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Resources:
Metal GPU support and Mojave installation: support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898
CPU compatibility: forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-cpu-compatibility-list.1954766/
4,1 to 5,1 Firmware patch: www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+Upgrade+the+Firmware+of+a+2009+Mac+Pro+41/98985
Parts used:
Samsung 860 QVO 1tb: amzn.to/2Kee72g
RX 580: amzn.to/3eBHkC4
PCIe NVMe adapter: amzn.to/2XAc24O
*Graphics clarification: if it was confusing in the video, by default you can use a card with up to 225W TDP; the slot and each of the 2 mini 6-pins can supply 75W each. If I had used a mini 6 to 8 pin adapter, it would try to draw 150W from one connector- you can easily fry the board with that. If your card is an 8 pin you need to draw power from both 6-pins. if your card has 2 6-pins you need to use 2 mini 6 to 6 adapters, not a mini-6 to dual 6-pin. If you want to use a card that's over 225W (Vega 64, Radeon VII) you'll need to mod the PSU. A Radeon 5700 xt draws 225 so that's the most powerful card you can run without modding.
See this resource for installing the Pixlas PSU mod:thehouseofmoth.com/mac-pro-pixlas-mod/
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@stephengrace4389
@stephengrace4389 3 года назад
"This RX 580 I got for $90..." *cries in 2021*
@hadishawki7270
@hadishawki7270 3 года назад
ahahahhaahha. 90$, for what the box?
@ptkelly80
@ptkelly80 3 года назад
I paid several hundred for one two years ago. 😳
@00SNIVY00
@00SNIVY00 3 года назад
this was the comment I came down to find LMAO
@the_hybridgarage
@the_hybridgarage 2 года назад
@@00SNIVY00 2021: I got this RX for 500$
@carlbaroni1595
@carlbaroni1595 2 года назад
i was going to buy a rx580 for $200 aud but now on ebay its like $550 aud
@seanpierce3755
@seanpierce3755 3 года назад
I just wanted to say thank you so much for this video. As the original owner of a 2009 4,1 MacPro, this has been a great guide for keeping an ancient computer relevant. When I first purchased this computer back in the day, it was a pretty basic single CPU 2.93 GHz quad-core machine that I thought would serve as a decent desktop for routine daily use and amateur photography for a few years, which it did quite capably. I never dreamt it would still be going 11 years later. When the MacPro 6,1 came out, it didn't seem terribly appealing, so upgraded the 4,1 with a PCIe SSD, maxed out the RAM, and ran El Capitan for many years without a hitch. Having added several additional new MacBook Pros and Airs to the mix with newer operating systems led to sync issues via iCloud, and I thought I'd wait it out til the 7,1 came out to upgrade. Then came the announcement of Apple Silicon, which put those plans on hold. This led to a brief search for additional options until the dust settles. Hence, this upgrade path. Once the parts were acquired, flashed the 4,1 to 5,1, installed a 3.46 GHz 6-core Westmere, took the RAM to 48 GB, briefly upgraded to High Sierra, upgraded the WiFi/Bluetooth card, dropped in a RX580, loaded Mojave, and added USB 3.2 card. An afternoon worth of work, and the opportunity to clean out 11 years worth of dust, and feels like a fresh machine again:) We'll see what Apple Silicon brings, but at least I'm good for the moment...
@longwelsh
@longwelsh 4 года назад
Every time I have to open my 4,1 up I'm amazed by the design. I know PC cases have caught up in that regard since the 'finger slicer' days but it's still a masterpiece, yet adaptable and configurable.
@finndamage
@finndamage Год назад
It is. It's a beauty inside and outside.
@sharksbean
@sharksbean 4 года назад
That old Mac Pro design is so damned beautiful!
@kahlilgarcia3995
@kahlilgarcia3995 3 года назад
I agree
@ptkelly80
@ptkelly80 3 года назад
The inside is elegant as well. It’s so clean compared to my old Windows towers…so messy with cables!
@atisbasak
@atisbasak 2 года назад
Mac Pro 2019: Hold my beer.
@leswhite3524
@leswhite3524 2 года назад
IT'S A TRAP!!! RUN!!! Once you go Mac, you CAN'T go back! And worse, you can't afford to go forward!
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 2 года назад
@@ptkelly80 have you never seen cable management in your entire life?
@JamesJLaRue
@JamesJLaRue 4 года назад
I don’t think this video could have been made any better. Concise, clear, good pace, clean all around.
@rodefshalom
@rodefshalom 4 года назад
I’d love a follow up to these Mac Pro 5,1 videos that includes the following: 1) How to flash the GPU to show the boot screen. 2) How to install Windows 10 on this machine. It’s not officially supported in Mojave. 3) How to hack it to upgrade to Catalina. I love these videos. You inspired me to get into upgrading these cheese graters. I have two of these, I just picked up a 30” Cinema Display, and I might be looking at two more. FWIW, these also make fantastic 1080p Windows gaming machines.
@FriscoBoatersGarage
@FriscoBoatersGarage 4 года назад
Opencore is the answer to that.
