Unbelievable 5'X10' Camper Trailer: "Live LARGE in a SMALL Space!" 

Thank you for sharing Scott.

Sorry to hear this Scott. Keep hammering on them. That’s what I did.

@@BobCochran-ue3vdthank you for the support

Same thing happened to me from @BivouacOverlandLLC in Houston. Paid for a trailer and got ghosted. I too am in the middle of recovery...

Good luck Scott! like most business dealings, NEVER pay before you receive the product...they have 0 incentive to keep their end if u do...

Darren thank you so much for sharing this.

Now they are hiding out claiming they have all went to Pennsylvania where they just announced their new venture.. Adventure Series RV LLC. They are still using the Overkill name to drum up business even though Overkill is done producing campers. This was all confirmed by Xtreme outdoors RV, who they have entered into an agreement with. There are 10- 20 customers that have given them money to produce campers that are now left high & dry cause they have no money to pay them back or the capital to produce campers for them.

Then there is the defect complaints of leaky campers, binar heaters not working, water heaters not working, electrical failures, bent rear frames. They assured customers they would stand behind their work but many have been waiting months, years and they never did the repairs. Their shop in Bend will be closed down next week and just like that they are gone but still asking for deposits from people when they have not even produced anything for those of us that already gave them money. BUYERS BEWARE! Do your research, check other websites, Facebook groups, Oregon DOJ consumer protection site. The information is now all out in the open, so don't get screwed like the rest of us. I now have no camper and out thousands of dollars I cannot recover.

Woot woot, looks like someone's comment got through. And by the way, thanks for taking my advice on breaking your comment up. I appreciate that you got the chance to post.

@@PlayingwithSticks thanks for the help and thanks for allowing these comments to remain up and be a man of your word.

Thank you for sharing this. Obviously Brandon has the opportunity to respond to this if he desires.

Thank you for sharing. I am hopeful Brandon and his team will address this comment.

@@PlayingwithSticks Me too, but based on Dave’s recent IG post doesn’t sound like resolution is in their plans.

@@matthewkoster5 I will have to check out that IG post. Thanks for sharing.

Went to read their statement on Instagram. I love the design but would not do business with this company in a million years. Per their statement, they “don’t have the capital to manufacture any units or to refund any deposits”. So existing customers are screwed. . . but fear not naive consumer. If you are a new customer. . . well step right up! We will be happy to build you a camper. And if we make enough money, we might get back to those guys who put down deposits years ago, but the new customers come first. You’d be a fool to take a gamble on this company.

@@tarriverrunningco6665 Thanks for the insight, the extreme market conditions have taken a financial toll on numerous small business over the past couple years. We had been seeking and vetting funding over the past eighteen months to grow our company internally, while many offers had been fine combed we decided to partner with an existing manufacturer who has skin in the game for over two decades. Their production expertise and business sense coupled with our design, materials and construction technique will allow for the evolution of our product. Clarity and honesty is what we are aiming for, we will make good for those in our existing queue.

Crazy times. I hope this isn't foreshadowing.

Thanks for sharing. I appreciate you taking the time.

Who might your uncle be? We have been in contact with all of our clients since day one.

Good to know!😢 so sorry you are going through that! Thanks for sharing!!!❤

We do not delete comments, unless there is derogatory words. Lately RU-vid has been self deleting any comments that have links in them or if they are extremely long. My suggestion for now is to leave out any links and if you have a really long story, maybe try and break it into multiple comments. However, even following this guidance sometimes does not work. Many of our top posters in the community struggle with this issue. And they are posting positive, helpful, detailed comments. Best thing to do is keep it short, concise, no foul language, and no links. If you want to share a link, just let me know and I can post it from my end.

Slightly misconstrued, this is not a bail out. We have formed a manufacturing partnership to continue production.

@@BrandonOverkill Phrase it as you like, but doesn't seem that far fetched. The success of Xtreme, by Overkill's own announcement, will determine whether Overkill customers are made right. New customer production and deposits done through Xtreme. Customers prior to the partnership who have already given up money get to sit and watch while those who order through Xtreme take delivery of trailers. If, and only if, Xtreme can produce enough to turn enough profit can the original customers hope to get something back, after filling the other obligations.

