Ukrainians react to a new mobilization law passed today, which expands the powers of authorities to issue draft notices and limit exemptions from military service in the face of the ongoing Russian invasion. #ukrainenews #ukrainewar
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Is there some reason why the well-dressed iPhone-carrying men in this video demanding mobilisation aren't fighting on the front lines themselves? Or they mean poor men from eastern villages should all be mobilised?
@@thegoat11111rich people, police and government with families will survive) These people hide child in Europe, and making good money on the war. 1 ticket to across a border for a man now cost up to 25 000$. Good money, right?
@@thegoat11111 Europe & USA send money, and because of corruption our government and politicians stealing the money and buying houses in Europe and USA. So technically Europe invest in European infrastructure, good business ha? Bad that people die, but no one really worry about that. Even people in Ukraine do not understand it, because politics spend billions European money in propaganda.
If you have every single male ukrainian on the front lines, there will be no one to run the economy, man support units, train additional troops, firefighters, policemen, drone pilots, air defense, etc and no one to raise the next generation of ukrainians. That makes no sense
this is a good solution. people who desert should be brought back. then they can fight for their country and serve their sentences there. you are not allowed to circumvent the law.
The issue I find amusing is people from far away who are not in any way connected to this being angry that young Ukrainians are not so willing to go to the frontlines. Do these people really think they know what's going on more than the people concerned?like wtf
Of course people don't know situation there but why they have an man shortage? Country of 40 million. When my country was 4 million and invaded we gathered 450000 soldiers. Why are they not so motivated to defend their own soil?
Ukraine needs to rotate her troops away from the combat zone. It is a proven fact that by 180 days in combat that humans are too traumatized to be effective militarily; at that point they need psychological attention to cope with what they have experienced. We should not let these brave men & women reach that point!
They've not really had a choice, due to a complete halt to the US aid! The dynamics have changed and have been continuously changing throughout the past 6 months. Ukrainian troops WERE getting rotated in and out, but since they are so incredibly low on weapons and ammunition, this isn't happening so much because they are taking heavy losses. Ukrainian allies shouldn't just change from being an ally and helping, to absolutely no support whatsoever! How can ANYONE plan ANYTHING like that!
There is not enough left to rotate I believe. It's game over. The best they can do is ask for peace and save who is left. That's pretty obvious by now.
Well, when your country has existed as a country for only 30 years, and then as a result of the fact bcs of those whom you hate, then I think this is not such a motivation
@@mitrogulf4073 It existed for a helluva lot longer than that before it was swept into the Soviet Union. Enough with the revisionist history, already...
what happens to them if they say something the government doesnt like? if they could throw american journalists in jail and m urder him imagine what they would do to their own people for speaking out...
They've not really had a choice, due to a complete halt to the US aid! The dynamics have changed and have been continuously changing throughout the past 6 months. Ukrainian troops WERE getting rotated in and out, but since they are so incredibly low on weapons and ammunition, this isn't happening so much because they are taking heavy losses. Ukrainian allies shouldn't just change from being an ally and helping, to absolutely no support whatsoever! How can ANYONE plan ANYTHING like that!
I know America is being a jerk why does Israel need all this help they’re destroying Palestine in there war and gliding terible things there while Ukraine got invaded by Russia and needs there help not saying America needs to give them billions but they just need to stop Russia from doing whatever they want
You mean like how all the children of Russian politicians Are off vacationing or going to school in europe? Solovyovs was getting flamed for his 🏳️🌈 son partying in europe, shoigus son studying at college in europe, a russian governor was getting calls from his constituents complaining why his son is partying in dubai, should I keep going?
The Earth is our homeland. Countries only exist in the minds of men, to keep them divided and to kill each other for imaginary constructs that don't exist in reality. WAKE UP!!!
People don’t know what they’re getting into. Lack understanding the military and war. And not everyone is tough especially when deaths are laying right in front of you.
Soldier lose motivation and courage to fight if their forces are on the losing side. Russia decimate the Ukrainian Advances, pound their fortification to dust, annihilate their weaponry left and right this is the reason why Ukrainians this year are afraid of facing the Russians especially after that Fall of Avdiivka which they called "The Most Fortified City In The East".
A lot of people don't realize that the US Marines who fought for years in the Pacific storming islands actually spent less than 180 days in actual combat. Units were in contact with the IJA far less than you might think, although the combats were really bad for both sides. The trend has been for armies to employ soldiers for far longer tours than in the past.
