha, that was Dieseling or what we called it, to much fun if you had one. LOL. Smokers were hilarious too, in traffic a smokin exhaust, I used to ask my buddy why the Cops would not stop someone with a belching out Smoke, probably felt sorry for the owner.
@j.dragon651
@j.dragon651 3 года назад
Preignition, the most common cause is carbon build up on the plugs. The plugs stay so hot they still ignited the gas even after the car is shut off. Solution, new plugs or clean the plugs. Pre-ignition (or preignition) in a spark-ignition engine is a technically different phenomenon from engine knocking, and describes the event wherein the air/fuel mixture in the cylinder ignites before the spark plug fires. Pre-ignition is initiated by an ignition source other than the spark, such as hot spots in the combustion chamber, a spark plug that runs too hot for the application, or carbonaceous deposits in the combustion chamber heated to incandescence by previous engine combustion events.
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 3 года назад
@@j.dragon651 All I know is it was hilarious to hear it after you shut the engine down. LOL. See Uncle Buck with John Candy, he had a smoker/dieseler. LOL.
@mikeeberts3279
@mikeeberts3279 3 года назад
Yup. My dad's Vega did that!
@chriscatarcio2983
@chriscatarcio2983 3 года назад
Try using better gas. To.
@j.l.thomas3912
@j.l.thomas3912 Год назад
I am an avid follower of your channel. I am only getting around to watching this video. Boy, I am glad i did! When I was a teenager my brother's first car was a brand new 1974 Vega. He spent 3 years cursing that car for the non-stop breakdowns and repairs. I never saw him as happy as the day he sold that rusted out shell of a car. His joy was short lived, however, as his next car was a Mustang II. The car that almost killed the Mustang.
@timothysaye5535
@timothysaye5535 Год назад
Again, when those who own the stock of GM, Chrysler and Ford call the shots on profits being eaten by costs associated with manufacturing excellence and build quality, expect the opposite! That's why the Japanese did the opposite-build quality and the demise of the big three was, well...............
@brucepowell7986
@brucepowell7986 Год назад
your full of crap, i owned a 74 and they were not rust buckets like the korean designed 72/73. they were in fact good cars. diff engines and a camaro 4 speed. best economical car on the market.
@marioncobaretti2280
@marioncobaretti2280 Год назад
I worked mainly on Vegas from 77 to 80 in a chevy dealership. Once you replaced the engine with the warranty chevy steel sleeved motor, there was no problem with them
@jamiemarsh6176
@jamiemarsh6176 4 года назад
I've often thought automotive 'journalists' were highly susceptible to the Long Liquid Lunch and 'entertainment'.
@chrisrowland2255
@chrisrowland2255 4 года назад
Still are, but bigger $$$ involved now with internet professional testers.
@jimstrict-998
@jimstrict-998 4 года назад
The "entertainment" being a gentleman's club, lol.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 4 года назад
My dad had a Vega as a company car. Great mileage but I remember him remarking about his losing a few sales as clients got in it and remarked that the company must be having financial troubles. LOL! He shared that with his boss and they sold them all and went back to Chrysler New Yorkers.
@arachnonixon
@arachnonixon 4 года назад
I remember my Dad saying that in the 70s, he was starting in sales & had an old-school mentor that would only drive New Yorkers. they conveyed to the client that you weren't a desperate schmuck, but unlike a Lincoln or Cadillac didn't convey that you were overly-flashy or fleecing them (or so he believed anyways)
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 4 года назад
arachnonixon - Good point, but I was just starting high school in those days LOL! I knew little of those things. I just remember dad not being happy that the new car was costing him clients and business. It wasn’t just him, there were several people in sales that felt the same. Normally if I remember correctly they kept cars for 2-4 years, I’m thinking the Vega’s lasted about 6-9 months. They also had some Plymouth Satelites, which were kinda sporty for the day. Edit - And the ride, fit and finish... I can remember thinking as a kid that it was cheap. But what did I know. My allowance was $2/week back then.
@rubberneck2855
@rubberneck2855 4 года назад
I'll look up the "New Yorker", I'm Scottish, not heard of it but that's the great thing about broadband, you can look up nearly anything
@rubberneck2855
@rubberneck2855 4 года назад
Looked it up, wow, New Yorker is a BIG car, lots of body shapes and long production run. Interesting.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 4 года назад
Rubber Neck - As I remember it... it was just a car, a decent one. Rode good! It wasn’t flashy and didn’t stand out. Was a cop car in some versions. But I remember my dad saying the mileage of the Vega was going to pay for the car, remember gas was like .25/gal then. The car had promise, but to get the mileage they went cheap on everything else.
@philleprechaun6240
@philleprechaun6240 Год назад
My 1st new car was a '73 Vega Hatchback with a 4 speed manual transmission. I was in the Navy and stationed about 350 miles from home. My grandparents decided I needed a dependable new car for trips back and forth, and just generally getting around so they took me to the dealerships and my grandfather even cosigned the loan for me. Drove it for 5 years with no problems until a hose broke one day on a trip. Damn good gas mileage for the time (30-33 mpg on the highway, best trip was 38 mpg).
