Ahh the old 'whataboutism' "They done this or that, so that means we can be f**kers too!' No, no it does not. The flaw in a whataboutism is you have to admit that the activity or event or topic is SO BAD, that you have to hunt for things equally as bad as a comparison.... you admitted Russia are wrong though... by using the whataboutism... you are in fact saying Russia are as bad as the US... cos here's a thing the US done... I agree Russians are thieves. Also what oil? Iraq sells its oil like any other oil producing nation... the US and others didn't steal any... they buy it yes, from Iraq, thats cos its for sale. Nobody STOLE any Iraqi oil... far as I know its still the same companies drilling that oil. So they didn't mention the US stealing Syrian or Iraqi oil, cos it only ever happened in your imagination, last I looked DW don't make shows about the fantasies in your head.
With one exeption of Saudi Arabia. Somehow this particular country's state of democracy and minorities' rights absolutely complies with US high standards.
@@glebarhangelsky4351That's because Saudi Arabia was smart to serve the greedy interests of the US so the US has no problem looking the other way when it comes to human rights
Russia is the wealthiest country in minerals. They already have lithium😂. Sure Ukrainian minerals will pay for the war but it's not why they are at war
It's Putin and his oligarchs greeds. It is never enough for him. And Putin wants to turn the clock back to Sovjet era as if that ever worked. In any case Putin ruined any cooperation between Russia and Ukraine for 2 generations minimum. The hate will live longer than he will.
This person changes their user ID after writing a comment... suspicious... Why Russian trolls comment negatively on every news video, which exploits known facts about Russia?
It is not a country, it is the oligarchs and elites in which some reside in the USA. The US government is just the tool to get control of the resources.
Lithium is...are you ready? Lithium is necessary for Nuclear Fusion. But War and people are dying in big numbers it's horrifying and again it's because Elites deceived the common people... But the same can happen in Europe and if someone thinks about Reason, an Idea 💡 not Antipod then when it starts it will be horrific, inhuman, humiliating... but soon everyone will be poor so maybe there will be no War just hunger...who knows
Ukraine has Europe's third largest shale gas reserves, at 1.2 trillion cubic meters. There are two potentially large shale gas fields. The Yuzivska gas field located in Donetsk Oblast and Kharkiv Oblast, and the Olesska gas field in Lviv Oblast and Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast
This is unverified information- nothing worth producing. There were many countries claiming exactly the same, but other than USA nowhere it materialized.
@@iorr98 smart people know how to work within the limits of damaging the environment. Careless people don't care either way. What does the US have to do with this conversation? If Russia wins these reserves, we all know that their laws benefit their oligarchs.
@@jeffmeyer9319 Russia won't touch these shale gas deposits with a 100 yards stick. They have plenty of conventional gas. Uneconomical stops many dreams.
@@maejohannsebastian7142 Well, the democracy too, also free market and globalism if countries are fair enough not invading others for their resources. But maybe globalism is not good anymore if some of these countries wants multi-polar world.
@@maejohannsebastian7142So you admit, that Russia isn't defending itself but instead leading an imperialist war to conquer resource rich territories. Thanks for clarifying.
@@izajahmed8863don't be nitpicky. They obviously mean the area of Ukraine. In a democratic and capitalistic driven Russia, Russia would create immense financial ties to both benefit from the resources and the international dependents of them. Russia could've just done the China style belt and road in Ukraine by binding them to contracts. That is of course if they really just want their resources, which if oil and gas is declining might be actually getting more likely because of the war 🥲
Is DW suggesting that Russia went after Ukraine for Lithium as USA went after Iraq for oil ? now 35 % of USA oil comes from Iraq DW need to remember that there was peace agreement signed by Ukraine and Russia in Istanbul in March 2022 and Mr Jonas Boris stop it that could save the Lithium 😂
Nobody is fighting over lithium. It is too common. There is lots of it in the ground. If the US wants to buy anything from an independent Ukraine it is Titanium. Russia has been selling it even with the war.
