Ultimate Royce Gracie: Final Fight 

And they fought bareknuckles

Man I loved all of it excpet the kick in the groins.

UFC back then was just a marketing tool to promote Royce selected fighters they could counter

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You Wish same

Lmao

FAMÍLIA GRACIE PORRA

Hahahahaah

bro this shit had me dying 😂

lmao and I thought you were exaggerating

Honda beat him, and Chun-li, jaja for sure

I agree. It was like something out of blood sport. Unique style vs. unique style. It's kind of lost it's allure in a way. For instance if you have 2 brazilian jiu jitsu world champions fight - the fight can often just turn into a D level kickboxing match because neither wants to be on the ground with the other (same with 2 wrestlers who can't take each other down). Or you have 2 fighters with essentially all the same jack of all trade talents and nothing stands out.

Absolutely agree. The UFC of old was amazing back then, where style and technique reigned supreme.

Pulling hair does not make you a legend

Yeah as soon as he wasn't allowed to wear the gee in ufc he did nothing but lose,

This was before Muay Thai was popular, the literal counter to the clinch.

There were a lot of rule created to favor the Gracie's. There tons of info on it on RU-vid.

It's the art of fixing the fights so you don't get your head kicked in. Fake champ.

@@op8995 Back in the days when Royce Gracie dominated there were 3 rules 1. no eye gouging, 2 no blows to the groin, 3 no biting. Which of these were "created to favor the Gracies"?

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Chloranthy ring and grass crest shield help alot. 😁👍

Kimo had a "cross tattoo" before cross tattoos were cool. :)

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Yes. For sure

Rofl lol

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Comment of the century...🤣🤣🙈🙈

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Kimo couldn't even tap. It was a verbal submission to big John. Royce had is elbow hyperextended underneath his hips. If Kimo didn't give up he would have broken his elbow.

Howard turned out to be so rubbish Gracie could have fought in the condition he was in and still won.

@@redrum4100 Absolutely true. Howard later went on to lose his mind and get arrested for assault and threatening his family. Crazy.

@@maxxxmodelz4061 And totally bottled it the moment he was on his back in the final, so would have instantly tapped with Gracie taking him down.

@@redrum4100 Did you see his one other MMA fight outside the UFC? OMG he was horrible. Tapped to strikes and looked like a fish flopping around out of water. Granted his opponent was a monster grappler, but Howard claimed to have invented a type of defense against ground fighting and was supposedly the Ju-Jitsu champ of Canada. LOL

He was a cheating bitch, but pretty good. People today are so much better, but without him and his dad it wouldn't be the same.

By pulling and holding hair 😂

@@CapFlipGaming Cope He was just that good keeping crying

I miss the early days of mma when the Gracie family and bjj had a mystique . Nowadays everyone knows everything so the magic is gone

Man those looked painful

early UFC was uncharted era in fight sports..and yes i agree those were the golden years

"Golden years" stfu. This is trash. You'd seriously rather seeing guys get randomly kicked in the balls and have their hair ripped out and permanently damaged than watch technical battles in a sport with RULES that seek to encourage professional displays of martial arts rather the street fights? Stfu. "Golden years" my fucking hairy nutsack. The golden years are now.

@@MrCholoPants3415 You are right. You were still in nuts, when this sport emerged.

@@MrCholoPants3415 the appeal of ufc in those days was it's similarities to real street fights different people from all walks of life with different capabilities allowed to do practically anything so stop being a snowflake and enjoy the golden years

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Kenji314159 kek 😂😂😂😂😂

Josef Lanz This guy has no clue.

amen

Everyone has their cross to bare.

Ahhh Christians. The clueless.

@@arisn32 says one world yoga 🤣

Because is 1993 different rules those times I mean almost no rules.

This was the greatest fight in the world. It's been almost 30 years and I haven't seen anything close to this fight.

Oh dude yeah..ok yeah not going at it with a mouth gaurd was asking for broken bones. actually look up UFC 1 tayolor willi a yokazima (the tittle not wrestler) vs Gerard Gordeau. because that's what happend, along with a few broken teeth.