@tdr9204
@tdr9204 2 года назад
I bought my ’74 Vega in ’76 when I was home on leave from the Navy. I bought it used in Wisconsin and drove it to San Angelo, Texas for the next phase of my training. It was a great car to drive, but less than 15 miles from home, the chrome-colored plastic trim on the right-side rain gutter started flapping in the wind. Duct tape to the rescue, until I reached my destination and could epoxy it back in place. The rest of the trip, and time in Texas was great. A comfortable car to drive, and sporty enough looking for a 19-year-old. After Texas, another trip to Wisconsin, then to my permanent station in Homestead, Florida. Again, driving those distances was a dream. No engine issues driving from sun-up to well past sun-down. I arrived at my base in south Florida, less than mile from the ocean, and a couple months later, spent my first winter on temporary assignment down the road in Key West, literally feet from the ocean. Ocean, as in salt water, salt spray, and rusting Vega. Years later someone tried to tell me it was the 2 years up north that caused the rust, but road salt rust occurs in places like wheel wells, and the bottom of the car. My Vega rust (and it was very noticeable on a white car), was the air vent below the windshield, eventually causing rainwater to leak into the cabin by way of the radio. Rainwater running down the back hatch would drain down the back of the Vega above the brake lights, until the rust surrounded the lights. But the death knell came when my Navy work site put in speed bumps. The Vega engine sat so low that they put in steel X plate under it to protect it, but the constant banging on the speed bumps eventually messed up the transmission and I had to get rid of it… before I was even finished paying for it. But it was my first car so I do have fond feelings for it (and blame Florida for being near saltwater, and the Navy for concrete speed bumps). I found a die-cast version of the ’74 Vega on eBay so I’ll always have my first car with me.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Год назад
after years of blaming the wrong people- you finally realized why people slow down for speed bumps.....
@yellowbusguy
@yellowbusguy 4 года назад
When I was in high school, there was a guy that stuffed a small block V8 into one of these. It was crazy fast. One night he showed up at the local hangout and we saw that the firewall had become separated from the cowl. He literally twisted his car in half. Fun times.
@mikewysko2268
@mikewysko2268 4 года назад
We had a guy in high school who installed a chevy 400 on his Vega, land it failed in the same way.
@richardscotty3669
@richardscotty3669 4 года назад
Yup. A friend of mine in college out a small block in his ‘72 and had to constantly weld up tears in the unibody around the rear end linkage.
@ethanc4920
@ethanc4920 4 года назад
The Vega chassis could handle around 200 Horsepower. People who successfully race Vegas weld subframe connectors in place to fix this. To be fair, all unibody cars have a limit beyond which they need additional bracing. Modern cars have vastly superior unibody construction and can't hold a powerful V8 engine anyway so the trouble has largely dissipated. Even Mustangs, Darts (real Darts not fiat darts) and Nova's need some help with big block engines in the form of bracing.
@yellowbusguy
@yellowbusguy 4 года назад
@@ethanc4920 The only Vegas I see now are on the drag strip, full cages, back halfed ECT.
@TexasTimelapse
@TexasTimelapse 4 года назад
I had a friend in high school that did the same thing. It was fast as hell, but fell apart.
@stevemann8374
@stevemann8374 4 года назад
I thought my dad was a gear head by choice but the ownership of his Chevy Vega now makes me think otherwise lol. Rip poppy
@GrooveQuest
@GrooveQuest 4 года назад
Some people are born gear heads, others have it thrust upon them.
@bcubed72
@bcubed72 4 года назад
Actually, the Vega would have been a great car if it had, like, any quality control whatsoever. The Cosworth and Monza were hot little compacts.
@byronspears9395
@byronspears9395 4 года назад
Out of all the comments i can relate word for word to this one because i was the one who had to hand my dad tools when all i wanted to do was go play outside with my friends. And to this day i think that's the car that made my dad turn to the darkside.
@dougharding5231
@dougharding5231 Год назад
I had a brand new 1974 Vega GT. It really was a great car and it did have great handling. I loved it on the curves. It was a hatchback and I made great use of it. It wasn't until I'd owned it for about two years that it began to burn oil. That's when I found out that was a known problem with these cars. So I always carried extra oil with me and I kept that car for another three years before trading it in on a Celica GT, a car I'd actually wanted when I bought the Vega, but the Celicas were about a grand more at the time.
@aubiejazz
@aubiejazz 2 года назад
Dear History Guy, As a young man in 1973 I owned a Vega and traded it back to GM in less than a year. I did not experience the problems you mentioned but the one I experienced was what convinced me to get rid of the car. Some my say it was a small thing and it may have been but I hated it. The problem I had with the Vega was that after a rainfall the water on the highway would come up between the gaps on each of the hood and splatter onto the windshield right in your line of vision. So I traded it in so I missed all of those REAL problems that were coming. Boy, am I glad. Thanks for the video.
@astrodiver1
@astrodiver1 4 года назад
The 140 cu in aluminum in-line 4 was a POS. I used to go to K-mart to buy oil by the gallon to keep oil in it. Bright side is you never needed to change the oil because every 50-100 miles you needed to add a quart. We used to refer to them as 2-strokes.
@checkwikipediasrsly9274
@checkwikipediasrsly9274 4 года назад
There's a 1.8l Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse engine that I had that experience with, too. It was SOHC and you could basically fill it up before you left and it would be empty by the time you were home. The valve cover gaskets are crap on them.
