Re: The hit & run on the cyclist: This has brought about healthy debate and some differences of opinion. I have to say that that it seems to be the case with alot of dashcam clips that many people watch the same clip but see different things. Many have asked why did the cyclist ride up the inside of a car already indicating to turn left? Quite simply he did not see the car's indicators. The cammer spoke to the cyclist who stated this. If you watch the clip you can see the car only indicates as the cyclist's head is more or less level with the rear indicators. Unfortunately for the cyclist he continued to look straight ahead as he rode more or less level with the car. Now if the car had done a couple of things this incident could have been avoided. Firstly, he should have been indicating well before he moved off. As stated in the vid this is probably the busiest cycle lane in the city. The car driver should have been aware there was every chance of cyclists using the lane approaching the junction. Secondly, if they had used their rear and left wing mirrors they would have seen the cyclist and taken appropriate action. Under the updated the updated Highway Code, my understanding is that the car should have given way to the approaching cyclist if they saw him. Crucially, in my opinion at least, I feel the driver simple wasn't aware of the cyclist. Poor driving and observations of the driver's part. Not blaming the cyclist here but could he have done anything to have not been left hooked? I guess if he drove a bit more defensively and dropped back in anticipation of the car turning left, which would have allowed him to avoid the collision. There’s a saying along the lines of regarding all other road users as idiots, expect the unexpected and be prepared to do correct their mistakes.
The fact that "Many have asked why did the cyclist ride up the inside of a car already indicating to turn left?" shows that people do not pay attention. As you pointed out it's clear to see that the car did not indicate until the bike was almost level with him, nor did he do what he was supposed to do, check his mirrors ( mirror, signal, manoeuvre). These aren't new rules, (checking mirrors before turning) they've always been there, but have now been put in official writing (highway code) because motor vehicle drivers keep ignoring them. With the additions to keep cyclists, pedestrians etc even safer. It's really not rocket science.
Cyclists like everyone else have responsibility for their own safety. Likewise, motorcycles. Only this morning, I was stuck in traffic doing about 20mph on a busy road in both directions. The gap in the centre between the two lanes was well under a meter, and who do think squeezed between the moving cars at at least 25mph 🤭 drivers can't keep looking in all 3 mirrors at the same time and watch the car in front.
@@richardgiles2484 lol the driver flees the scene of an accident they caused, what excuse do you want to make for that? I’m sure the cyclist is at fault for that too.
What seems so unfair is that when a cyclist and a motorist collide, it’s only the cyclist that dies and never the motorist . I still can’t believe the government allows this to continue!
Me too, I make sure I’m in primary position if going straight on I wouldn’t use the cycle lane, only if I was turning left myself. That cyclists was in such a hurry in undertaking the car driver just about to turn, it was reducing speed at the junction was a clear signal yet cyclists continued to race in front
It's mostly ego cyclists who have accidents, they try to force their rights on pther road users. I've cycled for 20 years and have little sympathy for most cyclists. Most of them aren't commuting, just being a nuisance on public roads.
Why, why, why, did the cyclist in the first clip not hold back a little through the intersection. He couldn't see the signal. If he did know the car was turning, why proceed? Could you just wait a few seconds for the car to turn? I have a rule: I'm never beside someone in an intersection or a turn. This can't happen to you if you are never there in the first place.
I cycle on most of these roads in this video. You're clearly a good driver, I would say that I feel better watching your videos but tbh the shocking driving from others wipes that feeling out haha. Thanks for the videos I'll probably be in one soon nearly getting run over by a left hook
Stay safe cycling on the roads. The standard of driving of far many drivers is shocking. Sadly less than a week ago another pedestrian was killed on one of the roads shown in this vid. Driver was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. Another needless waste of life. www.manchesterworld.uk/news/wilbraham-road-crash-man-dies-knocked-down-manchester-4069997
My neck of the woods - driving standards here have definitely got worse over the last few years! As a cyclist though, I do also think my fellow riders could do with some lessons - the observations of the ones in this clip who didn't spot the cars indicating left leave a lot to be desired, regardless of whether or not they technically had right of way. I always ride defensively and pay attention - and I never undertake anyone indicating unless they are obviously going to let me pass.
I agree, even if a car isn't indicating, it could still turn left anyway. I try to cycle behind the car in front so I am visibly (from their point of vision) behind them. Sometimes the car following me dosen't like it though.
Sure, the car driver has an onus to check his nearside but similarly there is an onus on the cyclist to ride sensibly and understand the road ahead.. here he is closing on a car that was sitting on red and as the lights change he knows the car is about to move off so why ride at speed into the drivers blind spot? I’m not talking legal issues here, I’m talking self preservation. I’m a cyclist by the way.
