When John says “all punks ever did was complain. They’d say fuck the motha fucka! No solutions. Hardcore is about finding the Solutions to those problems.” Get me tearing up, everytime. That statement hits home so hard.
I'm literally talking about a different time- 2000-2008. I'm not talking about todays hc scenes. sure, it always has been an issue through out the years. Yes, I do say a lot worse now, but not so much back then, then to those who actually made that obvious that a singer/guitarist ect. were making those wrong decisions. @@davidduke9763
***** No, it's not. I've never heard anyone else in Oakland talk like that, and it's certainly not a "regional" thing. Tim just developed it on his own.
@@dmitrystrelianny2486 that's hardcore in a nutshell. No one in the hood starts a hardcore band. It's all suburban kids. Vfw halls and garages and basement shows. Varsity jackets?! Get real. It's always been middle/upper class kid music. Poor kids listen to street/crust punk or hip hop. Hardcore is vital for people who understand that living well isn't all it's cracked up to be. Ask rollins who played at being homeless.
I am 17 years old and I justed going to ska and hardcore concerts with friends and stuff. I have been interested into both scenes that it changed my whole perspective about going to concerts.
God damn I can relate. " what did you do last night".... I have only just gotten comfortable with saying I went to a hardcore or Metal show, but I cant explain it to most. THey dont get it. I still explain my ACL and meniscus tear I had surgery for was from " rough housing and soccer"
HeavyProfessor you are a point of light-you, whoever you inhabit today! You can pick and choose! If you’ve been in a squat or on the street you ought to explore other lives I think.
Anthony Conrad I think a lot of straight people are interested, and will listen, but I grew up in Ny and moved to the suburbs up north and you just can’t convey it all so they get the picture but not the symphony you know.
I was born & grew up HIP HOP And we in the hip hop culture share the same spirit within HARDCORE in the streets of new york ......thats why hardcore rap was born since RUN DMC starting off by sampling rock music 💯💯 IM PROUD TO BE HARDCORE 💪💥
Absolutely, the same creative spark that gave rise to HipHop in the Bronx in 1977, also kicked off the punk scene. Both organically started out as independent street art. Once the corporations came in (Hammer, Vanilla Ice / Green Day Offspring) they both lost their innocence, but the underground is still intact.
+Pramu Dananjaya Back in the day nyhc wasn't so nice. hahaha they would beat you in the street because they had to preserve what was theirs, specifically on the LES. Bad Brains was an entity on their own. They really practiced PMA.
It was kind of a estranged idea to put that on - buy I feel what they are trying to convey is the angle of the story. Hardcore led a member of Indecision to belive and stand up for what he believes in in a complete 180 degree turn
+Tobakilacion you can do it without sharing the same interests, just find some commonalities, i find that differences make it all the more interesting if you're open to new ideas.
Wow. That was surprisingly awesome. Regardless of where I am in life or where hardcore is now/is going, I'll always be glad that I came up in the hardcore scene.
Myke C-Town Hey Myke, love your channel, was just wondering when you're gonna upload a new Vinyl Update video. Those are my favorite cause I learn about a bunch of new stuff I've never heard of. Hope all is well, take care man.
So happy and impressed to see Vice include Title Fight in this video. Spotlighting niche genres is awesome and meaningful documentation and work, and 100% Title Fight is inspired by hardcore, but as hinted on this video Title Fight bends genres; Shoegaze, Hardcore, Punk, Emo, Hard Indie. Either way, Title Fight is one of my favorite bands of all time, and I am grateful to see them included in this video. More so, I'd be grateful to get to see them LIVE someday! Please tour Title Fight!! (of course, only on your own conditions and desires)
I miss Title Fight touring/being active so much. If I recall correctly, they haven't done any major touring or shows since like 2016, so like barely post-Hyperview.
In the first episode of Under the Influence, join members of Agnostic Front, Title Fight, Youth of Today, Incendiary, and more to find out how hardcore changed their lives.
Noisey that was one of the best docs ive seen from you guys yet, you couldve focused on the brutality but instead youve shown the beauty of it. pma everyday.
Noisey I went into this video with high anticipation because I was part of this scene since the 80's... BUT: How can LEEWAY not be in this or even mentioned? or how about the fanzines (such as InEffect Hardcore) be left out? other than that, this was good but decided not to rate it
This was great! Almost made me cry. I guess I'll always be a "hardcore kid" at heart...you grow, sometimes stop listening to hardcore music, going to shows; but that "hardcore" state of mind just lives on.
This proves that Hardcore is a way of life and is a culture. Very cool to see props given to bad brains from DC that truly started the movement. Vinnie Stigma is the man and TRUE New Yorker. Agnostic front could be the best NYHC band of all time. Still doing their thing hard! NY is the birthplace of so many musical movements and I'm proud to be a part of both. NY and the NYHC scene. Glad to see this video get so many views and expand the Hardcore culture! PMA!
Choosing Tim Armstrong to narrate a documentary about hardcore punk is like choosing Dylan to narrate one about folk: great artist, but you can't understand a fucking word he's saying.
