Ukraine looking to close military conscription loopholes | BBC News 

Boris is training at McDonald's

@@andtri716Rishi’s at the curry house.😂

Yes zelensky visit them every week to check how much they did progress in the training of making burger and kari

@@rupertjpbbseball

Is that the new joke from the Kremlin department of propaganda? How many potatoes did you get as a bonus?

Espesially aftet they got the new meat grinder boiler (General)

vic nuland... I mean Satan smiles!!!!

war is where politicians make political legacies, generals get their medals, and businessmen their money all while men leave their families to grieve forever

They're obiviously being forced to sign up and be sent on the frontline. Who in their right mind from the Ukrainian side would be fighting in a losing war?

appears they are recruiting women to dispense horizontal refreshment though if captured by russians their duties will be greasing knobs and waxing shafts in many positions

mmh i think you are describing Moskov situation.. ah no rich russian kids are in West enjoying the good life 😅

Well, they support the war. And voted for zelensky. So not sure what are they complaining about? It's a lesson! When the world literally spoke about his regime in ukriane it was mocked and they call it "heroism"! Well, now you know!

@stopinjustice7826 but what about the ones who didn't vote zelensky what about the poor being sent with a rusted ak against tanks, drones,mines the rich fled and the poor bites it

@pieroo7 the injustice happens both sides in Ukraine more cause the population is smaller

​​​​@@user-wq5rh9cn4e the refugees fled to my country and my friend is the manager of a hotel they are residing in and he mentioned that they all support zelensky and his war. None spoke against him and all were proud of what's happening for 3 years. And majority of these people are just awful in terms of respect, gratitude, and are basically ignorant! So nothing was expected! But the terrible part is that millions and billions all around the world are also suffering this war!! It's just ridiculous!

No! Those guys need to defend their land from intruders

⁠@@eliasseun6886 it’s like people in slavery needed to feed their “land”(owners), otherwise the then economy could collapse (owners said)

​@@eliasseun6886forcing 60 years old man to front line 😂😂😂😂

@@eliasseun6886i guarantee you don’t even live in Ukraine and are spouting this

@@siphofunnykhosa9871 That is called patriotism.

The same as every war ever fought...the poor fight while the rich, who usually start the wars, stay home and make money off the war.

@@glamdring0007 A striking example is Netanyahu's son, who stays calm in the USA in Miami and thus avoids being recruited.

They don't even know what real journalism is anymore, it's just paid propaganda. And those few true journalists who have the courage to want to listen to the other bell also risk being sanctioned.

sneaky, thank you for your account of the truth, at least someone is observant.

All of the MSM, they're a bunch of liers

You need to mention it on the news night bbc clip so people aren't fooled thinking Ukrainian men dressed nicely wanting to fight ....

Well spotted comrade!

On leave.😂😂😂

You know.

I think they all fled to other Countries.

They identify as non binary

Their running the country.

How so?

​@@Evondyr The rich never send their own children.

@@Evondyrforcing 60 year olds to die on the battlefield as canon fodder is sick

@@JohnWall-lj1mx forcing 20 years old to die on the battlefield as cannon fodder is not sick?

@@wokeaf1337 20 years old can still run, see, hear and actually use a gun without dying of exhaustion a couple weeks in.

We’re all gods soldiers. Blind to how they’ve been turned against eachother 👹

that made 0 sense, but it sounded cool, i guess...

@@jamesc8709I think they mean that for a soldier to be effective they need to have chosen to be a soldier. Reluctant soldiers can be a hinderance.

No. This called negative selection in nature.

​@@jamesc8709 If you got to choose a side which would you the one that uses conscripts or the one that uses professional soldiers?

Exactly, this is disgusting and shouldnt happen at all nowadays, no matter who you support.

Support? Free Will? Getting invaded by a ruthless maniac taking over your country is not a choice.

​@@utubes720like in Gaza?

@@Liboch Keep that in the “Middle East” section of the internet. We are discussing Ukraine and the Eastern European theater.

@@utubes720 I was just asking about the similarity.. Any difference?