@StuffIHave
@StuffIHave 4 года назад
@JMFC Just use the DosDude Catalina patcher
@krux7741
@krux7741 4 года назад
I am interested in the flashed rx580 cards.. (for bootscreen, high native res support etc) how's that done? flashing services are asking for more $ than the card itself to have that done... Aware of OpenCore... but it's a bit fiddly.
@fmlazar
@fmlazar 4 года назад
FriscoBoater's Garage How is opencore relevant? THIS IS NOT a Hackintosh.
@tfitzgex
@tfitzgex 4 года назад
@@fmlazar Doesn't need to bea hackintosh, clover and opencore help you get to catalina, and will help me get thunderbolt 3 on my 5,1
@Johnsormani
@Johnsormani 2 года назад
Fantastic video. I love how you add a second life to these older machines and show us these are not obsolete. I still have almost my old macs and MacBook since 2007 or so and all of them have been upgraded insole way or form with SSD and max memory. Every single machine is still very useable today.
@gvlocke
@gvlocke 4 года назад
it's interesting to watch a RU-vidr that's a lot more relatable to me who buys basically all my tech used. It seems more in reach than some people who buy and review brand-new tech that costs as much as a decent car.
@aajeev
@aajeev 4 года назад
Agreed. Recently watched one tech youturber, was complaining that his 34 ultra wide on top of his 38 ultra wide was too "distracting....". Guess what, he then borrow a Pro Display XDR and said he has to keep it (for now) because due to COVID19 so he can't return it yet, which I called BS. There is no way that 90% of people can even afford those setup. Even this automatic standing desk is expensive. I don't blame him because people likes to see techs, but it's great to see something relatable and most people could actually afford.
@richiehimes7990
@richiehimes7990 3 года назад
Yep! My early 2009 iMac is tired and I don' think there's anything I can do to kick it into gear so as one of the newly unemployed, this may be a somewhat affordable option. Thanks Mr. Miani!
@jarran.
@jarran. 4 года назад
You really make the best APPLE videos on the internet. Thank you for making this
@DonRossMusic
@DonRossMusic 4 года назад
Thanks, Luke. Used this video to do many upgrades on my 2010 Pro. One very small thing: the long-handled hex wrench is a 3mm, not 3.5mm. 3.5mm wrenches are extremely rare. :-)
@MikeDeezy_100
@MikeDeezy_100 4 года назад
I'm always excited to see any 5,1 videos. Great video Luke! Watching in 4K on my 2009 Mac Pro.
@shoian12
@shoian12 4 года назад
I did this a couple of years ago, it’s been my main computer since then.... awesome video... very easy to follow for people wanting to do something like this. The one thing I’d add to this video is that I believe ram lanes 3 and 4 share so you might see decreased ram speeds with all 4 slots being used , something to keep in mind if upgrading ram.
@carsandzombies7606
@carsandzombies7606 4 года назад
Wanted to build one two years ago as my main build. I still want to even in 2020! Lol great video as always Luke!
@electronicsandewastescrapp7384
@electronicsandewastescrapp7384 4 года назад
This is the exact build I was looking for when you did the fastest mac pro in the world build. Perfect.
@xpez9694
@xpez9694 3 года назад
ooops.. welp x5500 cpus are cheap these days..
@TuNnL
@TuNnL Год назад
Thanks so much for using Final Cut Pro as a "real world" test for your upgrade. So many RU-vidrs run a "test bench" or play a game, and leave you wondering, "how will this affect what I really bought this computer for?' This answers a lot of questions and leaves no doubt in my mind. 🏆
@charliekuhn1544
@charliekuhn1544 4 года назад
Great video Luke. It is nice to see these 5,1's still being useful. I have two 5,1's that I use today.
@MattyHughes
@MattyHughes 4 года назад
Definitely one of the best Mac Pros to upgrade! Straight up classic here💯💸
@TheJohnob1
@TheJohnob1 4 года назад
Definitely a good value... after loading Mojave, I added a cheap NVME (adapter and chip - $13 for adapter and $47 for chip) and the read/write speed are 4-5x faster than without it. I think in total I spent $400 on machine and upgrades.
@RetroPlayer93
@RetroPlayer93 4 года назад
I pretty much did the same thing with my 2010 dual tray. I slapped two x5690s and only 64GB of ram. Amazing video! I wish this was around when I did my upgrades.
@CoolStuffZone
@CoolStuffZone 3 года назад
Thanks for showing how to apply the thermal paste. That was the only step I needed help with :)
@hennarkilsen1389
@hennarkilsen1389 4 года назад
I Love those old cheese graters.
@manuel-xax
@manuel-xax 4 года назад
Hennark Ilsen same, I would have get one if they weren’t so loud and power hungry compared to the computer I finally bought : an I3 NUC :-)
@claytonberg721
@claytonberg721 4 года назад
I nearly bought a 12 core. What stopped me was the realization that it was as much a powerful computer as it was a spaceheater. My little place gets hot enough in the summer as is.