@@keithcolman9868 I dont think he saw the car indicating at all. The driver only indicates when the cyclist reaches the back of the car. Cyclist appears to be looking only straight ahead and probably never saw the indicator to his right. Agree with you on the poor hazard perception by the cyclist.
the car only started indicating once the cyclist was almost alongside him. Im not for cyclists running up the inside of vehicles already indicating (especially trucks!!) but the guy on the bike was already there...car should have waited for him to pass.
I’m a cyclist and a car driver, this happens all the time, drivers don’t bother to indicate a left turn then notice a cyclist last minute and think it’s ok to then indicate and take the turn unfortunately straight on to the cyclist.
You referring to the clip with the smashed car sat in the middle of the junction? Not a solid white lane dude. You can see it isn't from the rear camera view. In fact if you pause the front facing camera too it clearly shows it's not a solid line.
The behavior of motorists at Zebra crossings is a good indicator of the human development index of a nation. The UK is still in the law of the jungle stage. I say still but it's actually getting worse.
5min 30secs Yeah. Nice sentiment. Driving as nice as that would've been good if it was 1956. But it's 2022, and everyone's a tw*t now. My journeys more important than yours, etc, etc.
@Road Safe GB Sorry. I do generalise a bit. But, yeah. The selfish brigade do seem to be out numbering us a tad. Even little things like allowing someone out of a jct that you know full well is pig to get out of can have the person behind you getting arsey. So sorry. Was I being nice to somebody??? So bloody sorry. Did I slow you down by 3.4 seconds? ......annnd rest 123🤣🤣🤣
Is that the pricks with the speed cameras saving lives I spend more times watching for them cowboys than I do to my driving.4am empty road you were 4 miles over the limit
I believe this is why Cyclist are getting Hit or having close calls in the UK because where they are riding not only its the curb but drivers blind spot...
Are you suggesting cyclists don't ride in the cyclelanes provided for them? The problem is that drivers don't recognise a cyclelane as a seperate lane and hence check for anything in it, before crossing it. I'm sure that if this driver had been crossing a bus lane or regular traffic lane, they would have checked their mirrors. The highway code requires drivers to check their blindspots when turning left. That doesn't mean looking in the mirror and deducing that there is an area that the mirror is blind too! It means moving your head to ensure you've seen into all areas. This may mean looking over your shoulder, if your mirrors ae inadequate. IMO this driver didn't check their nearside mirror and certainly didn't turn to look, as then they couldn't have possibly missed seeing the cyclist alongside them. .
@@southwirralcyclist1986 a car is perfectly allowed to turn at a junction, established in case law. the cyclist following the highway code should see the car, maintain a safe distance and not undertake at the junction. the cyclist fails to take any of the required actions.
@@seansean9675 As usual Sean Sean, you are ignoring the highway code rules. e.g. Rule 211. Do not turn at a junction if to do so would cause the cyclist going straight ahead to stop or swerve, just as you would do with a motor vehicle. Rule H3 You should not cut across cyclists, horse riders or horse drawn vehicles going ahead when you are turning into or out of a junction or changing direction or lane, just as you would not turn across the path of another motor vehicle.
The car in the first clip should have definitely stopped. However, the cyclist must have seen the indicator for a left turn. Same old story now that the morjorty of cyclists take NO responsibility for their own safety, especially since the new highway code changes came in so no sympathy for them
He was level when they started to indicate. You are the one that will kill people. If everyone in this country was on a bicycle, virtually no one would die, unlike the 1600 a year people with similar attitudes to you murder. You are the one that needs to take responsibility for that, not your victims. I bet you go around blaming women for wearing short skirts too.
First one highlights the problems with the changes to the high way code. Vehicles have blind spots, every vehicle driver knows this (or should) cyclists and pedestrians don’t know what the drivers can see so move into these blind spots and act surprised when they get hit, I drive a solid side van at work, no back side windows, cyclists still want to get into the blind spots (I fitted extra mirrors at my own cost but how many people driving hire works vans would do that? I’m the only one I know off at my job)
I personally would have stayed back, as I know full well that a great deal of drivers do not check their mirrors before turning and either don't indicate or indicate very late. However, to be clear, the driver hitting the cyclist had nothing to do with blind spots. That was a case of not looking in the mirror before turning.
@@edj4833 no excuse there as a car has windows, but I have had a mondeo estate beside the van and it not be visible in the mirrors (before I added the blind spots) it came down a slip road in the blind spot, kept pace in the new lane and I only found it when I started indicating (5 flashes before starting to move) and when I started to move over to leave at the next slip road the driver hit the horn. The whole car, invisible
@@1988dgs I def agree that vehicles do have blind spots and that cyclists should be aware of these, but I think sometimes "blind spot" is used as an excuse for not checking one's mirror. To be clear though, as a cyclist I would really advise against filtering on the left at any point a car can turn left, as many both don't look or don't indicate.
