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Ultimate Kiteloops. Episode II. Looping the kite in the air. 

Anton Chernyshov
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Kiteloop tutorial for intermediate riders. It is the second part of 3 which is dedicated to kiteloops and downloops with a jump. It's time to bring your surface kiteloop skills up there into the air!

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@bryanrutledge5222
@bryanrutledge5222 7 лет назад
Hard enough to be good at this stuff. Even harder to understand what the hell is really going on. And even rarer to have the talent to explain it. Then you've got to have time, help, and a ton of generosity to get to this point. Your it, Anton! Nothing else like this out there.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 7 лет назад
Really proud to hear that! I appreciate these words a lot. May be because of those reasons, you've mentioned above, I produce those vids so slowly) Sorry for that. But I still keep filming more for you. Thank you, Bryan!
@hank1900
@hank1900 9 лет назад
Best kiteloop tutorial on RU-vid. U are the best man!
@eugeq
@eugeq 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video, Anton, with great attention to details, explanation and step-by-step tutorial. Thanks a lot!
@romatou18
@romatou18 3 года назад
I've watched quite a few tutorials on loops including the Kite College one , that is usually great, but the tips on choosing the kite, the timing, and problems that can occur and how to fix them is just so clearly explained and easy to understand! Just the best tutorial!
@JelleSchot
@JelleSchot 9 лет назад
Excellent explaining and showing the preparatory steps! Beautifully supporting images: the board courses painted and the kite positions. Highly recommended!
@TimpeTuyt
@TimpeTuyt 8 лет назад
Finally a great instruction on how to loop. Especially the difference between downloops and kite loops in the beginnen was unclear to me! Stoked to try and practice all of this the coming weekend! Thanks man, appreciated!
@markusbroyles1884
@markusbroyles1884 4 года назад
I've been searching for a good instructor in these video lists and now I've found one ! I read all the comments and everyone else thinks so too. I don't know why I didn't see this 4 years ago ( subbed) ~ GO Anton you rock !
@Ludwighaffen1
@Ludwighaffen1 8 лет назад
A lot of info. Very clear tutorial. Well edited. Top job ! That helped me a great deal on the water. Thanks a lot for posting !!!!!
@tonyb8612
@tonyb8612 9 лет назад
The video is sick and well explained. darkslide is coming along!! Thanks again. :)
@ANIMAN7
@ANIMAN7 8 лет назад
Really great Anton. Just open your own kite school right now. You're the best teacher !
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Christophe Saint-Joanis Thanks, man) It's a pity that beginner lesoons are much more required now then the advanced ones! At the same time, I think that about 85-90% of riders nowadays need to go through some advanced kite clinics to improve their very basic skills!
@FeliciaWagenaar
@FeliciaWagenaar 6 дней назад
Excellent video again with so many good tips!! I watched it before doing my first heliloops with jumps this week and it was very helpfulll! Tnxx again:)
@jorkilrulezz
@jorkilrulezz 8 лет назад
Cant wait for megaloop tutorial! Everything gets so clear after watching your tutorials, great job!
@BisZwo
@BisZwo 4 года назад
same for me ! ... until I get into the water !! xD
@alxkoplan
@alxkoplan 8 лет назад
Антон, спасибо! Отличный клип, прекрасная работа! Ждем продолжений!
@spagi4
@spagi4 8 лет назад
I have to agree with the others, this is the best tutorial I have found so far. It has all the explanations that other videos lack. I already recommended it to multiple friends! Looking forward to more episodes. Speedy recovery Anton!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+spagi4 Thanks, man) It's always good to see a nice kite tutorial on the New Year's day) Hope to bring you more vids soon!
@tonyb8612
@tonyb8612 9 лет назад
Hey Dude, thanks for your instruction on the kiteloops.. great vid.
@firstaparamythist2028
@firstaparamythist2028 8 лет назад
Top tutorial, Anton. Thanks a lot.