Yes. But the quality were the volunteers. The youngest and oldest were prepared to fight with no weapons, just broom handles and tennis balls. (It was in a TV documentary I saw called Dad's Army)

Absolutely. Although so many tried to volunteer they were actually told to wait for their conscription papers. So you may want to check the figures. Dad's Army bless them. Home Guard. Other older men in the Pioneer Corps. All voluntary.

Those MPs need to be in the Frontline.

Territory of russia biggest then rich and from this where lendleas full re-equipment army of Ukraine m16 or sa80 riffle for ordinarily soldier like in Afghanistan with f16 airforce and helicopter Apachi In Ukraine from10-20million without weapon in russia biggest territory on the planet have all for slovly exterminate populations and then occupated more territy. Need establish peace and accept Ukraine in NATO without Ukrainian territory under control of russia. BECOUSE Ukraine don't have resources for return under control them and people in Ukraine don't want be slave of war without end. Stop waiting when insane kremlin more lose control and just using nuclear strike.

​@@eliasseun6886Yes they certainly do. And anyone else thinking of sending others to war.

"What if they identify as women!?" Then they are drunk Russians that would rather go to jail.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hilarious

This is actually a good question. I wonder if this will save them

No room for identity politics in war time

Except the political identity of them and us. The most brutal, basic form of it. Read a book, rather than regurgitate internet soundbites. ​@vervetech9395

So your idea is to send everyone that is trying to get educated and cares about any amount of accountability to the front line and let everyone that is essentially blind to world events stay home. Sounds like what putin is doing in russia so im guessing that's the side your going for?

@@victorescobar7437 False Dilemma Fallacy.

@@NurturesWrath exactly why it’s a response to the first message and Putin has been arresting dissidents from the beginning of the war, shutting down news about the war conscripting people like crazy sending and sending people from prisons to the front lines.

@@victorescobar7437 It is the highest educated that start wars. it's the not so educated that fight them.

@@tobylynch actually it’s the poor that fight wars and the rich that rarely fight them. There have been professors, scientists that have gone out to the field. Then there were the professionals that invented the enigma machine, decoded enigma, nukes, any modern weapon.

Женщина идите на кухню посуду мыть

А умнее ничего сказать, не можешь? Вот иди и ты помой, у меня уже посудомоечная машина всё помыла😀, вы лучше нам расскажите, как ваши украинские чиновники министерства обороны включая и зеленского, украли миллиардами с миллиардовой американской помощи американских налого плательщиков, на свои виллы и яхты зарубежом, ваша Украина такая же гавно, коррупционная страна ни чем не лучше России. Воюйте за свой счет, больше американские миллиарды с наших налогов, которые должны идти на благо американцев и американские пенсии, вы не получите. Россия наименьшее за свой счёт воюет. А вы попрошайки мировые, ходячая чаша подаяния, миллиардами у запада и Америки. Слава Богу республиканцы заблокировали помощь, и европейцы бастуют против тоже, чтоб с их налогов украинским ворам шло. Не хочешь перемирие, так иди и сама погибай за своего коррупционного зеленского, скоро и людей не останется в Украине.@@edwardvalivonis23

​@@edwardvalivonis23Мужчина.. Идите в окопы воевать, а не базарить!!!

@@user-jr5fk4nj8sженщина идите на кухню посуду мыть

He sent most of the Jews to Israel in the beginning as there were Ukrainian Jews in Israel who were clearly of military age yet as citizens should be expected to serve like anyone else

Men marching off to war with women cheering and in some cases weeping

Those women have to raise children on their own, because their husbands are at war already for 2 years. It is very "clever" fro your side to "get rid of those women" so nobody will distract you from your peaceful life. No. This will not work like this.

Do you seriously expect women to go to the frontlines? Peak western brain rot right here

Or just stop the war. It’s all political, could have been stopped a long time ago

women: send useless man to war in russia..... they are trash manginas: yes we are trash... we will do whatever you say!!