@@gorkskoal9315 that was a great kick....Gracie submitted that guy fast in the final that year.... And he took care of Ken shamrock fast as hell in ufc 1

@@1234qwer1002 lol yeah...and because of how those two went at it: 60 minutes of crickets, just circling the ring, we now now have things like: forced stand up and do something. and time limits.

hahahhahaa totally

Didn’t seem like actually fighting with the pussy shit like hair grabbing groin shots and more

Watching all of this on RU-vid looks absolutely crazy. Injuries happened all the time, groin shots, kneeing in the ground. Wild.

@@gamerepic4760 That's what ACTUAL fighting is. You can call it pussy shit, but you'd do it too if someone attacked you outside of an octagon. I'm not critiquing UFC for protecting it's fighters, but you're not a pussy for being smart.

@@gamerepic4760 It's the opposite, fighting ain't supposed to have any rules. The UFC is combat sports, not actual, real, fighting. Fighting is what people do on the street, with eye piercing, head kicking, weapons, groin kicks, hair pulling and so on. Back then the UFC was closer to being fighting since it has fewer rules. Nowadays it's closer to a sport.

Hahaha

Ya dude maybe 14. If he was 5 he'd be looking like phil heath or dorian lmao.

Yeah, not a chance.

@@wesrobertson8753 lmao no.... he's at least 20% here. At 14 you would at least have an outline of abs.

Depends dorean used to go down to 2.5-3 after that skin callipers were not that efective so he didnt know to where he went down

It's the best of all time. he shows what Gracie's want to show. BJJ is superior than other Martial arts. Today we have all kind of fighters in UFC: boxer, may thay, karate, judo, Wrestling, russian wrestling... but all fighters practice BJJ.

@@andreivieira *it's funny how he talks about ufc history and it's only their third event. A bit premature, don't you think??*

@@robertwhite uh, i think its because ufc was created by his old brother

@@andreivieira that's not the point i was trying to make though.. ahahahahaha.. 🤣😂🤣. You can talk about history if something has been around for a while where you can actually make a big comparison. Its like telling your kid that his third birthday is the best birthday ever and he just celebrated it. Lol.. i understand if you dont get it. Ahahahahaha

@@andreivieira Technically doesn't Khabib do Sambo? I don't actually know

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Moral of fight:"Dont jump into a fight with long hair."

That's crazy. UFC sure has changed

@@hell-bringer lol so like what having a temper tantum and try to bribe refs because your school foot part of the bill is better? Personally despite my experience with tachi and kick fighting say: don't jump into a fight, carry a tazer, and just give someone that wants to fight you a smil with a legit (sounding at least) compliment. has worked so far. lol I genuinely hope I never need to use what ever skills I have. lol that or just piss my pants and go oookay this is going to suck. Mmmm that right hook of ...was that blackshirt, or small tits that kicked my dick and where's my spleen?

No he didn't. Lol he forfeited after this fight because of exhaustion. 5 minutes caused him to be overly exhausted. Overrated as hell.

i watched this live!! Yes he did.

silversugafish matthew Against an opponent that outweighed him by 80 lbs. Not something you could do I'm almost willing to bet mucho dinero against.

John Hall Clearly you had taken too many drugs that night then. Harold Howard got a bye in the semis due to Royce not being able to fight due to fatigue.

silversugafish matthew He did fight a 36 minute one round fight 7 months later, So either he fixed the problem quick smart (not a sign of being overrated) or it was just a bad night.

Absolutely one of the greatest fights in MMA history!

@@charliecox7574 don't be unreasonable these guys had balls and deserve all the respect but most of the fights from those days are a joke

@@n.n.5286 hahahah. True. They were pretty bad. Gracie was the exception. Some of those clowns like Keith Hackney and that fat dude yardbury or whatever. Fuckin' comic show.

@Siedler Joe And? Are you kidding me? There are only 3 rules. So basically Kimo got his ass kicked cuz he got his little hair pulled. Awww poor baby. Like a little girl.

@Siedler Joe Nah, you got it mixed up pal. So your saying this big 250 guy got beat up by a little girl move. Got it. If you get your ass beat cuz someone pulled your hair you are a fuckin' pussy. Its that simple.

Pulling the opponet's hair is a great skill.

that was a bitch move

@@tedgregersenvalasko2375different times man don’t forget the groin kick

HAHAHAH i was thinking the same joke when i saw that huge cross

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kkkkkk good one tho

hahaha

@Thrasymachus Monk i call that a obama and sometimes michelle obama.

