Underground Bicycle Parking is Amazing 

If you eat enough frikandelbroodjes you get a Dutch passport, right?

@@NotJustBikes if you can say frikandelbroodjes correctly, you get it to

Also, the tompoezen were sold out on Kings Day :/

@@estherbosbach377 We made our own this year. They didn't turn out correctly, though. 😢

@@NotJustBikes only if you drink a manditory 20 cans of €0.39 enery drinks a week

The Netherlands is actually making cycling highways all over the country and in the future they would all connect so that you can cycle through the Netherlands in an easy way.

Too

A cyclist in the deep south? My condolences.

When I was in America I ride my bicycle on the sidewalk and nothing happend lol

Where in america did you visit?

Most of these are at train stations. If people wanted to go somewhere by car, they wouldn't drive to the trains station, but just straight to their destination.

@@NotFlappy12 They still would need to park somewhere. And plenty of train stations still have car parking, your theory is not correct.

@@bftjoe just because some people drive to the train station doesn't mean it's common. At least in the Netherlands, almost all parking spaces near train station are only park and ride, to drop someone off at the station.

@@NotFlappy12 Considering as many cars as bikes parked in the station will not be in traffic, it still looks efficient anyway.

@@bftjoe Parking a car at a major railway station in the Netherlands ? Nope, doesn't exist anymore. Even the taxi cab parking at Amsterdam Centraal has been moved to the back (where tourists fail to find them & they all come down to new tube station in front :D)

you beat me to it

Right?! If i have a sturdy enough bike ill even bike off of stairs

I think planners worry more about elderly people, younger childeren and various skilled cyclists. Accessability for everyone trumps comfort or ease for someone. That being said, the no cargobike policy is just dumb. Especcially in Amsterdam

@@Qwerty2OG I see elderly people riding their bikes up and down steep slopes in my town no problem. There is even a foot-bike bridge here with a mild slope on one side and a steep staircase on the other - most bikers don't bother getting off their bikes. But then again, my country is not a safety heaven the Netherlands are.

Or all the drunk teens...

5 days ago?

@@pessipaivarinne3174 On RU-vid you can make a video unlisted, post a comment, and then schedule it for publishing at a later date. That's also how RU-vidrs show their video to their Patreon members before the general public.

Damn, I just assumed you had this already.

If you need some footage from the Rotterdam region let me know! I'm always happy to find a destination for my daily "get out of the house" bike ride. P.S. Fun fact: I am also a Torontonian living in the Netherlands

Maybe I should film my commute type rides in florida. Might be an eye opening experience for your primarily Dutch audience. Key takeaway: I would gladly deal with the pain the butt bike parking situation to have HALF the infrastructure y’all have.

That is really great to hear!

@@NotJustBikes Also a dutch engineer, and i agree. In fact, i didn't even realise the Netherlands has a bike culture until the youtube algorithm recommended me these videos. I guess since learning how to ride a bike is just part of growing up here, i never really thought about it that much.

@@Jacobus666 Thanks for the response. It's funny how sometimes it takes an outsider to realize what you have! :)

I respect your work here in the USA. I learned really quick that this type of work needs intelligent men. We never had a sub 92 IQ person last if we had a choice. The safety cutoff was an IQ of 84.5 if I had to guess. Honestly, I really do not know what I am talking about half of the time.

Very interesting, though the view of all those two level parking spots left me wondering how the bikes are loaded on the second tiers. Maybe seemed too obvious to include since you’ve likely all witnessed it millions of times. However it’s not obvious to me. I can’t imagine everyone lifting their bikes that high, however what is the mechanism?

of course I'd find another of my favourite youtube channels here.

We go insane on 50 mBar below average air pressure.

heeeeelp there exists an up and down!!

Laughs in Limburg

@@temtem9255 depends where in limburg though, around echt there are 0 hills, allready gotta go to the south of limburg to find some hills, but the biggest hill in the netherlands was a pain to climb with a bike lmao

That's not the reason though. Buying used bikes is very common in The Netherlands, and many people (especially students) ride crappy old bikes, which don't necessarily have well functioning brakes. Making a steep slope with a corner at the end and allowing people to ride their bikes down it would be asking for trouble. Staff would see a lot of accidents.

