Why should you not give drug addiction education beggars money? ❤❤ DUH! Ukraine is the drug addicted beggars ❤ I support Ukraine but freedom is paid for in blood. Love you and RU-vid 😊❤ BAH!
This guy talks nonsense Ukraine should not have to perform for our entertainment , especially as we didnt bother to arm ukraine well enough or soon enough . Operation cobra (the breakout) had air superiority ukraine does not.
@@tonupharry Right, as if the lack of air superiority was some choice on the part of Ukraine, where they have been asking for aircraft since the start. I suspect NATO forces wouldn't do much better without air superiority.
@@burnttoast111 NATO forces would not accept one month of the casualties Ukraine has taken each and every month without mass protests on the streets that make the Iraq war look like a small picnic.
Please don't force Ukraine to fight a political war on the battlefield. All decisions should be militarily based and not politically driven. People's lives are at stake.
"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops, My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone." -Eisenhower's other speech. D-DAY was never a guarantee.
The problem is we are not using air power or naval power. We are relying on someone else to do the fighting only on the ground. We are not committed to winning. In fact it appears that the West is committed to losing. The leadership of the West is morally bankrupt and deeply corrupted.
ANYONE successful will tell you when doing something goes wrong, KEEP DOING IT until it works out. Im SURE ukraine will eventually march thru that landmine field, after 100 human waves
One of the main problems is, that the west didn't give Ukaine the tools to make a breakthrough earlier - so Russia had enough time to dig in formidably.
If the west had not sat around having one meeting after another about what equipment to send to Ukraine and got on with it long before 2023 started then Ukraine would now be in a better position and the Russian's would not of had as much time to dig in and build defence positions. NATO need to move equipment fast into Ukraine NOW before the winter arrives enabling Ukraine to get on with things at a faster pace.
Every news network keeps asking "What's Ukraine's plan??" It's to keep everyone in the World asking "What's Ukraine's plan???" And It's working brilliantly. The Ukrainians think before they act, that's the difference between them and the Russians. Slava Ukraini 💙💛
Was that a Joke? Ukraine is sending youth into slaughterhouse . Hundreds of thoudands dead while achieving nothing. If plan is anihilation of the Ukraine nation its working
I was a Marine platoon commander in Vietnam 1968-69. The fighting there in some areas was as intense or more so than in the most intense parts of Ukraine. However there were other areas where the effort was more of counter-insurgency operations and the fighting was less intense. But, I've been in many firefights and each one has been a life and death struggle for both sides. There is no such thing as an insignificant firefight. Bullets are flying in every direction, RPG's firing at us, grenades, and in one case a brief hand-to-hand fight to take a tree line. A major problem in Vietnam from my perspective is that the US had a policy of rotating men home after a year in Vietnam and new men took their place. Our enemy had been fighting there for years and were seasoned veterans who knew the terrain much better that we did. We had the advantage of air superiority and excellent artillery support on one hand, but on the other we mostly had WW II and Korean War equipment. My only means of navigation was an out of date French 1:50,000 map and a standard military compass which were pretty much useless in the mountains, jungles, and elephant grass where visibility was limited to 5-10 feet. Resupply most of the time was limited to helicopters and problems with terrain, weather, and enemy threats meant regular resupplies were at times unreliable. Therefore ammunition was more important than food. During the year I was there, we had almost no vehicle support of any kind because of the terrain. After a year, I was physically and mentally exhausted when I returned to the US. I served two more years in Latin America supporting counter-insurgency operations of the host nation during a major civil war. I respect the courage and bravery of the Ukraine soldiers.
It would be hard for me in the UK to vote for politicians who don't want us to support Ukraine, there are hardly any. But if there were I wouldn't vote for them.
Ukraine falls then Moldova and Poland. Putin has stated his goal is to reconstitute the Russian Empire. He compares himself to Peter the Great. You pacifists need to review history and how Neville Chamberlain is remembered.
The 10th Operational Corps is a combined arms corps of the Ukrainian Ground Forces that oversees nine brigades from elements of several service branches of the AFU. The 10th OC has an estimated 20,000 to 30,000 troops, along with 200 tanks, 700 infantry fighting vehicles and armored trucks.[1] The 10th OC is one of at least two corps in the Ukrainian army, the other being the 9th Strategic Reserve Corps.[2] Unlike its other formations, it is a joint forces unit.