It's also easy to run thru people that think they know how to fight vs going thru say 3 or 4 Ken Shamrocks.

@Fluke I actually think he was over hyped and he wasn't pure jiujitsu like they claim. According to some of the announcers and other employees, the gracies rigged the ring. By that I mean tried to pick and choose who they fought, to boost their agenda.

I agree. Most of the Gracie family members are "still dangerous". It's just that MMA has evolved dramatically since the mid-1990s. The Gracies might not be able to beat "top-ranked MMA fighters", but that doesn't mean that they're anything to be taken lightly. In fact, many of the Gracies "train" the baddest MMA fighters on the planet, which makes these competitors as formidable as they are. Rener and Ryron Gracie "tap out" SWAT team members and Special Forces soldiers. The majority of guys who "think they're tough" wouldn't stand a chance against an unarmed SWAT officer or elite soldier, much less a typical Gracie family member.

Fluke this is true, and when Rorion lost control they got out.

Royce ended up completely on his last legs, completely exhausted, battered and bruised. But that armlock was the key.

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statingjake yea same and still people think turd dean is better

Yep. McCarthy is definitely one of the best referees ever in MMA.

statingjake Not the start, UFC 1 had a different referee.

statingjake actually he came in at ufc 2

and he had to wear a gi

+Thehanx Yeah, 100 lbs weight difference was the clincher on this. Royce lost the next fight after this one because Kimo had thrashed him.

+Anything Ordinary yeah he could grab his gi

+Thehanx if only it was just a hair grab lol

+8digitPDX Who did he fight next? I'm trying to go back and watch these fights.

And I loved how Royce would rest on his opponents during long ground battles, staying as relaxed as possible, exerting only minimum required energy. Harrison does the same thing, and in a battle of attrition, having even slightly better leverage than your opponent over time will become a bigger and bigger advantage.

@@itinerantpoet1341 most boring shit ever

Yeah and used that reinforced ghee as a weapon...cheat

Yeah, he reminded me of a spidermonkey, the way he'd just sling himself around and always seem to slip out of everything. But considering the way he was pulling hair here, he probably had his body greased with Vaseline under the gi, doing all the dirty tricks that those people do.

legend my ass he was a shit fighter and the gracies ran the ufc back then to promote their style

@@Stemlok lmao "shit fighter" as you can see he dominated those years and this was truly "as real as it gets" You can thank this "shit fighter" and his family for not only bringing MMA to the US but also for making the ground game so respected. Please go ahead and log off.

Royce wouldn’t survive in today’s UFC. All the hair pulling and grabbing his rope to lock up guys is straight bs. A lot of what he did would be illegal today.

@@Coach_Kaltenecker No shit. This match was as real as it gets. You were allowed to do anything but eye gauge. You can still thank his family for bringing BJJ to the US.

@@Coach_Kaltenecker but it's okay that kimo is on roids and how much more heavier you think he is over Royce? Royce had to find a way to survive and he did that against any opponent. So stfu and sit down

ALL GIRLS PULL HAIR WHEN THEY FIGHT LMFAO

Noel Carvajal lol the only reason

If i know hair pulling is legal im going bald with coconut oil rubbed on

By that time almost everything was legal in UFC. The only illegal was fingers into opponent's eyes and kicking his nuts. Everything else was legal

@@cesar0610 King the nuts was legally. Gracie actually kneed Kimo in the nuts a couple of times here.

Yup. They mastered the ground when every other martial art ignored it. Wrestling is the best at going from the feet to the ground but once on the ground they have really bad habits and have no way of ending the fight.

Wasn't necessarily inevitable, if he supplexed him when he grabbed him from behind then he could'v won. Alas it was how it was, both Royce Gracie & Kimo went out like proper fighters.

MAYBY IF HE WASN'T ROIDED!!

