@@Polostar79 AND Y'ALL BE WATCHING EVERYTIME HE BE TELLING THEM STORIES ! LMAO P.S. JUST LIKE GENE DEAL BE TELLING BADBOY STORIES FROM 30 YEARS AGO RIGHT ??? 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
Why is it that folks wanna say that Pac took it too far with Hit Em Up but don't wanna say Biggie took it too far when he got on the radio had NY niggas go actually SHOOT UP the Dogg Pound video?
Tupac explained in the Thug Immortal interview that he was consolidating power, not just hyping up record sales. He was killed before he could convert that power into action, but the program he was describing and the coalitions he was building were inspiring. His connections in the movement, the fashion, music and movie industries would have made him very formidable.
His power was joining the bloods after success, getting himself killed, Biggie killed, and destroying hip hop. He sounded good but he glorified gang culture over hip hop culture. It’s been garbage every since.
@@TheNyion912 You mean "fraud" like when Pac, e.g., has shot those Two PIGz, even to Honorably Defend a Black Man from White Terrorism ? Htpti [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You]
That’s why Jay needed to get away from Dame. Everybody thought Jay was an artist and not the business man. Soon as they spit, we realized Jay was really smart about his business on his own.
Hoffa said it right yo they want me dead an they all fuck with the east in some kind of way taken all targets out pacs mentality lol an who dissing the whole music industry these dayz young boy who young boy friends with other then rondo pac rolled with bloods he wasn't one but hanged with them heavy but his best musical partner was a crip in snoop most of his hits were made by a crip name daz
There plenty of people that knew what actually happened the night when Pac got shot and all of them have said Biggie didn't have anything to do with it or knew who did it. Pac believed the biggie knew who shot him since It was his city but at the time he didn't know.
Don't you guys know your hiphop history? Theres at least 3 public incidents of betrayal. Do your own research. P.Diddy re released "Who Shot Ya" after the event and also directly after Pac being "set-up" Big wouldn't even tell Pac who robbed him and shot him.
2pac lied tho... He knew Jimmy set him up... He knew Biggie had nothing to do with it...Suge made him do that... yall 2pac Fanatics think he was tough lol... Thats the actor in him
It’s always Tupacs fault. *But Wolf killed Big Jake from Deathrow, at point blank range. *Puffy & Bad Boy shytted on Pac in Vibe Magazine after he got shot up at Quad. When they thought he was by himself, with no backup. *Biggie jumped on the radio in NYC and instigated The Dogg Pound video set being shot up. What this is about, and always has been about is. The perception that Deathrow was the more aggressive & stronger of the 2 groups beefing. And ppl from NYC hate that LA nggaz took it to them. This is what most fans perceive outside the New YorK area. Just own it & be real!!
I remember me and my brother hearing hit em up for the first time here in new york lol, we couldn't believe what we was hearing, i never heard a diss song like that before, and there was no diss songs like that in hip hop at the time. That song was like a declaration of war, of course there was no vaseline and that was personal but not to the extent of hit em up. after hit em up came out you felt like someone was gonna die after lol. Of course hit em up seems very tame now compared to these demonic ass drill diss songs these kids do nowadays but for 96 that song was wild.
Real moths fuckin gz Pooh man ain’t no love going at too short dude quick dolllaz an sence an many others just had to listen to more then the most mainstream rappers to find it
Another difference is pacs song was just music they other songs I named they was really beefing in the streets poohman shot up shorts studio ruthless an death row both had street politics/gangs backing them am me eght an dj quik was from a blood an drip set. Pac was just running his mouth on a song
It amazes me that everyone blames Jay and won’t hold Dame accountable. Yes, Jay was the artist originally, but once they started signing other artists, his position in the company changed.
It’s easy to blame j because he more Successful and jay don’t talk about it only threw his music. Nobody ever said damn was stealing company money falsifying the books and trying to be bigger then the artist and talking to the artist like he’s over him And many more things
Look how many people stopped messing with Dame. Biggs, Jim Jones and the list goes on. Look at Dames financial situation. He made just as much money as Hov and Biggs yet he’s hurting. If he is suppose to be this great business man why is he struggling.
Because black people have a tendency to side with the dead and downtrodden damn near no matter what they may have done. Even if they were doing snake moves, taking deals from their so called friends, stealing money from their partners, making decisions without their partners, taking peoples jobs away for no good reason. It’s like a hatred of success. Was surprised to hear someone as grown as Ralph express that though.
I think from Tupac he was hurt by the fact he and Biggie were friends and he felt Biggie had knowledge of the shooting and didn't give him an heads up. That's the part Tupac kept mentioning.
That was foolish thinking on his part. Tupac knew who sent that shooting at him and he knew it wasn’t Big yet he picked the easiest target he could find. Sucker move.
