Buy the tarp here. amzn.to/3szW1Nc You never saw this pitch: fully enclosed pyramid. Papa hiker shows how to use a tarp as shelter for survival, bugout, bushcraft and ultralight.
I've just got back from a week in the Victorian Alps, and used this pitch several times. It stood up well through two thunderstorms and 20mm of rain, keeping me and my gear nice and dry. Thanks for teaching it to me!
This is REALLY great! I am 6'2" and need a long shelter... I set this one up with the awning, shifted the pole to the side and now have way more space than my ultralight tents. THANKS Mr. P.H. 😊
just an affirmation Papa Hiker. I am a hunter in NZ, travelling and camping mostly above the bushline and using all lightweight gear, including a home-made dyneema tarp. I use a variety of pitches depending on the terrain and the weather situation and your enclosed shelters, esp. the arrow head are my 'go-to' enclosed options. You explain these very well and any nan-sayers on here need to know these work in the alpine situations of NZ, where weather is a big factor to staying safe. When using an enclosed set-up in high winds you can loop some cord around the exterior of the pole head to keep the pole in contact with the support should the tarp billow . . .and even put tie-outs to the pole inside the shelter. As you keep commenting . . . the tarp is so versatile and this is the fun of creating something that works! People appreciate your videos, from as far away as Nieu-Zeeland. '
Thanks so much for putting these vids together. As a fellow six-foot plusser, I didn't think enclosed pitches would be an option for me, but this looks like it will work a treat. Looking forward to giving it a try!
Hey man, i really appreciate the time you put in making these vids, very helpfull! It may be worth noting that by changing the distance of the pegs you can adjust for different lengths of pole. I can make it fit my peddel, which is great if you go canoing...
I purchased a tarp today, it will arrive in a few days. It's 3m×3m, has all the tie outs UV protection and waterproof. Oh and its blue. Can't wait to work on the pitches I've seen you do. But you'll be there with me as I'll have cellphone in hand
@@tiltil9442 Yeah, I thought of that. But I always have the option of ventilating along the bottom, or opening up a corner. But you're sure right about the condensation.
I have a Tatonka Tarp Pyramid Cocoon tent with a 180cm pole and a separate floor, this has the best of the tarp pyramid design and is extremely versatile.
Yes, watched that on too. I like how you template the setups on paper first. Makes the actual outside setup easier to understand. Maybe you might have an idea or two for tarp setup while bikepacking ( note bike not back). I have a DD 4x4 tarp for the extra room.
+davegehr. Hi Dave, a 4x4 would give you plenty of options where you use the bike as a pole. Also good against theft! Hey, a 4x4 could sleep an entire wolf pack. You can make a trapezoid pyramid so large that the bike could go inside, but also a modified a frame aka Holden tent comes to mind. Or a Toque Tent if there is a large tree.
Thanks PH, yes the 4x4 is a big one. We also use the tarp to shelter us and our two greyhounds and friends with greyhounds whenever we go to an event, so it needs to be big. And, I'll try those setups you suggested and see which will work best when bikepacking. Great channel by the way!
@@papahiker9014 enjoyed doing all your no tree tarp pitches. Can I challenge you w/ doing 1 of your strong tarp set up from an open "summer " setup to transform to a Typhoon proof set up in less than a 30secs or so while INSIDE the tarp? Am usually in that kind of environment & hv to run soak wet to change configuration. Thanks... would be existed to learn again from you.
Hello Papa Hiker. Thanks for making these videos! I watched you do the set up around five times before trying it myself and it worked really well until I tried to open up the lee side. I just ended up with a plow point. What points are you releasing to create your “A-frame with a closed side?”
Great bunch of videos, I think I must have watched them all a few times now. Still I never get much more adventurous than an a frame, lean to or some variation of either one, but I think I'll be trying the asymmetrical Holden next time out with the tarp.
Hello Ross,Nothing wrong with a lean to in the right circumstances, but the A frame is just lame :-)) No, joking. The Holden and asym Holden are very good additions to your quiver though. Kind regards Papa hiker
OK, sorted. Having pegged the NW corner of the tarp and stretched the tarp out along the NW / SE line, It all revolves around how the placing of the SE corner of the tarp was identified / secured (it's a simple geometrical solution). I'm happy now even though I have sweated profusely outside in the SW of England's 34'. The neighbours probably think I'm mad.