@@dustin9367 Stop whining about roids. You know how many people take roids but are weak as hell, can't fight, have very little strength, so many. Roids don't give you this ability at all, no ability to fight. Some of you people just know nothing about athletics and roids. He wouldn't exactly be the same without roids, they are helping his strength, but he would still give royce a tough fight without them for sure. You don't even know he's on roids either. Go to a very very serious gym, and you'll see several guys not on roids bigger and stronger than Kimo here. He likely was on roids though, I can't say I would trust Kimo to make everything fair, but at the same time Royce is pulling hair, which is legal, but just the cheapest most BS move there is. I just wouldn't complain about this fight, that's all i'm saying.

deontay wilder could have learned a lesson from this lol

@@GhostMonkey772 lol

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Dude could have been carried to that octagon, he was going to tap regardless.

Lolol super mini tap

Lazy taptap

Must have been a more exhaustion tap. If it really hurts you will tap much more emphatically lol

Very discret, and private...meaning: "now I know, you're the man!!" Lol

Hahahaa baby tap

That was not skill. He literally was flailing around like a fish and pulling hair like a bitch. And this yall hero ok.

William Drumgoole ok

@@EllTorn He died

@@OfficiallyWill martial arts are for self defense in street fights, not scoring points you little pussy.

True besides the savagery of the early fights the fact that a 190 soaking wet with work boots that isn't cut could just lay on his back and beat these beast like men added to the appeal

Id say 10-12%

No, with 10% you have a totaly defined sixpack and veins all over. This guy doesn't even have visible abs.

ripppking i'd make it 18 or more. when u have as much muscle as kimo u have to have a significant layer of fat to not show any ab definition.

not necessary. check boyer coe, how much ab definition did he have? 0

Ro man 18 is to much maybe 14 the highest google what the percentages look like

Royce Gracie The most envious of others having hair of all time

Luke Thomas every body start it learning bjj after UFC 1 so that’s why some people knew some moves

The announcer brought it up - apparently he had been training at a Gracie gym.

Those are also basic wrestling skills though

That’s only because he had a good 70 to 80lbs on Royce. It does not matter if the smaller guy is a black belt or not. If he’s fighting a guy in street fight who outweighs him by that much, he’s gonna struggle before he finishes him. It’s not gonna be a walk in the park

@@warmkaril1 no its judo armbar

I had heard of many forms of jui jitsu even brazilian in the late 80s. It was not as uncommon as you think. Emperors jiu jitsu had ground fighting and ground submissions so did nin jitsu. BJJ Just focuses on it as the overall goal while limiting the kicking part of it.

This jui-jitsu which is the bastardized spelling of word "Jujutsu" (look at the meaning of the Japanese words) is Judo. In fact it is just the newaza component of Judo without any of the tachi-waza components. Judo newaza and Brazillian newaza are the same thing, using the same techniques the only thing that's different are the rules. In fact for me it's almost impossible to tell where traditional (Kosen) Judo ends and brazillian newaza starts. I do a jujutsu style that has a heavy nage waza focus and also newaza elements you know the armbars, leglocks, strangles and other osaekomi elements so I don't understand why you think this changed accepted paradigms in human combat especially when you consider the Gracies where beaten by a Japanese wrestler, granted one trained in judo techniques, but, still a wrestler.

I don't remember ever mentioning modern Judo - but seeing that you have - all that Judo has to to is change one rule to allow newaza to be primary form of attack and submission ala Kosen Judo allowed back in - reverse the stance or outlawed techniques to stop newaza (which are still taught in Judo classes that I've been involved in) and tada you have Japanese newaza that the same as Brazillian newaza using the same techniques with different names.

I've never seen omoplatas or even knee bars in Judo tournaments.

You will have to be more specific when you say armbar are you referring specifically to the juji gatame or some other form of armbar? I think the Huzinga Roll could be classified as a "omoplata". And the Sankaku garami IS the omoplata.

The annoying part though is since everyone knows bjj now submission finishes are very hard to get

Whats 240-185? It's 55. Not 80

@@stefanvitali7616 I watched the video again and before they start the fight they say Kimo was 250 pounds not 240 and Royce was 176 pounds not 185. So it's 74 then.

It's rigged in ufc 1 there's a boxer with one glove against Royce the only reason why he had a glove is to well put padding on his hand because imagine getting punched in the face by let's say tyson you'll get knock out in one punch therefore it's was rigged

@@vs_nasty1305 It was rigged because the boxer had one glove? There were several fighters who went without gloves and also he probably did it because that is how he was trained.