@astrodiver1
@astrodiver1 4 года назад
@@checkwikipediasrsly9274 I know just what you mean. I was a Mitsubishi tech in the late 80's early 90's, I remember a TSB on the valve cover gaskets but I don't recall them burning a lot of oil.
@TheOzthewiz
@TheOzthewiz 4 года назад
LOW maintenance?
@mirrorblue100
@mirrorblue100 3 года назад
I kept 3 or 4 cans of oil in the car just in case - on a long (200 mile) drive I'd usually top up once.
@etheroar6312
@etheroar6312 4 года назад
In 79, my wife was talking to her sister on the phone. When asked "what are you two doing today?" she answered "We're sitting on the front porch and listening to our Vega rust."
@thomasb1889
@thomasb1889 4 года назад
I laughed but that was not far from the truth.
@mediumal4563
@mediumal4563 4 года назад
I think there was a rust race between the Vega and Datsun 240Z.
@thomasb1889
@thomasb1889 4 года назад
@@mediumal4563 They were bad but no where near the Vega's rusting as you watched. It was a great idea for a small car but the execution was horrible
@georgezap1906
@georgezap1906 4 года назад
After 3 years commuting in Chicago in our '73 GT wagon I called my wife out to the garage and said "Shhh. Be quiet and listen. Can you hear that?" She said "Hear what?". I said "The Vega....it's rusting". Two years later the RR lower control arm bracket was so rusty it was detaching from the "structural metal". We were one of the luckier ones and got 75K out of it until it overheated. I sorta miss that little car.
@thomasb1889
@thomasb1889 4 года назад
@@georgezap1906 The idea of the car was top notch. The execution then less so but even today with good execution it would be a good car.
@billreal76
@billreal76 2 года назад
I owned a 1971 Vega Hatchback, green in color with a 4-speed and 2-barrel carb. Bought it for $2400. Kept it till the water pump went out in 1975 while driving through the Portsmouth, VA tunnel to Norfolk. The mechanic said the aluminum engine warped and the piston rings couldn't keep the oil inside. I did fender work to cut out the rust and patch the fenders and LOVED the 4-speed and had fun with it when the muffler fell off from rust. That was a FUNNY final quote!!
@jimpastore5976
@jimpastore5976 Год назад
I bought a Chevy Vega station wagon new in 1975. It came with a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty. I drove it many years and my daughter started driving it when it had about 80k miles on it. I never had any problems with it. I just put one battery, one set of brakes in it. My daughter drove it and then gave it back to me because her friends made fun of her car. It was running when I parked it with 172k miles on it. It never burned oil, and was great on gas and still was fast! The machining process of silicon impregnated cylinder walls was copied by Porsche. The only problem earlier Vegas had was if it lost just a small amount of radiator water, it would overheat. So in '75, they put a much bigger radiator in them and they never had that problem again. I still have it stored and is in great shape for never being in an accident.
@antonr170
@antonr170 4 года назад
I loved my Vega! It was my college car, dependable, economical and fun to drive, great on curvy roads though not much top end. I may have had the exception, but I remember it fondly :)
@petercolquhoun2086
@petercolquhoun2086 4 года назад
What year was it? By the last couple of production years they were pretty good. But the damage to reputation could not be overcome.
@robrod3097
@robrod3097 4 года назад
Totally understand your lucky streaks with the Vega, I went through similar situations with the Chevy Citation, lots of people had trouble with them, but I put 90k + miles with no difficulties, despite others blowing transmissions at about 35/45k miles.... LoL 😂
@kickahaw
@kickahaw 4 года назад
Yes if you got a good one they were a lot of fun
@jamesogorman3287
@jamesogorman3287 4 года назад
And the hatchback was great for summer nights.
@katmandudawn8417
@katmandudawn8417 4 года назад
I had one I loved. We got it out of a junkyard but I drove it for years.
@arrismalo9953
@arrismalo9953 3 года назад
My sister had,a Vega , never a lick of trouble , bought new , drove it for more than 10 years , sold it to another college girl, last we heard was still going strong , so not all of them had problems,, thanks for memories , from history deserving of being remembered, this one was definitely in the “ 5 percent “ thank you History Guy
@fieldinglover
@fieldinglover 3 года назад
I have a nice 73 in my garage right now , and it is not rusted out and the best part is it now has a V8 in it and is a blast to drive plus no one knows what it is !
@chriscatarcio2983
@chriscatarcio2983 3 года назад
Ur going against group think.
@chriscatarcio2983
@chriscatarcio2983 3 года назад
@@fieldinglover I had a 73 . That we bought used. It was beat. Overheated ....And so it lived up to being a oil burning rusty peace of shit. So l bough a 75. That had a engine fire . But was in mint condition used the 73 for parts. To fix it. Than I junked the 73. Big mistake. Young and STUPED. I was 17. The 75 ran like a raped ape. But now 6 VEGAS later my 72 GT. Ralley green with white stripes and swing out windows. Is my face. I lost it in a bad storage deal. I have a 79 monza 2+2 nowadays. It's ok but its not the. 72.
@GD1082
@GD1082 3 года назад
@@fieldinglover LS?