Russia already has practically limitless natural resources. They have basically everything on the periodic table buried under the ground in Siberia somewhere they just have to find it and dig it out. So why would they want/need more?
It's not that Russia needs the resources. It's Europe that needs the resources and thus Russia is in a position to exploit this need for political gain.
Um, and maybe primarily why the gas station of the world, AND their next door neighbor, is as well. They never did say what was so special about the operation did they?
@@ibrahimotieno7432 He emphasized that Ukraine "could be the richest country in all of Europe" due to these mineral resources. Graham argued that the United States "cannot afford" to allow Russia to win the conflict in Ukraine, as it would mean losing access to these valuable mineral assets. He suggested that if the US helps Ukraine now, "they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of," implying that these mineral resources could be used by Ukraine and the West.
🤧You guy's need to stop cutting out the people you interview, first of all it is rude, they take the time to answer and second when finally we get to the meat we never hear the answer from a proffesional!!!
DW wants to spin the narrative that Russia attacked Ukraine because of Lithium. Unfortunately the expert didn’t back this up. So they cut her off and moved to the next expert.
That's because the topic is hot. Look what is happening around the Serbian lithium political aspect. In Serbia, lithium has become a divisive topic. Citizens, environmental activists, and green political parties stand on one side. On the other stands a major company supported by Serbia’s ruling parties and certain political forces from within the EU. Polarisation between supporters and opponents of lithium extraction has made genuine debate impossible. The question of whether lithium mining is even needed - and under what conditions it might be acceptable - rarely figures.
@@youxkio exactly, thank for explaining so nicely! We are fighting against that lithium mine for years now. It will be complete ecological disaster for our country. Over the years protesters were beaten and one even killed when a guy rammed car full speed in protester group, but I'm pretty sure you don't hear reports about those things.
It's live television, they have to cut off. Usually they're invited to "to the point" or equivalent if answers were good/need more exploring, so would expect to see them or the topic handled then by others.
Great exposure of democracy for Ukraine fighters. Lithium, rare earth, resources under ukranian soil and not a single word about hundreds of thousands lives lost in the war for democracy (resources), thanks for the coming out.
The war is mostly about Sevastopol. Its Russia's only warm water port and its an amazing base to operate subs out of. NATO wants to take it, and Russia wants to keep it.
The west needs better, cheaper, and faster access to these deposits because the west can use these resources much more effectively than Russia could. Hence they must not fall into Russian hands. Russia is a massively corrupt country. It is tremendously rich in resources but comparatively little trickles down to the average person. Money is being squandered and stolen on a daily basis. One look at the standard of living of an average Russian citizen is all you need to understand their government don't care for their citizens. Hence gas and mineral resources must not fall to Russia.
I live in my own apartment, without a mortgage, I have 2 cars, 4 children and I don’t skimp on utilities, food, entertainment and go on vacation to the sea every summer) Almost everyone around me lives the same and even better)
Since the 1700s starting with Sweden, then Napoleon and France, than the funny mustache and Germany and all of Europe, and Today with the US, ALL have salivated over Russia's resources.
Russia has more resources then any other nation on earth. If Russia needs resources this bad why are they doing far beyond Europe? Oh right, communism and corruption
Lithium iis becoming far less valuable as many new sources are found worldwide, and lithium is being replaced by more efficient, energy dense, less toxic, and cheaper chemistries. Food (rich topsoil and water is far more secure resources.
More scarce than food or water is building-ready constructible sand. I've heard of more violence from sand mafias than I have with water mafias here in the present day
@@Deadassbruhfrfr Honestly not as much, since you can replicate a tree oodles of times and most rivers will give you a supply of clay in their watersheds. Clay isn't really destroyed materially by erosion, but riverwater definitely pummels out the pokey bits of building-grade sand grains
I doubt Economic Benefits were the Reason to Invade UA, its more blunt, Putin is very nostalgic about the "glory Days" of the Russian Empire. Same for Iraqi Freedom, it was not for Oil itself, it was to send a Message that the USA has not just the Hardwear to Invade a Contry but also the Will + dont even try to not trade Oil in $.
