UK TV 1971 Bootleg Report w. Peter Grant, Pink Floyd & Yoko Ono 

That Bootleg was legendary when I was in short pants but me and my mates had no idea how to get hold of bootlegs in the provinces. Now I have a few as curios more than anything.

Indeed. The situation has improved re. archive releases but I wish artists & record companies would create another channel if distributing music for the more hardcore fans that instead of only thinking in terms of mainstream releases.

Fuck Bootleggers, and the modern equivalent - illegal downloaders. How about the folks who make a living creating music come to your place of business each day and steal the products of your work?

The Oakland 75 bootlegs with the concert proto versions of the Animals LP.

I used to only like soundboard bootlegs but now I've gotten into sbd/ aud matrixes and sometimes pure audience tapes cause I realized I'm hearing the sound quality of venues and what people would have heard at the shows that way.

would not be lost, they would still hang on to it, a recording doesn’t disappear

My exact thoughts lol

jep

"Papher do da beephole" more

...and Sean has to buy dad's memorabilia off her, revolution indeed.

The narrator sounds like Eric Idle, too!

I agree. Even the mediocre ones often have that certain charme only a bootleg could capture, that sense of being in the middle of it & of hearing how it actually sounded.

@@spinalcrackerbox I prefer my very good Led Zeppelin audience recordings over the soundboard tapes. An audience recording isn't as sterile.

word.

That really depends on the band and bootlegger. I've heard some truly abysmal bootlegs of otherwise great bands. And I'm using the term 'abysmal' in an entirely inappropriate way, too

@@alanrogs3990 I mean it doesnt help that most of the soundboards we have from zeppelin are shit sounding.

That's the type of comment that I could have left. For me it was around that time as well, when I discovered bootlegs in a local communist book & record store. I bought the copy of Hot Wax they had for sale & I was blown away - "you mean we can listen to parts of all these past concerts we never had a chance to go to? I'm so in." These days two of my ext. HD are full of audience recordings, sdbds & radio broadcasts.

Nothing unintentional about it. They definitely know they're being funny.

And I love every bootleg recording of The Black Pudding much better than thr Orchestra version of Atom Heart Mother. Those entwined voices of Gilmour, Wright, and Waters is sublime in the snippet played here.

@@majwilsonlionthe amazing pudding

Only to those who deserved scaring!!! ;-)

yep 6-5 350 lbs

fatty

That's what I've been told.

but we would still listen to bootlegs. Also today nobody needs to buy bootlegs, they're all over the internet, which is, i think, a good thing. Nobody should make money with bootlegs.

They wanted you to see them live yourself maybe? And if you released music you would be pissed if someone else was making money off your hard work.

@@humanbutchery9412 or maybe I would be pleased and see it as advertising for my talent.

@@humanbutchery9412 I would think listening to a good boootleg of a concert performance would motivate one to make sure and see them on their next tour. So glad I was able to attend 3 Pink Floyd concerts before the break-up.

Don't forget bear share.

Yes I unfortunately got to know that Skeezer well he runs a shady imprint label associated with U.M.G. called Famous Records. He lives in Coral Springs Florida. A sheister from the word go . He held onto four of my masters for five years never properly promoted them . I was to do all the heavy lifting and he would have stolen any $$$ made . I had to pull a Peter Grant to get them back . What goes round gets taken down 😎💪🏼😎

No, it's not.

Yes it is.

No, it’s not Branson.

no defo not old beardy, just his store manager i suspect !

And they all sound the same.

TBH, I doubt this mattered to the record companies. Pink Floyd until very recently shut down auctions of PF vinyl bootlegs via the web sheriff. They never saw any value of having live recordings from 1970 - 77 circulate for the limited number of fans that enjoy them but neither did they record their own performances and release them themselves (The few performances on The Early Years box excepted).

@@spinalcrackerbox not just "shut down auctions",... they sue as well,....back to greed

you NAILED IT. Amen to that!

