U.S. Faces a Type of Extremism It Doesn’t Know How To Stop, Says Expert | Amanpour and Company 

I'm with you 100%!

You can throw all the money you want at GOP states, they will continue to educate their children like it’s 1860. They’re needs to be a cultural change as well.

@@Buttercup697 That's the problem. A certain culture re elected Greene. A lot of these people are antiscientific uneducatable morons. They want it to be 1798 politically and socially, but 21st century technically.

The pile of willful ignorance by indoctrination has already reached critical mass.

@@Buttercup697 True - Homeschooling used to be a legitimate response for children with special needs, but it has devolved into a political statement for disaffected parents. And the kids suffer well into adulthood. I've never met a doctor, attorney, engineer, or accountant that was homeschooled, among many other careers.

That's certainly a part of it--and that's precisely the part that enranges the conservatives. Remember one of the first points she made--it's about shared hatred, and today's conservatives hate people of color and lose their minds at the thought of helping that segment of the population with any kind of aid, be it educational or financial. Heck, today's conservatives have their hair on fire over the thought of CRT being taught in public schools even though it isn't and has never been.

Fantastically accurate assessment

This system doesn't want to help fly over states to have more opportunity. The totalitarian left in charge only thinks zero sum.

And the world.

Until we figure out a way to ensure that opportunity and prosperity isn't stolen by whites, especially white men, we're going to continue to have this problem. I do agree that long term, the best solution is to maximize opportunity and prosperity. The problem is that, as long as tolerate conservatives in society, we will never be able to solve political violence. I'll use social security as an example. Social security was a beloved program in the US. Do you know when they started hating it? If you say "black", you win a gold star. You see, certain industries were not allowed to access social security funds. Things like maids and farm workers. Industries that were heavily black. Then, the 60s rolled around and suddenly, black people could also get a social security check. Suddenly, Social Security was a problem and a burden in the US. Isn't that a strange coincidence? White Americans had so much and they still couldn't be decent people. White CONSERVATIVE Americans to be more precise because it wasn't all whites. It was CONSERVATIVES who ruined it for the rest of us. Unfortunately, the world isn't fair or just. That means that we have to invest in lazy criminal white conservative communities first and once again, push everybody else who has suffered and continues to suffer to the back of the line. I wish we could just kill them. That would help move the line forward rather than this game where the people who are the worst off must beg for scraps even now. (I use the language I use because I'm mirroring what conservatives have said. If it's offensive now, I ask the dear reader to question why it was okay to refer to other communities with these types of phrases. Isn't it strange?) The best way to save us is to remove conservatives. They aren't humane enough to be trusted with the well-being of humans. Just look at the maternal mortality rate in Texas or Louisiana. Compare that rate to California's. And that's just the maternal mortality rate. We can look at general mortality. Crime rates. Teenage pregnancy. Education rates. Conservatives are simply worthless to modern human societies. All they do is perpetuate the worst of humanity. Look at their nonsense with anti-abortion (killing women legislation) or their anti-trans (killing transgender people) or their religious liberty (killing everybody who conservatives hate) ... are they a group that deserves a say in society? Shouldn't republican voters be held accountable for their crimes against humanity? (I can kill a person with a gun, a rock, a car.... so why do we pretend that our votes can't kill people? Look at that maternal mortality rate. Isn't that murder?) I'm sure somebody will talk about how intolerant I am. Yes. I am intolerant. I am intolerant to nazis and all sorts of other intolerant peoples. It's called the paradox of tolerance. Conservatives have proven themselves, by their actions and words, to be untrustworthy. I will not have the blood of women on my hands because I chose to appease these savages. (Maternal mortality rate = murder) I will not have the blood of LGBT people on my hands because I wanted to tolerate the conservative nazis. We must draw a line somewhere. This is where I'm drawing my line. Take great care my dear readers. Otherwise, you will understand that you have lost everything by complying with these conservative children of nazis. They thought they were free too....(reference to a book... look it up. )

The heart string harps

More like road rage

Not surveillance machines?

A lot of people laughed at it and ignored it back then. Same with Gingrich, Limbaugh, etc.

​@@eddierayvanlynch6133 Trump, DeSantis, Kanye, I might add!

Fox "New's is a joke. It is treason not for politics but profit. Americans have abandoned public education then turned over the education of rural America to Fox "News" & TV preachers, in other words to grifters who see American ignorance as their cash crop.

I felt the same about Fox . How could anyone be stupid enough to watch this , I thought .

A very sick, dangerous joke, truly! 🤦‍♂️

embrace the decline

@H Powell I agree. The schools have dumbed down everyone so badly we can't even effectively compete.

​@@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808 Sure. A Congress that can be bought and sold by a rapacious corporate capitalism has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's them greedy teachers, y'all.

PRECISELY!!!

EXACTLY!!!

Biased load of college-sophomore crap. Typical Atlantic Magazine.