@perikliszekakis3411
@perikliszekakis3411 9 лет назад
Great stuff! Can't wait to try all this!
@MrBigsTube
@MrBigsTube 9 лет назад
Great video's! Thanks for the effort.
@davidhope5293
@davidhope5293 9 лет назад
so so good well done Anton best kiteloop tutorial on utube !! looking forward to more :)
@goldsnuffer3234
@goldsnuffer3234 4 года назад
Love this series, really good at explaining and video's that go with the explanition are perfect. Thanks so much for posting these !!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 4 года назад
Thank you for your words, happy to hear, that my work helps! BR, Anton.
@kimmonkhorst
@kimmonkhorst 9 лет назад
Great tutorial with nice theory lessons :-) Best one out there! Nice spots btw in SL, I happend to be there this summer.
@danieledragone423
@danieledragone423 8 лет назад
best tutorial ever! you are the best kite instructor I seen...
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
Thanks for these words, man. I'm doing my best)
@julianandyvonne
@julianandyvonne 8 лет назад
Excellent work Anton. This is just what I needed. I've been slamming my face into the water way too many times. Now I know what I've been doing wrong. I've been looking for ages and haven't found a better explanation or progression steps. You've inspired me to start trying kite loops again. Keep up the good work Anton. :)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+julianandyvonne So glad, it was useful for you!! Yeah, keep trying, it's not only about megalooping! So much fun with soft loops and, more important, feeling of controlling your equipment better and better.
@Kewlus
@Kewlus 4 года назад
Excellent video! Thank you for making this. 🤙
@rvdnagel1963
@rvdnagel1963 8 лет назад
Thanks for the vid Anton! Great job and very usefull!
@rlmorrisphoto
@rlmorrisphoto 9 лет назад
This is incredibly helpful, thanks!
@stuartwebb7933
@stuartwebb7933 5 лет назад
What a great video. Thanks so much. No wonder I've been crashing my powered loops on the Cab.
@grigv.5205
@grigv.5205 7 лет назад
Great videos! One of the best there is online! Thanks for the info on different types of kites. It is very important to know if you can do the same tricks with different equipment and gear. Expecting more cool stuff from you! Thanks! Спасибо!!! Очень техничные видосы и как замечено никто не учит входить в петлю и выходить из нее. Это должно быть как с самолетом - входить в штопор и выходить из него.
@bolemio
@bolemio 8 лет назад
Congratulations!! By far the best kiteloop tutorial i have ever seen!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
Thanls! Can't wait to finish Ep III already. Unfortunately, was not lucky with the conditions this summer. But now, I hope to film the rest of footage finally.
@serbuh
@serbuh 9 лет назад
Excellent explanation! Just what I was searching for. With key points, geometry and very nice visual explanations. Perfect! Looking forward for the surface tricks tutorial video.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
Sergey Buhmanas Yeah, think I wil l combine high powered loops and surface trick in the next Episode. Darkslides, barefoot slides, one footer slides, Jesus walks are definitely my favorite ones, which I want also to share with you in the same step-by-step "keypoints high-lighting" manner)
@serbuh
@serbuh 9 лет назад
Already waiting, while training the kiteloops. "Keypoints" manner is an efficient approach:)
@aleksandrlukin565
@aleksandrlukin565 8 лет назад
can't stop watching your chanel! simple great job!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Alex Lukin Comments like this inspire me more than anything else) Thanks! Hope to bring you more interesting stuff within 1-2 weeks!
@andanh8
@andanh8 8 лет назад
best kiteloop tutorial video exist on this planet so far.Very good for someone intermediate want to go for a next advance level (a very frequent mega kitelooper).But slow and wide radius loop in medium 20knot wind is also another school or style for someone at advance level to progress.There so many tricks you can invent when your body being pull horizontal from these kind of slow wider kiteloops or S pattern kiteloops,long darkslide is one example. I wish you can cover these type of kiteloops on your next tutorial video.
