Converting the Umarex Notos to a bottle for a minimum of 5 times the factory shot count with a bolt on product from Airgun Archery & Fun (not sponsored) and a look at a couple of other bottle adapter blocks I've gotten my hands on
That is absolutely beautiful of you to tell everyone where we can find these awesome parts even though you produce them as well, you are a real G for that!👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏻👏🏿👍👍🏾👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿
😊 stop worrying about how long your videos are, you really helped me. Because the notos and the pp750 are the same. And I didn't really know how to find the drop blocks that you have. Thanks for the video.
It can be confusing. I just purchased the Speak PP 750 mines putting out about 14 FPE then I’ve heard that the Notos is putting out 21 FPE yet they’re supposed to be basically the same. I don’t know what the shot count difference would be per Phil.
That was a great video. Long videos are fine as long as you are showing all that great tech knowledge that show us how to avoid heartache when we try new mods. All those things you showed looked great and will save everyone that watches a lot of trouble. Thank for sharing.
@@johnnybbgunner2136 thanks. I post a video now and then but never check my channel for stuff like that. Now my 7 year old daughter on the other hand keeps track lol.
Dang that was a great review on how to do that upgrade. I could see what you were doing, and explaining as you went. I was a bit Leary of the high pressure though. That's dangerous stuff. Thanks for explaining that as well. If I was to do this upgrade it's nice to have you go through it step by step. Regardless of the time of the video!!! Thanks can't wait till you get it out and shooting. I had all ready subscribed. So thanks again for your video.
Thanks brother. I been meaning to make a video about this for a while now. A lot of guys in the Notos FB groups are interested but feel exactly like you and aren't very confident I suppose. Telling them about it and posting pictures sometimes isn't as good as just making a video
I did it, I put mine on the bottle and love it my shot count is way more not sure how much but I just ran 6 mags and still shooting. I just wanted to say thank you for putting this video out very informative . Also just ordered a bottle adapter for my Avenger, she'll be next 😊, Thanks
@@RedCornOutdoors awesome man. I was getting 100 shots on the reg at factory power (18 fpe) with the little 220cc bottle filled to 4500 psi. Not sure how many shots the bigger 420cc bottle because I'm not that mad at my pellets lol
Very cool. Haven’t touched the Notos factory settings yet and it is getting me 40 shots at 25 yards with CHPs14.3s@745 FPS, Daisy HPs 15.4s @735FPS and Hades 16.9s @730FPS. I mean for 233$ from PYA🤷♂️ I’m in love. I’m shooting this gun more than my high end guns. That said I did bring the LCS to the job for them critters getting spooky and won’t let me get close enough with 17-18 FPE. Still…want to try the M60B next from Umarex/Snow Peak. I’m thinking they are calling it a Kelous…🤷♂️ It’s a tube version which is fine but still…well made. Thanks bud for the advice and your time. Stay blessed.
Very nice!!!! While long, it was very informative... lots of time when I'm working on something and I'm doing research, like here, I like to see what to expect, as well as what not to if I meet resistance with a part. Plus you have a lot of very nice tidbits of advice in there, like handling the trigger assy, that could make a crucial difference in the process! Thanks!!! The only thing I might ask for are actual part numbers for the parts you acquired so I get the right stuff. hehe
Thank you Just finished Had some set backs and bought every product you showed Even though you told me so. I just put on the Canadians z valve I’m not sure why I was nervous it was easier than imagined I heard springs and was like oh shit I wish I had that Allen driver I got her done though Thank you
@@kidpellet6544do I need to loosen the screw in the collar that blocks the tank I was just loosing it and it blew out …, wicked pissed My regulator pressure was sitting at 0 and the tank was in the green …,, please help
I accidently clocked the transfer port almost closed on mine, was at 6 fpe, fun indoor pinker, but I had to fix that, back up to 725 fps with CPHP now :)
Looks great man. I've got the dropblock and bottle on mine but i would like to do this mod as well. Great presentation! Wes is out of them at airgun Archery Fun, hopefully more will come in soon.
@kidpellet6544 what is the fitting on the drop block from Wes? I was trying to fill my bottle and the male and female was the connector. Thank for a great instruction video
you have got some pretty awesome ideas bro , great job !!! . you should get into less than lethal stuff also for things like the umarex hdp.50 and hdr.68 paintball markers !
I have the double barrel shotgun marker. Made some wood and aluminum slugs fir it and had a lot of fun. Blew an oring out of the barrel and haven't fixed it yet. Should get it out and have a look
One of the best videos that I have seen for disassembly of this gun. I would like to get the second regulator block that you showed with the screw to shut off pressure, but I couldn't understand where you said that you got it from. Do you have any details on where to get one.
