Apparently if you offer the Takeda 20 turns of military access as soon as you meet them, you can get them to: 1. Break Alliance with Hojo 2. Become your ally 3. Enter war against Ikko Ikki 4. Enter war against Hojo
@@JonatasMonte as long as you have very good relations with them you can keep them as an ally in the very end (even during the realm divided and after that you can be a dick and backstab them). takeda is probably the best clan to have as an ally since it's AI is good as fuck and can some times rule over 15+ provinces
My favourite Clan, Kenshin is the best Diamyo in the game. Your no.1 priority early on should be maximum aggression, taking towns with zero regard for protecting your own territory.
Wow, I am impressed people are so hyped about one of my favourite games. BTW, do you know if the Uesugi get improved warrior nuns, and is this unit good in general?
Question: is there any difference in difficulty between very hard and legendary besides the fact that you can't save and can't order units when paused in legendary (I think those are the differences listed when selecting difficulty)?
Camera is also restricted in battles. Those are the battle difficulty differences. On the campaign the AI pays even less upkeep, you pay even more, they're more aggressive towards the player, things like that.
is it hard to pronounce japanese words? =__= maybe it's just cus im weeb and learning japanese but... you just need to get used to thing that it's not english and just pronounce it by syllables and NOT like you pronounce english sounds.. U-E-SU-GI - うえすぎ well im just lucky japanese is easy to pronounce for native russian speakers. many similar sounds.
It was mostly a joke, and also I really don't care that much. I'm not Japanese, you can't expect people who don't speak Japanese to know how to perfectly pronounce things. I say what sounds right to me, if that's not the way it's actually pronounced, too bad, everyone knows what I'm talking about.
I love how you try to make up a picture of a stereotypical ignorant American, who doesn't care about any other language then English and isn't even trying to pronounce words from foreign languages but fail to acknowledge the fact, that Donkey is Dutch and already not speaking in his native tongue (and also that through his campaigns there have been countless attempts to pronounce the name correctly, I think it's fair to say that he tried hard enough and can thereby now make this innocent joke)
i never really tried to make picture of some stereotype, just saw him pronoune it with english rules of pronounciation and it bugged me a bit, it doesn't really matter what his native language is. and as he always make this kinda things just decided to place here small tip, 1st read it by syllables and if interested just get used to simple stuff like how to pronounce A(あ) and other stuff that ends on A, like SA from Sado.
the problem with english native speaker who "butcher" japanese name mostly becoz english has different pronounciation "rules" than japanese.... if you wanna know what i'm talking about, go watch GradeAunderA video about "how english alphabet sucks" as long as he didn't speak japanese, give him some slack will ya...
+DDkiki Furolo On one hand: The second part of your comment seems like you want to share your knowledge of the language and, of course, that's cool. On the other hand: Why are you so goddamn butthurt about his pronunciation of Japanese words... (...while you yourself fail to even write correctly in English - the example with you misspelling several words and ignoring things like the capital I and/or capital letters in general at the beginning of a sentence actually works great in this context: I understand what you want to say though I noticed some minor mistakes, but because I read you're from Russia it doesn't bother me too much since I know you surely tried your best - noticed any parallels yet?)
Uesugi clan must build up their navy not for battle purposes but for transportation and should never venture far inland, also staying at the coast means securing ports for trade nodes with more clans :). So the best uesugi play is to not play by history and ignore takeda. There is a trick for ship allowing you to move your armies by insane distances by making them board another ship at the end of the other ships action pts :) Thumbs up for the road thing never thought of that xD combined with ship transport idea this might be worth another play through.