Probably not the reason but yeah I almost spit out my coffee.

When we see a hill, we simply cry all the way up.

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@@l.hendriks93 when I see a hill or an incline, I think: challenge accepted. For some reason, I enjoy it. Perhaps because of my innate compulsion to overtake people.

Ya in the Netherlands we have like 3 bikes a person (Sorry for bad English)

Australia is a developing country I guess.

Same in Dubai but don’t even bother about bikes because it’s deadly hot half of the year…

if you build it (proper cycling infrastructure), they (the cyclists) will come.

Voc gang lets go scheurbuik tijd

@@yaboy6516 lekker, gecoloniseerd

@@Djinn-lee gecoloniseerd met een c? lekker nederlands

@@hehwhwh727 ey joh kan bijna typen

G E K O L O N I S E E R D

@@utopistmsoc haha me too!

It's rubbish as well. All the used/empty indicator lights still do not work (after nearly two years), you get traffic jams on exit and entry due to scanning and most importantly - all bike/pedestrian crossings are designed with zero visibility - you have to pop out from behind concrete wall and hope that somehow there is no cyclist out there about to run you over.

You MUST get off your bike when you're entering a parking row (where the floor is grey). People also make shortcuts through the parking rows and that's not cool, either. Then there's what @borek772 mentioned - the pedestrian navigation is a poorly executed afterthought. Other than that, the garage is indeed great.

@@borek772 excactly

I've never actually used it. I am accustomed to not being able to park my bicycle safely at trainstations (and every time I come by this particular one it's shown as being full). If I were to consider it I'd either have to get a cheap bike I wouldn't mind losing or check beforehand if there's space (if that's possible). Normally I take the bus instead. Less fuss.

Lol same

Hahah zelfde Heijendaal rules.

Very childish, HÉ HAARLEM AT 1.05!

Me when I subscribe to a channel about the Netherlands but get a video about Oulu instead :O

Lmao my tiny ass town’ll never be in one of his videos

Yeah, feels like this guy is overthinking the bicycle thing. It makes sense but cycling is just what you do

Indeed. And also because you don't have to wait for a train or a bus, but you can just go wherever and whenever you want.

Just because its normal, is not a reason. It is normal here but because for short distances bikes can pass traffic and cost less aswell as that you can park very close to your destination. The reason this is not a thing in many other countries is because most countries have way more hills. Cycling in the netherlands a bridge is the most excercise you will get, cycling in other countries every street can be an excercise.

Cycling is common in the city. I live in a smaller town and here everyone gets their driver's license at 18. And a car to go to work.

Because people from the netherlands are super greedy thats why they laugh 🤦🏾‍♂️

Psycho Games enge flex

Yeah when Nelly Furtado made the 9 million bikes song we had to succeed that number by having 20 millions bikes in such a small country.

@@A1rPun Katie Melua

"More bikes than people..." Suddenly I got a mental image of autonomous bicycles, driving themselves around - because, in the Netherlands, bicycles have evolved from spending so much time with each other. :D

@@WhiteTiger333 sounds plausible. I used to own two crappy bicicles to park at a train station (one near my home and one at my destination), one good bicicle for longer distances (50 km is totaly a bikable distance when you have the right bicicle) and one suitable for rough terain and exercise. So, there you have it - four bicicles for one person. But now I totaly expect them to start an uprise 😂

Just make sure you park next to a nicer bike that also has a single lock and you are good

@@MrTeddy12397 so you're not from the netherlands it seems

@@MrTeddy12397 hahaha you've never been to the netherlands, have you?

@@StefsEngineering this is what I always do, it works perfect with a not too good looking bike.

@@MrTeddy12397 lol you're not from amsterdam, are you?