@JackBandicootsBunker
@JackBandicootsBunker 4 года назад
Had the Quad-Core G5 cheesegrater, indeed it was the most stylish, most imposing Workstation/PC I've ever had.
@greasysteve5671
@greasysteve5671 4 года назад
Ikr! They're so modular and space age
@seungkyeom
@seungkyeom 3 года назад
ANYONE ELSE USE IT FOR CHEESE?
@wimbraber944
@wimbraber944 3 года назад
It’s worth 500 bucks just to have it open and look at. What a craftsmanship!!
@joshpierce05
@joshpierce05 3 года назад
Thanks Luke, this is such an awesome project. I've been working one too, going to try out the PCI NVME drive adapter to get mega speeds on the hard drive.
@MrBargod98
@MrBargod98 3 года назад
I love my 09 tower, installed a SSD drive about a ago year ago. Was looking to to upgrade the CPU and graphics card now that I can see the simplicity, Thank you for this, will be making the changes.
@wickeRstick
@wickeRstick 4 года назад
Still rocking my mid 2012 with Vega vii and its a beast! Running with dual 27” apple cinema displays and its such a dream setup still
@matteialexxandru
@matteialexxandru 4 года назад
Much better design setup than 2020 one ☝️
@pixeworks1
@pixeworks1 4 года назад
Did you get yours to go up to Catalina, how did you get the thunderbolt displays to work, I have been looking for a thunderbolt to us b dongle.
@quangb8448
@quangb8448 4 года назад
You can connect the SSD on the connector for the second DVD drive that you probably don't have.
@propjoe1060
@propjoe1060 4 года назад
Have a 2008 model (3.1) and its still a great machine. 2 x quad core Xeons and 24GB RAM. Fitted it out with a GTX680 and have it running Mojave. Solid as a rock.
@stewsmith3536
@stewsmith3536 4 года назад
Luke: your video made me pull the trigger on this project. Hoping for the best!
@TheBluuHouse
@TheBluuHouse 4 года назад
Love it!! I have a 2009 5,1 - Dual 3.33GHz Xeon, 48Gb 1333MHz. Just ordered a Radeon RX 560 ITX. Thanks Luke.
@TheBluuHouse
@TheBluuHouse 4 года назад
Do you have a video of the best way to install Mac OS with a non flashed GPU?
@AlphaFox78
@AlphaFox78 4 года назад
@@TheBluuHouse install it with the stock GPU, load sierra first, as it does another firmware flash. then swap the video card for the RX580, which is natively supported. then upgrade to mojave. thats the process I have done.
@tompelican
@tompelican 3 года назад
When adding an SSD, I use the second connector on the DVD harness and let it live under the DVD.
@ncavis
@ncavis 4 года назад
I love my 4,1 with a Vega 56. It is by far the oldest piece of technology I use daily but the one I use most often.
@james94582
@james94582 4 года назад
Another awesome video... I recently picked up a 2010 5,1 to replace/upgrade from my still working quite well 2008 Mac Pro.
@scottkrieger2899
@scottkrieger2899 4 года назад
Built one of these after your last video. Dual processor though. It’s the bomb. Keep up the great videos. But, I’d split for the 2.5 to 3.5 drive adapter :)
@alhardy1644
@alhardy1644 2 года назад
What processor did u use
@petervansan1054
@petervansan1054 4 года назад
Luke: We can put whatever card we want in it Me: *sad nvidia noises*
@ecmorgan69
@ecmorgan69 4 года назад
Yeah, sorry, no Titans need apply here. 😒
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад
You could put nVidia cards into these Mac Pros. You'll be on High Sierra though. ;)
@ldfox11
@ldfox11 4 года назад
Everything I've read say's, if you put a Thunderbolt card in one these Pro's it wont works because the Motherboard was not designed for it. The card would cost as much if not more then the mac
@andrewholst9656
@andrewholst9656 4 года назад
@@ldfox11 They do, you just have to boot into Windows first then reboot into macOS if you want it to work in macOS. So you haven't read everything then.
@cylo5770
@cylo5770 4 года назад
@@WarriorsPhoto Just install OpenCore and go with Catalina almost "plug-n-play", plus install whatever VGA you want with boot screen as well ,)
@renragged
@renragged 4 года назад
That's pretty dope. I would LOVE to have that on my desk right now.
@DaddyBear3000
@DaddyBear3000 3 года назад
Watched a few of your videos, but this was the sub. You’re a legend
4 года назад
Oh gosh I hope that nobody that follows this forget to put thermal paste in the processor... But great video Luke! :D
@nadeemsilat6710
@nadeemsilat6710 4 года назад
He said he would add it to the heat sink
@jimmysavile69
@jimmysavile69 4 года назад
It probably came with thermal paste pre-applied
@othmanalshammari2111
@othmanalshammari2111 4 года назад
Play the video in x0.25 speed from 8:34 and you will see the white thermal paste on the cpu try to see it just before he put the heatsink.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 года назад
Como Ser Boladão This is apple, it will never get real hot inside, u reused it? was it still good enough?