@fieldinglover
@fieldinglover 3 года назад
@@GD1082 No in the early 60's Buick and Oldsmobile both made an Aluminum V8 215 with a 4 bbl carb and I built one and put it in my Vega and it will pull the front wheels off the ground ! they also put these little V8's into a lot of Jeeps because they make good torque plus they get good gas mileage when you don't have the throttle pegged !
@funnerthanbefore4947
@funnerthanbefore4947 2 года назад
I'm too late for that era but i DO remember those cars being on the road and causing problems as a young child in the early 90s..... Just a memory I may not share with many, but just like the history guy says, its history that deserves to be remembered... Even IF not most remember it....
@michaeldennison7298
@michaeldennison7298 Год назад
I had a 1974 Vega when I was in the Air Force. I loved that car. I went thru I290 at 115 mph and thru NYC at that speed too! The car had the most comfortable seats I ever sat in. I was sad to see that car go away!!
@betamax5674
@betamax5674 4 года назад
Best quote on the Vega, “customers lost confidence in a car that began to rust on the showroom floor.”
@deadfreightwest5956
@deadfreightwest5956 4 года назад
Most American cars arrived on the lot rusted. The Dodge Aspen and Plymouth Volare had rusted bumpers on delivery... and those were chromed!
@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry 4 года назад
@@deadfreightwest5956 But the Volare DID have a very catchy radio jingle! Volare! Come see! Plymouth Volare! What a new car should be!
@mrAThiker08
@mrAThiker08 4 года назад
they were rusting on the line....
@garrywright7535
@garrywright7535 4 года назад
I remember the Vega. I own a 1977 Dodge Aspen. I bought it from a private seller in 1987. I drove it until 2010. I drive a 1994 Ford Ranger which I bought from a private seller in December of 2009. I want to get the Aspen back on the road again and I have did repairs on it over the years.
@josephgaviota
@josephgaviota 4 года назад
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry I remember that song and ad campaign ;-)
@whitedovetail
@whitedovetail 3 года назад
I joined the Air Force in September of 72'. When I finished with my school, my first base was in Austin, Texas. I wanted a Vega GT so bad, I could taste it. But thankfully I ended up buying a VW Super Beetle. And boy am I glad. The Vega was well known for the oil burning and oil dropping. And My VW was a dream to drive. They almost got me!!!
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 3 года назад
Hitlers revenge were never a good car. Noisy, slow, handled bad. And a VW without oil leaks? Clearly it had no oil. Yet Nader never got into them, much.
@Hithere-ek4qt
@Hithere-ek4qt 3 года назад
Hey what are you smoking dude? VW beetle is one of the great automotive success stories in the world
@x-man5056
@x-man5056 3 года назад
My Vega never burned or leaked oil but it was a 73 with steel sleeved cylinders. Never overheated and I ran the shit out of it. I lived in California so no worries about rust. The only knock I had on it is that it needed a five speed. Wish I had it back.
@jameskennedy673
@jameskennedy673 2 года назад
My wife and I bought a 1972 Vega GT in 1975. We enjoyed the car very much, no problems like you’re talking about, had to trade it in for a bigger car so babies would fit. The after market people were making kits to swap a small block Chevy V-8 into the Vega, which was great as long as you up graded the trans, brakes, suspension & reared. I got to drive one that a neighbor had, it was a blast to drive. Thanks for the history lesson
@RonGreeneComedian
@RonGreeneComedian Год назад
The first car owned by the girl to become my wife. Yes, her Vega caused lots of problems as she often drove the 200 or so mile one-way trip to college. However, given the fact that the dealer who sold it to her daddy was his first cousin, they were always repaired at no cost, regardless of where she broke down.
@jefmatttab
@jefmatttab 3 года назад
When it was turned into a hot rod after the production died, it became an icon for drag racing and high school hot rods
@davidpeters9897
@davidpeters9897 3 года назад
You're right, about the only time you see a Vega or a Monza is at the drag strip.
@hotwheelsbob2000
@hotwheelsbob2000 3 года назад
And most of them were back halved with an aftermarket chassis.
@dough6759
@dough6759 3 года назад
A guy I worked with put a 327 in a Vega for our boss. Had to have the drive shaft shortened at some place in Charlotte. It had amazing acceleration thru all the gears!!
@rickc.4723
@rickc.4723 3 года назад
In the late 70's my dad put a Corvette LT-1 in his...so much power for such a little car lol
@chatsworth8768
@chatsworth8768 3 года назад
@@dough6759 I put a 327/375 in mine when the original engine died with 18000 miles on it. 327 2 speed powerglide out of a wrecked chevelle cut my owen driveshaft swapped in a 9 inch rear with 3.90 gears. This car was a street terror for years til the frame rusted away.
@macmedic892
@macmedic892 4 года назад
The Vega has a great frontal crash rating… The tow truck usually absorbs most of the impact.
@user-mv9tt4st9k
@user-mv9tt4st9k 4 года назад
😂😂
@TheOzthewiz
@TheOzthewiz 4 года назад
LMFAO! Thanks!
@toniaansaldo8140
@toniaansaldo8140 4 года назад
🤣🤣
@nghtwtchmn129
@nghtwtchmn129 4 года назад
Car Craft magazine's "Junkyard Crawl" feature once reported that many salvage yards stopped accepting Vegas.