30000 troops doesnt sound like alot. Im no armyman but as I understand this push is to open an avenue where larger supporting forces can pour in. Donbas is huge. They cant allow themselves to be picked apart. I would think they would want to find the main enemy force and square off. They have to eliminate enemy capabilities. Hoping they do well.
@@angelo_giachetti "hoping they do well" yes more meat to feed your sense of vanity. How about we pressure NATO and the US into putting ukraine at the peace table. Russia has been open to negotiations for a year now.
@@mikemann2053 Flushing toilets? Nah, they are to busy getting off on resturants and churches getting wrecked. Those little putler bots get all excited at that.
Why did you allow such an out of touch person to be an armchair general to make disparaging comments about Ukraine's strategies? They did not 'allow' Russia to dig in; the West held back weapons and technology supply and mud added to their problems. Ukraine is defending all of Europe with the lives of their citizens and deserve more support with both improved weapons and more moral support and understanding.🙏
Trying to cross a minefield the size of Florida at a walking pace is tough to do without also tipping off the Russians they are coming. Please NATO, go all in with the equipment and planes and help these brave Ukrainians win this. A quicker victory will be cheaper than a slower one, if money is your motivation. It is going to cost most of us either way, but freedom is worth it.
It's not just money but the success of the Russian fear propaganda which after a year and a half has proven to be worthless. Ignore and move forward with what's needed to win. Fighters, helicopters, vehicles, tanks, missiles and ammo. All this foot dragging is benefiting Russia more than Ukraine. THIS is the Eastern European war NATO has been preparing for for decades. Now that it's here, where is the guts to win it? Apparently Ukraine as ALL the guts and it's being spilled needlessly.
Not gonna happen with our mostly useless, spineless and cowardly so-called 'leaders.' They are all terrified of Putin and of that word they all love to use: escalation. They've always got one eye on voter support polls and most Western voters don't have an appetite for NATO countries getting deeper involved.
It’s a shame they haven’t got the F16s now, that would be the end of the War as we know it, still, Ukraine will break the lines at some point, then the floodgates will open, Glory to the Heroes of Ukraine.
The US wants to continue to drag the war out/demilitarize Russia/deplete stocks/keep the sanctions crippling etc. F-16's early means the Russians are pushed back before they are 100% donesies/could rebuild and come back for another go.
The issue is that the F16's won't have that much of an impact unless NATO becomes willing to attack Russian air defense that are inside the Russian border. The F16's may give an air-to-air combat advantage - but not until Ukraine has control of the airspace. That was the key in the Middle East. The Iraqi air defense was basically nullified allowing the allied air forces to handle the Iraqi air force (which mostly fled to Iran) and then concentrate on tactical & strategic air strikes. Russian air defenses inside the Russian border will be the issue. And remember, F16's are not new technology. They are now 40+ years old. My dad was a flight test engineer on the F16 project. The fly-by-wire system was cutting edge in the late 70's. Even with the modern upgrades, they still are a 1970's based design.
@@dpelpal agreed, but Russia have adapted, and now use the helicopters at a 15km distance to strike Ukrainian tanks, I still believe Ukraine will break through, just a little longer with more casualties..
@@chr9s833 it’s precisely why they are needed now, the air to air combat, Russia have adapted and are using modified helicopters at distance, the F16s would level the playing field on that score, if not give Ukraine the edge.
Isn't it amazing that such senior military figures can make such fundamental factual mistakes both in military history and the current tactical situation. His strategic analysis I fundamentally agree with as how in the world do you expect an army to cut through prepared defensive positions at pace without overwhelming air abd artillery superiority.
The fact that you don't have long distance superiority means that you need to close fast. Think about this like this were a boxing match: Mike Tyson vs Tyson Fury. (You may substitute Rocky for Mike and Dolph for Fury. Or any similar matchup.) Mike needs to close and hit Fury as fast and hard as possible. A long slugging match at Fury's range will just decimate Mike without a chance at hitting back equally, due to being too short. So: The Ukrainians would need to accept some casualties to the ready ammunition of the Russians, press through a prechosen area and pedal to the metal force a hole. The USA lost tens of thousands of men during Operation Overlord. They died on some beaches til the Ns had no ammo for their machine guns anymore and only then could start to fight back. Some beaches were better, but some parts had losses of the first units of almost 100 percent. But even when the amphibious tanks were lost at sea and stuff went badly, they pressed on cause they knew they had to. Until the point that the Ukrainians stop diddling their thumbs and really push, I am not seeing an offensive.
