Understanding Chop Suey!

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@12tone 4 года назад

Support the National Bail Fund Network: secure.actblue.com/donate/bailfundscovid BLM resources: blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ Music Theory's White Racial Frame: musictheoryswhiteracialframe.wordpress.com/ Some additional thoughts/corrections: 1) I'm sure I'm gonna get some folks mad at me for "getting political", so if that's you… sorry. I guess. Here's the thing, though: I don't view the question "Should black people in America be killed for no reason during routine interactions with people sworn to serve and protect them?" as having more than one valid answer. If that bothers you, maybe it's worth asking why. What part of that statement feels incorrect? It's a hard thing to sit with, and I understand the knee-jerk reaction to push back, but try to push past that and ask yourself why it's so important to you that I'm wrong here. Trust me, it's worth it. 2) Yeah, I decided to switch to using real stems for this 'cause it turned out to be basically impossible to make those chord trills sound decent in MIDI. I may do it again, I may not: This one got an automatic copyright claim from a company I've never had to deal with before, so we'll see how that plays out. I do think it's a quality improvement, but is it worth the hassle? Dunno. We'll see how I feel next time. 3) To be a bit more precise on the high guitar strum in the intro, I slowed it down and counted it out and I'm pretty sure it's roughly playing an 21:16 polyrhythm against the main tempo. (Triplets are a 24:16 polyrhythm, which is why they sound close to but not quite correct.) I didn't really get into the specifics in the video, though, because at that speed I don't think it comes across as polyrhythmic. It just feels generically fast. 4) I should note that the bIII chord is actually somewhat complicated functionally: It can be tonic or subdominant, depending on usage. Here, I think it's better viewed through a tonic lens, but I wanted to acknowledge the ambiguity somewhere. 5) Seriously, please donate to the national bail fund or other anti-racist organizations if you can. Speaking up helps, but in order to sustain a movement you need resources.

@tylerhackner9731 4 года назад

From Minneapolis Thank you. Don’t be ashamed of covering this. Never has there has been a more appropriate time to analyze this (their aggressive political activism). #BlackLivesMatter

@hrlarson 4 года назад

NPC 1984 So unfollow.

@RafaelMartinezSalas 4 года назад

@NPC 1984 it's his channel, he has a right to support and express his views whenever he wants to. Music also has been used politically, so it's not as if it cannot be relevant about politics, social justice, protests, etc.

@ospero7681 4 года назад

Yeah...too bad the band's drummer apparently sees things a little differently. www.blabbermouth.net/news/system-of-a-downs-john-dolmayan-praises-donald-trump-calls-him-the-greatest-friend-to-minorities/

@nacoran 4 года назад

I spent hours and hours playing along with Robyn Adele Anderson's cover of Chop Suey on my harmonica. I keep trying to get the energy up to do a recording where I do all the parts on harp.

@barryhomeowner9293 4 года назад

'when death is unjust anger and sorrow are both valid responses' Well that's worryingly timely

@virtueisdead 4 года назад

;-;

@nef36 4 года назад

Ending of video: I shall now make my appearance

@Rollermonkey1 4 года назад

Yeah, that analysis comment hit pretty hard coming right now.

@csabi115 4 года назад

It was obviously intended.

@jacobp.2024 4 года назад

All of the people we've lost to riots has got us livid all right.

@mattbutler4953 4 года назад

12 Tone: Why did they do this? Me: THEY WANTED TO! 12 Tone: Short answer is because they can. Me: awwww.....

@KaEff1994 4 года назад

Such a missed opportunity

@TheRealBozz 4 года назад

Ive now read that post about 8 times and, for some reason, it just gets funnier.

@raidedsalt7110 4 года назад

I come back to this video constantly and oh my goodness I can't stop laughing at this comment

@aldeayeah 2 года назад

Trust in my dissonant bass line.

@QuietDarkness27 2 года назад

So what you are saying is the build-up was there, but the payoff was lacking...

@musicased9591 4 года назад

"The song starts like this" *acoustic strumming* Me: NO IT'S "we're rolling suicide"

@dominikweber4305 2 года назад

I love how shouted NO IT'S but the "we're rolling suicide" is quiet again

@UnforgivenIV 3 года назад

"Never met a metalhead that doesn't like System Of A Down" Truth!