What do you mean inside a bag for no reason? He got her pregnant didn't he 😜

he was probably tripped out

That was just his bag baby!

Yoko introduced John to bagism. He used "bagism" lyrically in Give Peace A Chance. Yoko's performance art sometimes included being in a bag.

it's John's satirical take on prejudice and judgementalism. If we all lived in bags then maybe people wouldn't judge based on appearance anymore... or maybe we would all just judge each other because my bag is better than your bag.

Some hendrix bootlegs were pretty good quality ,some were appalling and very hard to .isten to ..

@@philipbrougham6360 I checked Hendrix's Copenhagen 9/3/70 Concert out . I think a few good sound engineers could use AI or something to fix that two hour show up for release on vinyl or streaming.

And it was HERE that the Punk Floyd heard their bootleg..

@@billcowie hahaah Brilliant!!

@@billcowie "well....not right here ...but just a little bit to the left of me..."

Stairway to heaven:The Song Remains the Same!! BABY!!! Awwwwww... Just give it to me, give it to me, give it to me....sugah......sugahhhh!!! Well I got some good news,listen!! One of the best PICK ME UPS IN A LIVE SONG...hands down..😁✌️🍻

I agree that once recordable media appeared, some buyers fell away but a core remained and vinyl boots hung on until the 90's. The biggest threat was always getting busted by the FBI/local law enforcement, which heated up in the late 70's.

Me or the bootleggers? ; )

For a live bootleg, it probably doesn't. But for the stolen masters that are then released with changed song titles on a bootleg released in a small country, that allows someone to buy the finished product at a reduced price, instead of the artists' official release at a higher price.

@@majwilsonlion I agree that in those circumstances where an official release has been pirated, but live concert material only serves to enhance an acts reputation. Led Zeppelin being a case in point.

A band now wouldn't make a nothing from streaming yet some RU-vidr would make a reaction video and make more money than the band. Because the RU-vidr has a monetized channel and the band don't because they are to busy making music 🤣

Rubber Dubber was the only outfit that did this & they did bootleg this show also: www.discogs.com/master/783711-Led-Zeppelin-Live-At-The-Los-Angeles-Forum-9-4-70 TMOQ's version was recorded the old fashioned way. www.discogs.com/release/2734183-Led-Zeppelin-Live-On-Blueberry-Hill

Did you miss a word or two by any chance?

The interview at abbey Road he started hurling during the interview and said i think i am going to be sick when he was smacked out i bet he was nodding out in the bag probably Yoko had a emergency bag and a sick bag for him.

True.

power to the people, right on!

a crackpot

A. That's because you didn't put your "bootleg ears" on. B. You failed to appreciate that this was the only way this performance was preserved, in most cases, so it's this bootleg recording or nothing. C. It simply hasn't been my experience. Plenty of radio/line recordings and studio outtakes among the many I've owned or heard.

I busted out laughing when Grant said that.

I assume you are you talking about bootleg vinyl or CD's offered for sale (the market has shrunk quite a bit in the last 20 years and the print runs are now only around 500 or so)? It depends when & how they were recorded, I would say & I have a "glass half full" perspective: A surprising number of them actually sound pretty good, if you're willing to adjust your standards down from commercially released Frankenstein'd live albums. They're a more honest presentation of what the concert actually sounded like (if an audience recording) & they're usually the only way to hear that particular show. Finally, a lot of bootlegs have been liberated via live music torrent sites, so there is no need to pay for them.

No

Yes,I agree with you.A distinction should be made between knock-off copies of legitimate releases (the correct term for which is 'pirated records') and actual bootleg releases which create records that would otherwise not exist and which do not affect sales of the legitimate releases.

Yes these are great points if you love an artist you want the live recordings as well as studio recordings which in not just albums but demo recording as well

They did???...live in pompeii is a masterpiece,,,although I whish they it was easier to get on record!!!

@@dyangordon6151 which group was that ??

@@dyangordon6151 pink Floyd??

illegal in the Civil sense