i think the ikko ikki should be priority 1, the monasteries needed to build your warrior monk armies can be helpful in killing the ikko religion, plus the fletcher and blacksmith the ikko have can help buff your monks late game
Late game. You hit the nail on the head there. Leave the Ikko Ikko to other forces such as the Takeda, Hattori and Oda. You don't need the blacksmith and fletcher until later in the game. Going west means you make things a lot more difficult for yourself, you're going to get far less income, and you're going to be going to war with far more clans than if you east. All for things you don't need until the later game.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP I'd rather rush south with 1 army and go southest with the other to secure the gold mine, blacksmith, crafts, 2 schools and warhorses early on. Hatakeyama rarely move out of their province, and the date and the mogami will fight each other for a lot of turns in those big provinces. After this going east with 1 army and holding against the oda with another makes most sense, let the ikko ikko fight the oda and other clans there if they're still alive, get a few vassals with the sevond army to defend against the ikko ikki. After that the game is pretty much set since your finances are taken care by many fertile lands and 2 gold mines. Uesugi probably get the best unit roster if you play a very offensive playstyle, so if you can reach this point you'll have a pretty smooth mid-late and late game as well. Tech proving grounds and master weaponsmoth on your warrior monks, so you can get the awesome marathon monks who are an excellent flanking unit, which can also quickly intercept and kill enemy cav charging at your bows or general.
Really looking forward to you playing the Uesugi on Legendary. I'm struggling so much even on Very Hard. The Takeda always show up in Echigo with atleast two full stack armies sooo fast.
I finally figured this out! I did the "single city" method in Echigo and waited until I had a sustainable Fortress. Then I wiped out a 4 stack army of Takeda plus Jinbos as they impaled themselves on my walls. Then I launched a counteroffensive and took all of Takeda's lands. Things are going great now and although I have battles on multiple fronts I am hanging tough with about 14 provinces! I'm on my way. :)
The last clans for me during my Oda campaign, i think it was probably otomo? Or shimazu. Idk i can't remember good since after that I started a hard campaign of oda this time
The worst thing about Uesugi is they have to wait for fairly long terms to get the best out of their monk warrior units, but Uesugi is the best faction in Shogon 2 either from the historical RPG or just gameplay standpoint.
Michael Kwan Not really: their position is awful and their bonuses are mediocre to say the least. Clans like the Oda, the Hojo, the Shimazu and the Chosokabe are way easier to play and way more powerful than the Uesugi.
The worst thing for me is their completely historically inaccurate warrior monk bonus. Keshin was probably one of the best generals. But he wasn't very ambitious.
Tokugawa is not hard, but it's basically just Oda lite. You end up taking Owari fast and breaking away from Imagawa, so after 5 turns it plays exactly like Oda without improved ashigaru.
You forgot to mention that while they share similarities to the ikko ikki in terms of warrior monk stats, the Uesugi have lower upkeep costs for theirs where is the Ikko Ikki don't. They only get the lower recruitment costs but their upkeep is the same as with other clans.
The best campaign I ever played was on Very Hard with the Uesugi. It was just a constant war with lots of factions on multiple fronts which made it a much more interesting campaign than all the others I played. Something else: I think the Uesugi are easily the best agressive army faction in the game (with the Date). Naginata warrior monks recruited in the right provinces and leveled up a little just have an insane damage output. They shred armies in seconds. 2-4 yari cav, 2-4 katana samurai and the rest warrior monks and bow monks is in my opinion the best campaign army possible.
Unit wise they're pretty similar, still plenty of differences in starting locations, traits, etc. I will be going over them once I've finished the vanilla Shogun 2 clans.
I have, but I won't. I just don't really like the Rise of the Samurai campaign, and while there's little unit variety in FotS, there is literally none in RotS.
Yeah man, keep making these videos plz. I know the game is old but many of us are still playing... I've been playing for years and just downloaded ROTS and FOTS a few days ago. I still want to beat the game with DarthMod before moving on to the DLC. This should hold me over till Bannerlords comes out lol.