@-maxgomez.1134 2 года назад

🤘🏼🤘🏼

@minecraftsteve2504 2 года назад

I have, they're pretty sad people

@Pazuzu4All 2 года назад

There are plenty who don't like System of a Down. A lot of them are very gatekeep-y about what gets called "metal" and even more so about what gets called "good metal."

@nickferra7487 2 года назад

My dad is the unicorn in my life, the only metal head I've met who doesn't like them

@vasileiavasilakaki3274 2 года назад

I have

@gpeddino 4 года назад

This song was originally titled “Suicide”, but the band was forced to change the title by the recording company, so they used the cheeky title “Chop Suey!”. Right at the start you can hear Serj saying “we’re rolling Suicide”.

@chrysthalmethal970 4 года назад

IIRC "Chop Suey" was taken from "Self-righteous Suicide". It sounds a bit like "Self-righ(Chop Suey)side"

@yuribillones5094 4 года назад

Considering this came out 9/11... it was to their best interest to rename it. Bah, I'm not a core member so what do I know.

@davidmann307 4 года назад

@Gui Porto More specifically, they were asked to 'chop' the name 'Suicide,' (in other words, get rid of it) and so they opted for Chop Suey, as in; the demand- 'chop'! And the actual chopping of the word suicide... Sui---cide... 'chop'=Chop and sui=Suey... Chop Suey! -- Great song! Great band! Great shame, they can't find common ground to create new music again! 🤘

@ianmelodcs 4 года назад

@@davidmann307 bro that makes me so mad.. and the thing with john supporting trump really butchered my hopes of new material

@DickEnchilada 4 года назад

@@ianmelodcs as a bass player, it's always the drummers fucking things up.

@UDLXXL 4 года назад

"Sloppy doesn't mean bad, you just need to know how to use it" words to live by!

@Syrange13 3 года назад

Also applies to oral sex

@kjl3080 3 года назад

@@Syrange13 ...

@rskl8083 2 года назад

@@Syrange13 thanks for explaining the joke now its not funny

@RadioactiveNapalm 3 месяца назад

Basically any person who is a high functioning autistic, and I can confirm this from experience, that I do thing sloppy and I am sloppy but things still work out. Can’t keep my own house clean worth a shit, but I can keep my workspace cleaner than a germaphobe, I don’t follow the rules of how to clean my workspace, I just do, and it works better

@Randscorporation 4 года назад

Everyone talking about his fingernails but no one talking about how he holds his pen. His thumb isn’t even touching it. How?!?

@psimonkane7092 4 года назад

Lefty dark magic.

@jeremyhammond689 4 года назад

I know, right?

@russianfeline1286 4 года назад

I read this and Sanctuary Guardian played in my mind with an unmotivational post border

@jennifs6868 3 года назад

he is using the press-free hold. if you put the thumb on, it creates more tension. i used to have beautiful handwriting, but so many years of pressing with the thumb while journaling my life away, has caused me to investigate other pen grips...#nerdwriter

@ultragoat95 2 года назад

that’s how i do it

@MangaMarjan 4 года назад

Now I understand why the "why have you forsaken us" part is so powerful. Of course the vocal delivery is one of the best from Tankian but it also feels like home, like the final resting place. A great example why I love Bass. It's so subtle most of the time, like foreshadowing in movies and then has a big payoff like in the song. Great stuff!

@joshbittner 4 года назад

I'd love to see a breakdown of B.Y.O.B - because that song goes alllllll over the place, haha

@Ssshmoo 4 года назад

Or Mind

@sv32099 4 года назад

Aerials is pretty good too

@caydilemma3309 4 года назад

This could literally become a SOAD analysis channel and i wouldn’t complain

@ideitbawxproductions1880 4 года назад

it took me a long time to appreciate BYOB. it used to just sound like random shit thrown together, but over time I've grown to hear it more as a full song, and it's actually done really well

@oenwilson2486 4 года назад

I was thinking maybe Vicinity of Obscenity since he mentions kind of shifting gears

@user-us6yp9mk3p 4 года назад

"Battalions of riot police with rubber bullet kisses, baton courtesy, service with a smile." From "Deer Dance," about police brutality against peaceful protests, only 3 songs before Chop Suey in the album Toxicity, 2002.