The trouble with the analogy is …the tip melts in the light. A small fire in a dry forest is manageable. But, Several small fires, across a dry forest is very risky. Our dry forest watches Fox and follows Christian Nationalist blogs and Q feeds. Lots of small Extremist with small camp fires defying Forest Service Burn Bans.

Sam Harris was nearly "canceled" for describing radical Islam in this way.

The homeless are the problem if political violence is being perpetrated? Odd.

Nah. It's the working class white men, and to a lesser extent women.

Away! (They've given this a lotta thought 💭)

You want to eat? Be useful! (get to work) - so when you stop looking for your parents to wipe your ass, perhaps you will understand the rest of us.

Covid made alot of this worse.I think covid could have been used as a tool to destabilize us.China was behind this but covid could have been an accident that evil forces exploited for their cause.

PRE-CISELY!! We need to jettison "Citizen's United".

We need to stop it with the jingoistic "true" whatever "ism", and address issues as there are and as they come. Excessive sloganeering is a big part o f the real problem. .

capitalism ate our democracy and shat us these fascists. oligarchs rule the world and theres no escape but revolution. start a co op and vote with your dollars, its all we've got...

Capitalism is a system of what? That's right EXPLOITATION

I agree, coddling and ignoring racist terrorism for centuries, is the tinder and crony capitalism is the match.

Great comment!

Looking back if we had put white males on the terrorist list after the OK city bombing how would today be different?

@@elainelouve Agree, too.

Smug, sh*tlib, know-nothing comment.

And yet I still have more facts in my comments than you.

This is because of the propaganda and lies spewed by the likes of Fox 'News' and others, which induce the fear of others. I lived in Canada for 30 years before moving here and we don't have this kind of issues, at least with the TV and radio media, where a network can lie without repercussion (the license would be quickly revoked). After moving here, I remember going to a dealership for a regular maintenance several years ago. They had Fox News on in the waiting room. In a matter of minutes, my partner and I looked at each other because we could not believe what we were hearing. A regular news item that was not political was turned in a political statement implying that Obama was 'indirectly' responsible for what happened. The choice of words in the piece was clearly used to induce fear for the listeners (as Obama will come for you kind of way). Again, this was for something trivial that had no political slant.

I believe the right-wingers tell you who to hate. they give you a target. they give you a reason. they give you rationalizations for anything that might go against your conscience. the left doesn't give you any one to hate. they don't even give you the person responsible for whatever it is (think the economy). but if you noticed they never tell you to be hateful. they never encourage anyone to hate the people on the right. what they do is build you up and make you think that you're better than they are. they tell you it's okay to laugh at people. they teach you it's okay to mock their lack of education. but they never offer any real change to affect anyone's life. Nancy Pelosi and her crowd kneeled in African garb for 9 minutes to supposedly honor George Floyd. but they did nothing else. every time they're asked to do something by the people, they throw up their hands and clutch their pearls and say "but the Republicans". say they're going to do things but they won't actually do them. student loan forgiveness for example. they're beholden to corporations, just like the right. all of these people that are supposedly supposed to be working for us, will give just enough to quiet us down but never really do anyting that will cost any one of the 600 people that actually own this country, any money. we are captured. now the right has foot soldiers. I don't believe it will get better before it gets really ugly.

It's all revenge politics.

I think that's because democrats are in power right now that they talk about who they could do without. Liberals do the same thing when Republicans are in power.

Actually, it's them 🤔

Amen!

How will we hold them responsible?

The problem seems to be that ALL of the people at the top are very hesitant to acknowledge that Trump and many members of Congress are guilty of treason. At some point they see killing the cancer as bad for everyone at the top. All men being created equally seems to be for us not them.

The people who organized Stop the Steal, hold them accountable.

@@adamk5937 indict them, prosecute them and, when they are convicted, jail them.

You nailed it.