@bigbarpermac
@bigbarpermac 9 лет назад
Great tutorials, very interesting info re the lifting and turning areas, thank you very much for going to the trouble to produce them. Looking forward to the jump perfecting video.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
+bigbarpermac Thanks! I'm working on the one, related to jump techniques now, think I will post it before Kiteloop Ep III. It's really important before moving on to high powered kiteloops.
@rejeantheberge73
@rejeantheberge73 9 лет назад
Very usefull video. Excellent explanation of the small details Thanks Anton
@zoltar99
@zoltar99 9 лет назад
Thanks Anton, really grateful for these videos, waiting for the next one, I have subscribed
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
zoltar99 Nice) Just spent several days at the surgery, now I'm back and hope to bring up some more interesting stuff for ya soon!
@dtj41
@dtj41 9 лет назад
Super informative; thanks!
@pixelpedro
@pixelpedro 8 лет назад
Best kiteloop series ever! keep the videos coming
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+pixelpedro Thanks. I'm producing them slowly, sorry, but couple of more are soon to be released. Thanks for your support!
@pixelloopy
@pixelloopy 8 лет назад
+Anton Chernyshov keep 'em coming, these are fantastic!
@mikhailzhitnikov3715
@mikhailzhitnikov3715 2 года назад
Simply the best!
@xristoforos1
@xristoforos1 8 лет назад
great work mate keep it up! !!
@skautik77
@skautik77 7 лет назад
Great videos, thanks for your effort !
@mieblock4856
@mieblock4856 6 месяцев назад
Love these videos. I disagree with one of your points though. I have found that sheeting in or out throughout the loop has a massive impact on the power of the loop. Learning this made the loop much more accessible to me in higher wind speeds.
@coopw101
@coopw101 9 лет назад
GREAT VID MAN.
@danielharel17
@danielharel17 9 лет назад
Awesome videos!! Really grateful!!!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
danielharel17 Thanks) Nice to hear that.
@aaronweissbart9325
@aaronweissbart9325 8 лет назад
Fantastic instruction! Thank you, Thank you, thank you!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Aaron Weissbart ) glad to make you a bit more happy!
@njelsslein361
@njelsslein361 9 лет назад
nice 1 mate!!!
@adriantagart3677
@adriantagart3677 9 лет назад
great video ! good very job guy !
@kitesurfpro6240
@kitesurfpro6240 3 года назад
Nice and clear explaination. Thank you
@TaaviIlves
@TaaviIlves 9 лет назад
Thank you! :) Already waiting for your next episode (Y)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
Taavi Ilves ) Still have something to say about loops, though have also more important topics on my mind....
@Trigenetic
@Trigenetic 8 лет назад
Excellent videos, thanks!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Trigenetic Trying hard to bake a fresh one for you
@lucasmacewan
@lucasmacewan 9 лет назад
awesome! Thanks dude!
@kolia_vn
@kolia_vn 4 года назад
Very very helpful !!
@nummerzweipunktnull
@nummerzweipunktnull 8 лет назад
perfect video
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
Thanks, Jelle, dtj41 and other guys, who found a minute to leave a response! Well, I hope that text part about different types of kites was not too boring, I was just trying to follow the requests, many guys were asking to explain that.
@darylkube3415
@darylkube3415 8 лет назад
Best tutorial on the kite loop and down loop I have seen great explanation along side of the Video demo. Daryl Kube
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Daryl Kube Thanks! I keep working right now to bring more interesting stuff for you. It takes a while though.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Daryl Kube Thanks! I keep working right now to bring more interesting stuff for you. It takes a while though.
@richzzzard
@richzzzard 9 лет назад
And keep up the good work!
@johnm1316
@johnm1316 9 лет назад
great video! could you do one about different boardoffs their timings and mostly how to easily get the board back on quickly. Thanks jn advance. again great video
@gpvirzi
@gpvirzi 8 лет назад
Hello, Thank you for your detailed explanation. Will you post episode III? It seems you still need to cover the High power kiteloop. Especially the launch part of the kiteloop. GP
@ryangunn7638
@ryangunn7638 6 лет назад
Excellent!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 6 лет назад
Thanks, man!!