Hundreds of billions of dollars are poured into this country, their soldiers are trained by soldierds from other countries. The US and NATO are helping Ukraine with 24/7 reconnaissance in the air, sea and space. They help with equipment, weapons, ammunition, plus there are volunteers from other countries and all sorts of charitable events, donations for Ukrainians from various politicians, RU-vidrs, and so on. Now take all this, cross it out and think again, really, where would Ukraine be now.
lol that might just do Russia’s job for it when there’s mass protest and riots,this law they just passed took months and they could only reduce the age range by 2,to 25,now what do you think would happen should they reduce it by 9 years.
What's crazy is that we won't help them out with the tools to do the job, so that they can save some of their young (and older) people to carry on their civilization... I'm guessing that if the Zedniks overcome them, and head into a treaty country, that you'll support mobilization at 18 in the U.S.?
Why are they walking around and not in the uniform? I am talking about younger guys in this video. How they can't get 2 million soldiers, country of 40 million people? When we have 4 million people we got 450000 soldiers when invaded. How willing are they to defend or they expect for someone else to do it for them?
Kyiv is being hit everyday , air raid sirens sound every night . But life goes on , people do their best to live a normal existence despite the war . A Ukrainian lady called Vita has a YT channel -Think Ukraine , she is from Kyiv and paints a pretty good picture of life and survival in her city ... She speaks of being alive today and maybe being dead tomorrow . Does that sound like a good reason to party ?
@@shaneb315no sounds like a good reason to either fight or get tf out of that country no party and jumpin up and down while other countries send money and troops to do it for her. Sounds like an idiot
Such interviews will be held with us in a few years, if we do not stop Petr Bystron, Marjorie Taylorovich Greenova, Václav Klaus, Viktor Orbán,... now.
You people are truly deranged. I hope they win, because you all aren’t any better. Like hedging your bets on two turd sandwiches… one with rye and one with white bread. Still both turd sandwiches. At least they understand the value of preserving culture, rather than working to destroy it and replace it with this failed social experiment we are reluctantly living through in the west.
What Viktor orban got anything to do with this? He clearly anti war as he mentioned in several interviews. One of the only country who willing to speak to both end to end this non sense. Hungary is also taken an incredibly high amount of ukranian refugees since the war started.
Is it all Russia's fault? So, it was Russia that brought down its own puppet government 2014, by force, and sparked a civil war with its own Russian population in the eastern regions? Was it also Russia that gave the new Ukrainian government so many guarantees in foreign support so they would stoically oppose Russia? No. Russia is far from the only party to blame for this war.
this is a good solution. people who desert should be brought back. then they can fight for their country and serve their sentences there. you are not allowed to circumvent the law.
I have been saying all of those countries should have sent troops to ukraine for 2 years now, join the club. If the US, Germany, U. K. Canada had all sent 10k ground troops each like you're saying they should, this war would have been over in a month. You're totally right
I hope those who understand the futility of war get to escape successfully. Nothing is more valuable than your own life, not your family, not your sweetheart, and certainly not the government or whatever.
@@a24396 Even though some women are a subject to conscription they are not actually fighting. It is against the law. And one or two volunteers who are actually fighting is not plenty.
@@orelstore NYT reporting there are approximately 65,000 women serving. "These women fill a growing number of positions in the military: combat medics in assault units; senior gunners; snipers; commanders of tank units and artillery batteries..." Seems like there's a fair number that are participating in combat... Seems like "plenty" is an accurate description...
The biggest issue Ukraine has had with mobilization is that they are concerned about demographic collapse 10, 20, 30 years down the road. Their population only started recovering from the combined effects of the Soviet era and post-soviet chaos around the mid-2000s and early 2010s. Ever since Euromaidan and the nearly 10 years of war before the full RU invasion, they've been losing what little gains they've made in the working & childbearing age cohort. Mobilization is a choice between saving their country now and jeopardizing any possibility of future prosperity. Even with her much greater population, you can already see the beginning effects of demographic collapse in the RU from their mobilization. It will be much worse in 20-30 years, UKR is trying to avoid that. One could argue that the one of the main reasons UKR was in a vulnerable enough state that RU considered trying to influence/annex/invade them is because of the depopulation efforts instituted by the USSR.
To save the country it was necessary to make an agreement with Russia in 2022, and even better - not to bring the matter to war, to fulfill the Minsk agreements approved by the UN Security Council.