Are you planning on doing a let's play for the Uesugi anytime soon? I know you've done it as a multiplayer game but with the date as a possible enemy it would change the flow of the game.
if you are playing as the uesugi for their warrior monks is it better to go for attack allowing them to kill quicker or armour making them last longer in battle and less vunerable to archers
I started my first game with them... my reign wasn’t long. But then I started my second game with them and I never found the warrior monks in the skill tree, so I was left to standard units. I held 5 provinces at most. Almost held off a huge siege of samurai. From what I can tell, I am great fucking strategist.
You will need Zen then the one that comes after it in the religious branch to unlock warrior monks. They're pretty late game, so learn to use yari wall with your yari ashigaru in order to stay alive and start expanding enough to get the warrior monks.
when i see your battle lines I get a lil cringe because I always either pour all my units to the middle or focus on a flank =\ or sometimes trick the ai on thinking I have a real battle line but one side of my army always have the superior units and my inferior units I always retreat back as the enemy threatens them :\ if I remember this was on a book or something its called somekind of formation but I used it before even knowing that (or maybe I did is just my memory sucks). Oh I do engage with my inferior units when the enemy starts focusing on my strong flank which at that point should be done with the enemies flank and at the end I have numerical superiority and tactical superiority since my lines at that point looks more like a crooked L shape where the enemy is kind of surrounded.
I want to know which has better warrior monks is it really the Uesugi or the Ikko Ikki I know they both have pretty good warrior monks but which one has the best you don't like the bane of nobunaga Oda existence cuz I know the warrior monks give him one heck of a hard time against the samurai and his ureashagaru?
I'm Shogun in 1583 as the Uesugi and my strategy is not to fight in too many fronts specially against Takeda and Ikko at the same time so I was able to keep the Ikko neutral while I took out the Takeda and from there I went after the Date and came back for the Oda once destroyed the Oda then everyone hated me and the Shogun declared war on me but by then I was way too strong and to keep my budget under control I used numbers instead of quality of troops, if you make your ashigaru strong with high experience they will hold their own specially defending on the walls so two units of high experience ashigaru can neutralize just about any one unit
Maybe I'm putting this comment on the wrong video but I would love to see a challenge where you only have to use monks. I guess you'd have to be allowed to use other units before you're even abel to recruit monks though....
Hnggghh, I get these comments soooo often, why do you all feel the need to sound smart? "Hmmmwellllll actuallllly, the map in the game is not entirely correct....". Go look at an actual map of Japan and then look at the in-game map, it's close enough that east and west are still accurate terms, and even if they weren't, even if they flipped the map upside down I'd still say the same exact thing, because why confuse people by using the real map as opposed to the one provided in the game, that's just stupidity.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP basically it was meant not to you but to them who have those duckling syndrome and will broke their mind looking on world map and this map)0
never use the forest HA its super super rare but the AI can and will travel through a forest it happened to me 2 times once as the date and onces as this clan it will hardly ever happen but i have seen it happen a few times
I did one for the Wood Elves, but the views were significantly smaller it's basically not worth investing my time in. It seems my subscribers are mostly just interested in Shogun 2.
It not quite accurate. See, Kenshin was not born a Uesugi, he was born Nagao Kagetora, member of the Nagao clan wo were vassals of the Uesugi. When he was 15 he usurped the Nagao clan leadership from his older brother, which is his age here. However, when the lord of the uesugi later came to him for help he would help only if the uesugi daimyo would adopt him as heir. The lord agreed, Kagetora became a Uesugi, quickly took over the whole clan and changed his name a few times until settling on Uesugi Kenshin. They just didnt want to represent all that mess in game so they just made him the Uesugi daimyo from the beginning.