@davecorning1210
@davecorning1210 8 лет назад
Really great video bud! Great job breaking things down, great examples, great illustrations, great explanations. Now, where's episode 3? :)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Dave Corning Yeah, Ep III will be there, I promise. I have some material, but my funds are running super-low, really hard to keep working. But you'll have Ep III soon, you have my word) I still have something to say about kiteloops. As well as about deathloops.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
Макс, да, изначально была такая мысль, делать все на двух языках. Потом что-то руки не дошли, как всегда. Да, сделаю в ближайшее время версию с русской дорожкой или субтитры. Звук-то делать не долго, только сложно все без запинок наговорить разом, я же не профессионал в этом деле)
@Jumagual
@Jumagual 8 лет назад
Great!!!! I got my first tries with kiteloops due to this tutorial!!! I am looking forward episode 3. When will be ready??
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Juanman Alemany Great, that you found it useful!! Yeah, I have material for Ep. III, but I will post another episode, dedicated to one very important topic first. Was filming it in October, now I'm trying to complete editing it....finally. Unf., I work on it alone, so I don't have enough time. Doing my best.
@dub6064
@dub6064 8 лет назад
Очень толковое видео! Спасибо!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Dub 606 Пожалуйста) Глянул видосик у тебя в канале, видимо наши вкусы сходятся) Даркслайд рулит) Жалко, что РПМ не очень подходит для таких "скользящих" фишек, уж больно в центре окна тянет! Хотя можно и подольше скользить, если не так быстро переводить его за зенит! Скоро видосик на эту тему сделаю. Октябрь - снимаю новый материал в Египте. Наконец-то....
@davidsicha314
@davidsicha314 Год назад
Hi, don't understand "one" think of the hellioop explanation. All the videos I've seen till now are speaking about jumping at last 10m (that is not a problem). Keeping kite on 12 and then parking the kite on 1 or 11, then loop the kite to helliloop, while still being high enough. From what I understand in this video is, that for helliloop I should keep my kite on 12, just before landing send the loop with my back hand to initiate the loop...no parking the kite, nothing. Is that correct? Thank you very much.
@adjacircidrao
@adjacircidrao 9 лет назад
GREAT TIPS... SHOWWWWWWWW
@grigv.5205
@grigv.5205 7 лет назад
Hi Anton. Can't find a video on how to do the bridles if they got damaged. And have no manual hendy. Don't know what length should they be relative to steering lines. If you can make a video about that I would really appreciate it! Thanks! Спасибо!!
@sebastienjurkowski
@sebastienjurkowski 6 лет назад
Anton, your videos are the most comprehensible. BTW im travelling to kalpitiya tomorrow morning ;)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 6 лет назад
Thanks! How is Kalpitiya? I saw the forecast, it was very good on those days. Have you caught any wind?
@sebastienjurkowski
@sebastienjurkowski 6 лет назад
Anton Chernyshov always windy , in vella :)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 6 лет назад
sebastien jurkowski Aa, Vella, of course) it's the best! Was it strong? Any 7m days?
@sebastienjurkowski
@sebastienjurkowski 6 лет назад
Anton Chernyshov , this time was 9m all the way. But Had some 35knots session in vella last year. I think this coming week will be strong . Cheers
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 6 лет назад
sebastien jurkowski thanks! Wishing you to catch some nice winds! )
@Maj000000
@Maj000000 9 лет назад
I watched ALOT of kiteloop tutorials but this is one of the best on youtube! Great video! Helped me in some way. Altho crashed some HP loops hard yesterday. When is your next video about HP loops? :)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
Maj000000 Glad you like it) Yes, there's gonna be Ep III with High Powered loops for sure right after I get some more footage on that topic, have a kite I like for that, but no chance to bring it all together for filming yet! Will do my best!