@AdrianRojasF 4 года назад

And if that's too poetic for you, there's also "FUCK YOU, PIG! FUCK YOU, PIG! FUCK YOU, PIG! FUCK YOU, PIG!" in Mr. Jack.

@houstonthephantom 4 года назад

“Pushing little children with their fully automatics, they like to push the weak around!”

@corwin32 4 года назад

“We can afford to be neutral on a moving train”

@JustinBA007 4 года назад

That's my favorite System of A Down song ever, and should be the anthem of the protests.

@ErikGiovani 4 года назад

In an era of extra sensitivity because of 9/11 no fucks fiven

@liefkeenhart5993 4 года назад

"...the most beloved metal bands of the last thirty years." Me like, wtf am I doing with my life 1990 is 30 frickin years ago!

@Bryan-ce6bo 4 года назад

0/10 not a single Wake up or Table joke

@sf21787 3 года назад

You wanted two?!? A bit greedy with the chop suey jokes

@jitterbug5674 3 года назад

@@sf21787 i hate that that joke made me laugh

@AxeMan808 3 года назад

We call him "Little Bobby Tables."

@SlashCrash_Studios 24 дня назад

@@AxeMan808DROP TABLE students

@bazzfromthebackground3696 4 года назад

The bassline's like, "Guys, where are you going?"

@zackkotzias3304 4 года назад

I think it’s important to note that he’s not just “screaming bible verses.” He’s quoting some of the Bible’s account of what Jesus said on the cross. This fits perfectly to the song and it’s message because Jesus said what he said because he had to come to terms with his own forthcoming death, as we all do

@totenblume7517 4 года назад

To be exact, Jesus was quoting David, his direct ancestor, who had foresaw his descendant's awful death.

@davejacob5208 4 года назад

@@totenblume7517 to be REALLY exact, it is all a made up story.

@olliefoxx7165 4 года назад

@@totenblume7517 ??? I'm not following you on that. How so you support that statement?

@Dark_Minded18 4 года назад

@@olliefoxx7165 While there is record of a dude named Jesus who did die on a cross,there is no record that he rose again and there is no record of any of the thing's in the bible actually happening,which indicates that the bible is just a book of fictional stories

@Dark_Minded18 4 года назад

@@olliefoxx7165 And you can't just say that the bible is a record of the eventsbecause you can't prove that the author didn't make up the stories

@jade_capricorn 4 года назад

I have never understood what this song was about until this breakdown. When you pointed out the bass that represents death followed us throughout the entire song it did something to me and I couldn't stop crying. Thank you for sharing this with us.

@mitchinatr7093 3 года назад

“Father, into your hands, I condemn my spirit. Father, into your hands, why have you forsaken me?” Dang this song is hella powerful, especially now.

@seaniverse 8 месяцев назад

Idk if you’re even gonna see this, but the quote is “Father, into your hands, I commit my spirit” and the song says “commend” (which is a common mixup, I honestly thought it was commend). I tried to draft this without sounding condescending, but I couldn’t… sorry. It was just bothering me lol

@lostinthemasses 4 года назад

Remember after 9/11 when the mainstream media deconstructed this song saying that System of a Down "A MIDDLE EASTERN BAND" had coded messages in the lyrics for the 9/11 attackers? It was like the Rammstein thing after Columbine except 10 times more disgusting.

@calbanks176 4 года назад

Dumb as hell. Armenia is barely in the middle east if at all. It’s in the Caucasus near Russia and Turkey. They don’t even speak Arabic in the region.

@ghostedgod5765 4 года назад

What happened with Rammstein? I know Marilyn Manson was accused of Columbine

@kylezo 3 года назад

Xenophobia is as old as America, woven into it's very fabric, clearly endorsed by the countries acceptance of Don Drumpf as pres. It's sad that ppl don't often enough reflect on the vitriol of the past while perpetuating the same race-based xenophobia presently. America is broken.