I don't think the campaign is that hard, you can expand by winning against the first enemy you have and further you have the blacksmith and pottery that make you huge amount of money if you place the correct buildings and you can make the warrior monks units way better with better accuracy, armor and weapons
With enough practice nothing is hard, but that doesn't change the fact that out of the 12 clans in the game, the Uesugi have one of the hardest starts.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP from the clans I've played Oda is the hardest one, but in my the game itself is not that hard, not becouse of the campaign, but the battles, castles are hard to defend and attack the castles are even harder
I've played every clan on legendary difficulty multiple times, with challenges like Ninjas only, Cavalry Only, Siege Units Only, what have you, and in my opinion the Oda is one of the easiest campaigns because they have the 2 best units in the game that you can spam like crazy, Yari Ashigaru and Long Yari Ashigaru, they're cheap because of the Oda's traits so you can have loads of armies running around rampaging through Japan.
@@MrSmartDonkeyLP it maybe my luck with Oda, but the maximum number of army I had with Oda was two becouse buy early takeda for some reason declared war with four allies that surrounded all my provinces, so I had found myself in s defensive campaign and would happen again the next three times I've tried, that's why I think Oda is quite hard
Going west down the Hokuriku coast (aka the Dragon's Head strategy), while attractive in theory, is one of the worst ways to open as Uesugi, imo. It brings you in conflict with the Ikko-Ikki and the Hatakeyama, both will be long-term conflicts. It takes years to entirely subdue that region due to the religion penalty. While you're bogged down, you're open to whoever is coming out of Kansai and Takeda (assuming Takeda doesn't come for you early on). The thing with Uesugi is that you have to rely on luck sometimes. It could be anywhere from a manageable, one-conflict-at-a-time campaign to where you are gangbanged by a Hojo-Takeda-Imagawa unholy entente. I’d lump the Uesugi with Tokugawa and Hattori as the hardest factions to play, even though Uesugi is my favorite faction.
I never understood why this guy is so famous. All he ever did was getting his horse spooked and accidentally charged through Takeda line. Nobunaga's Battle of Okehazama, on the other hand, was something so legendary that one could mistaken its origin as Hollywood production.
well, apparently he's famous enough that there's a saying when people compare him as " Dragon of Echigo" while Takeda is " Tiger of Kai", and the rivalry between Takeda and Uguesi is the add on to make it more so. On the other hand, I think the reason while he's famous maybe because he's an odd ball in the Sengoku jidai era. His clan is one of the most powerful clans in the era, and yet he rarely expand his territory like any other daimyos unless it is the only solution. His enthusiasm to Buddhism make people think he stand for justice or something similar.
Only that it has yari ashigaru, practices buddhism, does not capture towns with ikko rebels, and has an even worse starting position. >B-but muh ikko ikki copy Sure...
If anything Ikko Ikki would be a copy of the Uesugi. Since the Ikko Ikki are a DLC clan whereas Uesugi were in the base game. Either way, as others pointed out, there's a lot of unit differences between the Ikko Ikki and Uesugi. Ikko Ikki get a lot of unique units no other clan has access too, and the the Uesugi have access to the regular Samurai and Ashigaru units that the Ikko Ikki do not.
I find he Uesugi easy actually. At the first parts of the game I already took Half of the Takeda who had 4 provinces, I made a trade request with the Ikko Ikki and I took Etchu and Hoto.
I finished recently a legendary campaign with Uesugi and ironically I found them the easiest clan I have played. I focused on Chi, beelining to chonindo. Echigo is a great choke point. On turn 4 or 5 it's possible to take Sado early on and it's a huge boost to your economy. Then, Date & Mogami are the next targets. Valuable provinces, fertile soil and resources. One trick is not building roads on Echigo. You don't have to give your enemies the advantage of reaching your capital quickly. Since the AI has to spend several turns to reach your capital you can use this to your advantage and with a general and 2-3 light cav units you can vassalize what it leaves behind undefended. Once Realm divide hits, the trade bonus income is your friend. Make vassals and enjoy having a good economy. The only part I missed is that I hadn't time to use Warrior Monks. I steamrolled the map with ashigaru armies and this is something I regret.
That's not even how you pronounce it. The right pronunciation is literally in the first second of the video. There's no "you" at the front, just "waysugi".
