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UFR #19 - Covering  

Upon Further Review
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Video covered: • #SaveTF2 #FixTF2 - Pos... - ‪@shounic‬
• TF2: Gaming's Most BOR... - ‪@RiverCiver‬
Featured guests: ‪@TheWhatShow‬ ‪@WeezyTF2‬ ‪@ShorK‬ ‪@DEWILL‬ ‪@RichterOvertime‬ ‪@ZestyJesus‬
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@dejorgik536
@dejorgik536 2 месяца назад
richter is like if zesty didnt know to behave lmao
@AshleysBrother
@AshleysBrother 2 месяца назад
basically his little brother
@damsen978
@damsen978 2 месяца назад
At least his avatar isn't for a coomer lol
@JohnSmith-hk1fz
@JohnSmith-hk1fz 2 месяца назад
@@damsen978 Isn’t your entire personality “anime bad”?
@highway_roadkill
@highway_roadkill 3 месяца назад
what Valve refers to as "treadmill work" the rest of the tech industry calls "routine maintenance"
@damsen978
@damsen978 2 месяца назад
Valve prefers to get rid of the root of the problem than a temporary solution. Still, they should rather do it *WHILE* still looking for a definite solution.
@ichiro.g
@ichiro.g 2 месяца назад
Which term is more euphemistic?
@smuwug
@smuwug 2 месяца назад
GabeN Strongly dislikes Running on treadmills
@Thomas-vn6cr
@Thomas-vn6cr 2 месяца назад
Insane, if any employee at any other company tried to avoid work using that sort of reasoning they'd be bollocked or fired.
@bashdzy
@bashdzy 2 месяца назад
Richter takes the podcast from a 2 to a 12 in like 3 mins
@mikonson4091
@mikonson4091 2 месяца назад
Shounic's "It would take a while" problem gave me a chuckle, because we've already been waiting for 6 and a half years for Valve to actually do something.
@ACEM1A1
@ACEM1A1 2 месяца назад
Can't believe i left before Richter joined the stream. He really walked into the stream, threw a live grenade, then just walked away
@LucidMakesVideos
@LucidMakesVideos 3 месяца назад
He clearly likes it!
@chippedtoothentertainment
@chippedtoothentertainment 2 месяца назад
Wood fired pizza? How's pizza gonna get a job now?
@rideorhitchhike3347
@rideorhitchhike3347 2 месяца назад
I want him to come back.
@AshleysBrother
@AshleysBrother 2 месяца назад
Zesty trying to not talk about food (challenge impossible)
@SealShpeeDaSweggy
@SealShpeeDaSweggy 2 месяца назад
i mean who doesn't like talking about food
@w0lfram
@w0lfram Месяц назад
man i love food analogys
@Walumancer
@Walumancer 2 месяца назад
Richter is the chaotic highlight of every stream he's on and I am always here for it.
@Timepickles
@Timepickles 2 месяца назад
​@@ConcreteLover5000 Richter owns you lil bro
@ConcreteLover5000
@ConcreteLover5000 2 месяца назад
@@Timepickles Richter has an exclusive, 24/7 never ending scheduling with my asshole. Pick an actually good content creator to be a simping white knight for 'lil bro'.
@WellMadeShelf
@WellMadeShelf 2 месяца назад
Richter brings absolutely nothing to the table every stream. Big disagree
@energeticyellow1637
@energeticyellow1637 2 месяца назад
​@@ConcreteLover5000 L
@d.i.ch.1501
@d.i.ch.1501 2 месяца назад
​@@WellMadeShelf, he adds to discussion.
@YaboiFoxTale
@YaboiFoxTale 3 месяца назад
@WeezyTF2! Don't let your lust for cosmetics and store items cloud your judgement! Don't worry about hampering a players' enjoyment! These bots gave been hampering everyone's enjoyment for years! This could be our last chance. We need to boycott them if for no other reason than just for the point of it- to show them we mean business! That's worth just as much as any petition is!