Took on Bad Boy and Jay-z. Bootcamp Click, Grey Nice, Naughty by Nature , Eric B., Queen Latifah, Moni Love, all East Coast, were boys with Pac. Ask Nepolian from Outlawz who held Pac down in jail, the Puerto Ricans becauee Fat Joe sent a kite to the jails telling them to look out for Tupac. Eric B the one that told Tupac to squash it with Nas. Wu-tang had no beef with Tupac even had Method Man and Redman on All Eyez on Me
They talk about Pac like he was just a rapper The Man was a revolutionary! Y’all ain’t heard in a interview that when he went to Jail, it was inmates ready to turn up for him!!
PS4games Only - what did he do so profound and definitely would like to know what did you revolutionize? He wasn't just a rapper, he was a lost boy who never matured.
@@1300mikehoward You an rats on east coast are the only ones that feel that way. Go to Europe, Africa & Asia an ask mans on the street who message click with ‘em in hip hop even today - it’s Tupac. That’s why these cats on here still talk about him til today, love him or hate him, dead or alive he’s still KING!
I remember 2018 I was in Poland on travel an just happened to pop in a pub and they played All Eyez on Me album, start to finish. Mufos was spitting song after song an they aint even know English, brav. Crazy! I mean even Thai hoochies know that nigga. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MrFocus316 those countries worship any American celebrity. And that’s because they don’t know him like that. They only hear songs and interviews. What would it say about you, if the people overseas who don’t really know you LOVED you, but the people at home who have known you all of your life, don’t feel the same? That means that the people at home know something about you that those outside people don’t
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 but it's kind of funny how he whooped they ass and they came back with guns like b****** like most of you 🦀 are can't fight but he quick the shoot somebody Tupac all day everyday skip crab n*****😂😂😂😂
On this situation this wasn’t Tupac fault this wasn’t biggie Fault we all have to think about who was the middleman his name starts with a P🤔 and he’s gone by a mini of alias names P.S YOU Dare not to say his Name😱
Pac was young. Why do niggaz overlook that fact. Young niggaz make mistakes, but stop saying Pac took it too far. Pac did what he felt was right. I hate ppl who hate Tupac.
It's something else when the only time big gets brought up in discussion is about the beef between him and Pac. When Pac gets brought up in discussion not only the beef was apart of his legacy with big but Pac also gets talked about without the beef so pac has more of a lengthy biography of countless story events of his life. Big is big in NY and somewhat semi international but Pac is big all over the world even in the most remote places Pac is known.
Let Tupac Rest, my God. We should focus and teach the young about his work ethic, intelligence which was on another level. Learn from his mistakes in order to grow.
Pac and Biggie would have lived 5 or 6n more years hip hop wouldn’t have been so saturated with this Shit-Hop music that exist today because Bad Boy Death Row And Wi-Tang music was the bar back then
@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 he probably would retired from rap. Dmx probably Would’ve been on Death Row East. Cause Suge was trying to get the Ruff Riderz
This episode touches on something important. An artist can be big in their respective coast but not necessarily in the other coast. Nipsey is a good example. I'm from Cali but I've spent some time on the east coast - dudes really weren't connecting with Nipsey like that. This was when he was still alive.
He wasn’t big in the south either. He’s garnered a lot respect in his passing though now that cats have went back and peeped his words and interviews. It’s his words and actions more than his music to me.
Nooooo big getting a video shoot shot up!!! That’s going to far I love bigg but I feel like he poisoned the game with the money cars and clothes bulshit now that’s all you hear and all you is chains
Shout out discretion tv for bringing it to the internet 21 gun salute that y pac said see the competition flashing my jewelry dem dudes had hush up jewelry from quad studio on the low pass ing pac jewelry around
Man.. everybody seems to forget Biggie was wearing Tupac's versace rings that were robbed off of him at quad studio's.. Biggie deserved everything that Tupac said..
Uncle Ralph has a book in him. He needs to write a book. He's witness so much in the industry. Would love to hear more stories from him. The interview wasn't long enough. Props though. 👋🏼🙏🏼📚
Tupac was right , how could he of took it to far when biggie was talking about crazy stuff on Brooklyn's finest , Tupac was a black panther in the 90's no biggie lyric could come close to being that hard
Tupac gets set up by bad boys affiliates then months later who shot ya gets released by that same record label, but sure, he’s at fault for responding to their taunts.
Exactly, the bias is crazy, one reason why I don't F with a lot of east coast rappers, if any at all, their personalities is foul, Tupac Shakur the G.O.A.T anyway
. years in solitary confinement. No one should forget the other prisoners such as Mumia Abu Jamal, Ruchell Magee, Sundiata Acoli, and Dr. Mutulu Shakur.
