UGLY Ford Lightning Harley Davidson 5.4L Supercharged V8 Engine Teardown 

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Just asking, how many guides and pumps will get a swap.

@@superdidly1 More than you can afford pal.

I think he knows someone with a timing chain fetish who will do him a deal.

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I had a 200 f150 5.4l, I liked it, not as much as my 2016 with the 2.7 eco.

Fantastic pity post, honestly one of the best I’ve read today….

Gets me every time 😂

When did the gag start? Next I noticed, he was saying “penetrator” weird and I was laughing.

@@nowiecoche You mean 𝗣𝗘𝗡𝗘𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗧𝗢𝗥 😆

😂 never have I ever

I collect and use water from a `barrel`.(soft or rain water). Best water besides deionized that you can use.

Dooohhh!

​@@darrellbobyk6363distilled......

I have never in my life been so broke that I ran straight water in a car. Coolant isn't expensive. Y'alls cheap AF.

Eric will buy one!😂

Just like my car dealer when I say "I'm not paying above sticker".

I expected him to say "Please don't email me because then I'll end up buying another car"

​@@PresidentSkroob12345 isn't that basically what he said? 🤔

Love the water pump skits!!! 😂😂😂

His dad jokes are fantastic. He is fantastic. Honestly, good clean humor is sometimes the best humor.

@@SteelOfLegend Love Eric's video's and agree his humor is spot on, he kinda reminds me of Adam Sandler...😆

Won't mention "unknown condition" well they drained the oil, they new it was FUCKED!

He should have said, straight after they told him it wasn't complete, that he wanted a refund.

@@Currawong He will do alright out of it because of the video, but anyone else should take that path with people like that.

I thought only the 4.6L engines shot out plugs. Guess Ford made that a special feature on most of their V8s.

​@@GeneCash but they will continue to screw customers over if not named! Companies don't improve unless they feel pain

sht oil doesnt last as long as good oil.. never exceeeeeeeeedd changes.. had a bronco, 82, on lpg from when i bought it 15 yrs ago,, 351c, running on 6, so fitted 302c heads, 12.1 comp.. changed oil rufly every 3 months regardless, 20/50 , never an issue, blew 2 ignotion coils, oil pump needed replacing.. reliable as a rock..scary fast for a 3t truck..

7-8k intervals are absolutely fine with good oil and a good filter unless your engine is known to roast its oil especially hard such as having a poorly-cooled turbo (I run 7k on my Volvo with its baby turbo)

​@@harrywalker968LPG burns ridiculously cleanly. I have seen service books from the ealry 1980s recommending oil changes every 500 hours/15,000 miles on LPG vehicles, and that was with poor quality early 1980s engine oil.

What breaks on the car? The suspension on 03+ is solid. Ball joints on -02 and axle seals and ?

Of course they don't break, it's like a 7.3 it doesn't make enough power to break itself. I personally don't like modular, it's all the performance of a v6 with all the consumption of a v8. They where designed from the learnings of the 427 cammer and should have been excellent modern powerhouse, ford engineered it for FWD layouts like GMs NorthStar, but unlike GM, ford completely banked on a fundamentally flawed engine. And even now ford is stuck with 5.0 because the modular architecture can't be made bigger without adding cylinders. It's not a good engine when you consider all the other engines available, and even the ones out going like the SBF series. If you want a good small displacement, economy v8 the best one was AMCs 4.7 powertech, ignoring Mopar quality issues, that's an excellent engine design. Simple things like shortening the chain lengths by having an intermediate chain made sure they never had timing issues (unlike the modular)

@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM they are stuck with a 5.0 but are mopping the floor on LS's...... Yeah the 4.6 was under powered, they need boost. I have no idea where you get the idea of it being engineered for FWD, there's literally only ONE fwd variant....... For how big the Panthers are, they achieve decent economy, wasn't uncommon to average 20-22..... v6 are inefficient and 💩! Modular engines are reliable workhorses, where they shine is torque. The biggest downfall of pre coyotes was the lack of aftermarket support. The LS is so popular for one reason, because they fucking fit!

​@@commonsenseisdeadin2024accurate. 5.4 peak torque is so much better than the GM v8s of that era.

@@krisverde you mean has more low end torque. "peak torque" isn't telling us much, more doesn't exactly mean better universally, low end torque is where trucks greatly benefit. Having more low end torque means that it produces usable torque longer before falling off. Horsepower and torque are 2 different things but made to scale the same (that's why at 5200rpm they cross, because there needs to be a constant to reference. Same as acceleration and speed, ones a force of pressure while the others a distance over time. More acceleration doesn't mean more speed. More torque doesn't tell us more horsepower (for instance, Diesel!)