Just like all the people hundreds or thousands of miles away who go all over 🇺🇦 Slava Ukraine 🌻 When they live their cosy lives far from the ravages of war

Should draft them as comfort women for the soldiers, would improve morale and increase new recruits at the same time

And the European Human Rights Court didn’t rule this as illegal. Equality only when it suits them

what about ‘Sarah Ashton Cirillo’ ??? all pretty stunning & brave, no ? 🥴🤦🏽‍♂️😂

Because the job of women is to give birth to the next soldiers. Sending women to the front is like annihilating your population

What if (as someone else pointed out) you self identify as a woman 👠

But He has an Israeli passport😂

he actually doesn't@@yeetian2774

Should be soldiers at the front line in the snow and soggy trenches, not office staff.

Upgraded hypersonic shovels

manufactured with recycled washing machine chips

I heard all the shovels have cancer.

russian bots just proves putin is in deep s*it 😂

they've dug in very well

There’s untold thousands hiding in Ireland send them back.

i think they mean war fatigue and war weariness. At some point the soldiers are to tired to continue and have to go have a break and rest thats just how it is with war its stressfull and you cant go on indefinetly and when those soldiers go on leave somone has to replace them. You cant keep soldiers on the frontline forever i think 7th armoured desert rats suffered from war weariness and was less willing to but there life on the line since they were tired of war by 1944.

the thing is also a lot of these ladies have been lied to. they are being told their boys will be home soon or that they have been captured by russians when they probably died 6 months ago.

@@jensole8939That is called “Out of Human Resources” that cause war fatigue. Yes they’re fatigue because the insane loses makes impossible to replenish the holes with well trained conscripts. So the thing is the new conscripts not well trained and have no experience go to the front and die much faster. The professionals have to hold the line much longer and because of that they’re fatigue. But worst, the new army is getting weaker and weaker with new people going to the front with just of couple of weeks of training. So, i don’t think Ukraine is going to do well in coming months.It’s a war of attrition that the Russians are doing is this war.

​@@yomeroyomismo8212most real wars are attrition which is why they went on for years

Then don't cry losing your country

Idk zelensky has gotten billions in military aid, stayed in Ukraine instead of evacuated and as far as i've seen has been going non stop to win the war. Why would you think the front lines is best to him when that would be a moral blow for all the troops trying to win their countries freedom.

You own nothing in your country Your country owns You Stop daydreaming, kid

He was litterly in Robotyne giving medals to soldiers 2 days ago. That town is 500 meters away from russians.

Only in dictatorships with a cult of personality around the Dear Leader is a particular politician synonymous with the nation/people. Not everyone likes the Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Kim Jong Un model of society, and I'm quite sure that if your prime minister told you to go fight, you'd be hiding in your basement or trying to flee the country. . @@ghsense2626

And the rest of the Establishment like the BBC mouthpiece.

pessi6185, you are absolutely correct

Hey three comments that are bang on..that makes for a pleasant change.

As theyvshould

Mine only goes towards Russia not fascist ukraine

Russia is the one supporting Hamas that slaughtered Jews on oct 7. Seem like Russia is more fascist.

Imagine being a russian bot.

Blackrockistan

@@AdrianA-mo5qd Imagine being a ukranazi

A lovely man. Amnesty International still crickets.

With Biden's consent. Do you really think Zelensky and Co are an autonomous figure

@@mariapetrova3698 He's Nuland's employee like Joe himself.

probably a bad idea for a sех tourist to spy for the enemy of the country you’re staying in.

You've chosen a very fitting username! Keep repeating claims that you have no evidence for.@@naturalnonsense

The recent debacle with the main commander taking a picture with the country's Far right leader in front of a picture of a nazi was pretty wild.

Loosing? Haha loser

@@TheCullousus he took a selfie last year around his birthday with a picture in the background of Banderas but no one cared. Like the Azov brigade. When someone or something is hyped it's allright. But when things change and time pass many will realise how blind they were. That is the modern human standards.

@attilakiss5400 well it seems the main stream media's propaganda may be slowly unraveling

If people put 2 and 2 together and question the propaganda, it should quickly become obvious Ukraine is finished.