@cjxgraphics 3 года назад

@@kylezo Even Benjamin Franklin was afraid the German immigrants would take over. Then we get the whole Gangs of New York era. Irish, Italians, Catholics, Hispanics, Chinese, Middle Eastern, etc. Xenophobia has been here as long as we have.

@Kat-nd5fq 3 года назад

On the topic of Rammstein and 9/11, the music video for Ich Will, which features some very terroristic imagery, was released on the 10th of September, 2001.

@lucaleander 4 года назад

Thumbnails on RU-vid are getting out of hand...

@grspnt 4 года назад

yeah they've gotten really long

@jeffallen55 4 года назад

I kept getting distracted.

@timothycater3928 4 года назад

No this guy’s actual fingernails are too long. That thumb makes me feel uncomfortable

@grspnt 4 года назад

@@timothycater3928 that's the joke

@Soloyologaming 4 года назад

I was scrolling to see anyone else saw

@aaroncreek180 4 года назад

SOAD: makes awesome song This guy: 10 YEARS OF RESEARCH MUST BE DONE!

@arizonagreenbee 2 года назад

That's how music theory works. Don't like it, don't watch.

@aaroncreek180 2 года назад

@@arizonagreenbee 😭😭😭

@npc1172 4 года назад

I never realized how interesting music theory is.

@eduardsusai559 3 года назад

Same

@bortjohnson829 4 года назад

so, are you a left handed classical guitar player?

@MinecRenne100 4 года назад

Exactly my thought

@SUENOSHIPHOP 4 года назад

@@MinecRenne100 but you can see both of his hands in the video, and both have long nails.

@bortjohnson829 4 года назад

@@SUENOSHIPHOP an ambidextrious classical guitar player?

@sv32099 4 года назад

I think he's said before that he's ambidextrous musically. I don't remember what video it was

@MrSmith92913 4 года назад

Nah he probably just does A LOT of coke.

@brogansmith1342 4 года назад

"When death is unjust, anger and sorrow are both valid responses" *suddenly relevant*

@PhyreI3ird 4 года назад

It's never been irrelevant

@nicholasmullins3693 4 года назад

It's always been relevant. We just don't always think about it, so when it does some up, it's exacerbated.

@fmlAllthetime 4 года назад

In agreement with every other response here.

@AxeMan808 3 года назад

Suddenly IN YOUR FACE IN YOUR TOWN. That's the change.

@YautjaSpacePirate Год назад

Bunch of innocents have died and no one, not even "freedom-loving" Christians bothered to stop wrongful deaths. "Equal under justice," huh?

@demonbynature Год назад

I really hate how everyone ignores or glosses over the beautiful piano piece at the very end of the song. For such a heavy, depressing song, it brings beauty and peace to the end of the song, as if they are finally laying that person to rest with dignity.

@YellowLAVA 4 года назад

HE DIDN'T ANALYZE THE PIANO AT THE END

@arizonagreenbee 2 года назад

Chances are it's just not very relevant to the general song meaning.

@Darm0k 4 года назад

I'm not even a metal head and I think System is probably one of the best bands of the last 20 years.

@winlover37 2 года назад

They are wholly unique in sound. One of my favorite bands.

@corwin32 4 года назад

Every time I watch a 12 Tone vid, I have to go immediately listen to the song, to appreciate it with my newfound wisdom

@euanmangan7760 4 года назад

Bruh when the bass part payed off my brain literally melted that's so ingenious

@FelixRosas10 4 года назад

I’d like to say I appreciate your drawings. That seems like it takes a lot of extra time with editing and timing and script writing and all that, so want to let you know it doesn’t go unnoticed or unappreciated.

@ganon1028 4 года назад

The harmonies in the final chorus are some of the most transcendent moments in all of music for me.

@arklowrockz 4 года назад

Serj and Daron's harmonies at the end are probably one of favourite pieces of music in any genre. Still feel the same listening to them 20 years later.