United States people: riding a bike is suicide United States Government: give more subsides to private oil corporations

Dutch people: Park bicycle at station Dutch government: This is a mess, let's add bicycle racks Dutch people: Park more bicycles at station Dutch government: We're going to tag those left for a week & take them away, and add more bicycle racks Dutch people: Park even more bicycles at station Dutch government: Build even more bicycle racks. It's hard to make out it's a station any more, because the bicycle racks are the same size as the train station. Dutch people: Park *EVEN MORE* bicycles Dutch government: Okay, underground multilevel parking garages it is.

I think it's weird that other countries don't have a cycle path. #nederlandisbeter

@@dascandy Hahahaha, pretty accurate! And imagine the mess when all bicycles at and near the train stations are cars...

@@dascandy I know right. If cyclist piss off the local, state or national government- cyclist get multi level bicycle parking facility.

Some USA cities are better than others. San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkely in California have made good efforts at providing bike lanes. Yet since cars have been King here for so long, it will be a long time before we get anywhere near the use and quality of the ones in the Nederlands.

Part of that is the crazy zoning laws in many US and Canadian cities - "Euclidian zoning"

Yeah you totally should. Just rent a bike for the duration of your trip. Its cheap and fast. Use the free weather app called "Buienradar" though. We do get alot of rain, and even as a Dutchy, cycling in bad weather isnt all that fun.

I lived in Germany for awhile and loved the text that I could bicycle to run errands and grocery shop, go to the swimming pool, and just bike around the area!! To many drivers in the US don't look for bicyclists, don't stop at stop signs and the way the traffic lights are set up allow drivers to take a left turn onto a road while the pedestrians/ bicycle have the right to walk across the road. The drivers and pedestrians can collide if no one pays attention. I ALWAYS make eye contact, stop/ show down to see if they intend to stop or not. Any doubt and I'll let them go, refuse to go further, or go back to the streak sidewalk! Also wear something that can be seen, carry and use s flashlight at night, look both ways, etc!! I'm sure people have made comments and laughed at me but I don't care- I'm alive! ( Former medic/EMT and picked up to many dead people)

StevyD one if the things i love about Holland is. Im 31 years old without a drivers licence. Cause i never seen the reason to get one. Any city hospital school work i can go either throug public transport or bike.

We can switch if you want lol

Me too ❤️

Not only have I been to Brussels, I lived there for two years! And yes, I think you're completely correct about people ignoring Flanders because they only think of Brussels. I should do a video about some cities in Belgium some day.

@@NotJustBikes Brussels is still way behind, but quickly improving, Brussels was first in Belgium to make temporary cycling lanes to accommodate social distancing, for instance. My pet peeve is the 'easy' option to make shared pavements/cycling lanes is waay too popular. And while there are a few spots I still get off of my bike and walk, I generally feel safe enough to cycle around. The bicycle garages in the city centre are not very popular yet, and have been labelled as a boondoggle, but I'm convinced they'll get more popular in the future.

Ghent is excellent to bike through as is most of Flanders. I’ve taken a bicycle roadtrip from Breda to Antwerp, Ghent, Lille (France), Oostende and Bruges. You could easily navigate from one big city to another (not so much in Wallonia though). I wouldn’t say Ghent or Antwerp is as good as Utrecht or Amsterdam but I did like biking there more than I did in Denmark.

I've been to Belgium quite a few times, and spent several holidays there on bicycle. My impression is that it's only getting more bicycle friendly quite recently. 20 years ago there was hardly any bike infrastructure, or even bicycle shops in major cities like Gent, Brugge and Antwerpen. It's been getting better, but it takes a while for reputation to catch up.

@@rogerwilco2 and in Flanders, too, there are a lot of red spots. There are still 2 and 3-lane roads with *no* cycle infrastructure (Ninoofsestw...), oand even more with just a "moordstrookje" right next to a 90 kph lane. There's also a general lack of maintenance which is not only true for car lanes, but cycle lanes too. Yes, it's improving, but in spite of the large cycle culture, we should be doing a lot better.

Even better, the main garage includes stairs directly to the train platform!

Being fair, I _do_ go a bit too fast in the bicycle storage at Delft central

Deventer in general is quite a nice place to go for a bicycle ride. He should do a video on that.