Ukraine has already breached the first major Russian trench line in Zaporhizhia and is fighting toward Verbove. Once Verbove is liberated, there is a clear line to Tokmok. They can follow the trench line down into the highway and to Tokmok rolling up the Russian flank all the way down to it.
We’re you there? During war, people, government and journalists LIE! Even the videos you see on RU-vid. There’s no way to prove what the video claims. Videos of people saving puppies in the woods, staged, fake.
First putin screamed "Kyiv in THREE DAYYYYS!"....and now the russian army is getting mauled. I still can't believe russia has lost half the land they occupied this time last year🤣
Can we see any official Russian statements about three days, two weeks or four months? 🤣🤣🤣 Ukranians beleive in their own fakes 😅😅😅😅 P. S. Russia had Syrian operation for two and a half years. Syria is much smaller than Ukraine. So, no peace with Ukraine for years, pleaZe 😁
Big difference between Normandy and Ukraine, though, is the non-existent air cover for attacking Ukrainian forces, which is contrary to the most elementary of modern war principals. An analogy would be a cage match between a 300 pound giant and a 160 pounder with one hand tied behind the back.
I think I'm more accurate assessment would be that they've done enough prep and where they decided it was time to move forward. They've been clearing paths and degrading Russians artillery and supply for lass 8 weeks
Russia was in Afghanistan for 10 years. If the West wants Ukraine to push Russia out faster, we need to give Ukraine more of what it needs -- especially f-16s, attack helicopters, and long range missiles.
think its too late should have done all that in 2014 or atleast day 1. ruskis already learned from their mistakes. and have lot of ukranian spy/sypothisers in high command. also not following combined arms docterine.
Everything crossed that the Ukrainian forces successfully break through. However Ref historical accuracy - The Falaise gap was NOT the breach made in the Wehrmacht lines by the Allies!! (geez guys get your history right!!! ) the Falaise gap was the space though which the remnants of the Wehrmacht escaped encirclement by the allies having suffered horrific casualties.
You would even pray....but you will not do anything usefull to help. You christians are disgusting. Useless. Always counting on others to get things done. Prove me wrong.
Ukraine didn't ignore Russia when they were building their extensive defensive network along the Zaporizhia front. They were limited as to how they could respond due to a lack of heavy weapons and their (ongoing) lack of air support. Which is why all MBTs, IVFs, APCs etc that only arrived this spring should have been sent a year ago. And why they need to be sent fighter and ground attack aircraft NOW.
The Falaise Gap in 1944 was not a weak spot through which the Allies were able to break through. It was an avenue of escape for the Germans when the Allies failed to complete an envelopment.
The fighting is getting very intense, internet war-bloggers haven't shown the UAF 10th Corps in action yet. No sign on the Rabotova front/bridgehead. Does the Times acually 'do' maps at the village level and drone videos ??
Times Radio is absolutely the worst for delusional propaganda. I stop by for the laughs. 😂 Times Radio make CNN look like a pro-Russian network broadcasting out of the Kremlin. 🙃
They eliminated almost 100,000 Russians in bakhmut so it definitely wasn't a mistake. The mistake is that the west is making them fight with one hand tied behind their back. I don't see where they have any right to be critical of how Ukraine is conducting their counter offensive
Can't you christians actually for once do something, instead of showelling your useless " make yourself feel good " prayers into the face of people who actually try to do something.
Ukraine will stand proud beautiful and strong once again. Slava Ukraini now and forever. Heroyam Slava. ❤️🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦❤️🇨🇾❤️🇪🇺❤️🇬🇷❤️. All my love and prayers are with you everyday.
what kind of "supreme"effort could it be if they have not been given sufficient weapons? the world is waiting with bated breath to see a bloodbath and relishing each Ukrainian misstep. sickening.
@@Dude0000 When Ukraine crushed russia in Kharkiv and Kherson, I think they stood up! Big time! Now russia has lost half the land they occupied this time last year🤭
In the last two months, Ukraine has now retaken nearly _seven times_ the land russia did in one year of fighting in Bakhmut😂 And Ukraine hasn't even really started their counteroffensive!
