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U.S. Prosecutors Have Too Much Power 

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Today, a national debate rages about the functioning of our criminal justice system. Is it fair? Does it serve the ends of justice and public safety? Does it apply equally to all? Prosecutors, endowed with both autonomy and immunity, hold immense power within this system. They control secret grand jury proceedings, who will be prosecuted, and the specifics of charges. Moreover, those charges are often based on complex laws -- and enforced by long mandatory minimum prison sentences -- creating strong incentives for defendants to capitulate to lesser charges, perhaps even to crimes they did not commit. Indeed, more than 90% of both federal and state court cases never go trial, but instead are resolved through plea bargaining. Autonomy and secrecy, complex criminal code and mandatory minimums -- in combination, these factors have given prosecutors enormous leverage, and the opportunity to wield it relentlessly and selectively. The results, critics charge, are the undermining of the right to jury trial, mass incarceration, public skepticism regarding equal justice, and immense pressure on every defendant.
Yet there can be no justice without empowered prosecutors. And is abuse really endemic? Isn't the national crime rate down over the long-term, showing that these powers work? And would changes reducing the leverage of prosecutors in the criminal justice system weaken their critical responsibility to prosecute crimes of great complexity, keep communities and the nation safe, and secure justice? Do prosecutors have too much power?

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@ErickaAJo
@ErickaAJo 8 лет назад
One of the more interesting topics I have seen covered in recent months. Glad to see this level of discussion and respect for the exchange of ideas.
@bvsandman
@bvsandman 8 лет назад
The problem is, the ones in power, don't get in trouble. From a previous case of a DEA agents daughter being caught with drugs that would send someone to jail for 3-5 years, who pretty much got off. To a man who got a ticket for being parked in red zone, when he found a police officer to write a ticket to a city official who did the same thing, the officer REFUSED and said "It's at my discretion." Oh, really? It seems to be discretion that falls onto the side of the ones in power more than anything. No transparency, no trust, no justice.
@IRockLikeISaid
@IRockLikeISaid 8 лет назад
I seriously feel that the against side's purpose here is self advertising, those lawyers loves playing the emotional cards too much. Can't believe people still fall for that bs.
@yjopharaoh2727
@yjopharaoh2727 Год назад
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@blakeshroyer627
@blakeshroyer627 6 лет назад
How on God's green Earth does a prosecutor argue against those who have been wrongfully locked up whereas the DNA project exonerated them? These are innocent people who were ripped from their families accused and convicted with lie-witness testimony. How? How would a prosecutor even begin to argue against putting an innocent person in prison?
@snicky58
@snicky58 5 лет назад
I guess this was technically outside the scope of the motion debated here, but I'd like to hear more discussion about how the fact that DAs are elected might contribute to a "winning is everything" mentality among prosecutors.
@Paciorekkenneth
@Paciorekkenneth 9 месяцев назад
Can we agree that the judicial system is weaponized
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 8 месяцев назад
No we cannot
@rumi9005
@rumi9005 8 лет назад
Prosecutors and police are rewarded for successful prosecutions and guilty verdicts. This is probably a good thing. But my worry is that it may cause the guilt or innocence of a person to become secondary to the process. It may sometimes be tempting to hold back evidence that will exonerate an innocent person in order to have a quick and easy successful prosecution. People do cheat. And prosecutors and the police are not immune. If the desire is there, it's actually pretty easy, by using threats, fear and intimidation, to force an innocent person into a confession of guilt. The more serious the crime, the easier it is to intimidate the accused. Faced with the death penalty, how many of us might end up confessing to a crime we didn't commit. My question is, what safeguards, if any, do we have in place to prevent this?
@mrtwister9002
@mrtwister9002 4 года назад
Mandatory minimum sentences are coercion to take a plea bargain.
@squirreljester2
@squirreljester2 8 лет назад
I had a thought about this, what the one guy on the far right went through, that sounds like a horribly long process. If you are innocent, who the hell can take off months from work to go through that process to prove your innocence.