Some bad drivers here, but definitely several occasions where the danger was obvious but you did little to avoid it/slow down...but then you wouldn't have as many clips right? 🙃
Thanks for the comment. Any clips in paricular you are referring to apart from the one where I admitted I should have slowed down when the BMW pulled out from a side road?
It's getting to a point where cyclist think they've got all the priorities over motorist, alot of them don't obey the laws such as jumping red lights, not slowing down when cars are turning, going through pedestrians when they're crossing pedestrian crossings and most worst of all is they don't bloody use the cycle lanes which is built especially for them. I don't have no respect for them but, of course not every cyclists are like that.
Yet it has been proven beyond any doubt that road users break laws in identical percentages. The facts do not fit your ideology. However when you are breaking laws in a two ton metal box you are the one that needs to be aware of the damage you can cause, not other people. Grow up, pull on the big boy pants, and take some responsibility for your behaviour.
cyclist at fault in the first clip zebra crossing, pedestrian has to wait until the traffic has stopped. she has not entered onto the zebra crossing so the other car did not need to have stopped. green traffic light only means proceed if the way ahead is clear, it wasnt, so camera car at fault. cycle lane, broken line, so the moped can enter the cycle lane, should they have, no.
Car driver at fault in the first clip. Driver should have indicated earlier. I don't think the cyclist saw the car's indicators as the car only signalled as the cyclist pulled alongside it. Also driver should have been constantly using their mirrors and therefore would have been aware of the cyclist on the inside. A reminder what the Highway Code states: Rule H3: New priority for cyclists when cars are turning You should not cut across cyclists going ahead when you are turning into or out of a junction or changing direction or lane…….Do not turn at a junction if to do so would cause the cyclist straight ahead to stop or swerve. You should stop and wait for a safe gap in the flow of cyclists if necessary.
@@roadsafegb8740 cyclist at fault highway code rule Rule 74 Turning. When approaching a junction on the left, watch out for vehicles turning in front of you, out of or into the side road. If you intend to turn left, check first for other cyclists or motorcyclists before signalling. Do not ride on the inside of vehicles signalling or slowing down to turn left. reality of the highway code
I'm wondering if the car didn't even notice hitting the cyclist? They should have stopped cuz it might have been just deemed 50 50. The cyclist it at fault I would say. Where I live you aren't supposed to pass a car on the side towards the curb like that because of the danger of people turning. But the car is also supposed to turn from closer to the curb as well so both are at fault.
The driver is at fault, even more so with the recent changes to the Highway Code in the UK. The driver should have given way to the cyclist if he was aware of his presence. I suspect though that the driver wasn't aware there was a cyclist in the inside cycle lane.
@@roadsafegb8740 wow, thats honestly messed up. I feel like that law will just add to more cyclist crashes and injuries and possibly deaths. That's messed up.
@@Blahsheep The changes are designed to protect cyclists and pedestrians. We drive on the left in the UK so I should not take a left turn if it forces a cyclist to stop - "Rule H3: Do not turn at a junction if to do so would cause the cyclist straight ahead to stop or swerve. You should stop and wait for a safe gap in the flow of cyclists if necessary". Also if turning left I should stop to let pedestrians cross as per the new highway code.
@@Blahsheep there is a clearly marked cycle lane to their left. It's the same as turning from the outside lane then blaming the driver inside you when you hit them.
The bike is in a separate lane. The law has always been very clear - if you're making a manoeuvre which requires you to cross another lane, you need to make sure it's safe to do so, and give way to the people in that lane. It's really basic stuff. For some reason, some drivers think they can make a special exception if the other person happens to be a cyclist. How many times have I heard - "Well, you SAW ME INDICATING!!!"
The first one had the cyclist violating Rule 74 of the Highway Code: Cyclists,, motorcyclists & moped riders MUST NOT undertake on the nearside of any vehicle signalling a left turn. THE CYCLIST WAS IN THE WRONG on this one!!
Is the l last commenter the only sensible cyclist on the planet.what happened to common sense.what if cyclist started thinking about road safety and stay away from cars at junctions.just like cars stay away from buses and trucks at junctions and roundabouts.pedestrians have a shorter stopping distance than bikes and cars like wise bikes with cars and cars with trucks and trucks with trains . It is much easier for a lighter person/ vehicle to stop than it's is for the heavier .stay safe everyone.