What are your thoughts on the Millennium Tower sinking issue? How do you think such challenges should be addressed in urban development? Share your insights below.
My thoughts about you calling this building an "8 story tower"? You people have literally no idea what you're talking about. I could suggest for you how to do your your job, but You're not paying me enough for that effort.
I worked for an underpinning company. We underpinned existing buildings when substructures (basements) were deeper than the existing adjacent structure. We would underpin hundreds of feet to bedrock before excavating for the new building. We also did the pile driving and lagging needed for the new structure. But all buildings we underpinned were sitting on firm foundations without lean or sinking problems. Any attempt to underpin such a building without firm foundation would be a real pig in the poke so to speak. Lean might become more severe or sinking might increase due to soil disturbance. I would never attempt to underpin this building. It needs to be torn down so as to prevent collapse. It goes without saying that such project was without thought for proper and well-established buiding technology. And as such the builder, archetect, inspector (government) hold most if not all responsibility for this fiasco.
My family runs Freemasonry with the notion of "The Master Architect" as its governing mefaphor. This entire fiasco has been initiated by way of ritual, as failure by design. If you examine the participants, chief among the anointed experts involved is a man named Pike, as in "Pike's Place" coffee at Starbucks, or Albert Pike as the Master Freemason who authored "Morals and Dogma" and founded the KKK etc.. The pike fish also being known as the lucy is the fish that symbolizes the luciferian tradition, hence the emergence of "I Love Lucy" on CBS (see B.S.) back in the day. So this entire fiasco is nothing but a staged show which per the dictates of the black magicians (pedophile serial killers) who rule will most certainly be exploited for the promotion of a myriad of occult purposes, the most obvious of which is to create a distraction from the ongoing plan to turn our society into a genocidal slave state. Humanity being a garbage species by definition, it's astonishingly easy to set up such events as this, brecause nobody will accuse those in charge (my family) of conspiring to commit a crime. We ive to scapegoat the poor for the sins of the powerful, to such a degree that Christianity itself has devolved to the status of Satanism in the name of the savior. Nobody really cares about any of these topics as the only pupose for most people is to get their genitals licked and their dung eaten directly out of their bung-hole...in Jesus' holy name. Amen...whatever.
When greed overrides proper engineering . Original cost do it right , additional 5 million to go to bedrock . Probable total cost after removal 600 billion + after which you have vacant lot in which load bearing strata has been compromised by left over piers and piles from tear down and subsequent attempted fix
This video left out a crucial fact. The City, against the advice of its own experts, allowed the tower to be built without attaching it to the bedrock. Usually, it would have to be attached, but the developers wanted to build it as cheaply as possible. It would've been cheaper to do it right the first time. Now, the underpinnings are making the problem worse.
Correct. There is a high compression force, on that mud/sand subground base. AND, ALL THE WHILE - CREWS chew up the mud/sand, and the on-going hi-compression, causes a fluid motion, of mud, to less compressed areas ; '' where their drilling those piles.....'' Kind of like trying to patch, a hole in a tire, WHILE THERE IS AIR PRESSURE IN IT. doofus engineers'.......give your SPACE - LESS illogical H E A D A SHAKE.....before this tower, falls/sinks / tips over. Just keep mucking around in the muck......the buildings' weight, will TALK BACK TO YOU ...very soon.
Part of me hates this video, the constant cuts, the constant effects. It was like it was designed to do something every 8 seconds (because the under 30 demographic have had their brains fried by cell phones). The information is good, the video editing is clearly tik-tok generation.
I’ve been a firefighter/paramedic for over 27 years. My “specialty” has been heavy rescue / technical rescue and structural collapse. I am currently a Battalion Chief of a city fire department and I am the team leader of an urban search & rescue unit that has responded around the globe. The reason I listed some of my experience…? I strongly advocate that the Millennium Tower be dismantled in place ASAP! The seismic challenges posed by the physical location in SF are mind boggling. I am not 100% certain that other city buildings built properly and to current IBC and Cali standards, would survive a major earthquake…. Yet I’m nearly certain that the Millennium Tower will be a nightmare. Thank you for your video.
Thank you for your perspective. I've seen engineering videos on this (well done) and you're the first emergency response person I've seen weighing in. Very well said. I agree the building is going to have to be dismantled.
Aside from the bad cutting, the film also shows photos of NYC and other cities while describing the millennium tower. Not to mention the computer voice mispronouncing thing.
2:25. Graphics and voice describe the tower as “8 story…skyscraper”. I could only watch 1/2 way thru as the quick cuts makes the video unwatchable. Fascinating subject, very poor presentation .
@@ng-marc The San Andreas fault runs thru the entire bay area. In fact, it runs from the north endzone to the south endzone of Cal's football stadium in Berkley.
@terrylessmann2274 Yes, thats what I thought. Do the city engineers really think the building would remain standing if the big one hit tomorrow? Who would be liable for all tenants' lives, God forbid? Isn't there an iconic SF building right across the street? Dominoes at that scale would be horrific. Fairly sure they sell insurance ironically. Hope the city engineers are being listened to my management and the administration. The citizens affected deserve safe homes, especially if they paid $1.2 million. Yikes!
As a residential builder, l am responsible for the project from start to finish an all between. If built by the the plans, inspections an all entities associated with the project. All who sign off on the project, have legal, ethical an financial obligations. I believe it isn't,the owners cost bearing responsibility to bear the price of repair. The enitities invoice need to be held j responsible an jointly bear the total cost. Not the home owners or the tax payers of San Francisco.
good luck with that statement. You know the uber wealthy clients will get a legal reason to make the city taxpayers pay for the demolition and the pile driving fiasco.