Thank you for sharing this. I am being optimistic here. But I am very hopeful the new partnership can get this trailer back on the road. I doesn't dismiss what has been done in the past, but I sure would like to see this trailer being produced in the future.

What do you mean??? This is news to me.

Did you personally experience a problem. If so, details?

@@garretlewis4103 I suggest reading through the rest of this comment section. Nightmare stories after another.

We have had a couple of people ask about how the slide-outs are sealed. Would you be able to speak to that? I really appreciate your comment here. I think there is a lot of good information for people to read. I especially like the update about the warranty work. I think this is a question many people have as well.

This company sounds shady

@magneto9555 that’s a good way of putting it. Fortunately, they are now out of business. This trailer though is still being sold under the name. Epik RV.

@@PlayingwithSticksGood to know Epik RV is now selling this model.

ok, that pull out stove needs adjustable folding legs with a wire rack or some such rt there below the stove w/ it's own ability to pull out forward at least 4-5 " for tongs, fork, hot pads. lid.,& where tf is a bracket 4 mini fire ext.? cause rt now with all that on the pull out has got to be nearing the500# limit 4 those roll outs & the further the weight is from the attached fixture, the more sag & sway there is !meaning the increased risk of never being able to slide them back in without a hammer! maybe guy wires from the roof to the end of the first pull out& a locking mech to prevent it from misaligning from a bump.

Yeah, they went belly up! 👍

I don’t think you understand RU-vid. The commercials are part of the platform. Regardless, if you choose to have them or not. Plus this isn’t a channel trying to sell you anything. We have no connection to this trailer or anyone who sells this trailer.

Thanks for sharing your story Sarah. I really appreciate you getting on here.

@@PlayingwithSticks yup. Nobody is getting their money back or their trailer. Another person/commenter who has been scammed, said they got confirmation from the PA company that they cant build anyones camper like brandon is trying to lie about. It’s such a sad situation and I feel horrible for the victims of this

@@Ajjakakkaka This is awful to hear. I hope the second part isn't correct. I am really hoping the East Coast can bail this situation out.

@@PlayingwithSticks keep up the good work drew. Your proactive-ness doesn’t go unnoticed in the community

Quite a large accusation, fully comprehending the statement posted earlier would lead most to believe that after this transition everyone in the existing queue will be made whole.

There is a huge list of people that have been ripped off

Hi Jeff. Any chance you can remember the name of that company? I'm wondering if it was the same company? They used to make a smaller version called the T.K.47. It is the original trailer that caught my eye from them. They actually decided to bring it back into production soon. Good cautionary advice here Jeff. Thank you for sharing. With any of these trailers we all need to do our thorough research.

@@twistedcarrotproductions From the original company or this company?

@@twistedcarrotproductions Incorrect statement, our business path will allow all existing clients to be made whole.

Never apart of another trailer company, you must be thinking of another manufacturer. There have been several who have tried with less than optimal outcomes over the years.

Good seeing you on here. I felt the same ways as you when I first saw this trailer. I think they are onto something really special here. Like you said, lets hope this new partnership takes them in the right direction.

Yeah, rooftop tents can be good if you've got people you want separated from you, but the pop top is great for giving more inside space, while also still having some separation. Plus, if ya put climate control in it, everyone can benefit from it

Agreed! Buried pricing drives me crazy as well. Unfortunately I think it is kind of the norm these days.

The pricing link on the website is down. Page is undergoing a massive overhaul.

@@BrandonOverkill I can verify that. The website was working last week, but then I exchanged emails with Brandon letting him know that certain portions were not working correctly. He has a team currently working on the changes.

@@PlayingwithSticks Trailer is awesome though. Thanks for the content.

@@Bizarb You are most welcome!

Wow 14 months is an incredibly long time. I am sure you thought you were going to loose your money. What kind of build/trailer issues have you experienced? Sad you pay “big money” for a camper and it has problems and then the customer service is not good. I could possibly deal with problems and poor customer service if you were paying a whole lot less.