@omaroe666
@omaroe666 4 года назад
If people forget to put thermal paste on the cpu/heatsink, then they shouldn’t be doing this in the first place.
@kethean22
@kethean22 4 года назад
This was cool. I love my 5,1 and it's my main computer! The only thing I'd add in terms of value and/or creature comfort is a cheap USB3 card (~$25). It won't be able to power multiple external HDDs but USB3 vs USB2 is a big difference! Similarly with speed, I think it's important to note that the hard drive bays are SATA2 not SATA3, which means the theoretical max read/write is 300MB/s. Mine has an old apple 128gb SSD and I get about 225 MB/s read and 150 MB/s write. This is just to say, don't buy some crazy fast SSD unless you are going to get a PCIE card to put it in! I really enjoy your videos and am always interested in what fun purchase/repair you make next!
@WillCate
@WillCate 4 года назад
Yes, good advice on the SSDs. I got a couple of the biggest cheapest ones I could find. My 5,1 MacPro: 2 x 6 core 3.46 gHz. 64 GB ram, same video card Luke installs here, USB 3 and latest Wifi/Bluetooth with external antenna port. The only other major upgrade I could make would be SSD on a PCI card.
@kethean22
@kethean22 4 года назад
​@盧昱翔40709 Based on a quick google search, it seems the theoretical maximum is 500 MB/s per PCI-E 2.0 lane. On a 4x slot that's a theoretical max of 2000MB/s but realistically it seems people get 1200-1500 MB/s with an NVME card. Seems pretty fast to me!
@diegoflores8626
@diegoflores8626 4 года назад
what ssd's do you recommend? Sorry, a little new to this so trying to figure it out still. Thanks!
@douglaslin5469
@douglaslin5469 3 года назад
@@diegoflores8626 Check out Macrumors for info on classic Mac Pro upgrades; many issues, not all compatible. For speed you probably would need the latest Mac firmware too. Put in a raid card into the spare 16 lane slot and you get double the speed of Thunderbolt 3; if the card is multi NVME card you can have the OS on one card and raid the rest, all on the card; 4,700 write and 5,300 MBPS is achieved by many that way. That hardware costs though and the used market might not be great for the best card because so far as Windows 10 goes it doesn't currently take advantage of the tech; strangely the old Mac benefits a lot. forums.macrumors.com/threads/pcie-ssds-nvme-ahci.2146725/ And with the best card the latest version is much quieter, so fan noise speed and heat sinks are important, after one is assured it will work. Probably half the speed or a third the speed of a new Mac Pro though, more issues too as these units are far from new!
@stampscapes
@stampscapes 3 года назад
These videos of yours are amazing. Thank you for all of the great info.
@garyg4158
@garyg4158 2 года назад
This video is extremely helpful. Keep up the good work, Luke! And thank you so much!
@alliejr
@alliejr 4 года назад
Excellent. And better than every “cheap” Hackintosh I’ve seen/built.
@brandon_nope
@brandon_nope 4 года назад
What about the builds from Snazzy Labs
@rs2klee
@rs2klee 4 года назад
i tried the hackitosh idea`s and omg what a pain in the ass.. reason i bought a mac pro 5,1 single then modified it to suit wayyyy better. For what i want it for works a treat.
@chrissoclone
@chrissoclone 4 года назад
Sorry, but that's objectively wrong. Hackintoshes can have quirks, can be problematic, but if you go with a tried and tested build they can be almost as easy and painless as a used Mac, with far more modern components. You even get rid of some built-in pains of original Macs.
@FoaxHawkMan19
@FoaxHawkMan19 4 года назад
I just made mine 2 months ago. I love it. This video would have been helpful then. Cheese grater values are going to skyrocket.
@mfmayes
@mfmayes 3 года назад
they already have, 2009 now going for 500 and up, dual cores are 700 and up
@denntheartist3772
@denntheartist3772 4 года назад
Man, you are a straight up genius. I'm going to try this. I'm stuck at El Capitan. I need this upgrade. Thanks much.
@jimmyvila4443
@jimmyvila4443 3 года назад
They never go out of style till this day..! Performance still very good too.
@joeschmeaux
@joeschmeaux 4 года назад
Don't forget the cost of power. For people who leave the computer on 24/7, if they can accomplish what they need to do on a mini, the savings in electricity costs over the pro will pay for the machine in short order. Mac pros are definitely machines one should put to sleep when not in use.
@beeldbuijs1003
@beeldbuijs1003 4 года назад
This is more applicable to the pre-2008 models: The 2,1 1,1 Mac Pro and the G5. Those had significantly higher power usage. That being said, sleep is on per default on macOS and why would you keep your Mac on 24/7?
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille 4 года назад
@@beeldbuijs1003 Well for 3D rendering you might definitely let it on all night.