@Charlemagne_III
@Charlemagne_III 8 лет назад
+squirreljester2 You don't have to go through the entire process, the process ends at whatever point you aren't believably guilty.
@lukemanius
@lukemanius 4 года назад
@@Charlemagne_III while you have a logical point, you speak from ignorance. You would absolutely not feel the same way if the waiting was in jail due to an unaffordable bond. You absolutely wouldn't feel the same way if you had to wear an ankle monitor to ensure a lack of communication with a witness. You absolutely wouldn't feel the same way if you couldn't keep or get new employment due to catching trumped-up charges.
@deacongarygrant
@deacongarygrant Год назад
Speaking from the position of a victim of prosecutorial misconduct I was disappointed in the outcome but it gives a perfect example of how a wrong action can be made to look right based on suede percentages. Granted that from a pool of ignorant or undecided votes one side picked up 4% more than the other in no way supports the fact that prosecutors have way too much power. Where the intelligence decisive-minded people stood solid on their ground and increased in the numbers the pool of fools will always remain indecisive and blowing like leaves in the wind. Had the option to be undecided been removed, I believe the numbers would have reflected a more accurate outcome. Nonetheless there is a serious over empowerment of the prosecutors which needs to be addressed.
@SoldierLifeAJ
@SoldierLifeAJ Месяц назад
Man that's crazy they lost! Man it shows it's more about political power than doing right by people
@matthewproudfoot8406
@matthewproudfoot8406 4 года назад
thank out for speaking out.
@apove1814
@apove1814 6 лет назад
Too much power
@heritageresearchcenter8970
@heritageresearchcenter8970 Год назад
What no one knows is that every conviction creates a performance BOND worth millions for the government entities distributed into local and commission coffers. The prisoner is the collateral. Bottom line: the entire business is legalized PIRACY.
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 8 месяцев назад
Put the fentanyl down, lunatic. You’re talking nonsense.
@thinkinggamer701
@thinkinggamer701 8 лет назад
I'm surprised that the motion against won. I would've expected the motion for to win. Especially since the prosecutor can throw the book, kitchen sink, and so forth against the defendant. Additionally, there's a lot of fraternization that goes on in the legal system. People who play golf with people. Things like that make for a who do you know instead of what does the law say environment.
@robertsharples9265
@robertsharples9265 8 лет назад
the For side lost because most of what they said was rhetoric. Very little of it was a debate and they never responded substantively to the Against side's larger points. I agree with the For side but based on this debate if I had not previous opinion I would have voted for the Against side.
@thinkinggamer701
@thinkinggamer701 8 лет назад
***** I can see your point. The sad part is that lawyers do have too much power. Whether prosecutors or judges. There are documented cases of abuse. Sadly, yes, they should've cited more cases where power is abused and justice not served.
@MoonChildMedia
@MoonChildMedia 7 лет назад
They only lost because of the weird way they scored. Bottom line, more people believe prosecutors have too much power by a pretty healthy margin.
@thinkinggamer701
@thinkinggamer701 3 года назад
@strike6tutorials Not sure who you're talking to, but why should race matter?
@bvsandman
@bvsandman 8 лет назад
15:25 What a load, that right there is the biggest lie I've ever heard. Remember this, when a police officer, or an attorney asks you questions or is investigating something, they have no obligation, to get you off, they have no obligation, to help you. They only have an obligation to FIND AND PROSECUTE/ARREST a person they feel did the crime.
@ElRancholo2
@ElRancholo2 8 лет назад
Brad V, you are wrong. All prosecutors have an ethical duty to act in the best interest of justice, even if it results in a dismissal. They DO have an obligation to "get you off" or "help you" if you are innocent. Police officers also swear to protect the innocent. Since you obviously have no idea of what you're talking about, please shut your hole and stop spreading stupidity!
@bvsandman
@bvsandman 8 лет назад
ElRancholo2 They can swear to an oath and swear to protect the innocent, doesn't mean they are going too. Idc about what you believe ethics are, COPs don't abide by them.