Yes he should deventer is a very Nice city I live there

I think Deventer is one of the most beautiful places in The Netherlands! Hope they make a video of Deventer one day 😍

Arnhem too. Love it! One funny fact... on east side, men are not allowed to park below. They pull your bike out and park it on top. ☺️

Yeah Deventer is awesome!

you can probably Park like 20-30 bikes or more in one car spot

That’s the one in Utrecht, biggest in the world with a capacity of 13.500 bikes

@@ms-fk6eb They built a small paring garage in the city center of gent under a bridge. You could park maybe 6-7 cars there if it was for cars. 10 if you squeezed them in and made it difficult to park. Instead it's for bikes and there's room for 210 bikes... So in this case the factor of 30 is quite accurate!

Where are you from?

Same. I want to Believe that we have pretty good cykling lanes and things in Sweden as well, but this is just something else. As a bicykle commuter myself i found myself thinking about how much better Amsterdam was yesterday on my way to work haha

I think the bicycle storage at Amsterdam Sloterdijk does that pretty neatly. If it where not for the laughable limited amount of storage.

The underground parking lot at Utrecht centraal has a long hallway, wich runs under all the platforms, with a short flight of stairs to get up to said platform. It's really convinient, but because there's 20+ platforms, it does take a minute or 2/3 to get to the last one.

This is a MAJOR one!!! I HATE walking too far. It also dismisses the point of the advantages of using your bike

@@Mika_3c33 While that is true, I've yet to see a station where the walk from tram or bus to the farthest platform is shorter than the one from bicycle garage to the furthest platform.

Yeah.. also in delft, the bicycle storage is on level -1 while the platform on level -2, so it is closer to the platform compare to coming from stationsplein on level 0

Why it isn't going very well?

@@Michelrs bc Netherlands has Better bike infrastruktur then Denmark. I mean Denmark is better

@@CoBy_CoBy-97 Denmark is inferior to us compared on bikes😤

GEKOLONISEERD

that's the problem with e-bikes - they take decades to get anywhere

I think the Netherlands have the advantage (in this case) not to have a car industry. As a dutch living in Switzerland and visit many german cities and towns I know what you mean and I appreciat the dutch bike culture even more. Although Switzerland is doing prety well, the bike infrastructure is not comperable with the Netherlands (but can keep up with Denmark I think) But I think there are areas in Germany that are catching up, mainly because of ebiking: it makes biking reachable for everybody, including the old and the fat.

Lower saxony, a pretty flat county is easy to ride by bike but due to the low population density everything is far away and cycling paths are rare

On the other hand former Western Germany has kept more tram and lightrail networks through the car centric decades than every other car centric country. Cities like Braunschweig, Freiburg, Krefeld, Würzburg or Ulm would not have a tram network anymore in many other western countries. Austria and Switzerland did it like former Western Germany only less in total numbers because they are smaller countries. I didn't compare with the former east as it would be unfair but even compared to the former west many countries have to catch up a lot and only France and to some degree denmark are doing so.

Which city are you from? I've been thinking of similar things

Of gewoon platte roltrap

Or just use "rolpad"

@@eiypo I don't believe it's a Canadian term. I've heard it in the UK as well. From my understanding, a movator is a moving sidewalk that is sloped. Like a flat escalator. They're quite common in urban supermarkets in various cities, and the shopping cart wheels are built to lock into grooves on the movator to stop them from rolling down.

I always just call them "For lazy people". Unless it's a flat one at an airport, then it's "For running even faster". ;P

@@NotJustBikes Wheelchairs do have a problem though ...

Yeah really love that one. Because it has two entrances I sometimes actually use it to get from one side of the station to the other :)

Yes, I was about to mention! That one is very good. I like the small bicycle shop there - in case you need new brakes. You can also top up your tires with air using the compressor hose outside the shop. They thought of everything.

Yup, I always park my bike there when going with the train. Although sometimes they move it, because I failed to park correctly due to the amount of bikes, especially in the weekend. It is just way to full in both parking.