The west 3 years ago: "Its about freedom and democracy" And fast forward to today: Ukraine is led by an unelected dictator, and we're admitting the war is about resources.. 😂
Yes. He went into this with his biased narrative based on inadequate appraisal of selected and insufficient facts and she would not confirm his bias. Good on her for being realistic and sticking to her arguments.
These are things and only humans put value on these things. In nature, they do not have any inherent value to any other living being other than humans. If humans consume less, then there is no need for these resources and hence no need for war.
Indeed, and there is gas in the region as well :) There's many kremlin bots pointing out that Russia has more minerals, but that's beside the point, the Russian government just doesn't want others to have them. They want to keep as many foreign parties as possibles dependent on their raw materials.
The war is mostly about Sevastopol. Its Russia's only warm water port and its an amazing base to operate subs out of. NATO wants to take it, and Russia wants to keep it.
@shahkobat9481 Ukraine is a Titanium goldmine. The rest would mostly be 2nd sources to ensure China is not a single supplier. Not that the other minerals do not exist elsewhere. China has invested heavily in refining so even if metals are mined elsewhere many get refined in China.
Russia has enough in the Arctic to last until the 23rd century; and enough grain they can give it away for free. This war isn't about resources for Russia, it's about them avoiding becoming just another US slave. NATO wants the resources
@@cashcash5995Why would u blame the Russian plunder of resources thru annexation in the West? Which states in the Baltic or EU have been annexed to the West? PLS REPLY...
The war is mostly about Sevastopol. Its Russia's only warm water port and its an amazing base to operate subs out of. NATO wants to take it, and Russia wants to keep it.
As far as I remember my USSR school's geography course, agricultural assets of Ukraine are much more valuable then lithium. Especially considering world population growth and demand for food.
@manmanman2000 of course not. These armchair generals read one article from a biased source and claim to know everything about war and the conflict. They’d rather everyone else die.
US and EU really need cheap resources and they can pay pennies to Ukraine. Win - Win situation, Ukraine will be able to build their dreamland a pure mono-ethnic fascist republic 👌
Nicely they stopped her at lithium mine in Serbia. We are fighting hard to prevent that lithium mine from ever opening, it will be an ecological disaster for our small country. It will completely devastate 3 major river flows, we will lose major drinking water sources and big are of fertile ground for food production. So once again thanks for supporting europe, we are glad to help in your energy transition.
Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO. NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.
The Russian empire haven’t fought a war for resources & land since 18th century. It have so much land & resources, it sold Alaska & abandoned 14 nations that were under it’s yoke.
Russia is not after the lithium in Ukraine. Russia is trying to create a safety buffer zone between itself and NATO. The cost of the war in Ukraine is far higher than what Russia would have spent to buy or trade for lithium in the open market.
Is it because Lithium that NATO expanded to the Russian border since 1991. US Midan coup toppled Yanokovich in 2014 due to Lithium ? Tell this to Marines.
@@coltr7561 pay? they will take it via debt trapping. All the billions in arms sent by western nations will be recouped by outright taking these resources. DOnt fool yourself.
"...geologists say are likely underground..." Lol, now they are selling the narrative that Ukraine is resource prize. Siberia has ten folds more minerals and resources than the whole of the Ukraine. And those are proven deposits, not some "likely underground" some geologists suggest. 😅
Lithium is tested successfully in Cold Fusion and it will be the next fuel for so-called Free Energy. Red Wave took Europe and half of America, this is happening so fast it's horrifying how it's happening...
It is not, just like the riches of Afghanistan won't see the light of day for decades, no one in their right mind would invest in extraction in Ukraine with the prospect of being blown up at any given time.