I've been listening all those bands sinse I was a teenager then it's really cool and inspiraing to whatch a video like this,Punk Rock Hard core just changed my life forever, I just live in São Paulo city, Brazil It's hell of town It's a big place, crownded, violent and busy as well then It's really like New York from 70's 80's then hard core scene here It's really similar with New York scene I guess so every year we just have all those bands wich really influenced a whole generation in South America as well so thank you guys . SPHC Represent
***** South Korea was a cool choice precisely because it is unexpected. I actually live there (and have been to shows at that venue). Punk has really only been a thing in South Korea for maybe 20 years. The Geeks have a big NYHC influence. So it shows that the NYHC sound has reached some seemingly random places. South Korean punks are an interesting bunch, especially when you consider how much more of a stigma it carries in such a conservative and collectivist culture.
Crazy how I can feel energy through my computer, all these decades later. I'm nearing 40 and a family man....now I gotta go out to the garage and "build something"
such a rosy positive picture, yet the worst most brutal fights I ever saw where at hard core shows, insecure children juiced up on roids insisting that you "don't f with me"
2:55 Pain of Truth sampled this for one of their new tracks You & Me awesome sample i recognized it right away since i used to watch this documentary all the time
if im ever in a creative funk / need a boost to get the creative juices flowing / to just be inspired to create art I always watch this and it never fails to get that creative fire burning bright. PMA!!!
Your comment is overlooked and its a shame, I scrolled down and read it and then instantly spit out my fuckin coffee lmao. Tim Armstrong does have a unique style of speaking but mostly because of a speech impediment and having dyslexia all these years. All his hardcore drug abuse back in the day didn't help either but he's sober now and easier to understand lol.
phil d these guys were like that too. notice how they all made sure they were wearing their hardcore band shirts and i saw some new ink they got right before recording. but it's truly all love, not bashing anyone. this was great.
***** not talking about bands here, although yes, they usually are in a local bands or whatever,,, . more like ''the scene'', the people who need names to identify their hardcore ''boy-club''.
phil d all the scenes in mtl are like that super insular, closed door if you dont look like them talk like them and live like them, its stupid, its less about the music and more about how many beers you drink and meth you do
I don't really like the new bands at all. I mean i'm happy they're out here, they're all cool, & hardcore lives on, but there's touches of indie in todays hardcore and all that emo scream core and militant straight edge shit has always been viewed as most corny out here in the real NYHC. Not many real SHARP skins left at all, the scene has died away. I think it's bc as people get older they don't want to be defined by a music genre but hey, that's them. Original rudeboy L.E.S. S.H.A.R.P. skins let me know you're still alive!
You know, I would like to see a documentary about punk and hardcore about the kids who DIDN'T MAKE IT. Because there were far more who probably died of drugs, violence, or just didn't do much after they got older. Or just got typical jobs and started families. That would be an interesting topic. Yes, yes, we know it was cool to grow u in New York, Los Angeles, or London or whatever every documentary covers and all the bands who got really big, rich, and successful and started hipster restaurants for rich yuppies and all...but what about the others? A lot were extremely violent people, no good, hellraisers, and other low lifes, or just got bored and grew up. The majority were not vegan or "spiritual". I would also love to se a documentary about punk or hardcore in various cities that are not famous. Just towns or what was happening in other parts.
"Pearl Jam sucks, New York Hardcore all the way. Now let's make electronic music in Los Angeles." "I'm so New York Hardcore I support Bill DeBlasio, because I fight the system from the inside." My God, this is the most ironic documentary ever.
I was a skinhead, then I become a xstright edgex, ate alot of book to get PMA (positive mental attitude) learn many religions, history and philosophy, Im born as muslim, but never know what islam is, untill I learn quran with the meaning. Finally i found the right path. This docu. Remembering me with my oldskool days.
Thank you for posting this! Just my two cents: came from the middle class suburbs, now graduating from med school so I never looked like or will ever look like "a hardcore kid" but I can't imagine my life throughout highschool and until now without it. Doesn't matter how many patients i see, how many surgeries I do, or how lame/boring I look on the outside doing it, you bet i'm gonna be on that stage till i die, blasting hardcore from the operating room. Thanks again for the vid!
+insanez703 ladies and gentlemen, here is the perfect example of just being yourself, as opposed to trying too hard to be something you're not. It'll never catch on with the cool kids in the cool club on the other side of town. Their loss. Bravo, OP.