Not sure if this is the exact vendor I got mine from but this is the block Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $50.01 | Air Force Condor PCP explosion-proof external regulation Z-type constant pressure valve3500psi4500psi a.aliexpress.com/_mKXwUw0
@@kidpellet6544 thanks kid! i have one but i can t screw on it without to have a not align valve..how do you align this z valve on you block ?do you have o ring between ?
@@derivas007 the guy I got mine from gets that block called "part #66" and matches them up with the z-valves he sells. No machining done but sometimes he uses a different sized oring he told me. His name is Wes from Airgun Archery and Fun in Canada
@@derivas007 I don't know what all sizes Wes uses when the block will not tighten up in the right position. I would look for a place that carries harder orings like 90 duro and see if you can take part 66 off and take that and the z-valve to them to see if they can find one that will fit snug and you valve is aligned. If you have a machine shop that could help they can remove a little material from part 66 and make it fit with the factory Notos oring also
Great video. If I get one of these drop blocks and I install it BUT it doesn't clock good enough, what is the process to get it clocked doing it manually without a lathe?
If you can get the silver retainer for the regulator to turn in a little a person could carefully sand the receiver end of the z-valve down until it clocks right. A little paint and it wouldn't look so bad. A little brutal but it would work
One more question. The block I have is the same one you used on your notos "Cricket", right now when I screw the block on my Notos it stops perfectly vertical BUT its a half a turn from being clocked, so the Picatinny rail part of the block is on the top, it needs to go one half turn MORE to clock it. Question: about how much do you think I would have to remove to get it to go another half of a turn? Just like a ball park idea. @let6544
@@hammer5848 the thread pitch is 1.0 mm so if its 180 degrees out you would have to remove half a mm or about .019 thousandths of an inch. Best to sneak up on it a little at a time so you don't go to far.
Where did you get your bottles from for this build? Do you happen to have a good link for them? Awesome video btw. I’m planning on doing a conversion to my notos and I’ve watched this video like 10 times lol
Great videos you're a smart cookie. My Artemis PP 750 should be arriving in the next week. I read a lot of posts and saw some videos on modifications. If I can get 15 FPE or maybe 20 FPE at most it would be good, but i would like to able to dial the power back to its normal 500 FPS if I eant more shots per fill which should be around 50. What 3 or 4 modifications do you recommend? One is to shorten the hammer stpring, the other is to adjust the regulator, and the other is to drill out some of the internals. What's your advice in terms of steps to take? Thanks
Great easy to follow video. I have a question regarding the Ali express z valve. I turned the valve cc and it only goes to 1200 PSI. Any ideas that may help me? Thanks
Not sure man. I turned mine 1/4 turn counterclockwise and it went to around 3k. Are you sure you have enough air in it and the little setscrew above the bottle is open?
I'm afraid the barrel has two snap rings at the end of it and then the moderator was molded over them. Even if you got it to break free it would only spin and not pull off. You can get it off but you'll have to do some cutting and sanding/grinding to remove the plastic around the two snap rings
Instead of sanding the drop block could you put a washer between the action and the o ring? So it would go dropblock-o ring-action? Might help with the timing.
A guy could replace the altogether with a delrin or acetal washer as long as it had a little meat on it to crush. If it was a little extra thick a guy could sand it down at home until it was timed right. Should be pretty rigid
long video are great especially for some one that doesn't know how to do it and want to lean short vids don't give you enough information lots missing 👍
@@titogrant9654 I have done a little but not really trying to break into the airgun mods kinda stuff. Mostly just sharing what I've done to my personal stuff. Biggest thing is being liable for any HPA related accidents to airguns or parts I've made. Willing to help with advice anytime though and share my experience with whatever I can
As far as I understand the Artemis pp750 has the same Barrel as your gun. Have you ever tried shooting light slugs with your gun? Currently my gun puts out around 10 FPE I'm going to try and get it to 14 FPE
@@surreallife777 its supposed to be made by the same factory so I would think it has the same barrel. Mine was putting out about 18 fpe and several others said the same thing. I know I adjusted the factory regulator up to around 2200 psi or a little more with a shim behind the hammer spring and got it up to 24 fpe with an 18 grain JSB. Tried a few different slugs in it with not so great power or accuracy. I think my best accuracy was with a 16 grain AirArms pellet at 18 fpe and did pretty well out to 100 yards. My friend Carl's did very well at 100 yards only with Crosman 14.3's. Not "benchrest" good but we hit a small tin can on a steel post with every shot from a sandbag. I'm thoroughly happy with that myself
Great looking . But I do t k own if I missed when you said how much psi the regulater can go up to. Can you let me know?? I think I am going to make a conversion like that on my jkhan iluda n400 in .177cal
I searched for about 2 hrs and couldnt find any drop block/ hpa adapter specifically for the notos .Apparently the pp750 adapter is no longer available . I found a drop block adapter on ebay that looks similar but it comes in a long and a short version and i dont know which to get ? Any help/links would be greatly appreciated, thanks
There are no specific bottle adapters for the Notos. The gentleman at Airgun Archery & Fun was getting the part #66 from a vendor and matching them up to the Z-Valve found on Ali Express and selling them as a kit. Not sure if or when he would get them back in stock. There is a guy in the Notos FB group that does the conversion but needs the Notos in hand. Not sure if he can do it with only the part #66 off of your gun or not. If so that would be a lot cheaper than shipping the whole gun both ways
I saw the lothar walther barrels and thought it couldn’t be to hard to make one fit for my gunsmith buddy. I’m very interested in your results hopefully we can get some updates on that build. What dimensions and rifling did you go with?