@kemmybelleuwu
@kemmybelleuwu 2 месяца назад
bro loves gambling more than saving the game and this is the person you trust to lead your movement? no wonder its a failure and just an annoying circle jerk of content creators who know the game wont be fixed but continue to live in delusion
@PlastiGomi
@PlastiGomi 2 месяца назад
if it wasn't for zesty and richter no one would watch
@SealShpeeDaSweggy
@SealShpeeDaSweggy 2 месяца назад
richter made this shit unwatchable, zesty is genuinely the only one i can bear listening to tbh, shork was silent for most of it, lucid just kept playing music which i find disrespectful and weezy gets up in arms if you mention boycotting
@PlastiGomi
@PlastiGomi 2 месяца назад
@@SealShpeeDaSweggy that's why I like richter he actually makes it fun, everything else is just small talk or silence and I'm pretty sure lucid knows full hand that he is not entertaining at all and has big names carry him
@gentlecat7735
@gentlecat7735 2 месяца назад
Can you stop playing music when people are talking. it's just annoying and disrespectful to your guests
@torchy9030
@torchy9030 2 месяца назад
Lucid burned the kitchen with this bit
@Mayb3n
@Mayb3n 3 месяца назад
this stream was such a pain to watch live 10/10
@Coolyo420
@Coolyo420 3 месяца назад
i was hard while watching
@bladonski
@bladonski 3 месяца назад
Crazy
@captainweekend5276
@captainweekend5276 2 месяца назад
Weezy is being immensely hypocritical by saying we shouldn't encourage a boycott too much because "false hope will damage community morale" when he's arguably done the most to contribute to that. He can say "it was just a 1% chance!" all he likes, but he presented everything to the contrary, suggesting that this would be TF2s Nostalrius. He seems to just be upset that his chickens have rightfully come home to roost, and now he's having to field ideas that he didn't want to before because his hasn't worked out.
@WeezyTF2
@WeezyTF2 2 месяца назад
Uh, what? I literally said in my original video that the chances of the petition working were 1%, equating it to unboxing an unusual. That's not false hope, that's setting expectations accordingly. Conversely, much of the talk surrounding a boycott is using VERY overly-optimistic language, giving the impression that the chances of success are much higher than they realistically are. I've qualified my statements carefully, others have not, that's my main concern here.
@captainweekend5276
@captainweekend5276 2 месяца назад
@@WeezyTF2 You're living in a glass house my friend. Watch your own video back and tell me you aren't also using overly-optimistic language giving the impression that the chances are much higher than they actually are. You saying the chances are less than 1% is just a disclaimer trying to cover your own ass like when commentary videos have a 1 second slide saying "don't harass the people this video is about". The tone of your videos has not been "this is probably not going to work but we should give it a shot anyway" it was "guys this is our shot to make a difference, don't listen to the naysayers we can do this!" The language around the boycott hasn't been any more inspiring of false hope than anything you've said about fixTF2 so far. But sure, keep pretending the only thing you've ever said that there was only a 1% chance despite hours of streams and videos to the contrary.
@WeezyTF2
@WeezyTF2 2 месяца назад
@@captainweekend5276 I literally say verbatim in the first video "And yeah, it probably wont work". Trying to inspire a community to rally around a 1% chance of success is not the same as claiming the odds are higher than proclaimed, which as I've stated multiple times, are incredibly low. If I'm ever in a discussion with other content creators, I'm not arguing the chances are higher than 1%, I'm arguing they're higher than 0. If one can't make a case for the former, any plan we set in motion is quite literally pointless. I've provided multiple examples of couching my language to keep peoples expectations in check, if you could provide a specific example of me saying our odds are good, or even implying such, that'd be great! If so, I'm happy to disavow it because that's never my intention. You say there are hours of videos/streams to the contrary, if that's the case, you should have zero issue finding just one statement. Please, just one specific example, not some vague shit like "vibes", thanks.
@captainweekend5276
@captainweekend5276 2 месяца назад
@@WeezyTF2 No, I'm not going to argue my case only within your specific requirements since it's clear what you're implying, it's a stupid game where anything I bring up you'll just claim is out of context, it's a waste of time for both of us. Honestly dude you need to chill out and not argue with every rando who's critical of you, you only add legitimacy to my argument in the eyes of others by trying to argue with it, it's not as if my comment had all that much influence in the first place since it's not as if I'm a TFtuber.
@onemorescout
@onemorescout 2 месяца назад
3:05:35 Richter turns this TF2 podcast into a Fox News debate and it's beautiful
@ringoreddo308
@ringoreddo308 2 месяца назад
This is how I see it: The official servers being shut down is not the worse outcome for the players because we have the community servers and Valve can't do what Epic did to Unreal Tournament(I think), and even if they did, the players would find a way to get back in. The actual worse outcome is for Valve to actually just ignore the payer's pleas and leave the game as is. Though, that's just going to make it so their new game gets destroyed as collateral. I don't want it to happen, but people are going to make sure to remind them of TF2 and CS2. As we've seen with the leaks, Valve is opening themselves to yet another DOA, now helped by their very visible neglect for prior games.