@toniaansaldo8140
@toniaansaldo8140 4 года назад
@@nghtwtchmn129 Makes sense...If nobody was looking for parts,they'd just be in the way. No use other than scrap.
@bongobreathman
@bongobreathman Год назад
In 1971 I bought a brand new Pinto. My friend bought a brand new 1971 Vega, which I told him NOT to buy because of the aluminum cast engine...he said, "That's the latest technology. It will be great." Thankfully I was never rear-ended in the Pinto, otherwise I wouldn't be here to write this...anyway...My pinto lasted 4 years (then I traded it in for another car) without one problem. I changed the oil every 3,000 miles, checked the spark plugs and distributor cap every 10,000 miles. Changed the spark plug wires and distributor cap every 20,000. Plus I kept the carburetor very clean. With 55,000 miles on it, I traded it for a new car in 1975. My friend's Vega was not so lucky. He, like me, took care of his car...but after only about 6,000 miles the engine started over heating. We both lived in San Diego so winter wasn't an issue. At 13,000, the Vega engine seized; overheated and locked right up...it was 1,000 miles out of warranty. Fortunately he had taken the Vega into the dealership and had a long record of engine over heating problems. And much to his surprise (GM would never do this today) GM sent the dealership a new engine and paid for the installation. But, it was another aluminum cast engine. So my friend, since the car looked brand new, worked a deal with the dealership (the owner of the dealership was good friends with my friend's father) and did an even trade for a used '67 Impala SS. He drove that '67 (it had 23,000 miles on it when he got it) for years and years. Of course he meticulously took care of it, nevertheless, engines in the 60s, if you took care of them, lasted a long time...not so with the Vega engines.
@LoriFoster
@LoriFoster 2 года назад
My girlfriend now wife bought one at a auto auction in 1978, it was a 1975 maroon Hatchback. It looked good and it also ran well. She got it for around $700. My brothers gave me crap about it but like I said it rain well till she was hit and it was totaled a few years later. She received over a grand for it. Win Win on that Vega!
@crankychris2
@crankychris2 Год назад
Can she talk yet, or was that the big win?
@NullStaticVoid
@NullStaticVoid 3 года назад
My family had one of these. A yellow two door. It was a heap of junk. I remember whenever mom would hit the brakes, you would hear water whooshing forward inside the chassis. This was Louisiana, rarely a week passes without rain, so the car never fully dried out. It was always a little waterlogged like an old galleon. This car was purchased new by the way. Yes I am from teh 70's. My mom was pretty proud when she drove it home. Her first new car! It eventually blew up on us in third grade. A Sister at the Catholic school was talking to my mom after school. Telling her how I was a trouble maker and never paid attention, probably headed straight to hell... then Boom! Someone had crashed into our Vega going about 20 miles an hour and the gas tank blew up like WW II. I thought it was cool because of giant explosions well known appeal to 9 year old boys. But also because I knew this erased my horrible scholastic behavior from my mom's mind. We actually went out for dinner. The next day the sister was very nice to me. Moral of the story, The Vega is a bad car for everyone except 9 years olds.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 2 года назад
Lol
@keithpace7977
@keithpace7977 4 года назад
This video is incredibly accurate about the Vega and the corporate thinking that was going on at the time at GM. I lived through the Vega fiasco. It spread to all the GM brands. Chrysler made the best engineered and reliable cars of all. Then 1957 came and Chrysler was no longer run by engineers. They retired. The accounting department ran the company until their 1980 bankruptcy. Their cars were the worst . Every corner was cut to save a dime at the expense of quality. What was missing in your Vega story the great engineer and chairman of the board ED Cole retired in 1970. The company like Chrysler was now being run by accountants. Roger Smith who by 1976 had had the company under is total control was an accountant who knew nothing about manufacturing, design or engineering. He single handedly destroyed the car giant.
@angelperez7891
@angelperez7891 4 года назад
Have you heard a Vega rolling across a highway? If you stood close enough to the tailpipe, you thought someone who drank Coca-Cola all day was burping and let all the gasses out. At idle, you could hear all sorts of clanking and clattering as if the pistons and combustion chambers were made with beer cans! The Vegas were that bad.
@Frederick314
@Frederick314 4 года назад
Say that interesting. As a fellow engineer I can relate to that kind of corporate heavy handedness. It like in that show the Office where we kinda look at each other or off into space when some know-nothing acts like a boss. Messed up.
@angelperez7891
@angelperez7891 4 года назад
@@Frederick314 Messed up, huh? And the exhaust note at the tailpipe was an obvious red flag!
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 3 года назад
Accountants, huh? More like Ferengi, all they care about is profit. Corporate has its head up its ass because corporations are run by Ferengi. All any of them care about is stuffing their own coffers with other folks' $. The business world is just a den of thieves, cutting each other's throats for greed.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 3 года назад
@@CrazyBear65 , Really? REALLY? Not really, at all. "The business world" is NOT all a den of thieves... especially compared with some other countries.
@michaelausting9344
@michaelausting9344 Год назад
In 1976 I owned a '73 Impala 4dr; came down on orders to Europe so I traded it in for a '75 Vega GT 4spd thinking it would be better for secondary roads in Europe. Loved that Vega; it took me all over Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and The Netherlands never letting me down-wish I had it today!
