Uncut Interview - Oswald's Raleigh Call : Dr. Grover Proctor. Jr. 

Dr. Proctor is an unbiased fact finder.....a true investigator.

Proctor is an excellent researcher. Fascinating.

One thing I like about this man is that he doesn’t seem to be leaning to one side or the other. He seems to be honestly seeking truth as I also am

One thing that is 100% irrefutable. There is verbal testimony from a Doctor who was actually in the trauma room, and standing behind JFK's head at the time he was in Parkland. He stated he saw an approximate 5" diameter hole in the back of his head, and could see into his skull. This is a very significant size hole. He further stated that while he was standing there, part of JFK's brain fell out onto the table. This interview is still online, and can be viewed by anyone. Now if take that testimony into account, how then, can the Government show pictures of what is supposed to be JFK's head, and the back of his head is completely intact. There is a photo as part of the "Official" autopsy that was supposedly taken from directly behind his head. It is virtually impossible for the back of his head to be 100% intact as it's depicted the photo. I believe the doctor's explanation of what he saw. He was just inches from the presidents head, so there certainly wasn't a mistake in what he saw. There were pictures online a long time ago that appeared to be correct. You could see that the back of his head was blown out. Now those pictures are not to be found. At least I couldn't find them. So if you take these two pieces of information, the doctors description of what he saw, and the "Official" autopsy picture showing the back of JFK's head intact, you can only come to one conclusion. Someone in the government didn't want the truth to come out. For what reason's I cannot say. But this is why we will never hear the truth. The government cannot allow the truth to be known because of what it will reveal. Not that most people don't already know they do some shady things. The problem is, that the shady thing that was done was done to our own president. Just the mear fact of what all of this implies assures me we will never, ever know what really happened.

So interesting - My step-mother and Dr. Proctor were close friends and partners in the Wayne State University Education Doctoral Program. I had dinner with him a few times. The RU-vid algorithm pointed me to one of these videos.

I was 13 years old in UK when I saw Oswald say "I'm a patsy" on TV. I have allways thought If you have accomplished you greatest mission in life. Why would you say that ?

Y'all are missing the point.....Oswald got that job through Ruth Paine's connection long before the trip to Dallas and definitely before the parade route was announced....route wasnt published until a few days before and it was changed from original route to the route that took it past the TSBD in Dealy Plaza....so any set up had to quick or on the fly but the conspirators had inside knowledge of when and where so it would be easuer to have those with power change the route in order to make the crossfire easier to execute. Paine didn't set up Oswald directly.....the conspirators set up Oswald no matter where he worked that day

He puts the issue in fine perspective. He knows Oswald was more than a 'Lone Nut' and that the story goes deep

I can't believe I am watching this, it showed up later after watching something else. You gentlemen are doing a great job and the man in the leather jacket appears to know Dallas pretty good. The city of Dallas has a mafia unlike any other. Most of the men involved are now deceased so there secrets will forever be hidden. I was raised up as a son within this family so oh how much I know and even that gets sketchy. See I was never given names because everyone covers for each other and it has always in my life been this way. If you were to speak out against any of the people involved you will disappear and not just in Dallas because the layers go much further. These men are on the right track but I must ask what good does it do now to solve it and doing further research will only create more death? You cannot undo the past and absolutely we should have never had our President assassinated. I can never claim any one person was behind it I wasn't even born yet so I will tell you don't focus on the shooter, it's pointless.But the money thrown to Dallas to build it and create job growth is astonishing post assassination, many families became Uber wealthy. It will never change and its too big to try to change. If you speak you will die and it goes on more than people think. Most people don't even know they are or were part of a crime family and it has been kept that way to protect them. My family stayed alive because my Grandfather would not testify. I completely understand why.

Fascinating interview. I had not seen this before. No doubt IMO the #1 Unsolved Mystery of the 20th century.

Nothing new but 100% spot on

No ammunition was found in Ruth Payne's garage or the boarding house room according to police inventories. So Oswald had four rifle shells and nine 38 bullets to his name. Thrifty assassin eh?

More Tippit info. Excellent. I wish we had info on the ballistics of the Tipitt bullets that were found. Great Video.