Yeah but people aren't like inherently "evil"...so long as capitalism is the undergirding 'mode of production', it entrenches the broader interests of the capitalist class inherently diametrically opposed aka zero-sum _against_ the working class, this power disparity/class dynamic fuels production but concentrates over time and inevitably yields one class's domination over the other, the state itself idealistically a mediator between these social classes then becomes merely a political cudgel by the capitalist class over the working class. And thus, as some guy put it like 150+ years ago, _"the executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie_ [owning class/capitalist class/employer class]." This is inevitably what happens when "the market" becomes de facto god, social meaning and trust is hollowed out and sold for profit, consent for a largely ideologically concealed global imperialism manufactured and sublimated into a spectacle of kayfabe entertainment for folks arbitrarily born/located in the "consumer of last resort" US imperial core. Coupled with an inevitably cultivated 'business ontology' that conceives of "rationality" as a narrow tunnel-vision concerned with only one's own zero-sum material benefit, and unsurprisingly transient insatiable self-serving narcissism is prioritized above any other values as a result. The mode of production of capitalism is at the root here of course as it alone is what organizes material reality at its most foundational level in terms of ownership/control of property, out of which social relations (language, art, culture, law/government, etc.) emerges layered on top, shaping our entire ontology and thus directing the way we perceive both reality and each other. Without an awareness of this class dynamic that generates and directs these tidal _material_ forces that shape our external reality and relations to one another, aka a _class_ consciousness, the trajectory of humanity, as everyone knows at some level regardless of their ability to articulate why, has its final destination firmly set toward civilizational collapse, a thanatos embrace toward the _"common ruin of the contending classes."_ As Mussolini's March on Rome illustrates, when the paramilitary blackshirts posture their support for capital and small-holder bourgeois by beating up labor leaders, this is met by approval from those that stand to benefit from this, which importantly includes a vast majority of supposedly self-declared "left" or "liberal" small-holders/landed-gentry aka the "bourgeoisie". As the adage goes, "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds". This includes technocratic impersonal structural violence that reinforcing the divine right of "the market" entails (like raising interest rates, a la Volcker shock to increase the "reserve army of the unemployed" to reduce labor power). The 'fascism' liberals are concerned with is merely aesthetic, not so much the actual content of it which is essentially a more forceful/honest version of what they promote, _"the suppression of the left amidst popular enthusiasm"_ (Paxton in The Anatomy of Fascism). As Michael Parenti perfectly put it, _"Fascism is a false revolution. It makes a revolutionary appeal without making an actual revolution. It propagates the widely proclaimed New Order while serving the same old moneyed interests."_ To echo Rosa Luxemburg from 1918 Germany, before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's ostensibly _social democratic_ SPD party, almost immediately resonating the truth of such a succinct political dichotomy to this day: *_socialism or_* [continued] *_barbarism._* _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy (Marx, turns out he's not a dipshit moralizing child like we're endlessly told if one just actually reads what he wrote), a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us... _"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."_

I disagree and you might want to delve in history of this country. That is what built the US. evil people doing the best for themselves. That is what the civil war was fought over. That is why there are a couple of billionaires who got that way because of doing the best for themselves and having a worker force which has no choice but to work to enrich them. Historically speaking this country has weathered some really evil people and now with communications as it is, there is a good chance that good people will coordinate to overcome the evil currently plaguing our country.

What shall it do about dedicated Left fascists, determined to overthrow the US government and impose socialism, and willing to engage in any form of legal action, protest, violence and terrorism to accomplish that aim? How do you deal with a group that infiltrates the schools and prevents poor minorities from getting a functional education, replaces their curriculum with racist training, smuggles drugs into the US to destroy lives, and loots small shops?

@@Bisquick You've isolated the ideology of these new seditionists. Their argument is that free trade is entirely unacceptable, and that their violence will continue until they have the same socialist autocracy that they have ruthlessly imposed elsewhere. No deed is too vile, no lie so low, if it helps bring the Revolution they demand. They even seek to foment racism. How does one contend with the reckless hate that Left fascists bring?

i dont think you understand thinking, its more likely the truth doesnt fit the narrative you wish to follow. theres a lot of it about

@@tracyday6710 You'd be wrong.

I think you have to read her book to delve further. I also wanted some examples.

Bingo

As more wealth has accumulated at the top, more ways to bypass workers have been found, such as outsourcing jobs overseas, automation, etc. One solution might be to tax this increase monies, more. But cutting taxes has long been marketed as creating jobs, which is often not entirely true.

@@yurei8 When has it been true?

It's a new Gilded Age

You mean political capture of the corporate culture, don't you?

Here! Here!

He was doing his job as a journalist interested in a balanced interview.

Yes, that's a false equivalence logical fallacy.

As much as I consider Mr. Isaacson a national treasure, his nonchalant both-sidesism was truly disappointing! Glad I wasn’t the only one to notice that.

@@wrylife57 good journalism does rely on this so called “balanced view”, it relies on one thing only. The truth.

$10,000 is worth more than it will be in the future. Investing in the stock market is the surest way of protecting your money from inflation and the best way to build wealth. The U.S stock market is the world's biggest wealth creator which always outperforms most economic realities in the long term.

You can't really know the full risk rate except you are a Pro. Reason I settled for advisory and guide from a stocks guru, Never been the same again with my holdings

@@adenmall7596 Glad to have stumbled on this conversation. Please can you leave the info of your investment-advisor here? I’m in dire need for one.

@@evitasmith6218 Credits to 'ELEANOR ANNETTE ECKHAUS' she has a web presence, so you can simply just search her.

Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her

That quote being taken out of context makes me upset. Do you consider Biden to be a tyrant? Do you know the dictionary definition of what a tyrant is?

@@robowaifutechnician 1) No, I do not consider Biden a Tyrant(an oppressive leader). 2) Biden is our President and a patriot, but almost half our country doesn't agree with me because they are not getting facts (alternate truth) from their prefered news sources. 3) The Jefferson quote was used as a metaphor for how our country is starting to move toward this extremism and it's getting worse. I could have just as easily used a quote from John Brown. Honestly, I think you missed my point.