@Runner_SMR
@Runner_SMR 9 лет назад
Классное видео, все по полочкам раскладываете! не которые моменты не понятны по английски... Планируете сделать русскую версию?
@grigv.5205
@grigv.5205 7 лет назад
Макс Поздняков На русском тож хорошо, но ездя по миру придется общаться на английском и технический язык с нужной терминологией обязателен. Как раз тут его можно учить. Берите словарь или гугл и вперед. Иначе на иностранном не поймут о чем вы будете говорить.
@kimmeriets
@kimmeriets 8 лет назад
Понравилось. Ждем русскую версию, для расширения аудитории.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Kimm Eriets Добро, сделаю) Можно сказать, по многочисленным заявкам) Я думал, что вроде все понятно и так.
@kimmeriets
@kimmeriets 8 лет назад
+Anton Chernyshov Дал ссылку на ролик другу, но человеку без базового английского даже гуглперевод субтитров не помощник. Так что мне, пока что, даже обсудить ролик не с кем из своего окружения ;)
@goxita29
@goxita29 7 лет назад
excellent! thanks! need the soundtrack too. could you please tell me the band?
@martin4522
@martin4522 8 лет назад
Dude, loving the video! thanks for the information. when do you think you will post the third video for high powered kiteloops? I am comfortable with the lower powered kiteloops and can't wait to do high powered ones!
@martin4522
@martin4522 8 лет назад
P.S. your death loop video saved my ass last week :-)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Big Ginge Hi! O man, give me some details about accident you had, if you have time for that! Yeah, I'm filming more footage for episode III also now. Not so lucky with strong wind here in Philippines this season, but I'm doing my best!
@danielserfaty7128
@danielserfaty7128 6 лет назад
Rpm is wich tipe¿ i think is in the midle of both but grea for loops...
@richzzzard
@richzzzard 9 лет назад
Hi Anton, how is it going? When can we espect another great vid?
@tfaScream
@tfaScream 8 лет назад
Hi Anton, where can I find the next Episode for learning the kiteloop? It is a realy great tutorial!
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
Hi! I was really busy with filming and editing Learning to Fly video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s7qR1Bvo-D4.html, so now I will continue working on the ep. III of Ultimate Kiteloops. It's not so easy with filming and travelling for us here nowadays, man. But I really hope to film missing footage for kitelops ep III on our local spots in the end of August. So, around September it will be released, hopefully!
@tfaScream
@tfaScream 7 лет назад
Hi Anton, there is still no 3rd Episode of your great HowTo? Regards Patrick
@SDFSERG12
@SDFSERG12 8 лет назад
Good job
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
Thanks, man!)
@SammyC27
@SammyC27 4 года назад
but do i loop the kite forward, or backwards, that's always my (beginner level) confusion! is there an easy way to know?
@madsteeez
@madsteeez 3 года назад
I think what he said was it doesn't really matter. It's more important that the kite stays above your head mostly
@zoltar99
@zoltar99 9 лет назад
Hi Anton, hope you're feeling better, is next episode coming soon?
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
zoltar99 Hi! Yah, thanks, right now I'm recovering after a surgery and I really hope I can film more material I need for the next episode after couple of weeks (still have to stay out of the water for a bit more healing). At the same time I'm editing another one, dedicated to jump techniques now. Hope to bring them on soon, man!
@giu.kitesurf
@giu.kitesurf 4 года назад
Hi Mate, I'd like to translate your video to Portuguese ,"I'm from Brazil and a big fan of your hard work. We can put this subtitles on youtube if you let the opnion "Contribution from Community" enable at youtube plataform . It will reach more people to see your videos and able to buy your other videos. ! tks you
@justinsane4858
@justinsane4858 8 лет назад
Very good explanations. Where is the third episode?
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Justin Dane Sorry, was out of the game for a while with some medical issues. Will film material for Ep. III in October.