Hey Son of... Great, you fixed it! Ok, it is hot today, but you are definitely not mad! As they said in feudal Japan: cry in the dojo, laugh on the battlefield.
@@papahiker9014 I have this same problem setting up the pitches that require staking two tie out points together. I have a very hard time finding the lengths and height required for all the corners to meet on the ground and be taut. I have the 4x4 as opposed to the 3x3, but it’s the same proportion wise. It makes it all the more frustrating with how Papa Hiker just seems to flop the corners onto the ground and just casually cut a pole to the right length. Other than just practice, is there a trick to the measurement? Do you do it with no wind in the garage first?
@@anonymousinternetuserfawke3295 In some of his other videos he says that he estimates the stake-out distances by eye. You will have to experiment, as the width and the height interact. Once you get the sides and height to your liking, at one of the side tie-out points attach some bright string or cordage. Now run it under the tarp to the opposite side staking point and cut it. It becomes your measuring tool for the next time. Remove the center pole and lay it beside the string from the tarp edge outward. Tie a knot in the string where the pole ends and now the string measures your center pole too. Never remove that string from the tarp, just wrap it up in place until you are as good as Papa Hiker at 'eyeballing' the distances so it won't be in the way of other tarp configurations and you won't lose it. With that string you can set up perfectly every time even in the dark.
greetings from norway, finding your videos to be very helpful can't wait to test some of these ground setups for the first time, but i have a little question: in these fully enclosed setups do you get any problems with condensation ? :)
Hej Olaf, sorry for a very late reply! Well, it does help against condensation if there is some air flow. I usually pitch the shelters so that they float a bit above the ground (10 cm). But, nothing is a guarantee, in fact you will sometimes get condensation on a lean to! The fact that the condensation is there does'nt make it a problem though. I don't really care much. Kind regards, Papa hiker
Hey Papa, ik heb de 3x3 DD tarp. Nu overweeg ik om de superlight te kopen, maar die is 3.00x2.90m. Kan ik hier dezelfde set-up's mee maken, of wordt ik dan beperkt? Ben benieuwd naar je reactie. Thumbs up!!
He Wâldrinner, De maat is niet zo’n probleem, de trapezoid, star tent en Hexamid zijn iig prima. Maar het materiaal van de Superlight rekt wel meer, dus je moet goed beschermen tegen de punt van de paal, en de spanning rondom netjes verdelen. Succes hè! Papa hiker
I just tested it today in my backyard and it works fine. The 2.9 m side is the one bisected by the ridgeline seam, and it's a tiny bit harder to pull back into the carabiner when closing from inside. This may not be an issue but on the tightest of pitches, but on the lee side chose the side whereupon unlocking from the carabiner, frees the panel without the ridgeline tieout (if that makes sense)
Hi Jadekayak, Yes, but since I have no hammock I never made a video on them. Also, options are more limited with hammocking. Tarp is bigger, so that does give some interesting closure options. Happy camping! Papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 yes,hammocking IS far more limited BUT it is way more comfortable and if its already hosing down the state of the ground does not matter.also does not matter about rocks or uneven ground. my tarp(oztrail 4m x 3m, with 2 cat cuts on long edge)can also be used for both hammocking and tenting-just wish i had tested this out BEFORE i went bush in november last year because i bought a small tent just in case of no suitable hammock spots
@@jadekayak01 Hey Jadekayak! Yes, I definitely see the upsides of hammocking. Oh man, you could have saved a lot of weight if you ditched the tent and got your hammock setup to work on the ground too. have fun, papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 funny you say that because thats exactly what ive done. The last 4 weeks the tent has been in the bag and im going to mail it to a friend back home. The stalling point was additions to the tarp to make it a self contained ground fly as well
Hey Papa, thank you for all the videos. Couple of questions for you if you have time to answer. I have the dd 4by4 metre tarp already for my hammock. Would you suggest using this to make you tarp tent configurations? Or get a 3by3? Also, may I ask what age the poles you use that extend when making your tarp tent configurations. Thanks for all your effort on the videos. Loving tbe paper mock ups, I really find these useful. 👍
Hi Russ, Thanks for your reaction! The 4*4 seems to be a very good size for the pyramid configurations, so I would really check if you maybe can stick with that tarp. Saves money too. The poles I use are these: amzn.to/3qJN6r1 Have a great day, Papa hiker
Thank you John! This was the first video I did, with my 9 yr old holding the camera, not so steadily :-) I have a video in the pipeline that shows five or six fully enclosed pyramid pitches like this one, you will definately like that. It will be a while though, first I'm finishing the series on floored tarp pitches.