In this or in another thing I saw, LaFrance mentions encouraging people to run. Yes, please. There are people who say there are pedophiles in the basement of a pizza parlor, with no basement. There are people who say the earth is flat. They are work arounds. History will be the same as Nazi Germany….how did they let it happen? What we can do is…cut to the chase. Make it easier for people to run, elect them…do as Warren Buffet suggests…get budget in order, or lose the seat. Through all of this…some greatness has emerged. We have some fine minds doing analysis, explaining legal procedures…. and Adrienne LaFrance here, Malcolm Nance, Brian Tyler Cohen, LTCOL Vindman, tap them to run at least one term. Biggest political party has been There’s Nobody To Vote For Party. Change it.

@@robowaifutechnician I have to ask, what part of that post made you think it was aimed at Biden instead of the governors signing laws criminalizing people living as trans, teachers handling out books that Christian Nationalists disapprove of, and having medically needed abortions? No one considers Biden a tyrant. Even the Right at worst view him as a weak senile corrupt buffoon.

@@robowaifutechnician IQ45 wishes to be a tyrant

She was REMARKABLY Smart!!!

@@patrickwalsh4615 what a stupid thing to say. Infotainment, disinformation, people not being clear or coming at things with an agenda is a big problem. Anyone who was as clear and knowledgeable is increasingly rare in our fxcked up media environment. One might say... remarkably so. Hmmmm... who is Patrick Walsh? Oh... "This channel doesn't have any content". Get a life.

She needs to read some Chomsky

Left-wing extremism has succeeded in shutting down public discourse. Intersectionality has enforced conformity. Critical race theory has arbitrarily designated some groups as victims and others as oppressors. So Jewish and Zionist speakers get shouted down and attacked on college campuses. The Left is racist.

Name me 1 "right wing" organization that Burned down neighborhoods Looted local stores Took over 16 blocks of a city and called it an autonomous zone Closed down streets and assaulted people just trying to go about their day when they refused to drive where they were told to by an average citizen..................... I'll wait

I think believing the lies of an overweight orangutan about a free and fair election that he lost by more than 7,000,000 votes and upon his orders, try to overthrow the US government to install him as a modern day Adolf Hitler more than compare to the overblown example of the riots in Washington state...

@@armandolarade7861 Which is why you are another of the useful idiots that both republican and Democrat politicians love. You don't understand that you've been played to be on one of the manufactured sides that of a uniparty that doesn't give two shits about you. Your rhetoric around the former president is the same as the rhetoric that the right uses about the current president. Which is ad hominem identity attacks, rather than any discussion of the policies that both democrat and republican politicians enact that suppress and oppress us all. Watching politicians is like watching professional wrestling. After the match, they go in back and have a beer together. You the spectator, choose to believe that the rivalry is real, and get into a fight with a guy who supports the guy you don't. It's magnificent distraction, and genius in it's design. And has been used on populations for centuries.

@@jeradblazek677 I am a Canadian observer, and you're absolutely right, your politics is a real WWF soap opera but unfortunately, real people are getting blown up in the crossfire, you asked for an example and I gave you the best one. If a political coup doesn't cut it, I don't know what would. Your political right wing is working really hard to turn back the clock by trampling on rights that have been hard fought for. Some of these laws being brought forward by some of the red states would make the Taliban blush....book bannings, anti lgbtq and trans laws, the abortion rights, the voting rights, it's outright dictatorship level actions from the supposed freedom party, but, you want to say both parties are equal in their actions so I can't argue with that, it's your opinion. Have a great weekend.

Excellent comment on connecting "Libertarianism" (the blanket term for Austrian/Chicago economics, and also Ayn Rand and her cult) with authoritarianism, as it is indeed a stone's throw between the two. Libertarians love "freedom" and "liberty" until citizens use their constitutionally-guaranteed right of assembly to demand better working conditions, racial/gender equity, etc. - then the rabble are demanding more than they deserve, and it's time to put them in their place!

@@ericv7720 Thank you for bringing this key point home. The self-delusion behind the “makers vs. takers” argument that Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and others in the so-called “normal” wing of the Republican Party made during the Obama years was just a slicker, seemingly more humane, and less honest version of the self-absorption, greed and racism driving the MAGA Republicans. They both derive from the same diseased root: their shared belief in their superior right to call the shots for everyone in this society.

Brilliant analysis. Thank you.

Which is exactly why we need a new constitution. And we should all be talking about what didn't work and doesn't work for the current state of the world. We get to vote on having a constitutional convention every 10 years. Just missed the last one. 9 years to come up with a better plan, with the voices of Black, Brown, Asian, Native American and female are included and represented. If you think the world hasn't come up with better ideas in the last 250 ish years, I dare you, next time you're in the emergency room or doctors office insist you only want the treatment available in 1776(or whatever your start year for the USA is).