@glorybound7599
@glorybound7599 Год назад
The Corvair or Monza, of the 1960’s was one of the best cars ever built by Chevrolet.
@Theywaswrong
@Theywaswrong Год назад
I had a 1962 Corvair Monza "Spyder" convertible. Black with red interior. I loved that car.
@wandaburns8075
@wandaburns8075 Год назад
@@Theywaswrong Awesome. I'd love to see a pic.
@normanacree1635
@normanacree1635 Год назад
That isn't saying much.
@PH_INFO_101
@PH_INFO_101 Год назад
@@Theywaswrong I was blessed to drive a restored 1962 Corvair Rampside as a delivery vehicle in 1984. I will never forget the experience.
@jupitercyclops6521
@jupitercyclops6521 Год назад
The 70s monza s were cool when people put 350 in them. My dad bought one new & hated it It's for sale if anyone is interested; 74 (maybe) monza. One owner. All original, including paint 5 spd transmission Original interior Never been wrecked. (Idt) Have title Won't last long! Don't let this one get away! Must be trailered as dead battery & low tires. For sale as is. Sight unseen probably work best for me She's been sitting , I mean stored, in the fresh air for at least 3 decades. Seriously though, I'd take current scrap price + another 50% She's rougher than 65 yr old Russian stripper
@dougterhune9364
@dougterhune9364 4 года назад
One of my friends in college had one of these. He did not change the oil because it burned it so fast. He just added more.
@ronfullerton3162
@ronfullerton3162 4 года назад
And not changing oil just made the engine life shorten quicker. That thin microscopic cylinder wall really needed to be kept clean. The oil got a little dirty or lost some of it's lubricating ability and that cylinder wall was toast.
@blackbuttecruizr
@blackbuttecruizr 4 года назад
My buddy had a V8 model in high school, it was super reliable and very fast.
@pino6247
@pino6247 4 года назад
No need to change the oil when the vehicle has a relatively constant supply of new stuff... Just need to change that filter and you're good. Its a GM; if it isn't leaking oil from somewhere, something's wrong.
@dougterhune9364
@dougterhune9364 4 года назад
@@ronfullerton3162 it was the late 80's and his parents had gotten a new car and he took the vega. It was so beat! Purple with a red interior. His parents had driven the thing all they could and my friend just needed it to last until the end of the semester. It did last that long and on it's way back to long island it finally died. He had gotten within walking distance of his house.
@burtvhulberthyhbn7583
@burtvhulberthyhbn7583 4 года назад
Guy I knew used 90 weight gear oil in engine it burned so fast.
@69soulseeker
@69soulseeker 4 года назад
my dad and I restored a 1973 Vega we put in a Buick v6. Once you fix all the issues its a very nice car with allot of power.
@Papa-o33963
@Papa-o33963 4 года назад
Yes indeed
@howardcitizen2471
@howardcitizen2471 3 года назад
"Once you fix all the issues" is not a ringing endorsement.
@21stcenturyfossil7
@21stcenturyfossil7 3 года назад
GM should have fixed all the issues before they sold the cars.
@truckshackley373
@truckshackley373 3 года назад
My dad had a Pontiac Grand LeMans that had a Buick V-6 put in it. That car was actually quite fast
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 3 года назад
those are some narrow hoodledges- and they tie the whole front suspension together- how did you do it?
@roberthampton8682
@roberthampton8682 Год назад
I had several Vegas. I actually enjoyed driving them, my last one was a 1976 Pontiac Astre stationwagon. I bought it with a bad engine, replaced that, then a year later, the transmission went out. I came across a 1979 Chevy Monza stationwagon with a V6 that had been wrecked. It only had 33K miles on it, I removed EVERYTHING from the Monza and put it into my Astre. So, for several years I had a 76 Pontiac Astre station wagon with a V6. It ran great.
@robmeier9416
@robmeier9416 2 года назад
A little late viewing this video. Having grown up during that era, everyone knew someone that had a Vega abandoned in their driveway. The engine issues were infamous. Never-the-less, I always thought, for a compact, that the Vega was a stylish car. It's no wonder that so many were converted into small block Chevy powered cars. Where I grew up, engine life took out these cars before rust ever did. Fifty years on, though, and rusted hulks are what you'll find today. Thanks for the video...well done!
@kekelaward
@kekelaward 4 года назад
I had some of my best walks when I had one of these cars.
@tackyman2011
@tackyman2011 4 года назад
LOL
@ethanc4920
@ethanc4920 4 года назад
I learned about how to hot-wire an electric fuel pump in my 77 Aster. The oil pressure switch prevented the pump from running before the engine had oil pressure. This made it a race between the engine wheezing to life or the carb running out of fuel. After I bypassed the switch with a small piece of a coat hanger, the car became reliable.