@Garret Lewis The overall design is good...but, some of the engineering is lacking. My biggest issue at the moment is the canopy...the mounting system they used allows to much movement...the heating system hasn't worked right since I got it. I had to replace parts on the water system and been having trouble with the pump not priming...There's a long list...these are just a few...

@@xbpbat21x Sorry to hear.

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. And the words of wisdom near the end was a nice touch! I can't imagine what they folks are going through. But, like you I hope the best for them.

It is crazy to think that 14 months to 2 years was the average time for getting trailer these past 3 years. And this was all across the industry. That is why companies like Bean, Hiker, and a handful of others took such pride in a quick turnaround. And they took advantage of it. So many people were not willing to wait that long and ended up going with manufacturers that could pump out trailers quickly. Those with strong business models really won during this pandemic. And I think we will probably see a shakeout in the near future regarding what companies will continue on. So much growth so fast, sounded like a good thing to many manufactures. But many were not aware of how difficult that transition of scaling would really be.

Thanks for sharing this. I really appreciate it. And I’m really glad to hear it’s working out this round.

This gives me hope for my order!

With the size of the slide out, I suspect that they are just using heavy duty "drawer" slides underneath it. You can get 500lb rated industrial drawer slides and use multiple of them to carry plenty of capacity. Since the slide has a bed on it, you don't have to have any magic "full extension" system: part of the bed still overlaps/stays inside the trailer, which is what allows you to use conventional double-extension drawer slides. And if you're very clever, you actually install the drawer slides "backwards", so that they are in the extended position when the slide is in. This is mostly a benefit because it keeps your glides protected from the elements because they are not exposed when the slide is out. But this is just my speculation and recommendation on how to recreate this system effectively and economically without fancy fabrication.

Looks like your comment made it through. Thanks for sharing your experience.

You have the second camper ever sold. Many improvements to our construction techniques, materials and components used since your build. You have been offered free warranty repairs for years, and refused except for one time. I never promised a replacement, we offer a buyback because you were so eager to get a new one. Also you have told people you design secret equipment for OverKill, interesting to point the finger and call a person a L I A R. I had never spoken to you until Expo of PNW 2022.

@@BrandonOverkill Thank you Brandon for sharing your response.

That camper should have been mine. Glad I never received it.

@@BobCochran-ue3vd What camper do you have Bob?

Is that official? I’ve been trying to find anything official regarding this. Down webpage, broken partnership on the East Coast. But for an actual announcement, I’m having trouble finding one. I appreciate you updating me on this.

Just remember all this came to light after we made this video. And don't forget, without this video and these comments people would still be handing over large deposits without knowing why they shouldn't. Like I often say, people are smart. Give them the information and let them decide. A community like this is a great way to bring issues to light. And I must say the community did a great job.

Thanks for the good luck. I've been waiting 19 months since reserve deposit. They got the construction deposit 14 months ago. Brandon won't communicate with me so I have no idea what my money is being used for, not to build my trailer apparently. Hearing about all your problems makes me wish I could just get my money back, at least they fixed it.

Haha. That’s why we have followers because we don’t take checks.

I store some items in the back of my Jeep Cherokee because my T@B 320 has limited storage. I did recently add two aluminum storage bins designed to go on either side of the existing tub to store things. EDIT: I just watched the vid and besides the huge storage box up front, I believe I saw a pass-through storage area underneath in the rear. That's one thing Ido wish I had with my T@B 320 (the 400 does have it). My canopy, camping chairs, etc., have to go in the back of my tow rig. I would need to position a stepstool at the entry to this Overkill. That step up into the camper did not look user friendly for youngsters and/or oldsters.

Yes, if you don't have a large tow vehicle, the storage in this is very minimal. However, if you have a large tow vehicle that can support all the extra weight, that tongue box is HUGE! But then you also have to consider organization as much as space. With that limited indoor space is it arranged well to stay organized at camp. That can be a bit trickier to see until you actually take it out on the road.