Hi! If you're one guy tgeb you can offset the pole to the side a bit, or (what I did just last week) use two poles to make an inverted V. Goid luck! PH
Hey Trooper, that sounds like a very big tarp. Bigger does catch more wind, so the compact pitches are a good idea. Post a pic of your result if possible! Kind regards papa hiker
Hey Grodz, you may want to check out my other video on 5 pyramid pitches: those are all also suited for the superlight. This one will work, but you may need two extra stakes, since the two corners where you clip the tie outs together are not even. Good luck!
Hey Martin, that's a cool comment. I didn't quite look at it like art :-). I usually camp outside of bug season, but I recently bought a one person bug bivvy from aliexpress, which is only about 230 grams, with fine mesh and a ripstop silnylon floor for an incredible 22 dollars. Can't wait to try it.
Papa hiker, thanks for this hint, I shall have a look at this bug net. I also hike outside bug season and I love my DD travel hammock with bug net. Sometimes with some pitches it's hard to establish the net. Have a great time!
+wazzup105 hi wazzup, the peak height is about 135 cm with a 3x3 tarp. If you have adjustable poles to max 145, you can offset one slightly and get great length for sleeping. Give it a try!
+Taz Mahal Hi Taz, for guylines I use a "trucker's hitch" that I tie off with a slipknot half hitch. If you google Adrew skurka guyline system you will find an excellent tutorial.
Hi JRra, nope, you can’t do it with a 4.5 by 3. But, check out this happy video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rBe1eUgelxo.html See you, Papa Hiker
Hi! No it won’t: check out my other video with the five pyramid pitches too: you can fix the flaps on the outside, better in wind, or on the inside where you tuck em to the side. In both cases rain will drip on the perimeter of your shelter. Give it a try! Kind regard papa hiker
"ultimate tarp shelter how to: enclosed pyramid" ... I despair. Pole set to 135cm, I just can't get the edges of the DD 3 x 3 tarp resting or anywhere near the edge of the ground, typical gap (between tarp edge and ground )is 8 - 10cm. If I lower the pole the gap (tarp edge to ground reduces) but now there's no tension and sides of the tarp are like loose sails on a yacht!
Hi Tas, good question, it is easy. Reach into one of the arpits of the wings of the arrow and unclip your tarp there. You can now get in or out, but you can also use the flap you are now holding in your hand to create a permanent opening, a frame style. Kind regards Papa hiker
@@garyo4456 I think I can help. Pause the video at 3:57. See the apex of the triangle, the 'armpit' of the wing? Reach in there and release the stake and the whole left surface flap will open up and provide an entrance. Maybe papa can provide an adendum video showing how this is done. :)
+Mach1rulz hi Mach1, I do actually have a set of video's on that subject: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GZFJoDhSkG8.html Kind regards, papa hiker
+Zira Michelle LoveoftheDark: hi Zira , i get that reaction more often. For convenience here is a copy paste from an earlier post: Thanks for your reply. The modern take on lightweight camping is a floorless outer, combined with a ground sheet for snow and outside of bug season, a bivvy bag for maximum protection, or a bug bivvy or full inner for in bug season. Tarp camping really fits that lightweight/adaptable/double use bill. Also tarp camping with a floorless pitch works well in a bushcraft setting. Tents are getting out of fashion. I can see from your reply that you're not really on board with the system yet. I get your reluctance, but it is working very well for thousands of lightweight hikers around the world. Maybe, after some research, give it a go and let us know how it went. Kind regards! Papa hiker