@theabsolutetrashman3708
@theabsolutetrashman3708 2 месяца назад
Or worse yet, if Valve shuts down TF2 for good, the item servers should follow suit, which won't make the game necessarily unplayable since we have community plugins to deal with that, but lots of people invested so much money into this game and all of the sudden their $$$ digits items just vanish for good, that won't be an easy pill to swallow for some
@damsen978
@damsen978 2 месяца назад
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 Not gonna happen, they'll never shut down the item server.
@theabsolutetrashman3708
@theabsolutetrashman3708 2 месяца назад
@@damsen978 Not anytime soon that's for sure but it will happen eventually, nothing lasts forever after all
@dialga236
@dialga236 23 дня назад
​@@theabsolutetrashman3708the only way the tf2 item servers go down is if valve as a company goes under
@NikolasN64
@NikolasN64 2 месяца назад
Hey this is my first video I’ve seen from you all, and my man why are you playing music over the guests at 2:13:50 ? That made it really difficult to understand and follow the conversation, even if like it was a joke or something. On top of being disrespectful. I read chat and it was apparently because they had that convo before, which I didn’t know, first time viewing. If you didn’t want them to just regurgitate what they’re saying, moderate the discussion… Just kind of made it hard to watch.
@RiverCiver
@RiverCiver 2 месяца назад
I'm willing to come onto one of these if you wanna discuss things further because your points against my video were incredibly strawmanned and braindead. They're not worth debunking in a comment or video so I'll come on if you want to reply with details. Or you could stay in your little circlejerk bubble like you always do it's up to you. Either way this was kinda embarrassing.
@G-Man____
@G-Man____ 2 месяца назад
I get you want to be as honest as possible and Insult people in your videos but surely you can show some manners and respect in your writing since a comment is not a video
@RiverCiver
@RiverCiver 2 месяца назад
@@G-Man____ they didn't. they also weren't able to debunk any of my points in their echo chamber but I'm not surprised
@G-Man____
@G-Man____ 2 месяца назад
No they did. But I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong if they let you join there stream. I hope they do so I can hear more of your welcomed criticisms. Also they aren’t your enemies I’m sure they will give you the respect and the time you need to talk about your points. especially when there talking about new people so don’t worry to much. One last thing commenters and people are not the same thing I’m sure you’ll get a new prospective from actually talking to these people I have a question is there any more criticisms you have for tf2 you did not put in your original video I would really love to know
@Nictheidoit
@Nictheidoit 2 месяца назад
Your video was peak
@yakovmarker4564
@yakovmarker4564 2 месяца назад
>circlejerk bubble 1/3 of the UFR guests initially were people whose videos they criticized and then asked to join/were invited. Lucid said numerous times that people are welcome to join the podcast if they want to discuss/defend their videos, unless the person is a total dick or a lunatic. Quite opposite of «circlejerk bubble».
@bacreeton
@bacreeton 2 месяца назад
Richter kicks ass man. Dude is genuinely funny and charming
@CheeseChurger
@CheeseChurger 3 месяца назад
Noticed the bias against zesty in this stream, you put the subway surfers gameplay and shitty gmod 2014 funny moments comp kevin mcleod music over the stream when him and weezy started their conversation. Then when weezy basically says the same shit on his own you leave it alone. Kind of fucked up if you ask me.
@shrgn
@shrgn 3 месяца назад
You just look into it way too deeply. I think he just made a bit around the fact that Zesty and Weezy had this same discussion for like the fourth time (?) in UFRs lifetime.
@rookie2128
@rookie2128 3 месяца назад
he took it down because people in chat told him to not because he favors weezy specifically
@CheeseChurger
@CheeseChurger 2 месяца назад
@@shrgn Probably true, i haven't watched every single episode of UFR so i don't know how much it's happened from the first fixtf2 episode to this one. Shit just felt kind of slimy to me when it happened
@LucidMakesVideos
@LucidMakesVideos 2 месяца назад
It's a running gag from past UFR episodes. Me and Zesty are homies :)
@CheeseChurger
@CheeseChurger 2 месяца назад
@@LucidMakesVideos good to hear
@dylanbksp
@dylanbksp 3 месяца назад
it's pretty frustrating that it took y'all 2 and a half hours to watch about 9 minutes of the shounic video while making points that he addresses later in the video
@nikodemsulowski9625
@nikodemsulowski9625 3 месяца назад
L + ratio
@RayLilith
@RayLilith 3 месяца назад
@@nikodemsulowski9625eat dirt
@FrancisL4D
@FrancisL4D 3 месяца назад
Use actual grammer like a normal human being🫵🤡​@@nikodemsulowski9625
@shrgn
@shrgn 3 месяца назад
Welcome to UFR
@puppy34875
@puppy34875 2 месяца назад
I can't believe they let Richter get to them like that Lmao
@sheenfromtf2
@sheenfromtf2 2 месяца назад
The podcast is good, but please dont add stock music to it. It distracts from what their saying, and since I've heard this music so much, it's kinda annoying. At least add music that isn't horribly overplayed. Really it's better with no music at all.