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 4 года назад
...always, always subscribe to AA. lol
@traycrockett3088
@traycrockett3088 4 года назад
😀😃🤣
@ochsblogger
@ochsblogger 4 года назад
Thanks for the blast from the past. As a teenager, the Vega was my first car, and it was brand new at that, because of its affordability. Most kids had their dad's old cast-off clunker. I had that brand new car the same month that I got my driver's licence. I saved money for two years at odd jobs. Of course, I took a lot of ribbing because it was a small car and those were the days when your manhood was judged by the horsepower of your muscle car. The car lasted almost eight years, requiring only one engine transplant because of warping of the aluminum block, but GM paid for that. It was zippy (had a manual transmission) and luckily mine didn't have a lot of other quality issues. The most notable was that it couldn't take cold weather and regularly needed to be towed to a heated garage to get it to start. I had the clutch cable snap as well, and that was a bummer. I started the car, and went to put it in gear, and the clutch went to the floor and stayed there. As it got older, you pulled into a full service gas station and said "Fill up the oil and check the gas". I loved the car. It gave me freedom as a teenager when many of my friends and peers didn't have transportation. I was quite popular because of my Vega. My girlfriend destroyed it in a collision. Thanks for this trip down memory lane. I still have the owners manual, and it is one of the most treasured books in my library.
@Mr1fish2fish
@Mr1fish2fish 8 месяцев назад
Dear Mr. History Guy: this is a comment on subjects you might be interested in doing: I think the European and American graffiti along the railroads that were left behind during the Great Depression and have been kept clean and bright that are easily seen passing as a cab view train ride video goes along, is a history that deserves to be remembered.
@aattura1541
@aattura1541 Год назад
Laugh if you want to -- I still have mine, after 50 years and I love her as much as I did back then. 2 BBL Holley, 4 Speed Saginaw transmission, Positraction, Koni Shocks, Sway Bars front and rear, Red Line (woohoo!!) tires, I changed the oil every 2K miles, took her halfway apart every 4 years and derusted, Fiberglassed if needed, painted inside the fenders and door panels, rocker panels, and other interior body parts with Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer, and waxed her body to a beautiful shine - I loved and still love that car. I put 99K miles on her - at 45K I had her engine sleeved (gained 5 hp, needed hotter wires and hotter spark plugs plus a 40K Accel coil.), I did most of the maintenance work on her including adding instrumentation - and WOW -- she was and still is my love.
@aaroncostello8812
@aaroncostello8812 3 года назад
Car and Driver: "The Chevy Vega is the best economy sedan for three years running!" Chevy: "To be clear, we never actually said a Vega would run for three years."
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 3 года назад
Good one!
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 3 года назад
It’s cheaper to pay off Car & Driver for good reviews than it is to build a good car.
@aaroncostello8812
@aaroncostello8812 3 года назад
@F Trakk Nice! How many engines did that take? 🤣
@jonljacobi
@jonljacobi 3 года назад
I got about three years. Warped. Better than my Saab 99 which lasted about 3 weeks. Transmission. Yup, make a bad car and I'd buy it.
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 3 года назад
@@jonljacobi Yeah, I’ve heard a lot of Saab story’s.
@thebigksmoosey
@thebigksmoosey 4 года назад
My first car was an 18 year old 76 Vega. I loved it, even though it was a bit of a junket. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Год назад
a 'junket' is actually a trip- a walk down memory lane- you could use a good dictionary.....
@chrisbennett812
@chrisbennett812 Год назад
My parents bought a new 1974 Vega Estate wagon (artificial wood paneling and all) for my mom to drive. She loved it because it was easy to drive. When the engine was cold, it needed two attempts to start it but it always started on the second try. They ended up selling it after a few years. By strange happenstance the buyer’s daughter had occasion to drive it to our house one evening. By the time she left the engine was cold. It made my dad giggle when it took two attempts to get it started 😉
@JDfromWitness
@JDfromWitness 9 месяцев назад
Had a 71 Vega. Great at high speeds and almost impossible to get stuck in the snow. Really loved it. Fantastic handling. Did my own repairs at the time and only gave up on it when I pulled the head and saw cylinder scorch marks. Got well over 100k miles on ti.
@jacksmancave170
@jacksmancave170 2 года назад
I had a '74 Vega GT. I was popular at outdoor parties, as I could let it run for about 15 minutes after I got there, and the clouds of burning oil fumes would keep mosquitoes away for hours.
@lancelotlink3907
@lancelotlink3907 2 года назад
Great story. Just curious what part of the country?
@ORflycaster
@ORflycaster 2 года назад
Haha! My first car was a '74 Vega GT (red), and I know exactly what you're referring to! I have very fond memories of that old car because it was "my first." I also enjoyed the handling and seating position (probably also because of my inexperience). The interior had a muscle car vibe to my teenage mind, and while the worn-out 4cyl had no power, I did have fun racing and drifting around on country gravel roads pretending I was Steve McQueen. :D
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 2 года назад
@@ORflycaster My mother bought one new in 73, I got my license in 76, so I learned to drive in it. I had tons of fun in it. I also loved playing on dirt roads. It did burn a ton of oil by the time my mother sold it in about 1978.
@mikeallen5596
@mikeallen5596 2 года назад
Oh, ya' killed me with that one!
@ORflycaster
@ORflycaster 2 года назад
@Douglas Farshtey Eventually I started feeding mine the used oil I drained from other vehicles. That probably accelerated her demise, but eventually I realized the relationship wasn't meant to last........
@jonhamilton5789
@jonhamilton5789 3 года назад
40 mpg on the highway, they must have been talking about the oil consumption.
@chriscatarcio2983
@chriscatarcio2983 3 года назад
What year did u have.
