it's very possible Nate just made up the sequence in his head. Because if you noticed, Alcazar is voiced by Robin Atkin Downes, who voices many villains in the Uncharted games. Nate may have just used Downes voice for Alcazar because most of his bad guys are voiced by Downes lol Also, Sam acts a lot like Nate would in the situation, like saying "And stay down" after meleeing a foe, although he could have picked up a lot of Sam's mannerisms.
2Good2BeTrue45 I’ll say. You’d think Nate would’ve known about Alcazar’s death from that shootout in Argentina 6 months before the events of Uncharted 4.
@@AB_7092 Rafe is a good villain from a thematic perspective tho. He is in may ways opposite of Nate, or what Nate could've been. Nate's obsession is really in the history and the finds, not really with the wealth itself or even the glory. And even then he has lines he won't cross. He never leaves someone behind, moving to help even foes because he will fight unless is life is or would be in danger if he did not. Rafe on the other hand is the opposite, he may not need the wealth (though I'm sure he would appreciate breaking even at the very least) per se, but the glory? He wants the glory at any cost. He does not care for the history, only the end goal. He is like Avery, he wants the glory, the gold, all of it for himself. Nate in the end just wants his brother, but HOW DARE Nathan Drake walk away, having once again made such finds. Did he (Rafe) not work for this for years? And so Rafe tries to kill him. And in turn Nate kills the person he could have been, had he not been parallel to Dismas in many ways. Cause thats the other thing, Rafe is very much like Avery, and Avery thought himself like Dismas, completely missing the lesson in Dismas' story. It is the thief who repents who gets the glory (in this case, it is to his wife which Nate must repent, and in turn it is who forgives him). Avery and Rafe never repent. And so they die, Avery, who's greatest accomplishment in Libritalia, both in its founding and the treasure he stole there, remembered for a lesser score, and Rafe too, forgotten to the world, save for whatever he did outside of the hunt of Avery's gold. Nate is the legend, they merely footnotes. Sam, meanwhile, is somewhere between those worlds. While he can drag Nate back into the life he ran from, he cannot keep him away. Nor can Rafe make him do things such as kill Nate or innocents in the name of the treasure. He has a moral compass, but its broken. Sam maybe driven by glory, but it is glory he wanted to share with, or even gift to, given the moments before Nate manages to save him, his brother. He may not change over the course of the game, but in that he is like Nate in the first Uncharted. He is still in the process realizing which side of that scale he is on, the hunter for glory who acts a bit too much like a hero for his own good, or the man who walks away when he realizes his passion is not with glory, or danger, but the search for the lost and the secret. At least that is my reading of it. And of that, I'm sure only half or less was intentional, but I highly suspect, at the least, Nate being more like Dismas than Avery or Rafe is intentional. And I think providing such an opposite of Nate in why Rafe was the villain and not Hector.
@@hellianstavernarchive937 When first seeing that scene where Alcazar threatens Sam, I was like damn this guy is badass and intimidating. I’m thinking he has the potential to be the best villain in the whole series, but then it was kinda disappointing to see a rich douchebag character be the actual villain. Kinda reminded me of how iron man 3 blue balls us with the Mandarin. I see your point tho, I never really thought of it like that.
@@AB_7092 Literally me when I played Uncharted 4 and got the reveal scene. first Instinct was to calle Rafe a liar lol like nah no waaaayyy -_- I was so excited to run into him at the end of the game.
@@snooppp8873 Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman is a Mexican drug lord, currently serving a life sentence in a US prison. Prior to his arrest he was widely considerd the world's biggest drug trafficker. Known for his multiple prison escapes in Mexico.
@@element021993 I know right tell me about it. I wish the Hector Alcazar story wasn’t phony. That would’ve been awesome to see his thugs against the shoreline mercenaries
I remember this one comment (Don't know if it's in this one or in another playthrough), but this person said _"What really got us convinced in Sam's story is that we play as Sam in this whole chapter. Meaning we automatically believe in this whole charade."_ something like that.
When I played Uncharted 4 for the 1st time I thought Hector Alcazar was the main antagonist but no its Rafe lol. Would of been an interesting story if ND went with Alcazar's story instead.
Judging by the title of this video Hector Alcazar is definitely the Uncharted version of El Chapo. Sometimes I wish the Hector Alcazar story wasn’t a lie I actually did like the guy aside from his voice, and in spite of how he is evil, he definitely had a sense of honor.
Same I was pretty deflated when the truth came out. Like why ruin a potentially legendary villain. Could have been the first cool and smart villain in the series
Me too, I got the chance to be in denial then angry then forgiving when I learned about Sam's lie. I love this game but I will never be able to play the game like I once did.