Lols - man, I never seem to get away from you!

Man, you would've loved the dd13 I tore apart today!😂 At least this engine turns over

22-25 miles per hour? Isn't that kinda slow? 😁😁

Have you considered getting the FP700 kit? The warrantied supercharger that gives you 700 hp lol

You talked to 5 Ford mechanics and still bought a Ford? Why didn't you listen to any of them?

Ford ruined the 5.0 in 2017 by eliminating the steel cylinder liners and spraying the aluminum bores with their version of Nicasil. Now they are oil burning pigs that Ford is being sued over. It’s so widespread that one cylinder liner manufacturer is making a kit for the 5.0 to retrofit them with steel liners.

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yeah you should see their houses and wives!

For them it's just a tool to get from a-b. At most, it gets washed regularly to appear nice, but that's about it.

I'm certainly not one to live by the "money spent" aspect..... but good grief, those who do could think I do. There's are a few proper things one should follow with cars. Proper fluids in something built after the 80s being one of them

Many people have more money than brains. 🤷

They’ll just finance another $1k/month payment.

I had the displeasure of following a harley davidson motorcycle and every time he hit the gas , my eardrum got destroyed by the racket from his chrome air compressor 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not really...use good plugs and rarely occurs and a quality repair results in no damage ( other than the coil pack), sorry for your outcome

The orange in the combustion Chambers is from someone using lots of octane booster. If you use enough of it, it will start to short the plugs out and misfire under load. Ask me how I know 😅

@@iainball2023 I used octane booster one time in my boosted F150 because I detected some knock and didn’t trust the 93 pump gas I filled up with. Half a can turned the plugs orange. Never again. If I had cats you could imagine what it would do to them.

Didn't the Coyote slightly diminish the value of the Termis? I know they were holding their value when the S197 came out.

> Earl changes Lmfao 🤣

Agreed! Same with the orange residue on the plugs I believe

Yup, probably Boostane or Octanium. Using it now and then for hero runs on the dyno or track, that's fine. If you're running so much of it that your plugs are getting gunked up with the residue then you really should just make the mods necessary to run E85. The odd thing here is that I've no idea why anyone would need to run octane booster on a stock engine with no mods. And if you can afford all that octane booster, why would you skip oil changes?

PI heads started in 1999 for the 5.4, so you'd be correct on that assumption. As for the coolant crossover theory, I do concur with that as a possibility. I will say that the coolant crossover leak is a bigger problem with the naturally aspirated 5.4's that got plastic intake manifolds starting in 2000. Happened to me with my 01, but I was fortunate enough to catch it before it became big enough to dump coolant into the intake and/or spark plug wells. Replaced that manifold with an aluminum one off a 99 5.4.

was it a 10.. ok it is always a 10

I had a battery explode on me back ages ago when I wrenched. It sent parts of the case into my hands, arms and face, bathed me in acid and caused temporary deafness. I genuinely feel I would have had a serious eye injury from it but I was wearing a nice set of UVEX Astrospec 3000. I always wear my glasses.

Safety tote!

Send him the best one regardless. I think Eric will find use for it.

Eric did that out of respect for the water pump since it lived a neglected & abused life! 😂😂😂 Consider the water pump a "shelter" water pump! 😂😂😂

That Baby needed a car seat.

How much horsepower did you end up at before your 2.7 died? I like that engine.

I never had it on a dyno but if I had to guess I would say it added somewhere around 100 hp. It was a 100 octane tune in a 2016 2wd regular cab short bed F150. That little sucker hauled ass before it's early demise.

mate had a jag,4 door. wanted to fit a dodge 360, but no kits,,so took his eyes & brain out,, fitted an 010 block speed shop everything, chev.. 350 chunk.. some bisy body, dobed him in, so, 5 yrs later, re fitted the 6 cyl jag engine, drove to police for a check, . nothing wrong with it.. real alloy, not junk pig iron crap.. engines now are built to fail.. seems a waste of tech,,.

​@@harrywalker968 Are you ok?

​@@harrywalker968what?

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no.. useing water,, not coolant.. more owners a car gets,,the less maintenance..

​@@harrywalker968 The orange in the combustion chamber is not related to the orange in the coolant passages.

​@@AP3D Didn't these have an issue with a coolant crossover pipe & gasket that could end up leaking coolant into the intake and/or down into the spark plug wells? That would explain all that corrosion in the plug wells also...

He is so undersubscribed…once people find out about this channel he will one day hit a million I am sure!