@UmeshKumar-um7ze
@UmeshKumar-um7ze 3 года назад
These didn't make 40 mpg, they made about 30.
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 3 года назад
i used to own a Vega. Lucky to get 19 mpg.
@donalddesnoo5303
@donalddesnoo5303 3 года назад
We had a 72 wagon got 40 mpg ..5-6 used engines over 300k miles was an adventure had a.75 automatic held up .well
@owenshiverdecker6999
@owenshiverdecker6999 3 года назад
Mid to high twenty’s and a quart of oil a week.
@miquelnewman6936
@miquelnewman6936 Год назад
Really need a History Guy Ford pinto... this is used in law school as an case study and deserves to be remembered. You Rock!
@WisdomVendor1
@WisdomVendor1 2 года назад
The coolest thing about the Vega was that JC Whitney sold a motor mount conversion kit to mount a 350 GM engine in it.:-)
@scottthomson9813
@scottthomson9813 4 года назад
Had a 72 Vega in the family for several years. Never an issue. Was absolutely great! Slow, but great!
@georgemckenna462
@georgemckenna462 4 года назад
Vegas were already showing rust new on the dealer lots. The siliconized cylinder walls provided the hand grenade engine!
@QuantumRift
@QuantumRift 4 года назад
They didn't have inner fender wells....
@jonmeray713
@jonmeray713 4 года назад
QuantumRift where did he say that
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome 4 года назад
6 stages of rust improvement.
@georgemckenna462
@georgemckenna462 4 года назад
@@QuantumRift The vega's inner fender wells can be clearly seen at 6:34 . As I understand it the Vegas were made with a lower grade of imported "dirty steel" and with out rust prevention measures rapidly corroded.
@QuantumRift
@QuantumRift 4 года назад
@@georgemckenna462 The two Vegas I owned, first production run, didn't have them..they had some sort of lame thin plastic deflector installed.
@kenfrank2730
@kenfrank2730 2 года назад
In the early to mid 80s I owned two used Vegas. The first was a 72 that I paid $400 for. After un-repairable body damage due to an accident I bought the 74 for $600. I lived in Southern California, so rust was not a problem. Both cars served me well and were reliable. Pretty good on gas, too. Owning these cars was a good experience and saved me money while I attended trade school. The 74 was still running good when I sold it.
@heyboy33333
@heyboy33333 Год назад
My first car was a 1975 Monza hatchback . It was a manual 4 speed. No ac, no power steering. The engine was a very under powered 4 cyl. The doors were so heavy they would drop and inch when you open the doors and you had to slam them to get them shut (a common problem with Monza's). It got me through my last 2 years of High School and 4 years of college. I sold it after I got my first job out of college and bought a 1987 Celica GT.
@genemartin6962
@genemartin6962 4 года назад
I worked as an apprentice mechanic in a local Chevy dealership from 1972-1975. I quickly became the Vega Man because older, wiser mechanics realized quickly what a loser it was. I could spend hours telling you how bad it was but just believe me there is a reason that you do not see any engines today with aluminum cylinder blocks and cast iron heads. IF they had reversed that it MIGHT have worked but IF that engine got anywhere near hot ONE TIME it was done. The top of the cylinders were not tied together with anything, the four cylinders are standing alone. It COULD have been a great design but it was an absolute disaster and it hurt GM more than the ill fated corvair ever did
@Cole-xq2tl
@Cole-xq2tl 3 года назад
Isn't the LS an aluminum block engine?
@applianceman6194
@applianceman6194 3 года назад
@@Cole-xq2tl yes...but is also sleeved steel cylinders. Big difference in dispersing heat in the cylinder
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
Cast iron block engines with aluminum heads have been around for, well, basically forever. It works fine.
@Mr6384
@Mr6384 3 года назад
Thanks for the info. It seemed like the Vega was followed by many other disasters: Oldsmobile Diesel, Chevy Citation, and others. Sad, really. To think so little of the employees and the customer
@hotwheelsbob2000
@hotwheelsbob2000 3 года назад
@@knurlgnar24 Not too many aluminum engine blocks with cast iron heads, though. The difference in thermal expansion was extreme when the cylinders absorbed so much more of the heat than the head.
@henrycomputer1403
@henrycomputer1403 3 года назад
I used to work in a machine shop rebuilding engines. I remember these engines coming in. We actually sleeved them with sleeves for 9n ford tractors. Most customers that had a vega would have a 350 chevy built to install for racing
@mentorofarisia371
@mentorofarisia371 2 года назад
I had a 1973 GT hatchback, 4-sp manual. Loved it. Drove it from MI to FL non-stop in July. Lots of cars stopped along the expressway from overheating, but mine went on without issue. I didn't have A/C, which surely helped the car, even if I was sweating. For its day, it handled better than almost anything on the roads - far better than any Pinto, Gremlin, Corolla or Beetle. I think it would do 103 mph flat out, given enough road, which was fast in those days. Yes, the engine was loud and rough - a 2.4 4-cyl, with no balance shafts. But it ran well.
@leitheparsons1186
@leitheparsons1186 Год назад
My dad bought a 73 from his company with a blown motor. He had a 76 motor instslled. It ran trouble free for years and ended up being my first car in 1985. The later steel sleeved motor was a vast improvement. I sold it in 1987 and I saw it on the road 5 years after that.
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