@@shiroineko13 there is only one bad thing about the Delft parking garage. Its the thursday and friday evening, hard to find a good spot at those hours since every student takes the train home.

My only problem with the one in Delft was that it took ages to find a free spot. The bus there is equally terrible, so eventually I decided to just walk to the university every day.

There are very very very few countries that use bikes half as much as Dutch people do, probably a couple of European countries and Japan, and that's about it.

Miguel Bartelsman Nothing I know of in London. Went back to cycling after I retired - local council does some on street frames but not that many. The Sainsbury's I commonly got to, at Beckton, has enough spaces for maybe 40 bikes but I never see more than about 4 at any time. .

Yeah I think Delft and Houten have the most convenient parking garages (assuming you could actually find a space)

The Delft tracks used to be above ground level. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RlY7cRuW634.html They´ve made some massive changes in the project Delft Spoorzone. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UuhLv1AN0bE.html Bicycle Dutch´s early video of the new station (there's an update as well).

I loved that train station. You'd ride in, park right next to the door and then its just 1 set of stairs and you're on the platform

But to be fair, the station in Delft is so small.. You can not even go to a wrong platform ;) And I always hate it when I go to Delft, find out I'm in the wrong side of the train and have to walk over the entire platform to get to the escalators

I would have agreed with you if they would have reintroduced the paid parking section....

What they will do if a bike has a very good lock?

remember how pissed having to pay at the parking garage near the west passage at the Central Station, being used to the 24 hour free rule at the other stations.

Yes i always neem the roltrap with my fiets

That's the "movator" that he's talking about in the video

*escalator, jezus xd

Hamsterkäufe? Wie Klopapier.

Is de supermarkt oorlog eindelijk voorbij?

They're only really a thing in the (bigger) cities, in smaller towns or rural areas they're not really needed. Both because they don't need the massive capacity but also since the chances of your bike getting stolen are way lower in rural areas.

Same bro😂

What happens when the bike is taken away? Can one get it back by paying a fine?

@@alquemist7532 Since we're talking about the municipality confiscating bikes and there are "Bike gone? Call 14020" markings on the ground during this scene: yes

@@alquemist7532 Yes, within 12 days for usually €25-35. Then, if the bike isn't claimed, it's sold by the municipality; they usually have bike sales once a month or so in the early morning hours (7-9 am), where you can buy these bikes for a relatively low price. The price depends on the type of bike, quality and whether repairs were needed to sell it, but you can get pretty good ones for €50-100 and the more fancier ones are usually more expensive. And you need to get (free?) tickets in advance to get access to the sale, at least in my municipality. Some days people (especially students) queue up around the block before opening hours!

@@alquemist7532 Personal experience: yes. Something on my bike once broke on my way to school, and I was far too panicked and rushed to figure out why it wouldn't move, so I just secured it to the nearest pole. Flash forward to me coming to get it with my dad after school, turns out that it doesn't matter how good your bike chain is, if you secure your bike to the "no bike parking" sign in the bikepath through DHCS, it will get stolen by the government. I think my dad had a good laugh when he told me to check what the pole I'd attached my bike to was being used for.

@@Treegona thsnks for sharing.. you did not say you were able to recover your bicycle though. I hope yoi did.

Yes, that is exactly what they think. But other Dutch cities do have ride in garages without bicycle carnage, so I think those fears are unsubstantiated. Edit: I see now that someone died riding into the garage at De Hallen, which is why they've taken this approach. I believe that garage was a car garage first though, so I wonder if there's an alternative for bicycle-centric designs that are safer.

@@NotJustBikes Fair point however I have had bikes with broken brakes and I do understand where they are comming from. I also agree that if the slope is shallow enough it should be fine. Maybe Amsterdam thinks it is to expensive to build such large slopes?

@@NotJustBikes It probably also has to do with geography and cost, you need more space for a ride in bicycle garage, so it costs more. Also with the muddy/wet underground especially in Amsterdam building underground costs even more.