@BARTOZZI-OFFICIAL
@BARTOZZI-OFFICIAL 3 года назад
Great video. I love this channel and the direction of your work, so here's some constructive criticism:.. You missed a bunch of very important points: 1. The processor you're recommending (as every other one for this platform) features a triple-channel memory controller. The CPU actually performs worse with two or four modules. So to take full advantage of the CPU you should go with 24GB(3x8) or 48 ((3x16) The 5,1 introduced CPUs capable of handling 1333MHz memory, instead of the CPUs that came with the 4,1 (1066), tests show a 4% advantage for the higher clocked memory setup. For a dual CPU scenario it's 48GB(6x8) or 96(6x16). For low-latency audio applications the single-cpu is better. For audio multitrack mixing and video applications the inter-cpu latency won't be an issue. 2. The SATA controller is 2nd gen, so you get 300 MB/s each way per drive and the 6-socket controller maxes out at less than 900((old PCIe). So the most efficent scenario is 2 SSDs and 2 HDDs, or a dedicated SATA3 PCIe card with a dedicated 2,5" drive mounting space for every SATA3 SSD. 3. There's a list of GPUs that work with Mojave. nVidia 740/760/780 support Metal natively, not all AMD cards are suppoorted and the nVidia Web Driver is not being developed since Mojave anymore, so 900 series, 10x series and 20x series are not an option with Mojave and up. You chose the best card for this scenario, but it's not like you said that we can install ANYTHING WE WANT. 4. The main argument against pimping out a cheesegraterr is the lack of Thunderbolt. It is possible though to install an add-in-card and enable partial TB3 support (PCIe element). Depending oon your use scenario, you might get it working just fine ((Universal Audio Apollo devices work fine). Cheers and stay safe Luke!
@TubeDancingBear
@TubeDancingBear Год назад
Thank you very much, really helpful!
@klausmeier3434
@klausmeier3434 4 года назад
I just had to make a decision whether to buy a Hackintosh or a Mac Pro 5,1 and all of a sudden Luke comes with a video on the MP. Fantastic, thank you!
@IBoughtItMyself
@IBoughtItMyself 3 года назад
Spectacular! Thanks for an absolutely fascinating build!
@visuellemontage
@visuellemontage 4 года назад
Even old Macs shine in a (tasty,) new light just by the way you say "valuable Machine"!🙂
@Skolberg84
@Skolberg84 4 года назад
I picked a 2010 up for $200 and it had the dual cpu tray then I added two of the 5675 xeons for another 45 bucks.
@richardlane1130
@richardlane1130 4 года назад
Great PRICE! Where did you purchase the Mac Pro from? Did that include shipping?
@andrewwichman7303
@andrewwichman7303 4 года назад
I got my 2009 for $100, flashed it and put in x5675’s also. 96gb ram and an rx580
@baconfister
@baconfister 4 года назад
Dayum that’s a screamin’ deal!
@questioneverything9761
@questioneverything9761 4 года назад
Im a newb. Will two 5675 Xeons and 16GB ram be great for Logic Pro x? What would you compare dual processors to in today’s market?
@rs2klee
@rs2klee 4 года назад
@@questioneverything9761 that will run nicely :) i use 1x 5680 in mine and runs really nice
@kentonwyatt5095
@kentonwyatt5095 Год назад
Hi Sean I know that this video was done some time back. However it is still very valuable to me I would like to thank you for this tutorial.
@WincTech
@WincTech 4 года назад
I love my 5, 1 Mac Pro! Mine came with a 6 Core Xeon X5670 processor, 32GB of RAM, standard HD 5770 GPU and a 1TB hard drive. I upgraded the GPU to an RX 570 4GB and the storage to a 250GB Samsung SSD and added a 2TB Seagate drive. Overall, pretty good for my video editing machine.
@user-ve9zv8oi6y
@user-ve9zv8oi6y 4 года назад
NEXT UPGRADE (I think) Install OpenCore Add Thunderbolt3 card
@cedric.muschkiet
@cedric.muschkiet 4 года назад
I Have a MacPro 3,1 and I love this :) I have upgraded to a 500gb SSD and a nVidia GTX 680 (Flashed for the Mac Edition) This thing has 32GB RAM and a dual Processor 2x Quad^^ with the catalina patcher, this mac run with catalina :)
@SignatureScentReviews
@SignatureScentReviews 4 года назад
Im about to buy a 3,1 for $220 with 16GB ram, any suggestions?
@sabesque...7080
@sabesque...7080 4 года назад
Luke is reading my mind. I've been researching this for days.
@scottkrieger2899
@scottkrieger2899 4 года назад
Do it. Do it. I have a maxed out 5,1 and use it everyday.
@shahmirkashif1179
@shahmirkashif1179 4 года назад
Scott Krieger is it up to date with all the software updates?
@haramaschabrasir8662
@haramaschabrasir8662 4 года назад
I love this machine so much I wouldn't bother if you would make a video about it every week.
@VocalOfficial
@VocalOfficial 4 года назад
i love the design of the old cheese graters. i remember when i was in an apple store for the first time and i saw one of those, i wanted one so badly. now you can get them for a few bucks. but atm i prefer my self built hackintosh. maybe i'll get one in the future as a second system. great video as always, keep it up luke!