Yes, it would screw on with the barrel removed. At about 8 minutes and 30 seconds I start talk about how that would work. No video of that particular install though
@@kidpellet6544 Ya I was confused I watched the whole video ,I remember seeing it in your hands , but being a single dad I probably missed it So i ordered that one . Then I watched the second half there and it’s the Canadian one . Which seems like more work except for the timing But could I use a stainless flat washer and o ring to try to keep straight? Or I can sand the washer down maybe
@@Wickedstickyflowers you could possibly use a washer and sand it until its timed right. If anything is going to give you a problem its getting the oring to seal. Could probably stack the orings or use a bigger one. The factory oring isn't going seal if the washer has to be very thick. Kind of minor problems in the airgun world lol
I would appreciate your advice. It would save me a lot of time and mistakes as well as other people too. I just put an order in for the Artemis PP750. I would like to increase the FPS and FPE. There is a video out there called: “Artemis, PP750 power adjustment modifications.” Dan Geib. I’m not sure if you are familiar with the video. If you are, do you recommend that I follow his procedures? There are no extra parts purchased. It’s all about adjustments and drilling. After all the modifications, he got up to 800 FPS and 20 FPE. My concern is the shot count because I believe with 22 caliber JSB Hades in stock form the PP750 gets about 50 shots per fill. My concern is that it might takes the shot counts down to 20 shots which is not very many. Do you think it’s possible to get the same FPE and FPS numbers without losing too many shots per fill by following a different procedure in terms of modifications to the Gun as compared to what he did? It would be interesting if you could do a video with stage one modification video and a stage two modification video for the PP750. Thanks. Great videos by the way Michael
I don't but its easy. Remove the scope if there's one on it. See the screws in the picatiny rail in front of the breach? Remove those and look inside the holes. There is another screw under them. Remove those and the entire barrel, moderator, pic rail and shroud will slide out with a little twisting and wiggling
Have you modified the power level of your gun? It was kind of disappointing to see this but someone shot a can of spam at 50 yards and the PP 750 could not penetrate it except for the entrance. It left a dent on the back of the can. At 750 FPS I would’ve thought it would go through at least two cans. I’m thinking about purchasing one but I want to get the power up to 800 FPS or more. Have you tried doing any penetration test at 50 yards and 100 yards? If not, it would be interesting to see it.
Umarex advertised it at 12 fpe but everyone I know of gets around 18 fpe. You can get around 23 fpe out of a stock Notos by just turning the regulator up. You can even shim the hammer spring a little but the bad thing is it only gets like one mag before it's out of air. That's the number one reason I put a bottle on my other Notos. I believe you can hit 800 easy with a 14.3 grain pellet but pushing it faster with more air pressure took away a lot of accuracy on mine. I turned it back down to 18 fpe and its getting 100 shots per fill with the smaller 220cc bottle and I can hit a soup can at 100 yards. Even penetrates one side, but not the other. Can't get much better that that with an 11.75 inch barrel mass produced. I've got a Lother Walther barrel to put on one of them when I get time. I think it's like 19 inches long to should pick up a little power without using more air. A person could also try fitting an air stripper inside a moderator to help with the "dirty" air when the reg is turned up to 23 or 24 fpe. Might tighten up the groups but would still have a lousy shot count without a bottle
@@kidpellet6544 Thanks appreciate it. After searching for hours, I think these are some of the best videos in terms of modifying the PPP 750. Take a look at them if you want and then let me know what you think. Title. “Artemis PP750 Power Level Adjustments.” It’s not a very good video, but this guy says he’s getting 40 FPE out of the gun 980 FPS. The title is. “Umarex Notos Update HUGE power Upgrade! 1st Ever 980fps with 21gr! Check it out! tips/ info.” Title “Artemis PP750 Field Review 72K views 3y ago #airguns ...more.”