Nobody has brought up the point that there are a lot of foreigners in Amsterdam who are less experienced at riding a bike

Worry not, you still have us beat on theme parks concerning Lego

I worked in the technology industry. Most of my travel was when I worked in the semiconductor industry, which required me to travel to Asia a lot. But most of the places I lived, I decided I was going to live there, and then worked (really hard) to get a job in those places. My employer didn't just move me around. If you want to live around the world, you can work for NGOs (non-governmental organizations). It doesn't pay well, but it works to see the world. Or you can take the approach I did, which is to get very well educated and skilled, and then be able to convince companies to hire you in other countries. ;)

Yes, I see that another commenter posted the article. That's terrible. The design of the De Hallen garage is quite bad for cycling, though. I believe it was first a car parking garage, and that 90° turn on the indoor entrance is not suitable for cycling. I suspect a crash like that would have been impossible if it were designed for cycling from the start.

Not Just Bikes I work for the construction company that built that underground garage. It is a new underground garage under a monumental tram remise. The car park and the bicycle garage were built (dug out) in the same time and designed and engineered in the same time. From the beginning it was ment to be a bicycle parking garage. I never understood the angle/corner at the end of the stairs, but it had to be constructed between the existence foundations otherwise it would have been a costly thing to remove a part of the foundation. In the car parking garage it’s another thing, they pay (a lot more) for parking than bicycle owners, so there you can can make a different consideration between low costs and good design. In our country you not only have to excavate the ground, but also make steel sheet piling (under existing foundations) and use dewatering against groundwater. And keep groundwater on level outside the excavation because otherwise the existing wooden piling (the foundation in our weak soil) of the monument will rot. That makes underground building very costly. And last but not least: do not do anything that is forbidden, the rules are there to keep you safe. So step of your bike if that’s the rule.

I don't want to be flippant, but my nephew broke his hip and arm (humerus) after falling down a wet and slippery set of stairs at a bicycle parking garage in the north of the Netherlands. Design is important, yes, but freak accidents will still happen. Especially if people don't heed safety.

@@bomcabedal Fietsflat next to the KPNborg in Groningen? Had some tricky moments with that one over the years.

@@RealConstructor Thanks so much for the post! I always like to hear the background engineering story. I'm an engineer myself (though not a civil engineer), so I completely understand that engineering is all about tradeoffs. It's really unfortunate that a design for cycling included a 90-degree angle at the bottom. Of course, that decision should not preclude building garages that can be cycled into, if they are designed better. And that's good advice about following the rules: I've learned that there is very little about Dutch infrastructure decisions that is arbitary, so you're right, it's there for a reason.

My son used to do his swimming lessons at Reade!

If people in the Netherlands started switching mostly to cars, the country would definitely be bursting at the seams.

@@maarneen2183 We are already bursting at the seams regarding cars. Even more cars would create chaos

Most of US is carcentric and has enough space to actually enforce minimal parking requirements. There's just not much to innovate or need to. Until public transport and bicycling become more prominent.

They are free, for the first 24 hours. Then you pay per day (usually €1,25) after that. That's really cheap.

Yes! I have a video planned fro Almere, and I was going to make it this month, but I can't travel there right now because of the coronavirus restrictions. Hopefully this summer I can film it!

It was 3AM when I made it, so why not? :)

Imagine the queue during rush hour though. I'll walk the 50 m.

the one in Utrecht doesn't take long at all actually. If you need to catch a train you just ride your bike to the lowest level, park your bike and walk through the tunnel to your platform. It's actually the fastest way to catch a train if you live in the city centre. Also parking spots outside a train station are almost always full and if you don't park your bike correctly it will get removed. the biggest problem is the fact that you sometimes forget where you put your bike if you're in a hurry. You can easily spend up to an hour looking for it.

Well we tried once... didn't work out so well.

@@jellevm Ahahahaha 😂

One of the reasons we don't rule the world. ....we don't care unless there's money involved. ;p ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4aXi3lOmICI.html

I guess you're from Friesland?

@@mauijttewaal nope Gelderland

But u guys have an old sausage house which is also cool

What???