We had the underbed storage in our Shasta. That was so nice for camp chairs, wood, chocks, etc. Then we took out Jordan's Valiant trailer and that had passthrough storage in the tongue box. AMAZING! Being able to grab your gear from either side, based on where it settled during transport was great. So on our current build I wanted the best of both worlds. I wanted the storage to be underbed (nice for keeping the weight back a bit more and yes we are taking this into consideration with axle placement to eliminate sway) and ensuring that underbed storage can be accessed from either side of the trailer. I am so excited to eliminate having to have a rooftop box on our tow vehicle to hold our side entry tents, chairs, etc. It was getting tough for us. You can only haul so much gear with a small camper and we didn't want to upgrade to a truck to haul the new gear the growing boys were taking out. So we accepted the challenge of trying to add additional storage to a smaller camper. Good point on the step as well. Having a suspension system like the Bruder or the Bean wold not only help for leveling at the campsite, but would also get the trailer down to a nice level for stepping in and out.

I'm right there with you Chris. I would like to avoid involving lawyers, but it's about that time.

As a suggestion, would be a more helpful comment to briefly name a couple issues you had, if so. If just “don’t trust,” that could be anything from a rival to a crazy person, even if you are neither. As a example, I have seen a person giving 1-star to an apartment complex because they were convinced the apartment could spray their patio door so that they could leave it totally open and bugs would never give in, and were furious when the apartment said they don’t think that is possible, or that if so, the spray would be so toxic it could not be used in apartments).

Yes, not an indoor camper by any means. Well, maybe night time use. But definitely aimed at more of the outdoor camping crowd.

We get that. There are a number of people in the community like you who need a bit more indoor living requirements.

Yes, I think the best thing moving forward for this company is to not take deposits for materials. Basically match the industry standard of taking a good faith deposit of something like $5000. But this current model of a 15% deposit upfront, then a 60% deposit 60 days before production… that’s just a recipe for disaster. You’re in 75% before they even start building a trailer. Second best scenario would be similar to construction deposits. Only hand over funds at incremental points in the build when you have proof that they are moving forward. But even this model makes me a bit uncomfortable.

It was a disaster…….

We did. This is why we made this video and this is why the company issued a public statement that afternoon. And the rest is history. The timing of this release wasn’t coincidence. But to ensure there was no hearsay on our part, we let the true victims have their voice in the comment section. Edit: and how you can know that is true, just watch the entire video and we issue a warning.

Agreed! Upfront pricing would be so nice. However, I am seeing more and more manufacturers doing it lately. So hoping the trend keeps continuing.

The link on our site is not working, should be fixed tomorrow.

I should get the chance to finally set foot in a Mammoth trailer this summer. I am looking forward to it.

I'm glad there is no one definition for camping. Like this channel proves, there is a trailer for everyone out there. Tent on wheels, bed on wheels, house on wheels. You name it, someone makes it. Haha.

Any trailers in New Zealand we need to check out? Haha 😆 May and I are always looking for an excuse to get over there someday.

​@@PlayingwithSticks What a great adventure that would be for your whole family!

I was wondering if there was a water management system. I wish I looked closer to see if there were gutters. Much easier to do something like this with composite, but definitely doable with aluminum.

There is also a lot of dust ingress. I would stay away from those guys. They have very bad reputation.

The folks subscribing seem to be on all spectrums. We tend to have just as many people laughing at this price as we have embracing it. There is a pretty wide gap in terms of acceptable pricing between the overland industry, which this trailer is, and the small camper industry as a whole. But, even the small camper industry prices have gotten a bit out of hand lately.

@@PlayingwithSticks thanks for the reply!

Haha. It is just me falling behind. I am playing a lot of catch up within the comment section of this video. The first 24 hours were pretty wild!

@@PlayingwithSticks Nearly 400 comments! 😀

Exactly. And that is big to people in Oregon. Last summer I was battling for campsites across the State. I was forced to stay in multiple rest stops and a cracker barrel and the weather wasn't great. I was lucky that I had a galley hatch to work under.

There's a lakeside campsite I use during the winter where the wind has torn up any canvas left out. My grandkids tried sleeping in a tent next to me and ended up piling in with me

You don’t have to wait any longer. They actually went out of business. This trailer is now being sold under the name. Epik.

Thank you!

Timbren is a Canadian company.

@@geographyinaction7814 Thank you for the correction. I will update my comment.