Fascinating. Does someone has a link about that frame in Orville Nix film that shows One of the shooter near the fence ?

Absolutely amazing to see someone intellectually honest doing research into the JFK assignation. Honestly after all the kookery around it I didnt even know there was anyone who was taking a look at the evidence skeptically. The thing about real skeptics is we dont just discount that some conspiracy could have happened. We just try and honestly assess the evidence and try to draw an honest conclusion. Yeah some things do of course seem odd, and patterns emerge. But would we find these kinds of oddities and "patterns" if we investigated anything as much as people have the JFK assassination? I think all of this needs further investigation but anyone who is hones would say they cant draw any conclusions yet.

I wonder if Jack Ruby’s .38 forensics matches the Tippet bullets....or the primer marks...

can i point this out. in the other clip on this subject, at around the 15 minute mark in, the presenter introduces a receipt of Oswald's that is marked, 33919. I just wanted to remark that when matched with its corresponding numeral or letter that read c cia I.

Incredible story

Excellent

who was the interviewer? Sounds a little like Mike Ruppert, but not quite.

Please, just be satisfied with where everything originated. LBJ. Bye.

Good interview.

To raise "reasonable doubt" I would point to the fact Lee said himself he was a "patsy" , Lee was given the job at TBD from Ruth Paine, only thing linking Oswald to the rifle (which is in serious doubt if it was a carcano or a Mauser) is the fake name Alex Hiddell meaning anyone could of order the rifle with the name and open the p.o. box in that name and it 9nly exists to link it to Lee as it would of been far easier to go into a store and use the fake name to get the same rifle it was only mailed ordered in order for it to be Traced to Lee.... The backyard photos of Lee are super suspect, Lee pistol misfired when arrested but sopposively it killed Tippet, a wallet was sopposively found at the tippet scene with the A. Hiddel card in it but Lee had his wallet when arrested at Movie theater.... Plus the fact there were a reported number of serect service agents on the ground at the plaza right after the shooting or at least identifying as such is also another good reason to have doubt about the one sided case presented as the Warren Report

Wow

There is not a human being on Earth that can take advertisements every few seconds to get through this content. RU-vid and Google have invented the perfect level of annoyance with their 'business' to destroy it. One business failure, will be another business's success.

Yes

I grew up many years ago in West Tampa, and many people use to tell me that it's someone walking around here that look totally identical to you Eric, and his name is Clover Baker... One day I finally met him and both of us agreed that people was telling us both the same thing, I found out he was a couple of years older than me though so we couldn't have been separated at birth, because we would Be the same age if that was the case... I was known as Eric Patrick Gilyard at that time but I would find out many years later that their was another guy name Eric P. Gilyard that lived in another city here in Florida but his middle name was Purnell, but he looked nothing like me and Clover Baker... I was just telling this true story because I've been accused of doing many evil things that I did not do, and I think this is the reason why, and I think the police know this but they will still use it to watch you or still use it on certain Black women because they don't want that particular Black woman to give you a chance, Oh yeah they do stuff like that don't think they won't brothers.

As former Harris County Prosecutor Kelly Siegler says about circumstantial evidence and coincidence...if each one is taken individually, it's easily broken, but if each one is taken and added as a total with all others then it becomes a total story of what happened, and more important than dna.

Mr Paine had connections to the defense sector and Mrs Payne spoke Russian. They were in on it

The idea this was a "crank call" seems implausible to me. I'm sure many people had the idea to call the Dallas jail that night. And I highly doubt that switchboard operators were tasked with writing them all down.

Ty

too bad the interviewer has no mic. good job

Theres an excellent video called Everything is a Rich Mans Trick. Watch it. Great info.

I lived on Mills Street off Whitaker mill road. In 1963.

I heard this from a Chinese kid I worked with he said the Chinese belief and I agree with it in 100 years all new people which makes sense. Example I know my grandfather but I never met my great grandfather he was dead before I was born. So I feel in 2063 it will finally all be declassified. No one at that point will be around to really care anymore or to be incriminated. Sad but true.

Can't hear the interviewers questions.

If his theory is correct, why Jack Ruby? Also were there any other parallel people to Oswald?