@joshuaaxelio7631
@joshuaaxelio7631 4 года назад
Hackintosh is pain in the ass
@LeeMatches
@LeeMatches 4 года назад
Joshua Axelio I agree, but it’s less painful to me than paying 3 times as much for machine which offers little to no upgrade options.
@ryanclouse299
@ryanclouse299 4 года назад
@@LeeMatches Pretty true. Why I am looking at this. I have a windows machine and an older iMac. This seems like the perfect medium in that it's not super expensive, compromisable upgradability and more stable and less pain in the arse then a hackintosh. It's also pretty darn simple to upgrade to a Catalina. Catalina was supported in the beta release but was not supported in the official release.
@matthewcerza
@matthewcerza 4 года назад
For those wondering, the adapter is a mini 6 pin to 8 pin, not 4 pin.
@amitabhjoshi127
@amitabhjoshi127 3 года назад
This would work with the RX 580?
@stephengiles8005
@stephengiles8005 3 года назад
Dude, is that right, because I can’t find a 6 to 4 ANYWHERE?
@geekdomo
@geekdomo 3 года назад
I did this a few years ago. Made a killer mac pro. 128GB RAM 3 SSDs 1060 running High Sierra. Ended up selling it on ebay for a pretty great profit. I have 3 cheesgrater chassis left over from the combine operation. So now I am converting one to ATX to put a hackintosh in. Such an aesthetically pleasing case. I cant believe how thick the aluminum is compared to even my best PC case.
@rokkot8836
@rokkot8836 11 месяцев назад
Luke, i am loosing my mind with trying to upgrade this mac pro to Mojave. I love your channel and appreciate the help.
@UnderEu
@UnderEu 4 года назад
I wished I could do that in my place. These 5,1, besides extremely hard to find in the used/gray market, are abusively expensive - not to mention the components to make any upgrade 😢 (In case you’re wondering where I live: 🇧🇷)
@natthan7
@natthan7 4 года назад
Same thing here in Mexico 🇲🇽 even though we are literally next door. That processor price is ~+$50 dls here. And the Mac Pro itself is ~$600 dls
@MATTHEWMYTHHAVEN
@MATTHEWMYTHHAVEN 3 года назад
Im not wondering
@desertrunner7749
@desertrunner7749 4 года назад
Literally was about to do this a couple months ago, ended up just buying a Dell XPS. Wish I had this video then :(
@philippheller9439
@philippheller9439 4 года назад
You can still hackintosh it
@desertrunner7749
@desertrunner7749 4 года назад
@@philippheller9439 I though you had to have very specific hardware to do that
@jeffsims7386
@jeffsims7386 4 года назад
Good advice on the cards in the description. I ran an 8-pin RX570 off just one of the 6-pin mini plugs and am fairly certain that is why my logic board failed ($130-ish replacement) as I didn’t realize it was going to pull that much from the one plug 😞. I now run a two mini 6-pin to 8-pin adapter for my 570 in my 2010 5,1 auto-over locked with no issue (120-150 watt power draw under load).
@little_fluffy_clouds
@little_fluffy_clouds 3 года назад
My 2010 Mac Pro has dual X5680 chips for 12 cores and 24 threads, 64 GB RAM, RX 580 and an NVME SSD in a PCIE adapter card. Really solid performance for Final Cut Pro, Davinci Resolve and Logic Pro.
@StuffIHave
@StuffIHave 4 года назад
I‘m still happy with my 2008 Mac Pro with 32GB RAM I paid 130€ for.
@valramos2003
@valramos2003 4 года назад
Still using Mac Pro 3,1 (early 2008)
@MehediOfficial
@MehediOfficial Год назад
Very simple to follow instructions, thank you.
@PeterPenguin77
@PeterPenguin77 4 года назад
Awesome video! Thanks.... I’ve got an old early 2009 Mac Pro and I might upgrade it now!
@aarorasilainen
@aarorasilainen 4 года назад
Wait, I just did that yesterday. Well, almost. RX 590 and different SSD.
@MirkoMancini
@MirkoMancini 4 года назад
Hi, where did you get the cable? I see Luke connected it straight to the motherboard, so isn't the complicated power supply cable modification, it's a new cable which provides power from the pin on the mobo ain't?
@aajeev
@aajeev 4 года назад
Can you tell me where did you get the RX590 and if it will work with the Mac Pro 5,1 right away? I want to upgrade my graphics so that I can drive either a 34 or 38inch ultra wide. My stock video card can only go up to 1440p. Thanks!
