OMG!!!!!! It was unbearable!!!! The S's had me thinking it was a knife going through my body. His raw footage didn't sound bad at all. It was pretty good. I just think he went overboard with the processing. Good mic testing format though.
I agree. That's way to much processing. And, why the need for the cloud lifter? The EV RE-20 and 320, and others are built for broadcasting and they just work right out of the box.
Hey from 2020! This video was extremely useful for helping me decide on the RE20 for my channel. I was highly debating on picking up the 320, but was worried about the sibilance. The RE20 sounded great even raw. Appreciate the comparisons!
I really like the Procaster for its price/performance (so much so I own one), but I also love the sound of the RE320 straight out of the box. Might have to add it to my collection at some point.
IMO the RE320 and Procaster sound very similar, BUT the Procaster has a lot more thump in the bass that can tire your ears quite a bit in the long run. The RE320's bass response does also have that thump, but it is bit more round and soft, which resembles Radio broadcast quality more than the Procaster. But, as far as bang for the buck goes, the Procaster stands on top.
even though I'm still pretty much a novice at audio engineering, I think your voice 'raw' sounds best with the RE320; You sound muddy on your Procaster and you sound a little flat on the RE20. on the process side I still think you sound more natural on the 320, both the RE20 and Procaster sound over processed.
Very good review, the RE320 is hard to beat for it`s price, IMO it`s the best bang for your buck at $250 NIB on Amazon, however they can be found in very good condition for less $$ on ebay
Personally the RE-20 is the best microphone out there still! I use it for my Podcast and my RU-vid videos my only complaint is this. My room is NOT unsound treated at all. With the Re 20 I can hear more of the hollow sound in my room, I can combat that with using a simple Shure 58. However I'm building a studio, so my RE20 is back on the boom.
Another great video. Thank you. I've just returned my Rode Procaster and I'll be buying the RE320. The Procaster needs much gain and with cheap equipment will put too much background noise. Also, sounds very crispy and not so good as the RE320. Of course, I would go for the RE20 instead of the RE320 if it wasn't for the price. But hey, RE320 sounds pretty good already!
RE20 is nice but not that much of a diff from the procaster! I bought the pro caster! Great buy for the price! I have the DBX 286s with my procaster and it sounds great. It does pic up air but I got a windscreen and it works out great.
I have been looking at them for a long time :D will probably pick up the RE320, since I also intend to buy a Zoom H4 and Rode NTG2 What Lav do you use?
I'm trying to convince my wife that I need the RE20 ;-) But honestly... I do. Can't imagine myself starting a serious podcast with anything else. Do you get better clean audio recording to the Scarlett than you do to a DR-60D ?
+BravingTheOutDoors I'm not sure which would get cleaner audio. It would come down to which one has the best pre-amps. But at that point, we're talking almost imperceptible levels of "clean".
Does the RE320 pick more background noise than the RE20 and the procaster, i live in a relatively noisy location where i can hear the traffic easily in my streaming room, which one serves best in my situation?
I was on a limited budget and chose the Rode Procaster thanks to this review. Can you share your processed settings or is it a matter of trial and error in the voicemeeter banana application?
I'm actually currently using a Shure SM58 and Steinberg UR22. Have really been considering grabbing a cloud lifter for it just so I'm not quite so near the top of my interface. From there not sure RE20, 320 and SM7B are all ones I've considered eventually getting.
I bought a used Procaster for about $150. I'm not very happy with the sound, just yet. I need to do some more experimenting. You really have to "talk past" the Procaster, rather than into it. The P-Pops are horrendous, if you don't. Even with the foam on top.
If not for buying a new mic, who would seriously endure 10 minutes of ear piercing vocals. Not only you made your own voice sound bad, you also make your viewers having a different perceived impression of the raw mic clips than being able to accurately hear and judge em. Because of the difference between your processed talking and the more neutral sample clips. Seriously, understand the range of human voice frequencies. There's a reason some of them so-called pod cast mics never even provide you information below 70hz and above 15khz to begin with.
I have both the RE320 and Shure SM7B going into the Cloudlifter CL-1 going into two DBX 286s' going into a DBX 266xs Compressor/Gate going into a Scarlett Focusrite 18i8. The audio quality is off the chain! I even use the Shure SM7B and the RE320 without a Cloudlfter CL-1 and the DBX 286s' still provided enough clean gain. Even without the Cloudlifter CL-1 I only had to turn the gain up on the DBX 286s up to only about +45db (75% turned up).