Listen

The Altgens photo's, the photo at the moment the first shot happened, no one is looking up at the 6th floor, they are looking at the front door of the of the TSBD and behind at the Dal-Tex building.

O my

had Oswald memorized the numbers his wallet presumably had been confiscated earlier?

When even David Lifton thinks you're nuts you know it's bad.

The card was given to me my Mrs Jane Videtech...in the summer of 92...

The truth is out there. The "Research Community" has done an amazing job given all the road blocks. Maybe those of us that are still young enough might learn the truth. However I worried about the aging of the research community and interest being lost.

I can understand the interviewer can't hear what he's saying

Why is the interviewers voice so hard to understand in these interviews?

Not me

In conclusion, they discuss the possibility that of the many theories, someone may have gotten it right. It is a purposeful myth that there are many theories. That is intended to induce frustration and resignation among the public. There are just a small handful of plausible theories. There are, however, many aspects to the case that spawn a plethora of leads, connections and facets. But they all generally fall under a prevailing theory of whodunit. Suffice it to say that we know who didn't do it. We know who likely and primarily was involved. We know many of the those tertiary players involved and we know who benefited from The Big Event and the ensuing coverup. In 1976 it would seem outlandish sensationalism to suggest that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved. In 1980, it would seem like political speculation. In 1988, after Iran-Contra, it was still off the radar of most everyone. In 2021, there is a long, sordid and telling history with new evidence that makes Bush 41 a likely benefactor and participant as well.

How does she know Oswald's voice?-hE COULD BE TALKIN TO ME ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW AND i WOUDN'T KNOW IT WAS HIM

I like this guy. He has a sober take on the matter. However, just in passing he mentions one of the most bizarrely unlikely conclusions that has ever been drawn on the events that and which has been unthinkingly repeated endless times ever since, namely that the crowd of people who ran "toward the grassy knoll" did so in the evident belief that that was where the shots were fired from and that therefore that mass movement is corroborative of the theory of the grassy knoll shooter. Just think for a moment how blindingly unlikely such as sequence of events is: just after hundreds of unarmed civilians have simultaneously witnessed the murder of a man in the middle of the street they decide en masse to chase down the presumably still armed murderer themselves. What crowd of civilians have ever done such a thing? Much more likely that for a large percentage of the people in the Plaza that trajectory toward the railroad yards behind the grassy knoll looked like the shortest path to escape the killing zone to safety. The mass movement toward the railroad yards therefore does not corroborate the theory of a grassy knoll shooter, for which in any case other evidence does exist.

I'm scared

RIP Lee

Smart

To me when LBJ pulled a printed copy of the (Oath of office) from his shirt pocket...that is damming evidence! Smoking gun

If you know Ruby's timeline, you know he wasn't there on an assignment. He was doing something completely different moments before and barely made it there in time, plus probably only got in because the single guard at the entrance was preoccupied helping another officer when Ruby arrived. But -- one of the most interesting things is Ruby's statement that the world will never know what happened. But that shouldn't be taken to necessarily mean that he knew what happened.

Fr

Carlos Marcello ordered it.

I love the term "conspiracy theory", which is the common negative category for all those who question historical data--now emerging so consistently--concerning this dark period in our nation's history. I advise all to read Phillip Nelson's book "LBJ, The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination."

No

The phone call, who it was to is a critical connector

Ah, yes. You can never go wrong thinking that LBJ is genuine. I can stop at 1:46.

He not

No me

Maybe a new meta-analysis will be done by someone in this anniversary year - 2023.

My dad

j.edgar hoover supplied all the data to the commission... little or no research was done by the commission!!

Doesnt

"The Big Event"," the Big Event", "the Big Event"! Believe It ! Believe your lying eyes and your lying ears. Develop some character of truth in your life and your eyes will see and your ears will begin to hear. Men pleasers will always be blind and deaf!

leads me to believe that the numbers may have come from the trash can. they were stolen she had no right to remove them from work. telephonic operators code rule 1

There never discuss Sweeney denial of all this bullshit. Treon and Swinney had different accounts so did Treon and her daughter they talk about the HSCA but they dont mention their conclusion.

So

What I don't understand is that if Lee Harvey Oswald and his impostor went to the same school together and had practically the same name and they looked identical, you mean to tell me they didn't know each other.