@titanic_letsplay3066
@titanic_letsplay3066 4 года назад
Hey i have a question. I cliked on the amazon link and it showed me the Retro edition. It cost 177€ and is way to expensive or me. Also i cant find the RX 580 anywhere available . And you said we dont gonna get the booting screen . How can i get him ? Is the Adapter for that ? . And where can i find this power cable for the RX 580 ? . it would be nic if you could answer me
@TheWinterwraith
@TheWinterwraith 4 года назад
Titanic_Letsplay Yeah the cheapest I’ve seen the RX 580 is £160. That’s over $200
@mozaic_channel
@mozaic_channel 3 года назад
You sold me on this for my first Mac since my experiment with an old G3 Mac. Just want to play with my drone footage. Now I need to find a decent base Mac Pro.
@yelir64
@yelir64 4 года назад
Thank you for your contributions to the pc building community
@TheDoritopicante
@TheDoritopicante 4 года назад
Wow now I want to make one for my self and sell my old iMac 🖥.
@stanmunday
@stanmunday 4 года назад
Same here, I have a mid 2010 iMac. If only you could use the iMac as purely a screen!
@carlstanford7607
@carlstanford7607 4 года назад
I nearly punched my iPad i tried to hit play so fast
@DBLCreations
@DBLCreations 4 года назад
And those upgrades, after 10yrs. is exactly why a Mac Pro is worth it to me. I'm going to buy the new 2019 one. Even though there will be one with Apple silicone in the coming years, the 2019 will still be supported throughout the years. If get anywhere between 8 to 10 yrs with it i'm happy. I'm not a professional at all, more a prosumer. I do some light web/graphic design but i also like to make music with Logic Pro X and i also do a little bit of video editing. I have the 6-core trashcan Mac Pro 2013 but it's getting really slow on me. I have the D700's with 64GB of ram in it. But i'm getting it to it's limits. I'm going with a Mac Pro 16-core with 96GB of ram, 8tb SSD and the w7500 AMD gpu with 16gb. I think this machine will last me for a very long time! Thank you for this video Luke and showing exactly why a Mac Pro is worth it!
@nicjasno
@nicjasno 4 года назад
I saw your videos on upgrading a mac pro and bought mine on the basis of that. Mine is a 12 core 5,1. No regrets.
@maechyl
@maechyl 4 года назад
How would this handle Ableton and/or other DAWs compared to a mid 2014, 15" Retina MB Pro with 16gb ram and a 2.5 GHz Quad-Core i7?
@DJKrikor
@DJKrikor 4 года назад
technical.city/en/cpu/Core-i7-4870HQ-vs-Xeon-X5675 I'd say it's equivalent if the mac pro have a single cpu and the mac pro would be better if it's dual
@maechyl
@maechyl 4 года назад
Thanks for the reply! Is there a specific mac pro model # I should be looking for that I fan upgrade with two cpu's? There's a lot of options on Ebay and I wanna make sure I make the right choice.
@nolanswiger694
@nolanswiger694 4 года назад
Hey Luke I’ve recently recently got a 2012 MacBook Pro for 250$ it came with a 500gb sad 8gb of ram duel core i5 is it good value or not good value?
@mohammedelbaba5330
@mohammedelbaba5330 4 года назад
Good value
@coolcamtv4923
@coolcamtv4923 4 года назад
ive been looking at (used) macbooks recently and in my opinions that seems like a good deal in my opinion.
@wobsoriano
@wobsoriano 4 года назад
Good value
@nolanswiger694
@nolanswiger694 4 года назад
Coolcam Tv thanks for the feed back!
@MrIDGAF
@MrIDGAF 4 года назад
Decent value but you can run the latest macOS at amazing speed, but if your Mac stops getting updated next year then you can do Hackintosh to get the latest OS or install Windows 10 (which works really fast - and just download a free ISO copy and from the Microsoft website get a activation bypass/unlocked) that I recommend. You can also, keep both macOS and Windows (by the Bootcamp app by Apple - search it on RU-vid) but you only can run one OS at a time and both OS will take up separate space.
@jlperez1234
@jlperez1234 4 года назад
Thank you we always appreciate the knowledge you share with us!!!
@vanhan4225
@vanhan4225 3 года назад
I like the way how hones you are try to help anther people. Good presentation in listing all those parts which make easy following.
@cookie7993
@cookie7993 4 года назад
"We can put what ever graphics card in here" Bottlenecking: Am I a joke to you?
@mohammaddebes7681
@mohammaddebes7681 4 года назад
This isn't a Windows gaming machine. There's not much of a limit for GPU power if it can be utilized by your software (which it can on most productive Mac apps)
@siqu7071
@siqu7071 4 года назад
@@mohammaddebes7681 So which programs need that much power?
@cookie7993
@cookie7993 4 года назад
@@mohammaddebes7681 there's still a bottleneck dude.
@fedism
@fedism 4 года назад
@@cookie7993 will there be bottlenecking if you have a 12 core xeon installed?
@ChengTeoh
@ChengTeoh 4 года назад
I'm curious could you put in a Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 GPU?
@sofyanalamudi554
@sofyanalamudi554 4 года назад
You could but there a no drivers for the Nvidia videocard in Mojave or Catalina.