That top box door is on par for the industry. This is the same way 99% of the aluminum tongue boxes are fabricated in the overland industry. What they are doing is being mindful of the tongue weight. But, you are right that probably has some trade-offs on the trail.

We have increased the gauge of Aluminum used on the boxes and doors, less flex and super solid.

@@PlayingwithSticks Thx for the replay.. interesting to learn this is the standard.

@@BrandonOverkill Thx for the update Brandon... appreciate your response!

Thanks Matt! That means a lot coming from you. I was just telling Colorado Mallcrawlers about you yesterday. I was telling him how I wanted to partner with you and then life got in the way. I still really feel bad about dropping the ball on our meet up. Thanks again for being so understanding.

Thanks Bart! I agree I think Timbren is perfect for our family. Just the right amount of weight and functionality. We find it is a bit too heavy for our newest trailer, but that is a unique trailer. Although it is too heavy we are still installing Timbren on it. We just wish there was an independent suspension out there that was a little bit lighter for our build. Good eye on the bolted comment. I usually am against moving parts as well. But something like this, is so advantageous to the build. And it doesn't scare me away since observing so many homebuilds recently with slide-outs. So far I haven't read about one with any failures. They have had failures in other parts of their build, but not the slideouts like I expected. However, I am not an off roader. With offroading, I see how this could maybe be a concern. And also good point on the tongue weight. With those incredibly large boxes it could get out of control really fast! I have been following the posts as well. To be honest it is nothing new in the industry especially during Covid. But, the differing factor is these large deposits. Everyone else who has been standing in a build que for 14 months to 2 years has remained somewhat patient because they have no skin in the game or maybe $500-$2,000. But when you are talking about handing over $30-$40K and waiting for 14 month to 2 years I could see how this gets amped up a bit. We have heard from hundreds of people over the last three years about wait times, slow communication etc. But again the voice are a little quieter when they don't have much invested. Great job verifying that merger by the way. That was a simple, but smart way of doing it. Also good point about the rental rig repairs. I didn't even think of that when I edited the video. I do wonder though how much of this has to do with supply chain issues and labor force issues. This is plaguing the industry as a whole. We even mentioned it in our build video. It set us back so much that we ended up just grabbing the all-in-one power system from Ecoflow. It turned out to be a blessing, but at the time I was chomping at the bit to get out and we couldn't get the supplies we needed. Basically the build got delayed an entire year. Interesting statement about RKS. A good place to find out more about that would be XGRID in Las Vegas beings they carry RKS as well as all the other fun Australian campers. Thanks for the really thoughtful comment. It was fun seeing this trailer through your eyes.

@@PlayingwithSticks glad to contribute. What maybe separates Overkill from other trailer manufacturers that have supply chain and labor shortage issues is thar statement by the owner in IG. They don't have the funds to build any of the trailers or refund any of the deposits folks have down on these trailers. If I understand his post correctly they will need to take orders and build new customers rigs first then maybe from those profits start going back and building the back ordered trailers. That is a ponzi scheme is it not? Then again the other alternative is bankruptcy and nobody gets anything but legal fees. So any criticism you maybe getting doing this video may in fact help all these folks by helping overkill rebound and make amends. Who knows. Hard saying not knowing. I have asked Loren at xgrid about RKS and he does not really have an answer. I don't think he has heard from them. Probably what'd happened is they are seeking investors with production on hold. Very well designed and build rigs FYI- I waited 17 months for my Trail Marker with two large deposits and it was very stressful. All worked out so I hope the same for all the Overkill folk

@@bartman1857 I am not justifying what they are doing. As you can tell from the post there will be lawsuits coming their way. You can tell they are trying to get ahead of them and get production going before more lawsuits tumble in. My optimistic side is hoping the folks over on the East Coast can ramp up production on this and make things better. Obviously they can't make things right, because what is done has been done.

@@bartman1857 I think Lauren doesn't know I have a feeling your hunch is right.

@@bartman1857 I hope at some point these trailer manufacturers face some competition and are forced to remove these ridiculous down payment requirements.

Love it! I think that is the first I have heard of a Doppledog.