Who stood to gain by JFKs death? The VP.

@AlienCityTV Put it in the reverse: how does LHOs employer, best friend at work, best friend until April, mentor, landlady, Officer Tippitt (if LHO killed him), hos other landlady, & after all that his own murderer, Jack Ruby, as clear of suspicion as qa conspirator - even with LHO as the lone shooter on the day. Which for reason of Connallys recollection, only 12 years later validated by the remaining Z-film, should be discounted. Incredibly that's what happened. Now let's recall the DA Henry Wade went on to make more wrong convictions for murder than did any DA in 3,999 other US counties. Think a few fingerprints were planted, a few weapons & shells thrown down, so all that could happen? How many city cops would you have to plant from CIA, or reward & co-opt, as per Det Pena in RFK with LAPD; here the mayor, Hill & Westbrook fit the bill in sick fashion

Macet up north

Surprised he still life

LBJ was going to be off the ticket in 64 he was going jail

Residual radical money

Life by bill you are right about a lot of what you're saying but you are dead wrong about the route being changed that route was released in both dallas papers 3 or 4 days before the assassanation including the houston and elm street route where the confusion came somebody published a different route just going down main street by mistake but this was after the correct route look it up in the old dallas newspapers dont listen to the conspirators do your own research

As soon as he mentioned reading Jim Garrisons book l knew it was going to be more conspiracy nonsense

Interviewer's questioning is that of a rank amateur.

Thank you to our host and guest of stature. The Tippett incident confirms just why we cannot rely on eyewitness testimony. Some were near and others far and reported events much differently including two men and not just LHO.

I don't know if you're going to see this comment or not and I'm using Google voice types so excuse me if I mess this up I'll try to correct it you were you said something about named like three or four different groups of people that were already working in the Kennedy administration and I'm responsible for you in the Bay of pigs and Fidel Castro's assassination now that being said I don't know how to pose this what do you think about that and I don't know if this is true or not but I was reading it the other day and but Kennedy's disapproval I guess or wanting to find out more information or something like that about the Federal reserve. Oh and excellent research excellent good job man yeah awesome and I like that you were I think the words objective right on.

He sick

doctor proctor? the car driving doctor?

find RFK's killer you will find jacks. keep looking!

His fd brain

Is he ukran

Lol

La dr they had to go that way best route to get on stemmings freeway I have read the newspaper accounts in both Dallas newspapers from nov 18th 1963 Google and look it up it clearly says Houston and elm st mark lane started all that bullshit in 1967 because there was a route published on I think nov 20 showing a route not including the Houston and elm st routes I have seen that paper too it was a mistake and he took it as the route had been changed it's a myth