I met PAC at Rucker park when Above the Rim was being filmed. I have a pretty good judge of character and one thing I noticed about dude is that he wasn’t very aware of his surroundings. He was wearing the chain with the diamond encrusted cross while breaks in between shooting of the film with no care. I think he was caught up in the line light and loved the attention from fans. Never once caring about who may jack em. Maybe he felt like the hood would never betray him since he loved the hood. Either way dude had a presence that was undeniable. Rip Pac
Yea he admitted in a interview that he never thought someone black would do anything to him because he felt he was the representative for black ppl. So what you saying makes sense. He's originally from east harlem and left ny at age 13 so he probably felt like he was home and no need to worry or be aware.
Big was the one who officially kicked off the East vs West wars. By going on Funk Flex show and saying. How y'all gonna let the Dogg Pound shoot a video in NYC?
Biggie got killed because it seems like Biggie was Disrepecting Pac (In L.A.) But the whole thing is, Biggie was tryin' to show love for Pac at that radio station but to everbody in LA ..IT SEEM FAKE.. BIGGIE SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN L A THAT SOON.....
This is after Suge dissed the whole Bad Boy in NYC at the Source Awards and after Pac dissed Biggie for almost a whole year publicly since yall have selective memory. Yall want more respect than yall gave.
The reason is he went to la to soon and its not just that, he went there to promote his album and make money plus going to parties. LA saw this as disrespect. If he would of there just to pay homage to pac. I dont think they would of kill him. His arogance and going to parties and making videos in a place where pac was worship as a god, was a sign of disrespect.
Like jay Z said.. you would rather work separately/someone else outside the culture to make it like you make more money instead of working with/or for me to make money and progress. Though jay z signed a deal with some billionaires that helped him get into position his in, Damn and jay knows what really happened and the reason. Everyone decisions has a right and wrong, just at times ppl don’t know the difference .!
That building was 463 7th Ave of 35th St.. My showroom was the next block at 485 7th Ave. I remember them days seeing Beanie and Dame going in and out that building.
How? Unc was earning all the while pursuing his dreams. I believe hiphop should salute him but no bag is necessary. Hiphop needed Ralph just like Ralph needed hiphop. Wasn't fo' rap what was Ralph going to showcase county western, perhaps those racist ass Rock punks? C'mon now, it's an even exchange, big up to the Box, Ralph you are a legend 👏🏽
Pac felt a way about fans downplaying west coast rappers lyrical ability compare to east coast's - NY in particular. That was his main motivation to go at BIG. He felt if he could take down arguably the best to ever do it then the west would be stamped due to his efforts. Listen to some of his interviews. It's written all over them. Son was on some high key hating sh!t, but he really loved the way NY niqqaz rap. He wanted the same recognition.
@@mohmhk Your point is pointless. It's blatant contradictory on Pac's part. YOu clearly didn't see my point. I saw yours which Is why I responded that way.
I was in 6th grade when all of this bs beef was going in I didn’t understand it all I remember was it was east coast vs west coast! And I was for The east coast bc that’s where I am from! It’s was senseless and it’s sad that ppl still debate about it! Rest In Peace Tupac and Biggie!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
I dont know why Pac never had that same energy with the niggas that shot him squad studio Haitian jack and jimmy Heichman people .. he knew them ppl were not the people to fuck with he didnt want smoke with them
@@TheShadow84 yah if u listen to track he didnt go off on them niggas like he went off on biggie puffy and all of them he got out of jail october 1995 didnt say nothing about them niggas until late 96 Pac didnt want smoke with them Haitian jack and jimmy heichman they were not the ppl to fuck with and Pac knew that
@@fah232 yah okah i understand but he still got shot by them Pac knows Hatian Jack and Jimmy Heichman boys shot him squad studio and never went on record and say Fuck them niggas like he did with puffy and biggie like i said Pac didnt want smoke with them cause he knew that they were gonna fuck him up
Math hit it on the head when he said that Pac overdid it to sell records.I fell the same way.He took it too far to sell records and he could not get at the cats who actulaly shot him so, he chose the easier target,BIG.It cost both of their lives.
Nigs try kill me & set me up in rape case & think im gonna go easy on them ??? When im free back by death row ???? Im Wilding and going at everyone connected with situation! & he was 25 still sum what immature in his choices but wasnt we all ! At 25
What you're saying is bullshit, because pac got at the dudes who set him up and shot him the same way he came at Big. He named every dude who was involved with the shooting, and he named Big because Big was supposed to be his man, but when pac got upstairs all shot up, Big didn't even come over to him to see what happened. Big was supposed to be like..." someone call 911!" Something.
@@elliot2177 yes it is. Because everything I wrote here is the truth. Why didn't Big run over to pac once pac got upstairs? Pac said Big, diddy and Andre Harrell kept their distance.