Why does Russia need rapists and murderers from prisons to fight for them 🤔

Bad bot

​@@hdrote9701well, that's what "ukriane claimed"! And you call them bots for stating facts from ukrinforum crapland??!

@@Emma.Ari123 I called Them a bot because if you look at Their posts all you see is reciting of Russia Today talking points. Whether a real human or not, it shows an intelligence of a bot - unable to think for itself. As for the counteroffensive, Ukraine admitted in late June that counteroffensive is not going as well as expected(same month it started) and in late October - early November it was confirmed that the counteroffensive had ended. Ukraine did recapture 14 towns but no major breaks in the line occurred. But considering your language, it’s clear that you do not care about facts, only licking Putin’s boots

​@@hdrote9701 facts? Okay begensky's puppet from begraine. Ukriane is a lost cause. It is completely dependant, crippled and has lost land since the beginning. The war is more or less done it's just that it's being dragged on by a narcissist who doesn't want to give up. Big talks for a person supporting its regime!

Men: conscripted! Women: most effected 😮 Where are the strong brave women now?

Historically, states would usually conscript children before conscripting women.

There's actually a surprising number of ukranian women fighting on the front lines. Like a substantial amount

@@Jeremy-wh4di aaaahktually, there's a lot of Ukrainian women blah blah blah. 1. You can't prove that 2. Women have gotten out of conscription easy FOR ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY. They are an exception, not the rule.

They are left for enjoy of uk and us tourist

Conscription of pregnant women would be the lowest level especially if late term

@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 considering zelensky is a pethetic worm i wouldnt count it out yet

"To fight in a war that you" didn't start. Fixed that for you.

@@ragingmonk6080 Clueless muppet... haha.. Study history much?

They got invaded, they have no choice. 1000 of years ago when the mongols invaded one could run away as an alternative, in the present the borders are closed.

The borders are closed because the Ukrainian government has closed them for their young men, while many young Ukrainian women flee to other Western countries. Also, simply being invaded doesn't necessitate one participating in or mounting an armed resistance. A YT channel, "Videos from Mariupol" has been documenting his experience. A civilian who agrees with the Russian's claims to these oblasts may not necessarily want to conscripted to fight for Ukraine. When you have to scrape the barrel and begin considering conscription for men over 40, it's a clear sign that the war is lost. Reminiscent of the fall of the Third Reich and their Volkssturm.@@wokeaf1337

@@wokeaf1337 What? You realised that not all 40M people can run away, right? Also, yes, they got invaded but the whole world knew it was going to happen, even predicted weeks before by the US. Ukraine could have simply stayed neutral - confirm that they won't join NATO but join the EU. Unfortunately, diplomacy went down the drain for a policy of hate and emotions.

Just say you hate women.

😂

Wonder if y'all seen any Russian men there as well

@@Lilquan2004 Yes I have, but by far more Ukrainians overall

Same in Luxembourg! They are walking around with fake medical exemption papers and will never return! Same as women though , they doesn't seem bothered.

Cowards!

If everyone thought like that, there'd be no place left to go

😂😂😂

😂 good one!! I mean it's true!

😢

True that.

@@zallyzally2698 Its facts... 5 million refugees have gone to Russia... Russia currently hosts the largest no. of ukrainian refuggees.

Well, given that when the whole world thought russia was about to take Kiev, all those politicians stayed in Kiev to fight, and then the russians ran away with their tails between their legs..... seems to prove you wrong.

Fink gets his no law landerette, Nuland returns her Khazar family back to the homeland. Both need to be on trial.

Saw the same in Moscows subway recently, well, except it was 3 guys wearing Rossgvardia uniforms.

@@zbynekII clown

@@crash54599 He was not clown. He looked like somebody from the regions.

Rosgvardia=police. So u have seen an immigrant convicted by the police.

@@jacobfrost2131 Rosgvardia is an internal army answering directly to Putin only, its not police and not army. You can say its Putins variant of SA.

Real honor is gained by wanting to be a soldier (for the right reasons) and acting it out. Real soldiers abhor conscription because it is inherently immoral, and goes against the sense of honor.