Satonic

He th8nk we propeganda

I wasn't even born when this happened, yet I have found it EXTREMELY interesting since I learned about it as a child. Would anyone dispute that in 1963, LBJ was easily one of the 10 (perhaps even 5) most powerful people in the U.S. (due to having been an extremely powerful Senate Majority Leader) and also one of the 5 most powerful people in the state of Texas. LBJ may or may not have expected JFK to get murdered on THAT day, but I find it very difficult to believe that he did not think it was extremely unwise for JFK to come to Texas. LBJ had many 'eyes and ears' on the ground and knew some highly unsavory characters. I realize that this was 60-something years ago, but the lack of security is ASTOUNDING. No agents or officers in the TSBD. No agents or officers stationed behind the fence on the grassy knoll. Connolly's aide said (video is on YT), that he entered Parkland Hospital that day through an unlocked side door and there was NOBODY stationed at that door. The TSBD was not immediately secured. Former Dallas Sheriff's deputy Roger Craig is on video stating that he was standing in front of the Sheriff's office the morning the motorcade was to come through Dealy Plaza, and, that the Sheriff's department had been instructed (by the Sheriff) that morning that they were, "NOT to take part in assisting with security." Roger Craig also stated on video that he was immediately struck by how few Dallas police officers were stationed in the area. Roger Craig sticks to his story.........for years........despite being fired from the Sheriff's department, threatened, and surviving MULTIPLE attempts to kill him........before he finally, 'kills himself'..........via a rifle shot.........to the chest. Garage where they happened to be moving Oswald is WIDE open for anybody to just stroll through to enter. But, Ruby wasn't, "just anybody".........Ruby used to supply Dallas cops with (free) liquor and women. Has there ever been an event in the 20th or 21st Centuries that had 25% of the, "coincidences", hearsay, and 'suspicious' deaths surrounding it? I forget his name.......but a guy who just 'happened' to serve in the Marine Corps........in the same unit as Oswald.........just randomly 'happens' to get a job with the Dallas Police department, about a year before the murder? Lowly Oswald, who can barely keep minimum wage jobs.......who has two children.........and is living in a room..........and doesn't even own a vehicle............just 'happens' to have thousands of dollars worth of camera equipment? The last phone call of Oswald's life........is (attempted to be) made to a crippled, WW II veteran, halfway across the country............who claims not to know who Oswald is (beyond what he's seen on TV)? I am willing to accept 4 or 5 or 6 'coincidences' and 'strange occurrences'.............but 50 (or more)? No, sir. Has there ever been an event (close to this magnitude) in the 20th or 21st Centuries with more sloppy police work? Oswald is interviewed for 12 hours, yet nothing is recorded, "because there wasn't room for a stenographer or recording equipment"............YET, at the same time, the night Oswald wants to make a phone call, there are, "two (unidentified) men in suits are put into a room across the hall from the jail switchboard? Dallas police turn over their original paperwork to the FBI, and don't keep copies? Not one, but TWO law enforcement professionals on the scene at the TSBD when the rifle is found, identify it as a Mauser.........and BOTH sign affidavits stating this? The Dallas FBI agent (James Hosty), who is assigned to Oswald........a man who has renounced his citizenship, visited Communist countries.........during the HEIGHT of the Cold War..........and who has ordered a rifle in the past couple of years..........is elsewhere, having lunch during the morning/afternoon the motorcade is coming through Dallas? One of the first calls Oswald makes, once in custody, is not to his mother or brother (granted, they weren't the Cleavers), or even Marina.........but is to Ruth Paine.........a woman who is suspected to have CIA ties..........the same Ruth Paine who told Oswald about the job opening at the TSBD? 24 year-old Oswald (allegedly) shoots the POTUS.........strolls out of the TSBD........catches a bus.......which is headed AWAY from his rooming house. Bus gets stuck in traffic.........he then WALKS to the bus station to catch a taxi.........but offers the first available taxi to a pregnant woman, then catches the next one.........and gets dropped off blocks away from his destination? Even Leavalle (the policeman in the white hat, who was handcuffed to Oswald) stated, "Based on the evidence we had, I could NOT see Oswald getting convicted for shooting the president." And, the U.S. government has been keeping massive amounts of documentation sealed..........for 60-something years.........all because, Oswald was just a lone nut job who masterminded ALL of this.........on his own? This whole thing is soooooo rife with deception, misdirection, and shadowy characters that, only the CIA or similar agency could have pulled this off. Seems like no one individual knew 'more than they needed to', so that, even if they talked, they would not know enough to be credible. Oswald was once described (I do not recall who said it), as, "someone who may not necessarily have been an agent, but who had the fingerprints of intelligence all over him." And, another person offered up the hypothesis that I tend to think comes closest to the 'truth'...........Oswald was told to bring his rifle to the TSBD that day........because, 'someone' MAY try to assassinate the president, and, if so, we want YOU (Oswald) to stop it. I always thought that, "patsy" was a very odd word for a 24 year-old to know and use........even in 1963.

Lie

It's pretty easy to figure out why they did not let that Oswald call go through but what this guy is not telling you is ruth Payne tried to make that same call and could not reach anybody like this man just said I would have rather killed him rather than to talk to him

israel did it, because of the dimona nuclear plant inspection.

Invented cia

Life by bill the route was never changed th that's a myth

After shots were fired, people started running to the grassy knoll to see who it was. REALLY?!?! People don't run toward active shooters. It was more likely people were running to the grassy knoll to get away from the depository, where the shots were coming from.

Don’t rule out the late James Files (fence line).:He was there with his associates and they do this sort of thing for a living.