Sorry, I looked at my last message and it’s pretty long. I’ll make it shorter. Can you explain how you did all this? I would like to increase the FPS and FPE. There is a video out there called: “Artemis, PP750 power adjustment modifications.” Dan Geib. Have you ever considered modifying your gun? My concern is shot count. He is getting about 800 FPS and 20 FPE with these modifications. There are no extra parts. All he did was adjustments and some drilling. I don’t know how many shots he’s getting Per fill?
Not sure about the pp750 but the factory Notos is getting 18 fpe out of the box and just adjusting the regulator up a couple hundred psi will get you to 20 fpe without any modifications. A couple more hundred psi and it will get around 24 fpe but reduces shot count a lot. The next thing on my list is to add a new longer barrel
I have two of these blocks, and was wondering what is your recommendation on making one them fit on my arm 2079. It's already have a paintball bottle on it, I want to be able to adjust it on the fly. Any suggestions will help.
I would probably get an externally adjustable paintball reg. I think they are around the same price. The problem with this one on your rig would be making and adapter to get it to either fit your block and it would probably hang to low or make an adapter to fit your airtube without the factory block. Not that difficult but you would have to do some machining. With the externally adjustable paintball reg it would be bolt on with no machining. I dont have a link but I'm sure you can find them on Ebay and Amazon
I miss spelled AR 2079. The action looks just like a Gauntlet, all the same parts and everything, the breech on this one is single shot, but the Gauntlet breech will fit it.
I see no reason you couldn't use one of the plenum kits available but you'd have to maybe do some work to get it to hang straight. As far as power I think 30 ish would be the upper end with such a short barrel. I think my 22 cal Origin cranked up but stock is 40 ish with a heavy slug and the barrel is a lot longer.
Teflon is most useful for tapered threads like pipe threads. Doesnt do as good a job on straight threads like these on the Notos. Not saying it couldn't be done but it would probably take a lot of tape and in the right place so that your still using enough threads to hold up to the high pressure
Does anyone know what thread size that is on part no. 66? I've seen those regulators you used on another auction site and wondered if they'd work on an Airforce (or Gunpower as they are over here in the UK) tank.
I just realized the Z block I got was leaking out the gauge glass the glass and rim got filed down by the regulator due to packing I got the aluminum Z block you got there but now I need a gauge and fill port that fits between the Tank and Z block I know I’m driving you nuts You got a link
Can someone give me the distance between the centerlines of the intake and valve. I would like to use this part to make a bullboss bottle conversion (like a Hatsan airmax but with a plenum) but need to sort out if I can get away with the dimensions.
Is it possible to share the dimensions or a drawing of the drop aluminum block you made made? Very talented work and video. Thank you for sharing your time and efforts with the community. Have a most awesome afternoon!
You would need to make an adapter to thread thread into this block and slip in the airtube of the pistol and pin it in place or use screws. If you get the block that comes with the PCP valve you could use it in place of the pistol valve
Watch this video and bought the notos, bottle, and the regulator. But can't get the regulator to hold air. I'm too dang frustrated and ready to go back to stock.
@@jesseyang1904 did you get the regulator only or did you get the regulator and part "66" already fit together? Sounds like it's just the oring between the reg and part "66". I changed the oring out with one of another size on one of mine and it sealed up. Maybe that's all it takes to fix yours.
if they made a couple different threaded adapters to put a stock valve on the drop block they would sell why more. the valve it comes with doesn't fit any stock air gun
the universal drop blocks not every valve 16/1 thread if they made adapters so people could thread in different valves they would sell more @@kidpellet6544
It just seems loud, although I'm not comparing it to another airgun. Probably just the nature of the beast. Gun is right around 86-88 db when shooting. Is that normal?
@@theobserver9565 don't have a decibel meter but I think I've heard others mention it being in the 90 db range. Could also be that the hammer striking the valve is right in front of your nose. I have other airguns that have a quieter firing cycle but they are way heavier and the hammer is surrounded by a lot of metal in the receiver.
Excellent video . Friend. Could you do me a favor and send me your contact information where I bought the valve with the adapter for the natos that says from Canada?
I don't think so even though they are made by the same company. The Snowpeak M60B is the same gun as the Zelos and offered in 177 to 30 cal and the "B" is for bottle. Converting the Zelos may actually be more expensive
Great easy to follow video. I have a question regarding the Ali express z valve. I turned the valve cc and it only goes to 1200 PSI. Any ideas that may help me? Thanks