He speaks English with a light Korean accent, easily comprehensible, his grammar and vocabulary are better than most native English speakers. Why not subtitle the heavy Brooklyn accent for those not from Brooklyn? I'm not sure what's spineless about sticking up for someone who has quite clearly invested a lot of time and effort to speak a foreign language and can speak it well. If I'd found out they'd subtitled me at his level I would be insulted. In a modern culture you will come across people with all sorts of accents, subtitling someone who doesn't require it is part of a dumbing-down process. Don't listen to what he's saying, it's not an american accent, , just read these subtitles. Not only is it unnecessary, it's alienating
I'm all for vegetarianism and/or veganism. However, to me it always seems that people like this who practice either do so in a very entitled and condescending way to say the least. I don't think factory farming or any of that shit related to the food industry is good by any means, but I also don't think you should pat yourself on the back for making the change. If you're at all interested in getting praised for it, or using it to make yourself feel superior to others, you're missing the point. Just can't stand the entitlement. I see it from so many white people to this day. "Why don't you just become a vegetarian?" Because the system is designed for you not to be, and it ultimately boils down to money. If you're broke and hungry what are you going to do? Go spend $1 or $2 on some fast food, or go to whole foods and spend 5 or 10 times that to not even get much in the way of fruits, vegetables etc. These problems are not so easily solved. Unless you have the resources. And I think a lot of the type of people profiled here don't realize how good they may have actually had it.
The more privileged a nation is, the more meat they eat. The only country I've heard of selling meat burgers at 2 bucks is North America, it can hardly be called food it's all byproducts, fat and preservatives. Better off buying cans of beans, chickpea's and lentils. chartsbin.com/view/12730
How come they don't mention Syracuse NY and all the vegan straight edge bands that came up throughout the 90's?! Earth Crisis, anyone? wtf? just because we're a little upstate doesn't mean we weren't doing it too. Also shouts to Buffalo and their solid bands (Dead Hearts, snapcase, etc etc) sleepin on upstate.....smh
The inception of movement was not about Syracuse and the time was not in the 90's. American hardcore was a simultaneous coast to coast, and the damnedest little places in between that was the bastard child of punk rock, homogenized television culture, and American hypocrisy. A bunch of misfits from a bunch of kinda tragic circumstances that started a fuck you movement to the fuck you movement that created something that had never happened like that before. We broke extremes and many things splintered out of that movement which is still happening all around the world in the spirit of the strange times in which we live. Hardcore made me and showed me how to make something out of nothing, how to take care of each other at home and out on the road with respect and relative style, nobody owns it and you don't have to be from a famous or big city, you come as you are with all you have, and you never stop reaching for a better world and if that doesn't sound like a wise philosophy to live by...... I don't know what is. We're not all the same, everybody has their reasons for being there/here/wherever, and we're not kidding. There's no dress code and no boss and the same drama and conformity we see in society we see in scene to scene in 1981 and 2018. Not many people know what the real thing is but the real thing does and so do the impostors. SUPERLOVE
I know all about Cabal 315 DNA - The Path of Resistance, Another Victim, Ed Gein, The Promise, A Darker Day Tomorrow but almost everything came outta NYC
got any tips for making your own shoes, I find the stove top rubber never takes. falls apart in a week or so. the canvas holds together well with dental floss. but can't get that rubber to work. and tryna make DIY insoles is a pain, never seem to get the cardboard to hold the right arch support.
Cool doc but need to do one on the 90's NYHC scene. Of course Madball & Agnostic front was still the shit. I am talking about all the bands I played with & grew up with. All out war, Sworn Enemy, Irate, Billy club sandwich, blood for blood which I know are from Boston. Vision of disorder, Earth crisis, Everyone gets hurt, Candiria 100 demons etc. Such a great & forgotten time in music. So much influence on today's heavy music. NYHC 4 life.
Funny how Texas is the reason is a vegan straight edge band, which name is inspired from a Misfits song. A band that typically sang about murder and alien abductions.
thank you for making this - and thank you to all the bands who changed my life growing up - all the times sick of it all, madball, and h2o played our shitty little clubs.. it is appreciated
Being a modern- left (not truly left) grazer isn't hardcore, it's soft. You're conforming and relinquishing your intellectual sovereignty for groupthink where bigotry, censorship and superficial identity is given priority above all else. Last show I saw the original Misfits and Cromags, and thankfully they weren't whining about Trump or some other politically correct grievance like 99% of "punk bands" these days. Danzig said a few things about how people are soft and too easily offended these days and that democrats today are fascists. Fresh air to hear a different opinion.
I can definitely see where you're coming from and while I can say that PC punk/hardcore exists and how stupid it is, it's something that's been around since punk was fucking born in the 70's as well as the attitude that "people are too soft" that came from the dudes with their leather jackets that only went to shows to get drunk and beat people up. Best option is to find the in between. Not every band is trying to make you get their pronouns right and not every band is trying to bring back the shitty "dude" attitude that brought straight edge
The 90’s hardcore scene in Mass, Connecticut, New York & Jersey was dope AF…shows constantly week to week state to state. So many great bands & good times. Sweaty packed crowds for 25 Ta Life.
I was in Fury of Five at the time and I got to play with a ton of awesome bands. We played the Agnostic Front reunion show at the Wetlands. All the NYHC guys are great guys and super talented at what they do
Honestly; when I first watched this video when I was younger, I loved hardcore and I thought I understood it. But then when the videos credits played I was like wow; now... now i am truly informed about this being passion and not only aggression