The characters NEVER TAKE BULLET DAMAGE. The grey screen is just Nate, Sam or Chloe's luck running out (Mainly Nate's) and when that happens, an enemy finally hits them and they die. They got no bullet proof vests, they wear shirts and a human body can't take a bullet and keep jumping, rolling and climbing for fucks sake. Only time where someone gets shot is in Uncharted 2 in that completely bullshit section of climbing the train.
I really like how Nate went against an Army full of trained, well experienced mercenaries with the ammunition of a small country who often are hired to destroy small countries instead of facing a regular Colombian drug lord with a little group, also how did Sam did not think of it since he heard about Nate's previous murdery adventures 😂😂
What a waste. Huge missed opportunity to finally have a villain that is actually smart and a step ahead of our main protagonist. The Jail break scene terrified me for this reason alone. Would have been cool to have a villain actually be just as smart or even smarter then our characters.
So far, Sam was shot and nearly killed, fell from a building, nearly died again trying to escape from prison, had a knife on his neck, and walked all that way to find his brother! Newspaper writer from Iron Will: That guy's a gift from God.
That is for sure😒 I don’t care that Sam lied but i was pissed that the only time we play him was the lie. And i don’t remember the other villains, but Rafe and Asav for the two last Uncharted are just boring generic villains😒 At least Hector was impressive and intimidating
@@breakofdawn5249 I was legit pissed lol I was hyping myself up for the encounter with Alcatraz like "Oh man finally a good villain this is going to be good shit" lmao
I feel like rafe being shit at being a villain is part of his character as well. everything he does, from sneaking into the panama prison, to restarting the search for the treasure, to giving up on life for a shot at killing nate, it's all to try and prove to himself that there's more to him than just a rich heir, and failing anyways
I just reached the part where Rafe tells Nate about Sam lying about Alcazar and god damn am I disappointed Lol I thought here Uncharted finally has a Villain that has screen presence and is actually terrifying. But nah Lol so deflating but oh well we shall carry on.
would've loved if he was actually the main antagonist. of course you still need sam lying to nathan, it would've been cool if sam somehow saved alcazar's life and he let sam go and decided to just work with rafe to find the treasure. then sam lies to nathan and tries to rob the treasure anyway. this way you get to have sam lying and still get to keep this awesome villain in the story. they somehow managed to make an intimidating villain without being a walking cliché or a rehash of lazarevich. there's something inherently scary about an old guy in a business where men die young
I would have love this guy as a villain in just that first scene to me made me think he is the villain in this game or Sam took his place or something because I had a feeling something was going to happen in the game with Sam but he was like a Nathan drake that is a older version because it felt like a clone of him but is a good way that made me love him as a character.
I wonder if some parts of his "story" were true....maybe alcazar was really his cellmate and they talked about the treasure or perhaps hector heard rumors about it but when rafe pulled sam out of prison alcazar was left alone to doing research for the treasure and maybe after that he somehow escape from the prison and while following a trail in argentina he was killed in a shootout perhaps orchestraded by rafe and the shoerline mercenaries because they knew thanks to the informations of sam that alcazar could have been an obstacle in their research because he knew about the treasure......
People are mad at sam for lying to nathan but do you understand that he was just trying to get what he loved doing with his brother back. And he spent 2 years with rafe so he can find facts about Avery. Thats how he got the Cross Info. He didnt mean no harm by it.
I love than the place is in my country Panama, and part of uncharted 1 but what I hate and I know a lot of Hispanic too, is the fact they make them speaks like Mexican, exactly like in Resident Evil 4 is in Spain but they speak like Mexican just because the persons who translate are from there, but really??? At least try to be neutral and don't make them say: "cabron" "pinche" "chingados" WTF!!!!. That ruined this details
Yeah and then Nate kills auction guards but doesn't want to kill Nadine nor Rafe. Plus Nate's mother caughts an *illness* instead of suiciding, like previously stated. Uncharted 4 is fucked up. Edit: Wrote this in a bad day. My perspective has changed since then and I consider this games on the top 3 of the G.O.A.T. games
Jarno Datema I'd like to point out that even though this is fake, those prisoners are not innocent (not defending the killing) but Nathan has killed far more people. A lot more. He didn't kill in cold blood, but still he has ended the lives of many. You forget that Nathan and Sam have stolen and cheated people before. They may have good hearts but they don't exactly have the best morals.
Looking back now, the fact Hector only demands half the treasure should already be a red flag for Nate. You know a bloodthristy drug lord like this who holds all the cards would definitely demand all of it, not just half.
I also think that a red flag was the fact the Hector tells Sam in the van that he said that he knew where the treasure was when Sam said that he could find it. It cannot have been a misunderstanding caused by language barrier because of how fluent Hector was in English , he definetly knows that being able to find it doesnt mean knowing where it is.