@@Dude0000dpelpal writes nonsense across numerous comment sections! When the BlackRock Zelenskiy regime folds dpelpal will still be writing the same nonsense 😂
Nato thought that - not Ukraine (we here in NATO created that hype, not Ukraine). Armchair generals.... I am ashamed of what our collective West has put Ukrainians in (if theose opinions expressed are fact based..). Slava Ukraine!!!
If Leopards and other tanks had been given much earlier, Russia would not have had time to build so many defenses. Schroder really messed up early. Glad he came around.
I agree 100%.👍👍Furthermore, according to some very experienced NATO commanders (e.g. Lt. Gen. [ret.] Ben Hodges (U.S.A.), Gen. [ret.] Phillip Breedlove (U.S.A.), and others..), if Pres. Biden & the Biden administration had decided to provide sufficient quantities of F-16s and ATACMS to the AFU earlier in the year, the war would be as good as over by the end of 2023.🤔Evidently the U.S.A. wants to ensure that Russia does not win, but does not want to enable Ukraine to defeat Russia & liberate 100% of Ukraine's sovereign lands! 😡
This guest seems to be misinformed. APCs were never designed to do frontal attacks. They are designed to be battle taxis that bring troops up from staging areas, who then dismount to make an attack.
The biggest pain of this attempt at a sustained and progressing offensive is doing it without air support. Otherwise it would go MUCH MUCH faster with less loss of Ukraine life.
Lack of air support from the west countries who are dragging their feet in solving the lack of air support AND complaining about the progress at the same time. Hypocrites!!
2/2Every day of the Ukrainian offensive without the normal air support results in hundreds of needless deaths, maimed and disabled soldiers and civilians -- on both sides -- quickly adding to a monthly toll of thousands. Putin is comfortably distanced by a fevered mind; Washington is comfortably distanced by an ocean of water. Meanwhile men, women an children die early or are deformed for life. Immediate air support, jet fighters, would bring a swift end to this insanity.
They should have been supplied with many fighters and even a dozen or so of the warthogs from the USA . That and some mine clearing armored auto's to clear the mines
Ukraine has been supplied with mine clearing tanks and engineering vehicles. Expect to see them deployed the once they discover a break out point in the Russian lines of defence.
The Mine sweepers are getting hit by the mines themselves. They Learned that real quick when the lost of bunch of Bradley’s and Leopards and 2 of the 4 special minesweepers they got from Finland. The Russians have layered the mines so if one goes off there three or four others in that same spot that go off
I am quite sure that Mr. Shea chose the Battle for Normandy in 1944 for a comparison, due to it being familiar to most Brits, and also being a good general match for the topic. However, with all due respect to Mr. Shea, I'd like to make a few detailed points for those who may not be totally familiar with the events being compared. IMHO, there are two major differences between the present situation for the Ukrainians & that of the western allies in the aftermath of the D-Day landings (i.e. June to August 1944). They are as follows: (a) the Ukrainians do not have air superiority as the western allies did in 1944...not even local air superiority. Those who have learned their history will know that the air superiority of the western Allies was decisive in virtually every offensive operation conducted during the breakout from the Normandy beachhead, through to the annihilation of the Germany 7th Army in the Falaise Pocket. Even later on the western front, during the Battle of the Bulge, the ill-prepared western allies were able to hold on against a powerful Germany offensive, then counter-attack & restore all lost territory, in-part due to improved weather which enabled the use of the western allies' overwhelming tactical air superiority. (b) the Ukrainians do not have the weapons systems/munitions to strike deep behind enemy lines to sufficiently to significantly degrade/destroy Russian logistics, command & control, storage of ammo/fuel/food/equipment, air bases & naval bases, air defences, artillery/missile batteries, and concentrations of reserve units. In contrast, the western allies in 1944 had degraded the Luftwaffe enough that British, Canadian & U.S. bombers could carry out, at will, highly impactful bombing of German manufacturing, logistics, ammo/fuel dumps, and more. It should be noted that air superiority and significant degrading of enemy assets deep behind their lines are two pre-requisites which have always been part of NATO offensive doctrine. IMHO, if the U.S.A. had made a commitment to Ukraine winning the war (versus not losing the war), and had, in timely fashion, provided F-16s (for local air superiority) and ATACMS (to destroy Russian assets deep behind the lines, everywhere in Crimea..), then the comparison would be much more reasonable.