Lithium is everywhere you don’t need Ukraine to get some, the whole process is bad for environment, uses lot’s of water and pollutes water table. It’s a trick, Germany doesn’t want to pollute their country so they sweet talk to Ukraine. Biggest most concentrated source of lithium in Europe is 1. Czech Republic 2. Portugal 3. Germany 4. Austria 5. Finland Get your own lithium Germany. 🤔👎
Perhaps one day you will all learn what it really means to be Russian. We have $75 trillion in USD in natural resources alone still unearthed. We have everything we need my friends 📈💰
Ordinary Russians have nothing to do with the immense resources. Russian oligarchs and elites profit the most. That's why they see Russia as a place for earning money. But, their kids live, study, own property in Switzerland, London, etc. Russian working class should study and own property in Russia, and continue working for the elites. Ordinary Russians should also hate the West and NATO, where the Russian elites actually live. Many Russian oligarchs manage their factories in Russia without ever leaving France or UK. Why should they soil their expensive shoes in the Eastern European mud !!!
The amount of people talking about American imperialism on Ukraine while compeltely ignoring that it is Russia that is invading the natural-resource rich area and destroying cities
The war is mostly about Sevastopol. Its Russia's only warm water port and its an amazing base to operate subs out of. NATO wants to take it, and Russia wants to keep it.
Russia only wanted neutrality in Ukraine. The US wanted military bases in Ukraine, wanted to sell its LNG at e exorbitant prices to the EU, wanted unrestricted access to Ukrainian mineral deposits and wanted to boost its weapons sales to the EU. Thats what this war is about.
I think it is more stopping Putin's butchery before he starts attacking further West. at least that's the most reasonable explanation that Sweden and Finland joined NATO other than realizing their neutrality would give them no more protection from Putin's attack than Ukraine's.
@@iam5085 i was referring to what actually told in the video. And i wasnt compare it to NATO. It was economic interest and EU is economic bloc. NATO is a defence bloc
This is a ridiculous line of thought. Russia doesn’t care about Lithium nor does Ukraine. Russia cares about Gas and Pipelines that run through Ukraine to Europe. PLENTY of Lithium exists in the US and Chile and Australia and other places. This was BAD reporting. Trying to make something out of Nothing. If this was about Natural Gas, then it makes way more sense. Controlling Ukraine like they can control Belarus is way more important than controlling the Gas. Do Better DW!
Why would Russia offerer a peace deal (Istanbul Talks) that would have preserved Ukraine territorial integrity one month into the war if its objective was to conquer land for resources?
Yes, Putin has always offered to honor the Budapest Memorandum if given total control of Ukraine resources, as he and his oligarchs need more wealth to steal as the did to the Russian people in the '90s.
Because they either assumed Ukraine would back down and become a puppet state, thus rendering their resources under Russian control. Ir they assumed it would be rejected based on its absurdity, and it would have given pretext for Russia to conquer the whole country.
Both Russia and the US have been imperial colonial settler states for centuries. Russia, a little longer. But after Lenin gave Ukraine independence and the Budapest Memorandum both the US and Putin lost the right to invade.
@@thetombaxter Where did you study history? Lenin did not give Ukraine independence, but took it away. Ukraine was independent. Lenin conquered it. And then Ukraine was much worse than now, but the Ukrainian lands were transferred to the Russian Socialist Federal Republic, explaining that Ukraine has too much fertile soil and should be shared with small, poor Russia.
@@OlesMenzer Ukrainian nationalism developed and, following the Russian Revolution in 1917, the short-lived Ukrainian People's Republic was formed. The Bolsheviks consolidated control over much of the former empire and established the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which became a constituent republic of the Soviet Union when it was formed in 1922. Ukraine became an original UN member post WWII. Crimea was transferred to Ukraine in 1956. Lenin opposed Russian chauvinism and had Ukrainians to be in control of Ukraine as long as they followed orders.
Of all the potential implications, Germany is worried about Lithium? It's inconceivable that Ukrainians nor Russians would be thinking about Lithium deposits in Eastern Ukraine right now. The front-line region is heavily mined, destroyed, displaced, and local industry/economy decimated. It will take decades to rebuild.
@@brianmatsika8628 nobody cares what Russia says because they deny everything other than that which makes them seem like a superpower they are not. A truly pathetic nation.