@justinsane4858
@justinsane4858 8 лет назад
+Anton Chernyshov Didn´t knew. Get well soon!!! Think we´re all looking forward to seeing the next one. I´ve seen a lot videos, but none explain it verbal and visual as good as yours.
@ABESuperKiteDay
@ABESuperKiteDay 8 лет назад
Amazing edit dude. Lot's of awesome stuff in this video. I had a go at making tutorials, I made a 1hour+ KLB tutorial. If you get time check it out dude and let me know what you think. I did not narrate the whole thing though, but it is subtitled. I think Ill just record my voice next time, it takes way too long to make subtitles. How did you edit your video? Did you record the audio and put it onto the timeline then added clips? I did it the other way round.
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+ABE SuperKiteDay Hey, thanks, man) Usually I write down the text I want to say, then do the cutting, when the video is ready, I record the voice. When cutting, I just keep in mind the timing, so the voice fits the vids. But sometimes I fail))) So I have to speak faster, or stop talking for a while) Yeah, I don't like subs much, people have to look down at the bootom of the screen to read them, so they can miss something important, going on in the video. Created a playlist for the first time for your video)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+ABE SuperKiteDay Hey, could you throw me your email to contact you?
@ABESuperKiteDay
@ABESuperKiteDay 8 лет назад
+Anton Chernyshov ok dude Ill PM you now.
@fillsandy70
@fillsandy70 3 года назад
Rebel is the gibrid
@RafaelkiteBR
@RafaelkiteBR 9 лет назад
nice man. episode 3? ^^
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
+Rafael Meira Yeah, ep III also planned! Still have something to say, but just need more raw video footage for it. Hope to film it soon!
@platriercube
@platriercube 7 лет назад
were is 3
@fillsandy70
@fillsandy70 3 года назад
Он как раз таки гибрид
@jasonkingstad3180
@jasonkingstad3180 8 лет назад
love all the videos, but where is ep 3 on how to do powered kiteloops and megaloops? haha instead you put up how to survive the deathloop...yikes...
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 8 лет назад
+Jason Kingstad I'm trying to "survive" hard times myself man. I'm just a poor surfer guy from Russia, I need time(on the distant beach), equipment (not falling apart) and good conditions to bring Ep III to you. I did my best to get to the spot, had a kite from my friend, but was not lucky enough to catch enough of good winds. So....Looks like it delayed until beginning of May, sorry folks.
@richzzzard
@richzzzard 9 лет назад
Again a great vid man! High quality, thanks. Could not wait for your tutorial and did my first jump and loop! > ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1sdLRmYKKQs.html Yesterday i did it again with 28 knots... wow wat a power and crasht.. now going to study your vid :-)
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
richzzzard Looks like you did a nice job! Regarding low wind and that super-long kite you're using it looks great) Looks like that kite has lots of pressure on the bar, what is the brand?
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 9 лет назад
Richard Brocks Just as I thought, a color scheme is a bit unfamiliar. I still have my Ozone Edge 11 2009 year...I guess, an oldie) Huge hangtime, though not the best one for loops) But I was learning how to kiteloop on the Ozone, heh)
@fillsandy70
@fillsandy70 3 года назад
Ребел нифига ни боу
@antonchernyshov8759
@antonchernyshov8759 3 года назад
Ну вроде бы традиционно гибридом называли цешки, у которых имелась некая расстроповка, которая шла вдоль баллона. Это были всякие озоны цэ4, нобили фифтифифти и т.п. У ребела (5ти стропного, старого) было все наоборот. Форма боу кайта, а строповка от цэ. Ну если только с этой точки зрения он гибрид)))
@fillsandy70
@fillsandy70 3 года назад
@@antonchernyshov8759 на эту тему можно спорить вечно)) соглашаюсь с тобой, чел
@fillsandy70
@fillsandy70 3 года назад
@@antonchernyshov8759 но остаюсь при своем мнении
@fillsandy70
@fillsandy70 3 года назад
Бля , он русский )))
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