Underrated Commanders: Legendary Creatures that are Better than they Look 

I feel no shame in admitting that my edh life needs some spicing up, and then you men come out with a gem like this! Gotta love it.

Only a couple of extra combat steps actually work with velomachus, as most of them require you to cast them during a main phase, which you cannot do with the velomachus trigger.

I always thought Kardur was the one of the cooler uncommon commanders. Haven't run him yet, but I am planning on throwing him into a Thantis deck.

"Dargo, who technically costs negative a thousand."

Now that you mention the instant speed matters commander my brain immediately goes to playing creatures with flash. Dimir already has plenty of instant speed interaction, but they especially have a lot of instant speed creatures

Kardur Doomscourge is low-key my favourite thing to bring back in my Gyrus deck, and in that case it’s almost always a one-time effect but even then it breaks some games wide open. Such a fun card!

Fought a dude for a league game who used Athreos, man had value to space

I run a Liesa and an Inniaz deck! I am usually the first person killed with Inniaz. I normally get one "gotcha!" trigger and then the table go mob me faster than Frankenstein's villagers. However I did win with it last night. I run Kardur in the 99 with my Mardu deck. Some easy flickers makes it often an mvp.

I think this episode should really be titled, "Run more interaction!"

Malcolm so good with Breeches. I’m all about turning reckless fireweaver into a pirate 😄

I actually built Nymris, and it quickly became the bane of my play group. Plus cards like Midnight Clock or pitching Echo of Eons to flashback it only lets you keep countering everyone best spells.

I love kardur. He’s my favorite commander. I’m glad he’s getting attention :)

First Grave Titan, then Phyrexian Arena & now its Wormcoil Engine... What's next Sol Ring lol

Dargo is the commander I was so excited to build buy never went through with. The entire goal was infinite casting dargo while having flamekin herald out

As a player with a Vorthos-Spike psychological profile, this series excites me. Looking forward to more!

I just put a Kardur into my Marchesa Deck. And he is the Mvp and my fav card to tutor for. But after i saw the alt art in your vid now i gonna Build a Deck with him as Commander with that cool artwork. Also i finally can play Xantcha in a Deck then^^

Love this list! I've wanted to build alot of these commanders too. Also, I can verify that Nymris is very good. I went reanimator-focused for mine because you just have so much card velocity and control of your graveyard, it's crazy! Plus you can actually play desertion and feel good about it

I started with Witherbloom as my first EDH Deck after I played Golgari Main in Modern for quite a long time and after seeing Dina, I immediately started to get Ideas what Combos I can start with her... She is soooo powerful for a 2 Mana Creature and can become quite quickly a big threat on the Board... Just wow!

I love it when you guys do videos like this! It gives me ideas for new things to brew, and also a little heads up on what to watch out for on the other side of the table

I played kambal, and unintentionally made the game I played a living hell for my opponents

I play Nymris. The win con is Consultation Thassa. Except of Thassa's Oracle and rocks, everything else in the deck has flash or is an instant. Its a hella fun (for me) to do draw go.

Love the dargo and nymris mentions. I pair dargo with tevesh to play all those sac combos and nymris is my new permission deck that hasn't had a game yet but seems good in theory. Similar to Rashmi but a bit easier to protect with the trade off of not being able to proc her on my own turn

This video inspired my most powerful and consistent deck to date: Dargo + Silas Renn. Came back to say thank you!

my boy kardur getting love! as soon as I saw him I knew I had to build the deck, He's so much fun

Lol damn!!! I literally just finished my Malcolm and Breeches deck last night. Got all the good stuff and running complete control and theft with it. True pirate style.

I have a Kardur deck that is an absolute house. Deck gives out creatures with things like the Hunted cycle, Slaughter Specialist, Varchild & her riders, and others with some goad synergies to make everyone just smack each other. Only thing is when you're down to 1v1, it's sometimes hard to pull out the win so I've got some decent fatties to pull out late game for it.