@user-vu2oz1vv1p That doesn't have anything to do with my comment, but what you're basically saying is that, in order for UKR to save their country, they should've agreed to allow RU to destroy their country and violate their sovereignty. Doesn't make any sense. RU could've done nothing in 2022 and still had de facto control over the Donbass and Crimea and both RU and UKR would've both been fine. RU had no pretext for invasion in 2022 other than the territories they took in 2014-2015 during an invasion which they also had no pretext for. RU fucked up by invading, and then doubled their fuckup by being terrible at it.
@@fematrailer Ukraine's sovereignty was already violated after Russia took back Crimea, your fantasies that Russia wanted to destroy Ukraine are not supported by facts. I agree that Russia had no reason to launch a full scale invasion, but Russia had demands on Ukraine regarding NATO that Ukraine refused to fulfill. This was confirmed by David Aarkhmia, head of the Ukrainian delegation at the Minsk and Istanbul talks. Of course, this invasion did not produce the desired result, but the Russian army has not been defeated and continues to advance. Ukraine has suffered enormous damage, tens and maybe hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died, many cities have been destroyed, Ukraine has a huge foreign debt, this is what the saving" of the country has led to.
@user-ef6nq4ud7g Soveriegn enough to the point where they are still attacking RU refineries even though the US Secretary of Defense doesn't want them to.
I support that new law. I need to see my money's worth. We have sent more than 200 Billion USD so far. The least you Ukranians can do is sign up to fight for Zelensky and Victoria Nuland.
Absolutely not, you are defending an imaginary concept that doesn't exist in reality. Pure cowardice to abandon your children, wife, parents and give your soul to be sacrificed.
@@Jgero11this is either a sad attempt at trolling or someone needs to take you out of the sheltered world you live in. If you don’t fight for an ideology, someone else’s ideology will be forced upon you. But hey I know nothing I am just a BoT
This war only happened because NATO wanted Ukraine to throw itself against Russia and die in the process. A sane man wouldnt die for the interests of another country.
Second guy wants no draft, and thinks motivating the public is better? How's watching tens of thousands of civilians get tortured to death in the eastern cities work towards your motivation, man? Apparently not very well.
Unbelievable. They know what's coming if they lose- to their wives, daughters, etc. If you aren't willing to fight to keep a vicious enemy out of your home, there's no hope for you.
Stop with the sensationalism,are the Russians going to eat their babies or what?i wouldn't be surprised if you were thousands of miles away watching from your couch with popcorn cheering people to their deaths,if you love the Ukrainians so much get up and join their army.
@@operator9858 keep playing that star citizen hero boy, fkn sounding off about a war your country is complaining about helping. Bet you never wore a uniform in your life apart from your burger king one.
Strange discussion - If Ukrainians want to fight Russians every man should serve military. If they don't want to serve, Ukraine should go to the negotiation table! Second would be better !
Maybe they want to resist Russia, but just don't like the current leadership. It has happened in a war before that soldiers were happy to fight under one general, but not under another. Remember General Syrski is a Russian, born in Russia. Very unpopular in Ukraine. Remember, too, we are talking about a highly educated population which is being drafted at relatively mature ages (even 25 is older than the draft for WW2 or Vietnam). Not wanting to serve a particular general or president does not mean wanting to surrender to Russian rule.
@@WangMingGe Wasn't General Syrski the one who architected successfully the defense of Kiyv? Why did you say his place of birth instead of what he really did for Ukraine. Kiyv would fail into Russia hand without him.
@@thumtlnguyen3626 BS. Zaluzhny was in overall command, not to mention all the other commanders.. Also, given that the Russian forces were in grossly insufficient numbers to capture Kyiv to begin with (normally an attacking force should outnumber defenders at least 3 to 1 as per NATO doctrine, or even more in Soviet doctrine, to have a decent hope of capturing a defended position; the Russians themselves were several outnumbered), almost any moderately competent general should have been able to succeed at that. If you don't believe, well, I refer you to the numbers in the doctrines of every major military, as mentioned above. Now that the Russian is in charge, we lose town after town in rapid succession. You should also check what Ukrainian people think of him. Look at the comments on Ukrainian news. If you cannot read Ukrainian, translate them in Google. Ukrainians hate this guy, especially for his reputation for wasting our troops..see his nicknames "butcher" and "general 200" (soviet code name for cargoes of dead soldiers returning home), which we have given him precisely because of his casual attitude to the lives of his troops. Or, maybe, you think you know better than 1) the Ukrainian people and soldiers complaining, 2) both NATO and Soviet doctrine per defensive operations.