@@2Question-Everything the trouble is, amendment is not actionable as any amendment or a change to the constitution must be ratified by the states. Of course we know what’s going on in state houses now. It’s Margo and Gaetzetti all the way in over 60% of capitols. And SCOTUS is populated by judges who believe in state’s rights until that state is blue, and in totalitarianism when those states are red.

Regardless of who you are we all must step up and learn the facts, help others learn the facts, realize what builds a society, rights and equality and what tears it down. Then gather, vote and help others to vote. You find this very hard to stomach and so do other generations but that requires the people to stand up and take part in change for the good of all. There has been a movement for a long time and a lot of it has been underground but it is very clear now there is a movement towards autocratic rule and fascism that will strip everything from us. We have to fight for democracy.

Awwwww. Poor you. We were at war for 20 years. How many tours did you do snowflake?

@@sjb3460 Your story of “nothing should improve because things were worse in the past” is the most low level, reactionary bs that everyone with a smooth brain loves to sprout off anytime someone suggests that things aren’t all sunshine and rainbows. Grow up.

And avocado toast (small batch).

Actually, you have seen the most stable time in history. The problem is that you have been spoiled and think life is easy. Please stop thinking you are exceptional and study history.

Oh thanks! I'll have to check that out.

Mehdi Hassan “I mean George Bush illegally invaded Iraq, committed what have been credibly called war crimes, and got re-elected a year later.”

Interesting

You would have never had pirates roaming the Carribean if it wasnt for the cessation of spanish, english, and french wars in the area. People who had spent their lives sailing and fighting turned that expertise to commercial terrorism.

The so-called "right wingers" are predominately against war. It is the establishment left, the party in power in the US, that is the driving force behind aggressive militarism of the US government.

Only ppl that are held accountable are drug users and homeless ppl and poor people trying to pay their bills

accept

This is a slave system. Nothing to unite with the happy slaves for. The reality is that the species is doomed, and with the end of human kind, so will end all that is wrong on earth. Humans are an obstacle to life on earth continuing. The false reality you live in will not last much longer.

too bad the Left destroys communities. legalizing shoplifting, soft on crime, while taking people's rights and censoring opposing views.

@@SoloRenegade I smell foreign troll. How is life in your little country?

Which is why I became interested in Communitarianism- still a sadly neglected movement here. Maybe Heterodox Academy comes closest.

@@hirampriggott1689 US is in rough shape, but I have a feeling she'll bounce back once the woke idiots are given a dose of reality. As their cities become riddled with crime due to their own policies. as their economy collapses and people get a hard lesson in basic economics in the next 10yrs or so. Insults and projection are the only arguments the woke left has. can't win arguments on merit nor facts.

But is that possible if leaders show no interest in building community or are even hostile to that because they are only interested in keeping themselves in power by using divide-and-conquer tactics? The 2022 article "Movies Which Explore the Consequences Borne by People Removed From Traditional Group Norms" asks: - Shouldn’t our leaders and politicians be doing more to preserve and promote group norms that encourage people to live together harmoniously and also work together productively?

Right Wing violence isn't about destroying government; it is about taking CONTROL of the government. It is antithetical to Anarchism.

If you "choose" to murder someone and are put in prison, is that an example of the government "restricting your choices?" If you steal my car and I press charges, am I somehow guilty of infringing on your rights? So it really comes down to the debate about what should or shouldn't be a "freedom." The right wants laws that protect individuals, but at the same time, they think the government is too large, corrupt, and inefficient. I don't know many right-wing people who care what goes on in someone else's bedroom between consenting adults. I know a lot of right-wing people who want to see most drugs legalized. You seem to be of the belief that most right-wing people are Puritans from 1650. It's simply not true. I think the left and right agree on most social issues (exceptions being abortion and all the ridiculous SJW crap). The divide seems to be on how government is structured and ran. The left wants a Soviet style communist system where no one is allowed to own property, are allotted a little 500 square foot apartment, a menial government job, and a tiny salary. Sure, everyone is poor and miserable, but at least they're "equal" and hospital visits are free. The right, on the other hand, is more capitalistic and libertarian. The right believes the government should stay out of private affairs as much as possible (except for law enforcement) and that people should be free to organize, start or run businesses without government interference.

There were already anarchist groups before 1900. Back then they were somewhat aligned with the communists.

The problems, especially in highly emotional areas like domestic violence, is that no one commits a crime thinking they will get caught so the deterrence really does not work. Something needs to be done and it is often problems with complex social interactions which also shows problems with how our society teaches conflict resolution in relationships.