Can't wait for the gameplay, will be supporting on patreon

I can’t wait to see that jump start gameplay guys! Also always like watching the vids it’s entertaining educational and fun

Love seeing Liesa getting the respect she deserves. I've played or have faced most of the commanders here and I can say I wholly agree with this list. The only way I've been able to beat the Dina player is with commander damage

I use Kardur in my ghen, arcanum weaver deck I use a combo of bitter feud with curse of bloodletting it gets bananas when kardur hits the field

Couple Things in regards to Velomachus... I've seen people talking about how only a couple of the extra combat spells actually work with Velomachus' trigger because of the way they are worded and the timing of when they're being cast... something about the ones that mention main phase don't... my friends all think its stupid, so we just ignore the difference... The second thing is the new Surge to Victory card... if you have an extra combat in the graveyard and you hit the spell with Velomachus... you exile it as part of the attack, and then if the attack deals damage you should, unless I'm a dummy and can't read... which is entirely possible, get infinite combats if you can keep dealing the combat damage... My buddy and I really like the showcase Velomachus art, so we've been trying to make a deck with him

Hey neat, I run a Kardur deck. Been tweaking to make it a bit more consistent, but it's been a hoot. Doing the forced combat and giving tokens.l for myself and opponents

Kambal was my first EDH deck back in the day! Glad to see him getting the respect he deserves

These guys are funnier than I expected. Subbed.

Kardur Is crazy, I build him after this video and I had so much fun with it!!!

Nymris is very good. It has over performed an insane amount. And that 6 toughness is wild.

Nymris is solid for cedh and edh if you want a hyper reactive plan. One of my favorite cedh brews for sure!

I built a partner deck with Malcolm and Breeches right away because I ended up drafting them together at pre-release and it was a hoot. Especially with Captain Vargas Wrath. And it does have Glint-Horn Buccaneer.

I have a Malcolm breeches pirate tribal deck and it’s sooooo much fun (not so much for everybody else because of breeches) I’d recommend it to everyone.

Nymris is actually pretty fun. Something that's kind of mean in a K'rryk deck, head games + Opposition agent. 8 mana anywhere else 5 mana and 6 life with K'rryk

I don't know if you guys remember this but when you guys did Commander Tune-ups, the Kambal deck you did a video on was mine

I would definitely watch live gameplay produced by you guys!

You can make a super budget malcom combo deck that just slaps, making things into pirates makes it work

Conjurer's Closet with Kardur was an amazing combo. That was my first Goad deck that I had made

Thanks this was a fun video. Make more content like this.

I built Dargo + Ravos as Combotastic Mardu Aristocrats Deck. It has 5 Decks on EDHrec, but it's really fun and as you mentioned pretty strong

Woooo! I got Hard Evidence in my Crab Tribal deck! So one of those decks is mine haha! I am looking forward to the Game Play Videos on the Horizon!

My play group hates playing my liesa deck and it feeds my soul lol

"I've never seen Conjurer's Closet be good" is an attack on me personally lol

Athreos was my first box topper

Conjurers closet is insane in my sons Yarok the desecrated deck.

Love the daily content, this one was awesome

I wanna bring up Karazikar, The Eye Tyrant as well. I was on the verge of taking the deck apart before I realized just how strong his card draw is. Any time one of your opponents attacks someone other than you you get a card. Combined with a goaf theme it's a very fun puppet master kinda deck and I've been having a blast playing it

My job interview is on the first. I hope I get it so I can join the patreon

Malcom is legit one of the best partners in the game. Arguably in the top 5

Just finished my liesa deck, she is so fun but my games usually have her targeted many times but her ability allows her to be on the board almost all the time, goes so well with sunbond and light of promise.

Ok, I finally have a list in mind to Nymris, it will be really fun to use

I have an Inniaz deck. It is the most controlly deck I have that is still fun to play against.

Congrats on the house guys!

I love kardur! I opened him in my first khaldheim pack and immediately put him in my goad deck. Super underrated card

Recently made kardur, absolutely love the deck.

I'd love to see your top 5 budget commanders list, you've mentioned in the video ❤️

I recently built a Malcolm/Dargo deck and it combos surprisingly well with my ham sandwich of pirates. Arrrr we be after treasures🏴‍☠️

I play Jeska Dargo in my commander playgroup (we mostly play competitive decks) and it performs super nicely! I can combo off in turn 2 with the good hand and it's a strangely resilient deck for mono red, given the plan B to kill opponent by hand

I think you cant use carmic guide as it has protection from back meaning you cant target it with the ability of athreos

I already have a Malcolm deck partnered with a red commander. I hadn't even thought about infinite combos

You guys are always entertaining :)

My Malcolm and Breeches deck is really strong in my play group, especially because we often do 5-player games, so it's an additional treasure and card exiled.

Demo from edh deckbuilding has a series dedicated to this concept, he inspires me cause he looks at commanders that are either bad or don't appear good and comes up with interesting strategies!

Can confirm, my Athreos deck gets harder to beat the longer you take to get rid of him. First commander deck I built and I love it so much

Hi Guys. I have a Nymris Flash deck, that i would love to show you, one of my favorite decks to Play. Thanks for a great challene, best Regards Danni.