My 03 went 393k on motorcraft semi synthetic every 5k miles. Still ran great but frame was gone.

My 03 Lightning has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. The only one I've had with comparable reliability was a 93 Civic DX with a 1.5L non-VTEC engine. I've had good luck with GEN3 SBC engines, but in 210K miles my Lightning through a P0125 code, that ended up being a bad thermostat, and had a noisy idler pulley bearing, but that's about it as far as issues it's caused me. When people ask, "how do I make my GEN2 Lightnings factory engine last a long time I say, "keep up with standard maintenance, stay with a stock pulley setup, be careful tightening the spark plugs." Not hard to do for anyone with decent mechanic skills. Tighten them down to where they won't back out, but don't wrench down on them. Quality oil is beneficial for any engine, not just Modulars. In fact I'd argue that good oil, that's kept clean with frequent oil changes is more important for a DOD equipped SBC than any other modern series of V8 engines I know of. Use an oil that's DEXOS approved BTW. I've found that all my Modular engine vehicles (99 GT, 03 Cobra, 03 Lightning) have been extremely reliable, with the worst issue being the composite manifold cracking at the thermostat housing on the 99 GT. When people say that 5.4L is unreliable I think oftentimes they base that on a stereotype or narrative. Yes the unusual bore and stroke could make you think unreliable, and the 3V engines gave them a bad reputation, but overall a 2V/4V 5.4L that's maintained properly is a very reliable engine. Hell my parents even own a 08 f150 with a 5.4L 3V with over 320K miles, and it runs smoother than my GEN3 Coyote truck. One thing the 3V's did do very well was they were very smooth and refined running engines, even compared to a modern Coyote. Too bad their cam phasers, and funky spark plugs gave them a bad reputation.

I think it is more common to see carbon build up in engines that aren't driven hard. An Italian tune up might have cleaned that out.

Went to Ranken in the 60's. Had a guy who's growth was stunted due to experimental medicine given him at birth. He was close to 5ft. All of his friends kidded him that when we worked on cars he was going to have problems. We were wrong. he use to sit on the inner fender and work on them. Today's cars, he'd have a real issue. As do people 6'6"! Atleast long arms are a plus!!

And now we have the junk Ford puts out. From the company who brought us the 302, 300, and the 2v modular engines which all could go a Rey long time with basic maintenance…to what we have today….ecoboosts and the 5.0 which they ruined with “special” coated cylinder liners staring in 2018. They really want these newer cars to die an early death.

@@hokie9910 I'd hardly call the 5.0L junk. I own a F-150 FX4 Supercab 5.0L so it's doesn't have the coated cylinder liner, but it has given me zero issues in the nearly 13 years and 105K miles I've driven it. It has WAY more power than any standard 5.4L that it replaced and it gets better fuel mileage than any 4.6L out there.

@@nathanmcdonald610 Like I said, the 5.0 before 2018 was a fine engine, but the ones after 2018…not so much.

I was going to ask the same question. We need to know.

Plus in this industry he is probably like me and loses more then he ever breaks.

I was just saying this to my wife. I've had mine for the better part of a decade and they've held up to so much abuse.

MTBE based octane booster does this. TORCO/VP do it. they arent cheap.

yes I see what you did there, still need blues help..blue the pry bar fan club

@@phoenixsmith6026 puns aside they do work well.

Do tell please?

​@@Tea_1745biggest problem is it says "Harley Davidson" all over it!

Very smart. DIY is why I prefer RWD cars and trucks.

One possibility I was thinking of is that the crankshaft flings more oil into one bank than the other. But given they rotate anti-clockwise when viewed from the front, I would have thought that more oil would go to the left hand bank than the right, rather than the other way around.

maybe you drive more right hand corners than left.. dont know,,keep asking.. same deck height, same head gasket, same tourque,.?..

@@harrywalker968 it wasn't a car I owned, and I was only 19 at the time ... but the image of that teardown sticks with me today. I still have a piston from that engine somewhere.

this guy lives in the rust belt Rain man i think Florida.big difference

Cancer

You're thinking of the 5.4 3v, which didn't come out in the F-150 until 2004. 5.4 2v's are known for shooting them into space if you either under or over torque them.

yeh, like me,,there sick of his banter.. now people are taking junkers to him,,cos he does too good a job.. south main auto good too..

Was gonna make the same comment. He wasn't even trying.

@@harrywalker968 yea.. I like southmain also.... i love his diogs....

Supercharged and turbocharged vehicles are the exception. I was wrong, stock gap is .042.