I don't see horse and lance.

Medieval tournaments were waaay more organized than this clusterfuck Lmao

The closest we'll ever get to gladiator fights.

Yeah for real no gloves at all

Puxou o cabelo do Kimo!

@@tedgregersenvalasko2375 Royce venceria Jon JOnes em uma luta de MMA?

​@@brunoricardo2133Jones é categorias muito acima, mas em uma luta de glapping o Royce venceria.

lmao ikr

+Isaac Bell OhhhhYea, one person agree with me :)

I can't deny the truth

He would've won if Gracie wasn't pulling his hair like a bitch

+Jack Young I think so. his way is like a girl.

The hair is a good handle, and in a fight it should be taken advantage of. I have won a couple of bar fights with long haired opponents using the leverage of their hair to steer them around.

Does that count for the hog too?

@@richardstaccone1927 then your a pussy if you can't win a fight without grabing someone's hair

@@JDJD-mw9rr social conditioning really worked well on you didn't it lol

JD JD, You may be right, so if you ever fight me get a short haircut first.

gracie was such a cheesy fighter puaj

@@misterasterisco5217 that first punch he thruw looked like it was in slow motion must of been the slowest punch in history.....

And Gary Busey.

@@fireball8767 Lmao ikr, shit took a full second to become fully extended 🤣

@@RicegumRicebum he had time to have his dinner

Troll

Good question, mr1001nights. I just take this as just another one of many data points corroborating the fact that there are no gods, and that belief in them doesn't do anybody any good in the long run. This is not totally conclusive, of course -- but I personally find the comparative track records of belief and nonbelief pretty convincing.

I'm not a christian, but I think that Christ wouldn't be interested in this kind of circus and have his name tattooed in some crazy ass guy's belly. Stupid fuckers like this only make their religion look bad.

Wow, Bobby Fischer, what an honour. I really like your chess wizardry. I thought you died in 2008. But seriously, I don't think a tatoo can make religions look any worse as they present themselves considering past atrocities and present scandals.

Chasing Bobby Fischer.

LOL

It’s Vale Tudo. You can kick in testicles, punch without gloves, pull hair, etc.

I agree. They could have moved even closer to a street fight if "street type" clothing was required. Topless fighting isn't natural as most people out there wear clothes.

@Grant Smith Literally everyone back then was on peds

Dont need to. Everyone knows that people back then used peds because they weren't ever caught

@Grant Smith possibly

Weak ass fucking fight casual

What rules lmao. It was just "you can do anything you want - you can even eye gouge bite but you'll be fined after if you do those 2 things"

That's awesome. I watched this on VHS as a kid at a friend's house. I was hooked on MMA after that.

I remember being in the Navy and word getting around about This "Hoyce Gracie" guy. So I bought the fight for the barracks and learned his name is spelled with an R and that he was not the biggest guy in the world. Him and Oleg Taktarov were the best little guys in the sport.

Same here, saw it live with a friend named Shane in Waco Texas. That was a crazy year for me but good times.

spiderman< the weirdest fighers was back in the days... jesus christ figher hahahaahahahahha

OMG, didn't you know anyone that was selling de-scrambler boxes?

It’s Vale Tudo. A Brazilian fight system which everything is allowed. It was made to simulate a street fight.

Hell Yeah..looks like 20%

@@dhruvishkapadia350820% is a little high. He is certainly closer to 20% than 5% though. I would put him around 15%.

James Reese 5% can be fatal wtf

15% body fat with ROIDS. LOL

@@Poseidon_43 what? 4% body fat Lex Luger would disagree.

Sempre irmão, sempre 🇧🇷

Br aqui irmão

Não

Sempre

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fucking LOL!