Sometimes I use it as a peak limiter. I don't always use the 266xs, just when I have guest that I know will elevate their voices to the extreme during the recordings. It works great as a limiter. I use the 266xs with my previously mentioned setup once in a blue moon however I find that my audio sounds even better when I use it (strange as that may sound). It is a trick to using the 266xs with my setup though. The DBX's (286s) expander gate reduces the quiets parts of the recording. So instead of turning it to the point of it making it quiet I turn it about half way and then allow the 266xs to reduce it even further. Doing it this way allows the quiet reductions to not be so harsh sounding when I have moments of silence in my recordings. Its works great. Its a trick I have used for two years now. It works. It allows the DBX 286xs to do some of the work and pass the rest off to the 266xs. So thats why I use the 266xs with my setup. It doesn't over compress. There are days in which I disconnect the 266xs and just use my RE320 and Shure SM7B going into the Cloudlifter CL-1 going into the DBX 286s' going into the Scarlett Focusrite 18i8. For my mobile podcasting I use the 266xs with my Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD and Cloudlifter. Sometimes I use my MDX4600 instead of my 266xs.
Actually had a question for you about the re20 and 320. I have gift cards for around 170. And have found the 320 for $299 and 20 for $399. I stream a podcast live so it's sounding like the 320 may be a better option due to it being great without any changes. Both seem quite good about no background noise. Planning on doing more research. Any thoughts?
320 is a good choice! Keep in mind you also need a good audio interface, though. Scarlett Solo rocks that. Or something like this mixer amzn.to/2aDZXXD
would the Focusrite 2i2 provide enough clean gain for any of these mics on it's own, without the cloudlifter? If not, are there any other good interfaces you'd recommend that can do the job well without the cloudlifter?
I think you will need more than the 2i2 to get clean audio. You can turn the gain up on the 2i2 however the higher you go with the gain the more background noise you are going to introduce. But you have three good options though. One, you can purchase a Cloudlfter and that will take care of you obtaining clean audio. Two you can just purchase the DBX 286s which has enough power to provide enough gain to a gain hungry microphone such as the RE320, RE20 and Procaster. Three, you can purchase both the Cloudlifter and DBX 286s. Using both of these will get you extremely clean audio at very low gain settings. I have the RE320 and the Shure SM7B going into the Cloudlifter CL-1 that goes into my DBX 286s' going into a DBX 266xs Compressor/Gate going into a Scarlett Focusrite 18i8. The audio quality is off the chain! I even use the Shure SM7B and the RE320 without a Cloudlfter CL-1 and the DBX 286s' still provided enough clean gain. Even without the Cloudlifter CL-1 I only had to turn the gain up on the DBX 286s up to only about +45db (75% turned up).
How do these mics work with mechanical keyboards? My biggest petpeeve is that the mic is picking up keyboard sounds when playing and streaming. I don't mind getting a bit more expensive mic if it can achieve this result. I've tried lots of mics and settings/configurations (currently have Blue Yeti and it is frankly horrible unless I have a specific uncomfortable setup), none has lived up to my expectations.
Random Polygons positioning is very important the rode procaster should be pretty good with mechanical keyboards if positioned right and a good noise gate
Hi I bought the same gear you have after watching your video, I cant get adobe premiere to see the focusrite, I go to audio hardware preferences and under default input , there is just the word no input, so I am wondering what you are doing right that I am doing wroing, Love your videos,
+BlitzShard Well, not improve the "Quality" per se, but would help with cleaner gain so you get less electrical noise and cleaner background noise pickup. But they're harder to configure with condenser mics, because condensers still require phantom power, which the pre-amp uses instead.
Damn man!!! 😲 Forget about the mics. What laviler are you using?!! That sounds more crisp and clear than these mics? LOL you are reviewing. I notice in other similar videos that the audio used in the review videos is better than the mic being Reviewed. Otherwise great video.
Everytime these comparisons come up I'm suprised how many like the re20. If it was an anonymous sound listen I feel like most would prefer the 320. The 20 just doesn't sound like an accurate representation of voice. I would rather handle any bass bump on eq.
As per my full review of the 320, the 320 is the best for just raw, out-of-the-box sound, which is nice. But if you're spending this much money on microphones, you're *most likely* going to have or be investing in kickass audio hardware to back it up. The RE20 provides a better sound to post-process, in software or with hardware equipment, which makes it better in radio/broadcast environments. For just your basement RU-vidr hooking it up to an interface, Babyface, preamp+mixer, etc. the RE320 is the better bet.