@blubullie4850
@blubullie4850 3 месяца назад
3:44:40 They haven't heard of Mischief? Just an FYI, he is a general content person who got popular off of the Elden Ring drama. He is younger than all of them, so I am not surprised they don't know of him.
@Linkman8912
@Linkman8912 2 месяца назад
Didn't he get some amount of popularity from getting bullied by quantumtv, and the act man covering it? He's really good.
@blubullie4850
@blubullie4850 2 месяца назад
@@Linkman8912 Yes he did. Quantum made himself look bad in the process. Mischief has had a few missteps, but he's still learning.
@Crocington
@Crocington 2 месяца назад
Zesty speaking a lot of facts weezy its so annoying that you backtrack you are the leading voice and you dont want to do what is needed to be done because it of a couple of bad comments and if you dont have faith in it then what are other people going to think
@bladonski
@bladonski 3 месяца назад
Leffen podcast with tech??? Awesome podcast this is it's got all my listening in the background while doing work interests in it this is great
@fio_lume
@fio_lume 2 месяца назад
Wait so let me process that... They just gotta update VAC to include modern cheats every few... weeks or months? Damn. And all they need to do is hire a person/team who actually WANTS to maintain the security of almost half a dozen in-house games? DAMN!
@kean4218
@kean4218 2 месяца назад
Im sorry the streams can be interesting but it could do without the minecraft parkour brainrot under the podcast
@4zy1
@4zy1 3 месяца назад
2:13:15 why'd you delete that message lmao
@FilthyTea
@FilthyTea 3 месяца назад
I thought “message retracted” meant that they deleted the message themselves and “message deleted” means a mod or the streamer deleted it? Could be wrong
@nequ16
@nequ16 3 месяца назад
what filthytea said, also the chat overlay here is just a cropped part of his screen, if he were to do something with chat you'd see his cursor highlighting the message and selecting the mute option or something
@rookie2128
@rookie2128 3 месяца назад
hello it is i the author of that message. I deleted it myself because it just didnt came off the way i wanted it to. felt like i worded it too agressively
@dani1999n
@dani1999n 2 месяца назад
"hungarian McDonald's tastes like food" i beg to differ
@amiiboking569
@amiiboking569 2 месяца назад
Turn the fucking music off
@nequ16
@nequ16 3 месяца назад
I was there when the moon happened
@fragniz
@fragniz 2 месяца назад
OK, so I paused around 2:30:00 in the middle of Weezy's rant, if anyone wants to know what I'm responding to. Anyway, I do NOT agree with him on this point. Not supporting a company you're boycotting for a specific IP from that company is fine, but if you want to ONLY cut support for that specific IP, then buying from other aspects of that company is fine because you're trying to tell them "I like what you're doing here, but this other thing is awful, and so I won't support it at all". For example, if I wanted to boycott Magic: the Gathering (a card game where third party sellers sell individual cards sometimes), I would stop buying boosters or secret lairs or special collector sets. I would ALSO stop buying single cards, because me buying those cards is encouraging the people who have them to buy more boosters to open more cards that they can sell. That being said, I would STILL buy products for Dungeons and Dragons (Wizards of the Coast makes both games), because my boycott is specifically against MTG, and not WotC as a whole. What I will say, though, is that if you ARE trying to boycott the whole company, then that changes things.
@KicksPregnantWomen
@KicksPregnantWomen 2 месяца назад
but what if people just boycott the one product and as a result just consume more of the other products from the same company?
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed 3 месяца назад
2:50:35 Eh, I wouldn't be able to get an early crate anyway. Been taken a full week from the start of them dropping for me to get a single one, for years now. I don't think Valve likes that I just put every crate and case I get as a drop onto the market. Okay, the Richter interlude felt a little unhinged?
@Thomas-vn6cr
@Thomas-vn6cr 2 месяца назад
I think Valve can either update their anticheat, perform overhauls on the games systems to properly update them, allowing greater ease of finding community servers, balance weapons, add new reasonable weapons, or eat shit. No hats, taunts, maps or gamemodes will mean anything to me.