@sistrgoldenhair11
@sistrgoldenhair11 6 лет назад
ElRancholo2 , you in fact is horrifyingly wrong, as you rant at people to shut yheir mouth in utter ignorance! Prosecutors prosecute, period. They have control of virtually all of the evidence and decide what to release to the defense. They CAN and often do charge anyone with anything and offer outrageous sentences if you choose trial. They have virtually no obligation to seek truth or present all the evidence because you are allegedly able to have effective defense. They make coercive offers and xlimb the ladder based on conviction rates. They don't have to provide innocence during an investigation even when they have evidence to that fact. They often get to jury selection day and offer a plea when they have a weak case. I PERSONALLY know this to be true. I sat for 2 and a half years fighting a charge i had nothing to do with. The week prior to trial they told me I had an offer of 2 years prison but if i chose trial they warned the max. I refused. The Monday morning of jury selection...two years and five months after i was arrested and held on 200K bond that I couldn't pay the prosecutors DROPPED my charges for lack of evidence! They didnt know they didnt have evidence the week prior to trial. B.S.! They wanted a final conviction. PERIOD!
@sistrgoldenhair11
@sistrgoldenhair11 6 лет назад
*you ARE horrifyingly wrong
@Yes-rt5to
@Yes-rt5to 6 лет назад
What I really want to know is what the Public Prosecution Services does with the money and properties of convicted criminals. Where I live...on a small Island they have a "criminal combat fund",where they supposedly deposit the money to help combat crimes. But the crime rate is at an all time high at the moment....Lol Who controls the fund?? Is also a good question.
@Charlemagne_III
@Charlemagne_III 8 лет назад
The "for" side seems all about social issues, but doesn't really prove too much power in any meaningful way. They make a lot of sweeping statements but these are swiftly shot down by the other side.
@nicholas1460
@nicholas1460 8 лет назад
Should the Federal Government be responsible for all Public Defender Offices?
@loriecolton1462
@loriecolton1462 5 лет назад
I WOULD HAVE TO SAY YES ON THAT . IF THEY WERE OVER SEEING PUBLIC DEFENDER, ATTORNEYS . I THINK THEY WOULD DO A MUCH JOB FOR THE DEFENDANT. THE JUDGE AS WELL AS THE PROSECUTOR ALL SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE . THEY KNOW WHAT S GOING ON IN THE KANGAROO COURT .
@paxdriver
@paxdriver 8 лет назад
Paul Butler is really awkward. The "for" side is seriously outclassed by maturity alone.
@hafaskater
@hafaskater 8 лет назад
+Kris Driver Awkward how?
@paxdriver
@paxdriver 8 лет назад
Terrell Taylor sorry, it must've seemed obvious to me at the time lol haven't watched the video in months, can't remember :P
@hafaskater
@hafaskater 8 лет назад
Kris Driver Haha. All good.
@ethanboyd7843
@ethanboyd7843 2 года назад
All the more comelling after watching ADA Binger slip on a stepping stone named Rittenhouse while trying to make his political bones by putting gun laws, defendant's rights and video games on trial instead of a crime. All the while willing to throw away a teenagers rights in the process.
@matthewproudfoot8406
@matthewproudfoot8406 4 года назад
please anyone with a strong connection to Justice. HELP.
@MrJoking4fun
@MrJoking4fun 7 лет назад
I swear, there isn't a talk, debate, or issue that goes by where a black dude can't help but talk about black people, and how they are victims. This was no different. I waited and was ready for it, and voila, there it was 21:20.
@zxb5998
@zxb5998 6 лет назад
MrJoking4fun The 1st debater opened up describing the injustice against black men & hispanic men. She went on to describe the injustice against white males. She literally layed out & accurately described the biases in our justice system and how it harms all people, yet because a black person described their personal experience with the injustices in our society you'd dismiss the entire argument, even with the evidence of how it not only harms people of color, but whites as well. The pathology of racists is a very dangerous ideology. Not just from whites but people of color as well.