I actually just loled

OUT OF THE RING! OUT OF THE RING! OUT OF THE RING NOW!!!

hahaha my first thought when I saw him so young was nearly the same as this.

there were rules and they were rules that greatly helped royce gracie, though he is still one of the greatest fighters ever.. rules like no eye gouges and no biting.. literally the most effective tools against grappling. lol.

whatever us ay promo account. your boy Gracie got rag rolled

@@Dualitiesdude. Kimo was almost 80 lbs heavier than him. The fact he agreed to do it is insane. Most people would get tossed around fighting someone 70 lbs heavier. Gracie did amazing still, despite the weight difference

Jalando el cabello como señorita jajajaj

ESO ERA VALE TODO TODO POR ESO EL OPONENTE LE TENIA MUCHO MAS PESO, PESANDO MAS DE 200 LIBRAS Y EL.SOLO 178 LIBRAS , HOY EN DIA NO HAY ESAS PELEAS ASI PORQUE ERA TIEMPO CORRIDO SIN DESCANSO DIGNO SE ADMIRAR Y SI HOY PREGUNTAS A LOS GRANDES CAMPEONES DE LAS MMA TENDRAS LAS RESPUESTA DE ADMIRACION, RESPETO Y SIEMPRE SERA UN GRAN MAESTRO Y ESO NO LO DIGO YO ES UN ECHO Y SALON DE LA FAMA DE LA MMA

Came to the comments section after I saw that thinking "surely someone had to address that blatant lie."

Juan Garcia Lol yeah...i cant even believe they said that, at least keep it within 5% + or - , but this dude is like 15-20% BF

Hkl

nah not 20%, maybe around 12%

Sujit Sharma I'm gonna say 15%

That's what actual martial arts street fight would look like.

But now we have better fighter and not powered with steroid

Fuck that. The oponent of gracie is just having a clean fight. Gracie dirty fighter. Even the referee is on gracies side.

@@inspiredwork-in-progress2595 grabbing hair was legal you melon

@Living Dead Guy dude see weight difference please try fighting a guy twice ur size once

@Living Dead Guy Yes, no rules, no weight classes. It's a bitch move to pit someone who's 240 LBS against someone who's 170 LBS. If there's no rules, anything goes. If you want "bitch moves banned," you should watch something that has more rules in it.

@Living Dead Guy Bro idk why you keep plugging up my RU-vid feed, my point was is that you seem to be criticising "a bitch move" in a "bitch game." As I said it's a bitch move to pit someone who's like 30 kg heavier than you against you. That's a bitch move. You have so much more mass and leverage that it's not really fair.

Ah yes the good old days of watching ufc on vhs

Why not get UFC fight pass? Very cheap and you can watch all the old tapes on demand

@@Gorrgrim Good call!!!

Its very easy to have total control of the situation when there are like 5 rules and one of them is not to bring a ak47 to the fight

"that ref"

"Big" John McArthy, you mean.

@@hamdiatasoy2456 Big John back in the day.🙏👊

Matt Burns you must be new here lol

he forget to add 1 in front of 5

They hype up tales of the tape. Plus it ain’t like they were there with calipers to call him on it. He probably just told them.

Well he's Hawaiian so we can give it to him considering those people and how fat they get but I bet he's like 600 today

Around 10 ,at 15 you start to look fat

Yo..... facts👊

Well ya, when he's your father?...

Lol

wtf lol

haha

Says the guy who tested positive for 25 times the normal amount of nandrolone found in the average human male. Also, acne doesn’t necessarily mean steroids.

@@Bucketheadhead that only makes him more able to speak about it. No judgment tho, it was completely permited back in the days to take whatever in UFC, leveled competition.

luiz felipe moreira paulin It makes him a hypocrite. He was fined and banned until the end of his license. Hardly ‘legal’.

@@Bucketheadhead zzzzz he uses steroids, hur dur, he is bad man!he is not saying he beat the guy clean, nor that he doesn't took steroids in his life.just that he kimo took a lot of steroids and that he beat him anyway. and when he fought Kimo there was no anti-doping whatsoever. stop watching karate-kid, most of those guys use whatever they can get their hands on and not get caught.

luiz felipe moreira paulin Hur dur, he is hypocrite, learn to read

If you listened at the end, kimo DID trained in gracie bjj but not obviously at Royces level

XD

Hahahahahaha

The muscle is stressed continuously whether it's a full or half rep. Newb.

+MrSilus2000 yeah so someone doing as many full reps wont be stronger. #liftinghacks ...jk. gtfo

+MrSilus2000 That's a bodybuilding trick, these guys are athletes

Are you talking about Rorion maybe? I met Royce years ago and was eye to eye with him and I'm 5'11.