If I pretend I'm an experienced contractor building big things, I would recognize an issue like this early on. I think I would recognize the problem because I was taught in grade school to build to bedrock in San Francisco. If they sign off and you're told to continue, they call that a "conundrum"
I agree with @dasShaten, too much clutter & custer & mustard in this video with the constant cuts & scenes, i would be confused after watching this video, & HOW COULD YOU CUT THE MARBLE SCENE...YOU NEED TO SHOW THE MARBLE ROLLING BACK...
Oops. Mellinium Tower is not the tallest building in San Francisco. The tallest building is the Salesforce building, which is practically across the street from Mellinium Tower.
The Millennium tower is the perfect summary of why San Francisco is turning into shit, the figurative and literal definition of the credibility is sinking. -Coming from a Northern Californian resident.
In my opinion you are just prolonging the inevitable. This mistake should have a controlled demolition or it will perform it’s own demolition. As someone once said “you can’t fix stupid” the after thought change from steel to concrete was just stupid on a building this tall. Let’s not discuss sinking the building in mud.
This channel caters to the low attention span geeks, the ones who can't focus for long on any one image. I endured 2 minutes and had to leave. One thousand subs says it all..
A collapse would be catastrophic beyond imagination with the new huge multi agency bus and future speed rail terminal next to and at the base of this thing not to mention the many other buildings surrounding the MT AND the thousands of people in those buildings and on the sidewalks. The HEAVY concrete and not "lighter" (more like not as heavy) steel construction. That would cripple that entire part of SoMa District and Rincon Hill neighborhood full of luxury townhomes, apartments and condominium complexes. WHAT A NIGHTMARE
The tax payers are going to have to pay for the fixes. How a about paying to take it down before it falls down. And making the developers pay for the demolition of the crap they built.
The narator talking too fast in. the highly annoying backround noise in combination (as someone else before me already commented) with the editting, sadly indeed makes this vid unwatchable unless you enjoy getting a headache. Better luck next time;)
The building is too heavy to be pushed up and straightened out. Everything is is twisting and the foundation is cracked and twisted. There is NO fix it needs to be taken down but nobody wants to hold that bag or pay that bill
29 inches is a lot but your thumbnail is misleading. From that distance one would not be able to discern the lean with the naked eyes. Is the leaning a problem? Yes, a major problem.
The only solution will be to take the tower down, when they started putting the extra piles in more problems started they reduced the number to 18 I believe. Personally, I believe they will demo the tower piece by piece. lesson to be learned on sandy land or clay Piles go into bedrock period.
Sorry, I stopped when every building except mellinium tower was represented. Some images were from New york. It's not just me. This is a very bizarre production. Younger generations will grow up with this thinking it's OK. Doom!
I really could not follow what you were trying to say. Too many entertainment additions and culture references made this very hard to follow what was going on here. Simplify man. And maybe cut a few of the Jenga references.
Most builders discover ways to cut corners and save money during the construction process. Why should we use 6 nails when we can get away with only using 2? Then, years later after the builder has ridden off into the sunset with saddlebags stuffed with cash, those deficiencies begin to manifest themselves in the most predictable ways. Its all about the money. Clearly, this building should be demolished and rebuilt. But safety will take a back seat to the cost of doing that. This is not going to end well but money involved is much more important than the lives that will be lost when this thing comes down.
Piss poor graphics and editing. Too much too fast. I wonder of they remove the top 10-15 floors if that would reduce the load on the piles to help stabilize.
What a horrible video. Facts wrong (8 stories?), bad AI voice-over, all stock photographs. Not worth watching at all. There's good videos about this building with lots of good information.
I like all the shots of the unfinished, leaning tower in NYC, while talking about SF. Also, it's not the tallest building in SF... not even the tallest in the neighborhood. What a terrible attempt at a video.
Difficult as it is to feel sorry for the billionaires who bought units in this building, I lay the blame firmly on the city government. It was they who approved building this building on sand, rather than bedrock. I realize it's a bit much to expect can't-be-fired california government employees to read the documents they are approving; but if I had been a buyer, I might have trusted that everyone was doing their job. The city caused this problem (as well as all their other problems); it is on them now to own it. By which I mean, unfortunately, the beleaguered and unappreciated taxpayers. Let's hope there are no earthquakes - or strong southeast winds - until they do. But really, dude... you need to pay a human narrator.
@1:45 "It proudly wears the crown of being the tallest building in San Francisco." Uhhhhh... NOPE. It's 6th on the list. Do some research before you start speaking.
An 8 story 648 ft tower ??? 8 stories ??? 648ft ??? so each floor is 81ft high ? damn those are some mighty high ceilings. no wonder the thing is falling over. C'mon guys, I get this was a typo, read by an AI synthesized voice, but not catching such an obvious error is a comment on the video as a whole. The millennium Tower is 58 floors. Also the tallest building in San Franscisco is the Salesforce Tower at over 1000 ft (second is the TransAmerica pyramid at 848 ft. Both dwarf the Millenium tower (and even your nausea enducing editing dewmonstrates clearly that it is not the tallest buiding in SF.) I think I'll quit this video before you make more ludicrous claims. Proof-read your copy before publishing in future.
Let Oprah Winfrey live in the side that isn't sinking 😅 who the hell thought it was okay not to dig the pilings very deep? A big earthquake isn't due until 2050 and between letting people sleep on the sidewalk and stay drunk and high I'd just move to Oakland.😊
Hideous video "editing" makes this unwatchable with no clips longer that 0.5 seconds. Did you have anything interesting to say? I 'll never know i simply couldn't watch it. =FAIL=
Would the proposed underpinning at the end of the video have been used to remove some or all of the building's tilt or merely to stop it from getting worse?
I am so dead at the AI voice. I kinda wanna sample the hilarious “one-teen” and “men-tee-own” parts. This is a great example of why AI will never fully replace people 😂