Jared, I would be curious to hear what issues you saw with the older model. It seems like there’s never been a model that hasn’t had some problems that they’ve had continuous changes so we don’t really know how they had a model that never had a failure.

I’m still not sold on that aluminum chassis after seeing that customers complaint, how was the rest of it gonna hold out after one year or two years

55K? Dang that's a lot of dough for a camper! I'll stick with my tacoma with tent on top over lander rig. Plus, less moving parts!

@@brigittebrugger3345 so one of the ones I rented had one of the rear upper shelves riveted in. I put a 2 gallon water tank up there. Went down the road. Not off-road though. Not yet at least. Stopped and realized the shelf had ripped out of the wall. Seemed odd to have such a low weight rating on it. Also the heater I had was the forced air heater and the control was very very finicky. Had to get it right when setting it up and it even shut off at night. Really nice to have the heat when it worked though. Also rear tire carrier was sort of odd in the way that it opened and locked open. Was pretty tough to get it to start swinging closed and to latch closed. The slide was difficult to get the pin in and out but not impossible but was an issue slightly. Also the water heater we had was one of those Instant water heaters. It wasn’t bad but I like the new style. I don’t think they’ve fixed this next issue but I’d really love a kitchen that didn’t have to have any cables or lines connected. Where they just stayed connected, either that or put them in a better, easier to reach location.

@@17fourU yeah I agree. We have decided to do a larger camper, the more traditional campers that you see at the RV dealerships. We we able to find a used one for a really good price. 1 year old. Has bunks for the kids, outdoor kitchen, 2 slides, a full shower and the same amount of fresh water as the overkill camper. Only paid $18k though. We also bought a topper for the truck, and a massive rooftop tent. Reason being. We are on the east coast. Usually only go camping on the weekends. So decided to just take the camper and park it at a camp site with water and electric hookups and unhook and go explore that area and trails in just the truck. This way if we find a cool primitive camp site we can open the RTT and camp there. Then head back to the big camper and take showers and eat dinner and such. The price difference between the overkill $55k price point and the $18k we paid we can pay for a camp site a whole lot before we hit the $55k price point.

He has been erasing the bad comments from real customers! People been taking screenshots and can prove it

Sarah that is absolutely not true. Go back and check out my responses. If you follow them, you will most likely get through. Go check out @mt baker snow removal. He is patient and found a way to get them through.

Thanks David. I appreciate the kind words. Now to find a way to get these comments to not get deleted. Haha. But, it looks like some of the folks are figuring it out.

You have some GREAT points here! I often refer to this as the "space race." At some point we will see the pendulum shift. But I don't think it will be anytime soon unfortunately.

​@@PlayingwithSticks- was out camping this past week and guess what I saw a few sites away from me!? The Overkill!! After a few minutes of bad mouthing it (😉) I went over to talk to the owners. They seemed very pleased with their purchase and gave me the full tour. It is quite a beast of a so called tiny trailer. Was the perfect contrast to my little home on wheels.

@@flisms I love coming across other trailers on my journeys. Especially trailers like this. And I completely understand the bad mouthing. But, also glad to hear the owners were enthused with their purchase. It really is a special trailer. And yes, a BEAST is a great way of describing this little trailer. Love that you shared this!

How do you not cook?

That’s what these videos are more about for me. It’s less about people buying a trailer and more about us seeing new unique designs and features. Glad you appreciated the idea. I feel the same way about this build.

Miriam I can't remember for the life of me what trailer you own? A T@G or T@B keeps coming to my mind, but I'm not very confident of that.

@Playing with Sticks I scored a mini max, which is perfect for me and my dog.

Hi Lam. Could you share a little more about this...From what I read it seems more like a partnership.

They actually just posted on their Instagram everyone who gave them money for these trailers they have no money and can’t complete the trailers owed. There has been a whole bunch of shady happening , I am out a trailer

@@wildernessrecon Incorrect again, we have made a business decision to partner with another manufacturer. Everyone in our existing queue has the opportunity to receive a camper. Nothing shady happening with us. Just honesty and open communication with everyone involved in this evolution.

Business partnership with a company in PA