@lazyxeno9404
@lazyxeno9404 2 месяца назад
Could you invite Aar
@Mitioritos
@Mitioritos 3 месяца назад
I love this podcast
@kyperactive
@kyperactive 2 месяца назад
This video is the definition of the problem with this movement lmao
@MajorZero61
@MajorZero61 2 месяца назад
2:44:57 Getting some real "Liara leaving the message for the future" vibes from this one.
@broktroll3035
@broktroll3035 2 месяца назад
wish richter was there for the whole time
@bullet3417
@bullet3417 2 месяца назад
2:11:37 why you turned on that goofy ahh music
@totenkopf8814
@totenkopf8814 2 месяца назад
3:55:09 cringe moment NGL 😬
@bingo54
@bingo54 3 месяца назад
yap session
@Linkman8912
@Linkman8912 2 месяца назад
Good way to describe the podcast lmao. Still a great listen!
@objectionablycurious
@objectionablycurious 2 месяца назад
that's normally how a podcast goes
@bingo54
@bingo54 2 месяца назад
@@objectionablycurious fr?😲
@xman9354
@xman9354 2 месяца назад
​@@objectionablycuriousnormally in a podcast with 7 people, 7 people talk instead of 3
@chippedtoothentertainment
@chippedtoothentertainment 2 месяца назад
2:11:43 VANOSSGAMING JOINING UFR!??!111111!!!!
@CoolSs
@CoolSs 3 месяца назад
more productive than i thought would bee. 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
@pol581
@pol581 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the vod upload!
@ryza7760
@ryza7760 2 месяца назад
valve employees when they smell like shit (they think showering and brushing their teeth is treadmill work)
@bananbananowy3552
@bananbananowy3552 2 месяца назад
I am all for FixTF2 and all but guys... Half or more of the live is just bullshit. Literally. Talking about nothing of importance. And this Richter guy is such a goddamn troll. And if I have something to suggest. Watch some of the videos you put on stream before hand since you were giving a platform for someone who doesn't deserve it.
@bashdzy
@bashdzy 2 месяца назад
I have to ask if you think this is such a waste of time then why do you keep coming back to this channel I mean you made several comments on this channel before and you keep mentioning that this is a big waste of time so why come back just leave go somewhere else That's The Logical answer here
@bananbananowy3552
@bananbananowy3552 2 месяца назад
@@bashdzy I made a comment once before this. I enjoy the funnies and silliness of the moment and I also care about TF2 and FixTF2 so I comeback here since this are the people leading it or so I might guess. I would like to ask of the creators to talk more indepth since even they are aware how much time is spent on talking random things.
@bashdzy
@bashdzy 2 месяца назад
@@bananbananowy3552 fair
@chippedtoothentertainment
@chippedtoothentertainment 2 месяца назад
who doesn't deserve to be here?
@kemmybelleuwu
@kemmybelleuwu 2 месяца назад
Fixtf2 wont do anything tf2 fans are too delusional to understand that valve does not care and wont do anything. They are so scared to move on or just accept their game wont be fixed and its so damn annoying. The entire fanbase just constantly circle jerks each other about how based and awesome it is and that most games are scummy and arent as good as tf2.. It's getting on my nerves.
@-AAA-147
@-AAA-147 2 месяца назад
3:31:40 ... hot
@finchat2382
@finchat2382 2 месяца назад
WAIT A MINUTE. I GOT AN IDEA. So, most bots are just afk item farm bots. So why not just make item drops not work on the tittle screen (and community servers maybe)so they will have to move to the original servers. So then its les work to make an anti cheat.
@buggerofallhell1153
@buggerofallhell1153 2 месяца назад
Merge the item drops with contracts and make them only completable in valve servers just that idlers just poof and the price of ref stops inflating
@tamaskasz986
@tamaskasz986 2 месяца назад
let him cook
@Linkman8912
@Linkman8912 2 месяца назад
Other than ref inflation, I think the main issue is the hackerbots, at least I generally see AFK bots that idle on the title screen as harmless.
@mjm5899
@mjm5899 2 месяца назад
​@@Linkman8912you are right but if we could just stop the metal inflation itd be nice. And also, a kick in the balls for the losers that whale the economy
@WillieDangerously
@WillieDangerously 2 месяца назад
Save your arguments for the good faith discussions. Bad faith actors don't care about TF2, they enjoy a bonfire regardless of the wood being used for it. I'm sure some are bot hosters, but you can't tell that from a glance that often so treat it any bad actor like any other troll and do not feed.
@KicksPregnantWomen
@KicksPregnantWomen 2 месяца назад
what is bad faith
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