Totally, not a knock on the review, mostly just what I see in the industry with RU-vid, Twitch, Etc.... People buy the expensive mic, mixer, chair, etc as this status symbol when a nice re320 will do them perfectly for almost everything. Great review. Had to sign in with a different account to respond.
It's definitely a status thing for some. I virtually never recommend the RE20 unless the person really knows what they're doing or has the additional budget for a rack of audio hardware to back it up. Too often people want to throw money at mics when their problem is their recording environment or speaking skills.
Surely, I can't be the only one who thinks the processed RE20 audio sounds significantly more compressed than the others, eh? Otherwise great comparison bro!
I've looked up some specs, and I don't think "more information" is entirely correct. Don't get me wrong, I'm no expert, but here's my take: The RE320 has a brighter sound and higher output in part because of the neodynium magnet, and in part because of the thinner diaphragm. The thinner diaphragm should give the microphone a faster transient response, which could explain why the RE20 sounds "smoother" in general. It's as if the RE20's bass response is slower, like it hangs around for longer, giving the impression that it's more consistently "there". In terms of capturing more information, based on these design differences, I would argue that the RE320 captures more information like an SDC would capture more information than an LDC. Yea, it's technically more information, but sometimes reducing the information in the signal is conducive to a smoother, more desirable sound. In the end, the RE20 is a product of its time, like many other sought after microphones. It sounds the way it does because of the limited technology it was designed with, but like a tube amp for guitars or a ribbon mic, it has a certain zing that modern mics that sound better, judging by the tech sheet, just don't have. If I find any concrete answers, I'll be sure to mention them when I get around to reviewing my own RE320, but I have a slew of other microphones I wanna talk about first, and my RE320 isn't going anywhere anytime soon (love this damn thing, only recently replaced it as my desk arm mic because I came across some dirt cheap used Rode Broadcasters). Keep up the good work Adam!
If you would use the cloud lifter on the Procaster as you did with the RE320 I believe you would get the same punch from the Procaster as the RE320. Its unfair to use the cloud lifter on the 320 and and not the Procaster and say the Procaster does not have the same punch as the 320.
Cloudlifter does not affect color only clean gain. 5 years later having used it with much better audio hardware since, the results and my opinions still stand
@@EposVox Ok I stand corrected I guess. But let me ask you why did you not use the Cloud Lifter for the Procaster in the review? Really curious.. Thanks
@@EposVox Please do a review because no one has that I can find about the Procaster and the cloud lifter with the CL and without the CL. Reason is I an looking to buy the Procaster and was wandering if I needed to spend the extra cash also to buy a Cloud Lifter or a Fethead. To my knowledge no one on line has addressed this. I know the RE320 needs a CL but I do not know if the Procaster needs it or not..
@@EposVox Ok Is it because your interface uses Phantom power because I think Im not sure but I think that a Cloud Lifter and Phantom are the same thing am I correct?. did your interface use Phantom with the Procaster. If not have you ever heard of any one using Phantom Power with the Procaster
I recorded my tests w/ the 2i2, but I had just gotten the 2i4 in for review and it was the easiest thing to shoot since my 2i2 was buried deep in my setup lol
Why do you need a pre-amp and an audio interface??? I thought the audio interface had a pre-amp in it? Fuck this shit, man, I thought I had this audio shit figured out!
It does, but these mics require much higher-end pre-amps than can generally be provided by cheap audio interfaces. Once you get to the 75%+ range on the gain knob on an interface pre-amp, it starts to be less clean.
I could buy the most expensive microphone in the world and my voice still wouldn't sound like yours. The voice leaves my head as a cross between James Earl Jones and Jeremy Irons, and it comes out somewhere between Mickey Mouse and Pee Wee Herman. Thanks for the video. I live next to one of the busiest roads in Houston. The RE20 looks like I would save hours of noise reduction editing.
Lol no I've never once cut myself opening a box and I had that Cloudlifter for almost 2 years prior to this video. Probably an eczema issue or a bad cat scratch
I appreciate the video but quit trying to sound like a DJ and just talk. Nobody on the radio delivers like that any more. It's called "puking" and it's not cool. It's just kind of annoying.
I am experiencing the same issue with noise as these users are experiencing. Anyone else experiencing it on RE 320 www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-3275683/microphone-buzzing-noise-interference-possibly-caused-gpu.html
No you can't - you have to assign them to a spot in the video, which you can't do while it's uploading. Or if you can, that's a relatively brand new feature. And this uploaded from Vessel, so I had no control on that.