@loriecolton1462
@loriecolton1462 5 лет назад
HE DID TALK ABOUT THE POOR PEOPLE BLACK ,YELLOW, WHITE , RED HE DIDNT JUST TALK ABOUT THE BLACK FOLKS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL.
@coastda
@coastda 7 лет назад
This is was passes for a debate....a couple of nice but relatively inexperienced EX-prosecutors debating Paul - "I hate Cops" Butler and the friend of Bill and Hillary who was rewarded with a federal judgeship? Were the sponsor afraid to have a REAL debate?
@deenibeeni3938
@deenibeeni3938 8 лет назад
Almost everything the "for" side said was couched in some tacit notion that everyone getting prosecuted is innocent, which is a crock. That guy was just a good orator, the whole folksy attitude, "I'm "one of you (except that I wear a 3,000-dollar suit)". JFC, ho does that remind me of.
@Micscience
@Micscience 8 лет назад
+Denise Di Salvo Actually you are innocent until proven guilty. On top of that though a person may be guilty by the law, morally he can be innocent. For example in my opinion if a person is found guilty for possession of a drug, that is not guilty to me. The man is going to be put away because he wanted to privately consume a drug to make himself happy? the idea another person would put someone in jail for such a reason is insanity however it happens every day.
@MoonChildMedia
@MoonChildMedia 7 лет назад
I wonder how many people being prosecuted are guilty of victim-less crimes? Or even property crimes? If I was a victim of a property crime, I'd much rather have the perpetrator work to pay me back than to have him sit in jail costing me more money. The only crimes that should get people locked up are violent crimes.
@MoonChildMedia
@MoonChildMedia 3 года назад
@strike6tutorials What people MIGHT do if they use drugs is completely separate from the act of using drugs. Not every person who uses drugs will harm someone because of it. Do you think there are people who drink alcohol but also live their lives responsibly without stealing or harming other people? If so, then the same can be said about any mind altering substance.
@rondabusch8925
@rondabusch8925 Год назад
Yes they do have to much power because there are many of them that only want to prosecute they aren't out to seek justice especially when no one else not even the supposed victim wants to prosecute the so called suspect . For example my 17 yr old son was a special ed student in high school his mind was about as mature as a 14 or 15 yr old so when he had consensual sex with a ,14 yr old girl and then told his special ed teacher well he had no idea he had committed a crime the state of Texas has a 3 yr age difference that makes it sexual assault if there is more than three yrs between the two teenagers ..well the teacher had to report it even if she didnt want to because she knew my son didnt know. Better .but the Prosecutor is the only one that took it upon herself to prosecute my son to the fullest she said she was going to give him 20 yrs if he didn't take a plea for 8 yrs . She ruined a young boys life whom simply didn't know the law my son was 17 yr old being a normal teenager didn't mean to break the law , where is the justice in this no one not the parent of girl nor 14 yr old girl wanted my son to be charged the DA of Comal county Jenifer tharp is the only one that wanted to prosecute my son to the fullest who is she seeking justice for ? No one my son went from high school to prison and in the worst maximum security prison in Texas fighting to stay alive everyday how can this be our justice system this is the most injustice I've ever seen now that's all my son knows is prison and when he gets out he isn't going to have life either because he has to register as a sexual offender .Tell me where is this right to take a young boys life away from him . Yes prosecutors have way to much power it isn't right how they corherse people that make one mistake into taking pleas because they are afraid to have to do the maximum. We need to take the power away from a prosecutor they need to have someone that regulates prosecutor and the prosecutor needs to be held accountable for sending people to prison when they don't deserve these harsh sentences for a first time offenxe . I'm disgusted what the system has allowed this prosecutor to do to my son
@MszGrey
@MszGrey 8 лет назад
9:04 I had to.
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 8 месяцев назад
Such a ridiculous politically correct position to take
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