🌎: "Remember the British, Parliament? they had a close call, almost blown up. The Guy Fawkes 'event'. There were anarchy beginnings by some 'men', they were caught. A man named Guy Fawkes was a separate main character. Please review that. Its weird how a British-Aussie is part of 'blowing-up' the workings of Congress. This time, main players trying to use a Reality Show. The rupertMurdoch family-associates-businesses and 'corporation' and lawyers are legally responsible for their dialogs and word-work. Especially Carlson-Hannity-Ingraham. Charge the rupertMurdoch group with additional 1.6 billion for each of them. And the rest, lump them into another 1.6 billion. About 10billion can put the murdochs in a different business group." Just a thought.

That didn't work in Russia pre 1917, it breeds the hate, from the people incarcerated to their friends and relatives in the outside.

@jf2176I really hope you’re using sarcasm! That laptop is nothing but you want to talk about stealing an election??

@J F Should have downloaded his naked pics while they were still up on Twitter. "Twitter files" indeed!

Yes. And the anti-fascists are made equivalent to fascists. There's no logic or reason to these comparisons.

It's unequivocally a false equivalence logical fallacy.

Indigestion v. blunt trauma

The whole idea of antifascist violence and interference is laughable. Antifascist... Think about what that means. Anti. Fascist I am less concerned about Antifa than I am about the Fascist republicans who they're resisting. I suppose that I'm Antifa as I understand that fascism is dangerous and is slowly gaining ground in the US Book banning, hatred of gays, anti abortion laws that put womens lives at risk, government dictating what schools may teach, the election of some of the WORST that put communities have to offer...ie.. MTG, boebert, george santos In fascist government, the dummies always end up running things... Into the ground

Well from there perspective they don't understand the constitution I know it sounds dumb but people don't want to read it and instead just want peace without the democracy part because they think they can ignore that stuff and still have a democracy

They didn’t want to hit the politicians

Imagine having your only frame of reference for white supremacist right-wing political violence being the 1920's left because of a dozen people killed over a ten year period as opposed to the white supremacists who murdered hundreds of black people in Greenville Oklahoma in two days during that exact same period. It's like, "How do I describe a national movement by the political right to constantly murder minorities? That time there was a national movement by the political right to constantly murder minorities maybe? Naw... a random guy shooting a president that one time a few years later, that'll cover it." 🙄

She said it was a "new anarchism," that it differentiated from the classic anarchist ideological movements in history. I took it to mean anarchy but the difference between it as a verb and a noun, in other words lower case anarchy, not capital-A Anarchy.

Lately being labeled a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center has become a badge of honor.

Liberals hate conservatives and want them eliminated, even more than conservatives want liberals gone. The Left insists that the Right be forcefully compelled to think like them, while the Right mostly just wants the Left to keep their crazy bullshit to themselves. Those of us in the middle wish the nutbags on both sides would just violently filter each other out of the gene pool, so the rest of us can enjoy a nice quiet swim.

@@jimfrazier8611 I think it's the people who speak for both sides causing most of the problems.

lol humans are totally atomized. There is no 'society' to ostracize individuals from you moronic bot.

Ostracized people are more hateful, good spirit but wrong direction.

Don’t worry, it’s coming for you too, and sooner than you think, it comes from within. You just don’t know it. How many people die on the streets and and on ttc this week. It’s daily, you didn’t notice there were hardly none last year. 100 will be 200 soon

@@donovanjones4175 those TTC incidents are due to mental illness.

Oookay...?

You're right this interview brings up a lot of great points.

And there is a sweeping, and false, narrative about Anarchists in the early 20th century. "Palmer raids were unconstitutional and an over reaction buuuuuuut... We need to crack down because it's good? This is just copaganda.

Yes, this "signaling of journalistic fairness" that isn't helpful.

Really? You still don’t get it. You are part of the problem. We lived through 2020/2021 where riots were tolerated and celebrated by the very people who are condemning “Christians” and “Trump supporters”.

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Isn't that the same as: Two-sides Fallacy (also, Teach the Controversy): The presentation of an issue that makes it seem to have two sides of equal weight or significance, when in fact a consensus or much stronger argument supports just one side. Also called “false balance” or “false equivalence.” (Thanks to Teaching Tolerance for this definition!) E.g,. "Scientists theorize that the Earth is a sphere, but there are always two sides to any argument: Others believe that the Earth is flat and is perched on the back of a giant turtle, and a truly balanced presentation of the issue requires teaching both explanations without bias or unduly favoring either side over the other." Two Truths (also, Compartmentalization; Epistemically Closed Systems; Alternative Truth): A very corrupt and dangerous fallacy of logos and ethos, first formally described in medieval times but still common today, holding that there exists one "truth" in one given environment (e.g., in science, work or school) and simultaneously a different, formally contradictory but equally true "truth" in a different epistemic system, context, environment, intended audience or discourse community (e.g., in one's religion or at home). This can lead to a situation of stable cognitive dissonance where, as UC Irvine scholar Dr. Carter T. Butts describes it (2016), "I know but don't believe," making rational discussion difficult, painful or impossible. This fallacy also describes the discourse of politicians who cynically proclaim one "truth" as mere "campaign rhetoric" used "to mobilize the base," or "for domestic consumption only," and a quite different and contradictory "truth" for more general or practical purposes once in office. See also Disciplinary Blinders; Alternative Truth.