I run a Kardur deck, but I built it very silly, because I wanted to build a goofy deck when bored of playing my strong commander decks. I fill it with cards people never use like captive audience and other curses. and use karazikar, the eye tyrant, or Phage the untouchable, and even though its risky, you can abuse him with Mimic Vat. Its so fun to see peoples reactions when affected by these cards.

This is awesome and we need more

I love Liesa. Absolute blast to get a few players low enough that they can't cast more than three or so spells. Plus, having her and Kambal on board is really, really fun. For the one round it lasts anyways. She doesn't attract too much hate my way (which is another thing I like) but no one's dumb enough to let that power couple cripple them any longer than a turn cycle.

Anowon the Ruin Thief is a sleeper as well. It's a Rogue Tribal deck and all the beat Rogue's are fantastic at stealing your opponents things. So I built the deck to steal your spells and permanents. Then I'll make you mill and then take advantage of your graveyards. It's a really fun and powerful deck!

Malcolm is a cedh staple, you pair it with vial smasher or kraum and it is working amazingly! and also teshar is nice in cedh

Kardur seems like a fun group slug where you use lots of cards that give your opponents creatures and buff them before sitting back and watching as they tear each other apart.

Damn, Malcom looks lit

I love commanders that come off not at all scary at first like my new Gyome food/clue (I use clues to find more recipes haha) deck. I have stopped/tapped Eldrazi titans in their tracks for a Gyome baked cookie or I play a boardwipe and have my creatures eat some food to survive. Damnation come to those that dislike Gyomes cooking! LOL THE FLAVOR and the ability to say repeatedly to your playgroup "What's Gyome cooking today?'' Obligatory GT comment: Conjurer Closet is hilarious in Kardur with Grim Titan also. I had a game where I played GT, gave it haste, attacked and blinked on end step to Conjurer closet totally 6 zombies in 1 turn ;p

Similar to Dina is Orah. You still play all the orzhov Soul Sisters. Then you get triggers not only when creatures enter from your hand, but also when they come back with Orah's ability.

Definitely want to try nymris - potentially extremely annoying, and cheap enough that you could actually bling it out with foil cards

Do you guys still do deck techs? I built a Marath will of the wilds deck and was wondering what upgrades to add. I have a lot of counter doublers and creatures that remove counters for mana. I know it needs more tutors but other than that I’m lost

You got any lists for these unstoppable Dargo/Malcolm decks??? I have a play group in need of some reckoning.

I agree with you on basically all of these, Kardur in particular.

Hey do you guys know if Athreos’ coin passive can return creatures off a fight mechanic. I would assume so but the one time I played against it on mtgo it didn’t work. And I’m not sure if that’s because of fighting in the cleanup step or if Athreos is just broken on mtgo.

Everything you like about Kardur is true for Marisi. He is so disruptive and awesome. One of my favourite decks at the moment.

the more i watch the more i love this channel

Hamza is surprisingly good. As long as you have a draw engine (Guardian Project, the great Henge, beast Whisperer ect), just cast a Basri's solidarity or have a Cathars Crusade or have a Renata or that Unicorn that does the same thing and you can just pile the creatures onto your field rapid-fire.

4000 views but only 370 likes?!?!?! There is something wrong with those like buttons. You guys do too good a job to have so few likes with that many views.

Grist, the Hunger Tide, you need to do a video on this cards please!!

Kept blinking kardur doomscourge no one was able to touch me.

I use Athreos The Shroud-Veiled in conjunction with Nevinyrral. Together with Erobos The Bleak Hearted, they make the best Perpetual Board Wipe combo.

btw is there a video I missed on how y'all met/became friends? curious about the origin story haha

You you have a video outlining the best “paperweight” spells? What I mean is spells like Imprison in the Moon and Song of the Dryads, but detain spells can often be just as good.

Keep up the good content

I got a Nymris flash matters deck. It’s super oppressive and it makes the game last like 20 turns.

Kardur is one of if not my favorite deck. Its so fun to flood everyone's board with tokens and then say "alright, now attack each other" 😂

With Velomachus the problem with extra combats is that they way he manifests the spells there are only 2 of the extra combat spells that work with his ability, the other ones require you to be in a mainphase and it's during combat so they don't work.

Definitely throwing Kardur in my Niv-Mizzet Reborn flicker deck >:)

Dina doesn't even need to be in the command zone. I put her in the 99 of my budget Slimefoot deck without changing anything else and it's made a world of difference.