Germany was pushed from all sides, Russia does that only in one city.

Russia attacking all over the frontlines atm@@wokeaf1337

Whatever happened to the half naked feminist women demanding equality??? Women should be drafted too for equality!

No thanks to Russia illegally invading Ukraine in a war of conquest. This is not about “security” it’s about rebuilding the Russian empire, with Putin as Tsar.

@@francois1461 ru-vid.compKohXZx0fBo This is one of thousands of examples of how the military shoves me into a car against their will. This is a forced mobilization. What do you say now?

Lol Russia's army is just as poorly trained and full of conscripts

Russia is not well trained LOL

@@performance618 better than Ukraine that's for sure

@@performance618 and I'm not pro Russian I'm just stating the obvious

@@wesandrews4094 considering the extremely poor performance vs an army with no equipment and the use of conscripts along with such a high death toll...

I guess once xoxols die they lose their citizenship and since they are left in territory captured by RU they are counter towards russian losses.

The people want peace and a real elected leader which they've been denied since 2014.

😂😂😂 Ukraine people no longer wnt to fight those are lies

Well he managed to kick putin's ass and not allow him to capture the whole country, while putin can't even save people from freezing. He's the real comedian here 😂

@@kestutisi Do you really believe ukraine is winning? ukraine front line are running thin day by day and the army is panicking. I hope the war ends as soon as possible, but Zelensky and Biden dont want to end it for some unknown reasons

No America was the reason Putin couldn't kick y'all as ​@@kestutisi

NATO expanded eastward anyway, so the motivation for attacking Ukraine was an illusion?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cq223PiDMyY.htmlsi=CZIdvSh4eIfwO56e

England?

@@harukrentz435 To win with Russia Zelensky will need at least 5 million soldiers + 4000 tanks and at least 7000 airplanes for air support. Please tell me where will he get such numbers? Because I don't know.

​@@oldi184simple he won't meaning Russia is most likely going to win the war in like few years they slowly drp Ukraine soldiers

Are you serious? You just proved the Ukraine advantage. Russia was DEFENDING its home front. Germany was INVADING. Ukraine is defending its home front. In your "comparison", Russia is Germany. The invading force needs to be 5X the defending force in most military scenario war college training.

Robot Army

Day 1 of the invasion ukraine banned all men aged 18-63 to leave. Unless they left before the invasion, theeir only chance was to have enough money.

​@@berndarndt9924check Ukrainian Jewish refugees in Israel and there were men of military age so clearly some special treatment at work

@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 the "special treatment" is having money to bribe people.

​@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 Jew don't have country outside Izrael.

@@sealandsand1225 as Ukrainian citizens they should have been expected to stay and serve like anyone else that is the principle of citizenship. Clearly a deal was arranged between Israel and Ukraine of which the MSM doesn't emphasise perhaps they all had special permission as the legal ruse as wars breed corruption although do put an end to others as the pressure and scrutiny of resources due to the exergencies does also occur.

It takes at least a year to fully train a soldier to be effective on the battlefield,and they need to have the will to fight,so conscription now is just a act of desperation.

@@chrisj2502 not desperetion nessecity they anuced it like month ago still havent passed it dont feel the hurry

​@@chrisj2502 You probably got it wrong. Mobilization (conscription) did not stop even for a day starting from 24.02.2022. Current law is about how to make it more efficient because we certainly need to mobilize more soldiers than we usually do. The noise about this law is due to the sanctions against those who hide from draft. Until know people simply could efficiently hide (e.g. worked from home and did not open the door to any unknown person). Now such people will have problems with money (unless they illegally receive salary in cash) and will have to visit draft centers at least to update information about them and their health there.

A tired veteran most liekly not.

Western bullcrap

It was propoganda the jig seems to be slipping now

Lol

they’ve all suddenly gone mysteriously quiet

​@@lw1zfogvery unlike them isn't it? 😂

Yeah but isreal are fighting a militan. Here they are fighting well trained army. Women conscription in Israel are just fighting minimal threat.