PBS is a government sponsored propaganda agency.

@@TheJagjr4450 no. You’re misunderstanding. PBS tried so hard to be fair, it twists itself into knots to do both sides, not that it’s “government propaganda.” It tries hard to not do that.

I agree. There needs to be a lot more self-examination and less finger-pointing. Hate is a problem on '"the left," too. Most often, when we hate, we aren't aware that hating is what we're doing.

Multiple genocides were also part of that. Doesn't mean anything like that should be repeated.

@@Wolf-ln1ml It definitely will not be repeated. Psalms 46:10

@@TheZenGarden_ Should I start citing random stuff from my favourite fantasy books, too? Or are you capable of an actual conversation?

@@Wolf-ln1ml The wise shall inherit glory: *but shame shall be the promotion of fools.* ~ Proverbs 3:35

​@@TheZenGarden_ You do not wish to know anything. You wish only to speak. That which you know you ignore because it is inconvenient. That which you do not know you invent. - Delenn, Babylon 5

The plotters & planners from Orange Menace, flunkies & complicit GOP still have NOT been held accountable. The WORST of the most toxic. Major CRIMINALS still pushing the LIES.

the Democrats are no different than the Republicans when it comes to intent. they just go about it in a more palatable way. they could learn a lot from progressives if they'd stop stomping on them.

Defending one side is not debunking, it is proving Isaacson right.

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Cable subscribers have the power to influence content. Call your provider and tell them to drop Fox News. Verizon dropped OAN.

Legally, that would be impossible, and you wouldn't like the results in history where it was made legal. Can't just go rounding people up based on a profile, they have to actively break laws to be arrested, and be convicted of crimes that warrant life sentences.

You're talking about the most profitable and popular cable and prime time news homie. They're not getting dropped by anyone.

@@subcitizen2012 With so many ignorant people in America you are right, there target audience living in rest homes and trailer parks aren't dying off quick enough, but in another 10 years they'll mostly all be gone.

@@subcitizen2012 If people wise up and stop watching it will be dropped. Fox is very popular with senior citizens.

I don't think any level of violence will quell the current rising tide of hate and mal intent. I personally think it has to be policing--even in the not-so-constitutional ways she discussed in the interview. If two dogs are fighting, showing them other dog fights won't stop them. Turning a powerful jet of water on them will.

@@wrylife57 I think whats happening and albeit slowly is that people are moving to the regions that most support their culture views and politics. The interesting thing will be--what happens when there is only one party concentration in a region? How long until the fighting and othering starts up again--the far right fighting the right wing centrists. The left has that and has had that for decades. Typically we don't pick up guns and execute the folks we've other'd or cancelled. I think the issue is far larger than just culture wars. I truly believe it's our subconscious selves being tuned into the darker reality that faces the human race environmentally and our potential for Class disparity.

Well, the right wingers got this right - the system doesn't work for the 99%.

Oklahoma City involved a couple of capable and determined individuals with political ideology as their justification for violent extremism… but it did not include End Times Theology and Cultish Supernatural conspiracies. WACO had the religious fantasies but in a violent defensive,not offensive, posture. Create a Cult with competent T.Mc.Vay types … And we have the tip of a Christian Nationalist spear. Most Christians will say they don’t approve, but they are adults and they have chosen who to believe … Tragically for them, it’s not team science, tolerance and democracy. It’s team prophecy, anti-woke and Christian Nation.

@@cipherklosenuf9242 The extremist Christian movement has been going in that direction of escalating militancy since the 70's. Erik Prince who started Blackwater(His group is called something else now) cultivated an international special warfare mercenary force with heavy christian glory over tones--literally an anti islam force but at home they will take on contracts that could target our own citizens if the job pays they will operate and kill. Meanwhile plenty of Evangenital churches have used militant language and the way of the Warrior mentality to build their flocks--You take broken people and you give them something to die for and a reward for their sacrifice, truly a recipe for absolute disaster. A potential test could be coming soon if trump is Indicted in March or early April for the Hush money payment to Stormy Daniels --if one or several of trumps devotees/cultists retaliates for a low level felony charge we will surely know that his wacko's are still fully committed to his idiocy. Lastly when people look back at the last six to seven years they will have no other words than this was one of the stupidest eras in human history.

The Pandora’s box is wiiiide open.

The effort to appear balanced and fair undermines credibility.

The Left Wing extremists are actually worse than the Jan 6th crowd in terms of violence and destruction. Don't believe me? Nobody threw a Molotov Cocktail into the Capitol Building, unlike virtually any night in any major city during the BLM riots.