@tsumii4384
@tsumii4384 4 года назад
Someone Might of made the kexts
@StuEvans
@StuEvans 4 года назад
Its bad enough with anything NVidia at the moment. I have a 5,1 with a very similar Nvidia in my studio. Its been a nightmare recently. Any security updates keep breaking any 'fixes'. I would not wish the aggravation on my enemy. They really want a 'Metal' capable card. As a user you will be stuck in the middle of corporate wars. However it will work but you have to be in it for the pain. Apple fell out big time with Nvidia and development is really not supporting anything Mac
@emotionalintelligence776
@emotionalintelligence776 3 года назад
@@StuEvans It's funny you still have to state this in 2020!. Apple is going all in. Nvidia was dumped by Apple last year and this year they'll be dumping AMD! Even with Mohave and a Catalina hack, the metal-supported cards in these Macs will become obsolete by design when Apple silicon drops, then it'll be an Apple-only love affair. IIRC, if you have a Windows 10 dual-boot installed you may be able to do something from the Darkside then soft boot back over into the Light, but it's a PITA, YMMV. There are other great cards out there, your best bet is Google in advance Pros and Cons and hacks before you buy!
@RonaldSaur
@RonaldSaur 3 года назад
@@emotionalintelligence776 Mac is going with their own CPU or they doing their own GPU ?
@ProductivePM
@ProductivePM 4 года назад
I am watching this video on my 2009 Cheesegrater with 3.46 Ghz 6 core flashed to 5.1 with RX580 and 64 GB of Memory and 1 GB SSD. I saw your earlier video when you upgraded a Mac Pro and it inspired me . . . . I've been happy ever since . . . . Thanks Luke!
@ronmac1832
@ronmac1832 4 года назад
Great value or not, it sure looks like a fun project. Thanks for the video!
@axvingaming152
@axvingaming152 4 года назад
8:34 I THINK YOU FORGOT THE THERMAL PASTE
@Eli-si4zf
@Eli-si4zf 4 года назад
AXVINGAMING if you slow down the playback speed to .25 you can see it as he’s setting the heatsink on
@ChrisOh
@ChrisOh 2 года назад
RIP RX 580 for $90....
@BrinkHouse
@BrinkHouse 3 года назад
Great video as always, Luke. It should be noted for anyone interested, the Pixlas PSU mod actually isn't necessary to power Radeon VII, as I've been doing so with just the power off the motherboard, and have gamed hard for months on it with zero issues!
@FireAngelOfLondon
@FireAngelOfLondon 2 года назад
If you fry your logic board please come back and post to let people know.
@marcosilva2719
@marcosilva2719 4 года назад
this is really cool, Luke!
@avanishgh
@avanishgh 4 года назад
lol this has the gpu has a mac pro xD!!!
@fwmtb
@fwmtb 3 года назад
What do you mean?
@tpelegrin1320
@tpelegrin1320 4 года назад
6:37 D I L D O
@ch1ckenballs
@ch1ckenballs 4 года назад
Thomas Pelegrin deeldo
@DestonProductions
@DestonProductions 3 года назад
Great vid! Would love to see if it can be maxed out even more
@paullikesrobots
@paullikesrobots 4 года назад
So excellent I love the just pop the SSD in the slot and let it hang :) I use ICEY DoCks in mine, but I did pop a SSD in the second optical bay recently and let it hang :)
@caleamus
@caleamus 4 года назад
But, can it run GTA V?
@SandsOfArrakis
@SandsOfArrakis 4 года назад
It can run Crysis.
@Vanga007
@Vanga007 4 года назад
on the Internet there is a how to install Windows without a boot screen and so this Mac with Windows will pull any game in full HD on high-ultra
@CaptainMaggs
@CaptainMaggs 3 года назад
Dude! Awesome Video! I'm so gonna build one of these to replace my aging 2011 iMac!
@DJBennyswift
@DJBennyswift 3 года назад
I just cleaned the dust off my Mac G5 2009 and looking to upgrade but need to do some more research on what I need to run Pro Tools and see if I can connect it to my 2017 iMac to use as a monitor. Need all the help I can get...thanks for such a great video!!!
@richardbutterfoss2353
@richardbutterfoss2353 4 года назад
Wow great presentation. I have 4 screens on mine. Gonna look inside. I didn’t see the chip down below. Thanks. RWB
@jamaxit
@jamaxit 3 года назад
Than you for putting this out there on RU-vid - just Subscribed! I just about have what you listed here - went with a Radeon R9 280X with the EFI mod🤕, 512 GB PCI OTW SATA dual 128GB RAID card, 48GB.....now I just need that $20 X5676 Westmere 6 Core and I will be all set! Thank you so much!
@deronbudy9279
@deronbudy9279 4 года назад
This is very very good value for money.. and i like to see more videos just like this one bcz i was recently bought 5,1
@BryanSnider
@BryanSnider 4 года назад
Fantastic Video Luke! I have a 2010, and was wondering if I could do this and you came up randomly on my suggested video and boom. Time to upgrade now :)
@getliquified
@getliquified 4 года назад
I always wanted one of these machines. Not sure what I would use it for but I'd love to have it in my collection!
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