Totally agree, and our Western spineless weak so-called 'leaders' forcing Ukraine to agree not to target the source of ruSSian missile and artillery attacks on Ukrainian territory with the weapons they send is like asking a boxer to enter the ring with one hand tied behind his back.
Old Stodgy: If Ukraine can't make significant advances before any western air support shows up, we will have to rethink why they didn't live up to our expectations. Dude. I'm reminded of a UAF soldier who said, "Why don't you come here and show us how it is done then."
Well, the Ukranians had to wait because of the long delays before the West gave Ukraine tanks and IFV's. Right now, the West has to ramp up production of artillery rounds. If we are serious about Ukraine winning, we in the West really have to step up. The Ukranians are basically fighting the war FOR us.
“We in the west have to really step up”? A generalised ground war in Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the generalised ground war in Europe called the First World War 1914? THAT sort of “step up”. You do not, I take it, actually live in Europe. Look, this is a local war over ethnicity, sovereignty and territory between two countries in Eastern Europe. It will, would have…fizzled out by itself. If world war 3 is the alternative strategy I say let it fizzle.
The Ukrainian nation has endured many horrors inflicted upon them by Putin and Russia. They deserve MORE than our respect….they deserve the weapons to fight for their freedom. Slava Ukraine.
Let us hope that Ukraine's military planners have not been unhelpfully rushed into moving before the time is right. The media in the West has been unwisely pushing for action for many weeks now. Ukraine's strategists have repeatedly surprised Western observers with the effectiveness of their approach, out-maneuvering Putin's forces over and over.
Tip toe through what's missing: in Normandy, late July, 1944 after more than a month's bloody combat and not much progress, less than 40 miles off the beaches, and more than 100,000 casualities, the Allies decided to use massively focused air power on narrow fronts of the German lines (which were not as deep or dense as the current Russian ones, being more designed around the hedgegrows and village strong points). Operation Cobra on the American front saw 3,000 heavy bombers drop their loads on less than 3 miles width of german lines; it worked, but it wasn't a cake walk, the Germans still mounted weaker resistance...but it got American armor through the gap and on the way to go both West and East in a hurry. I guess Ukrainian lives aren't worth the risks of such air power which might upset Mr. Putin, who still calls the shots in this war. Still, I hope the Ukrainian troops can pull off a miracle and somehow breach these 20 km deep Russian lines.
Nope. The German troops in the area were relatively weak (recruits and casualties from the Eastern front on recuperative holidays). The Allies got through when their ready ammunition was used up and they got no resupply cause the focus of the OKW was still on Calais. Your fantastic bombing campaign killed a US General and a single German division (Panzer Lehr = Tank Teaching unit). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cobra Even with the limited resupply via the artificial harbors the US logistics situation was far superior than the German defenders situation. Therefore, after fierce fighting, the US troops prevailed.
@@donaldduck830 Nope to you as well. My source is the book "Six Armies in Normandy" by John Keegan, 1982. If the German troops were as second rate as you suggest, why was there so little progress breaking out of the Normandy peninsula? And why go to the fantastic effort to mass so many bombers (with the mission duplicated by British air power in another comparable effort in a different sector of the front? And still they did not waltz through. I'll take Keegan over Wikipedia in these matters.
Admire their courage with no real air cover. Pity they didn’t get better air power sooner, I’m sure a few of those A10’s the US doesn’t need would help but would need some pretty big cahoonas in this theatre
Rather than using tank support - which is vulnerable to all kinds of missiles or drones, the Ukrainians seem to be just using infantry advancing along the wind-breaks and clearing the Russian trenches and fox-holes hidden within them. These tree-lines are also good for concealing the Ukrainian soldiers from drone attack. The Russians have mined the open fields - expecting dozens of tanks coming over them - Battle of the Bulge style. It may be a slow process but with long range missile attack and excessive use of drones these tactics should be successful in the long run.
He should have chosen his words better. Saying "go for broke" paints a negative picture of whats going on just like when people talk about the time being taken to get this done.