Left and center? You think the only provocateurs are on the right? What about the 2 billion dollars in insurance claims for the violence during the summer of 2020?

@@arpadzigisfari5819 97% of BLM protest were peaceful. The point this woman is making is that right wing provocateurs were actively stoking violence during this time. While no destruction of property is ok, especially not the sacking of Congress to commit insurrection, the good people fighting right wing treason need be much smarter. They need to understand how violent and black the hearts of these extremist are and be much smarter than them in dealing with the scourge of right wing fascist ideology.

@@JustSayPie I'm not sure of what right wing fascist ideology is. I believe in the Constitution and limited government. Fascism is a big government system involving big business and big government operating together to run society. 97% of the protesters on January 6 were peaceful. The east side of the Capitol had no violence at all, but the news media hasn't been covering that. A very heavy magnetic door on the east side of the Capitol can only be opened by operating a switch from inside the Capitol. There is video of the door being opened for the protesters from inside the Capitol. Why was the door opened? There is also video of Capitol police opening the gates for the protesters outside the Capitol on the west side and ushered them in. There is still debates on whether or not the FBI planted informants in the crowd on January 6. The FBI had up to eight informants in the Proud Boys for several months around the time of the January 6 protest according to "USA Today." If you look at the video newly released concerned the January 6 events, protesters inside the Capitol were doing things like taking selfies. It was not an insurrection. Progressives are using this in the same way they used Covid - lots of fear mongering in order to get people to do things their way.

@@JustSayPie I disagree. In my opinion the left isn't violent enough. These are Nazis for fuck's sake and the only way to deal with Nazis is to destroy them. Nazis only really respect and understand a violent response in the first place.

She was pretty clear in outlining that it's not an ideology, like the historical examples you're citing, that it's more of a manifestation, the results of their actions causing anarchy as a state of affairs or as an end result. Sort of like the difference between it being a verb and a noun. You're talking about the noun, she's talking about the verb. Not to be confused as the same thing.

@@subcitizen2012 I take your point. Still, it's not historical to me. I am a Christian Anarchist. Sorry I let my feelings get bruised; we just get all kinds of misunderstanding, and I thought, "Oh no, not again!"

Christian anarchist?? Christianity is itself a male dominated power structure. What am I missing??

@@DoloresJNurss Society needs more adults to ask those internal questions, period. When I was a kid in the 70s, I remember a preacher explaining that the term "Christian cynic" should mean someone honest enough to ask those questions because those questions matter, and the twofold benefit is an active, growing, resilient faith, and awareness of personal weaknesses that need to be kept in check. (Definitely not someone dealing only in the neg) But, by and large, neither viewpoint seems to be common practice anymore and such terms are dismissed out-of-hand. Thanks for your post. 👍😉

@@MikeCarrick Good question. What you're missing is the hijacking of Christianity by male dominion--as has happened with every religion, no matter how feminist its origins. For instance, when Martha complains to Jesus that her sister Mary Magdalene should be helping her with housework instead of sitting at His feet listening to Him teach, His reply, "She has chosen the better part,"was a traditional saying to tell a family to stop trying to nag a son into following his father's trade if he wants to become a rabbi. But the patriarchalists couldn't allow that! So they conflated Mary Magdalene with a different woman and made her the patron saint of penitent prostitutes, and tried to wipe out all record of the fact that the early church regarded her as "The Apostle to the apostles", seeing it as no fluke that she discovered the resurrection before anybody else. That bit about women submitting to their husbands? That probably wasn't written by St. Paul--there's some indication that it was a much later addition, along with a few other letters supposedly written by St. Paul but in a totally different style and with messages often contradictory to the other letters of more certain provenance. Cut out to make room for these additions was The Acts of Saints Thecla and Saint Paul, hoping that people would forget that Paul had a Platonic female companion named Thecla on many of his journeys, who preached sermons same as he did. And there's been documented cases where female saints were rewritten into male saints in the Bible, or their words later put into the mouths of their husbands. And let's not forget the Old Testament passage where, in the oldest versions, God said, "Why have you forsaken me, O Israel, when I writhed in labor with you?" that somehow got changed into, "Why have you forsaken me, O Israel, when I have begotten you?" And on and on...I could write all day about how Christianity got colonized.

She's not talking about anarchy as a political ideology. Which is difficult to tweeze out anyway. If this is a new political anarchy, why would you want more of it? It would just devolve further into those two sides with no state in the middle for them to fight. No thanks.

She is paid as a journalist but what I see here is a good type of college student summary of other people's work.

I'm a Gen Xer who thinks Boomers need to shove off and retire and let Gen Z take the reins. I'm afraid it's even too late for millennials but they don't seem to do much except vacation overseas and drink craft beer anyway! Boomers have done enough and I believe are the main force behind Trump and Fox News and Facebook fascism. I also think once you're over 75 or 80 you should stop voting! My mom is late 80s and seriously has no idea what today's real issues are!