Sure, a volunteer professional army would be great, but it's a little too late to be planning a professional well trained army based on good salaries and well maintained and up to date equipment. Wouldn't you agree? The Russians will be in Kiev at this rate by Summer 2025 or much sooner if TRUMP is elected. The West will NOT commit troops with the faint possibility of France, and that is doubtful. What will happen is that Russians will expect the Residents of Kiev to Speak Russian and adopt a Russian Passport. If the Kiev civilian population resists, then they will be grossly marginalized in favor of Russian speakers, their salaries cut and benefits cut and may even face forced deportation to some Far East part of Russia. It has happened before. And of course in the face of further movements to take Western Ukraine, the Russian's will forceable conscript the Ukrainians to fight against their own people in the battles that follow against Lviv and eventually Moldova and parts of Romania that have a Russian component. Any part of Europe with a Russian Minority will be agitated to seek first independence like the People's Republic of Donetsk and Luhansk were, then given the opportunity to take Russian passports and vote for becoming Russian. Crimea was just another Example of the process of Ethnically Cleansing and changing the legal status of a region. Now, maybe you have plans to become Russian too? Maybe you don't care who is in charge? Both sides are equally corrupt and inefficient, so the choice seems to be fight or leave or SURRENDER. Surrender is an option that you there may not be realizing. Perhaps the West has already decided to support a partial reduction of land in exchange for 50 years of Peace. Now that would be something to see Russia actually follow those terms. Once Russia has the land, then it will reconstitute the manpower and install the political leaders and rebuild and rearm their army and then off to Moldova quite soon enough.
Russia literally tried everything before invading Ukraine. It has no bloody need to invade other countries, and Putin is a notoriously passive and stagnant politician, hence why original invasion of Ukraine was so limp wristed and he kept trying to negotiate peace again and again until Zelensky shut down all negotiations.
"Go and defend the country!" Say the ones who are not defending the country. But why would you go to war for people who failed at deplomacy (which ultimately caused this mess) and now want to keep the war going in order to not let a good tragedy go to waste? If ukrain lets itself be influenced by the west and refuses to have peace talks then that means that everybody who goes to war is a fool. The war has been only going into one direction and it will continue to do so unless a clear line is drawn. That's called "cutting your losses" and it's what reasonable people would do.
OR... you and your ruZZian comrades could just go back to your second rate country and just leave Ukraine in peace. $1,000 says you won't even deny being a ruZZian.
This is exactly why many Americans are against further aid to Ukraine. If you can't get any of your own people to serve in your armed forces, why should Americans risk our money and quite possibly, troops lives to save Ukraine? In the US, you're required to register for possible conscription at 18.
I hope that you are right and that this is the main reason. However, Americans should also see that helping Ukraine is beneficial to America itself - if Ukraine is gone, other Eastern European countries will transfer to the Russian world shortly. Their markets will then be lost to America. Countries like Bulgaria, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary are on the brink even now and consider what will happen if Russia prevails. Probably only Poland would remain in the pro-American camp from the central/eastern European region. And not only will we be lost to the US, we will even become its adversaries. Russia will turn us into enemies of the US, like it did after 1945.
@@BaumerPaulGefreiter It's hard to mobilize support when the support is so lackluster by those most affected (e.g. Europe). This has been a bone of contention for decades between the US and its other NATO partners. I agree our future should be together but only as balanced partners. The old order is no longer viable.
@@TankandDimples It's not hard. We register and fight when conscripted at 18. Not 27 ... and certainly do not delay strategic mobilization to years after the fact. Why should America mobilize for people less committed to military service than we are?
@@elevotv you would be correct about a year ago. European military aid is surpassing US contributions. U.S. military aid bill has been stuck for 5 months. the whole point of giving ukraine military aid is so that the U.S. doesn't have mobilize people for war because the ukrainians would have the ability to fight. They can compensate for having less soldiers by killing more Russian soldiers with more artillery, tanks and missiles. If Ukraine Falls, Russia will know that the west is too weak to stop them militaryily because they're too cowardly to give enough weapons to ukraine to fight, how can western societies have enough courage to fight an actual war when a NATO country is invaded.