@ganon1028 2 года назад

@limelight81 Some of the best things are fairly basic. Surprisingly, music has developed rules around conventions that are pleasing to our ears. And like you have any idea how much music I listen to, and have listened to. Sure buddy, I'm not allowed to share which pieces of music I personally love the most because of something hypothetically better that you haven't even mentioned.

@ganon1028 2 года назад

@limelight81 Why exactly? Why does it suggest that? I have a vinyl collection over 200 albums big, I've nearly filled my Spotify library, a few years back I had a policy of discovering at least 2 new artists a week, I scoured my local music scene with friends. I listen from everything from classical to metal, prog, hip hop, punk, soul, electronica, ambient, folk, blues, synthpop, dance and you get the point Not that I think that matters, because I don't think anyone's enjoyment of music should be based upon how much music they've heard, that is peak elitism to me. Some of the best songs ever have been written with 3 chords, sometimes throwing 1000 notes at a wall just results in unlistenable garbage, and sometimes the opposite is true yes. But your whole attitude is just everything that's wrong with music fans to me, instead of explaining your reasoning you just result to a lazy ad hom where you accuse someone not having suitable enough credentials for you. Music is personal, you might really love an old song because it reminds you of a lost family member or a happier time in life. Or maybe you just like how it sounds. I know music theory, I've studied it for fun, but you don't need to understand the inner workings of something to enjoy it, or even to appreciate the craft that has gone in. Isn't that what this channel is about? Taking popular songs and analysing WHY they work? You can jerk off to psych folk crust fusion from 1992 all you want, there is value in popular music and it doesn't make you some kind of arbiter of taste to dunk on it. I hope you have a good day, and enjoy whatever it is that you like

@Kagomai15 2 года назад

@@ganon1028 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@brandontadday6288 6 месяцев назад

No truer words have ever been spoken.

@bassman9261995 4 года назад

Your midi guitar sounds have gotten a lot better!!! It felt almost like i was listening to stems from the recording!

@DarrenNoFun 4 года назад

If sarcasm that's the best comment ever... If not then... I have no words. Shh... Don't spoil it.

@ashscott6068 4 года назад

Yeah, he even reproduced the person's voice you hear through the mic on the guitar amp in the verse.

@EncinosLee 4 года назад

Those sounded like the RSE sounds from GuitarPro6, I could be wrong though. They are an upgrade but not too far from the Generic Midi sounds IMO.

@brunocosta6849 4 года назад

Pls let this be sarcasm... if not I'll say it. These are the guitar stems from the actual song (apart from those little chords he MIDI'd in when explaining the progression) I am ready for it... please just /r/whooooosh me

@bassman9261995 4 года назад

This was actually not sarcastic. I was trying to give a genuine complement on the production because a lot of the midi turns me off in spite of having a really engaging script and visual style.

@hiqwertyhi 4 года назад

"when death is unjust anger and sorrow are both valid responses" damn

@miniyodadude6604 4 года назад

I didnt realize he was lefty until i saw his left hand had long fingernails, lol

@diegosanchez894 4 года назад

also that's the hand he uses to write?

@umu5527 3 года назад

Their*

@ojcmaboloc2658 4 года назад

okay, this song is deeper than what i expected

@greatkevoski7579 4 года назад

Holy mountains will make you cry when you see what it is really about

@dominikweber4305 2 года назад

@@greatkevoski7579 most SOAD songs will except Bounce maybe that'll just make you laugh uncontrollably

@dominikweber4305 2 года назад

@@greatkevoski7579 but yeah holy mountains is one of my favourites too

@icantexistence 2 года назад

@@dominikweber4305 bounce and Cigaro are both that make me laugh

@lanceuppercut_ Год назад

This song is just as deep as I assumed it to be

@Antilles1974 4 года назад

Watching this, completely distracted by your left thumbnail.

@RhythmLP 4 года назад

Bro same, I wish they woulda cut that shit LMAO

@shigekax 4 года назад

@@RhythmLP you know some instruments requires nails right My guitar teacher taught me how to put on acrylic nails and he was a 60 years old man lol

@buttpounder2005 4 года назад

@@shigekax it is not at all necessary to grow out your nails for classical guitar

@tonydidio2665 4 года назад

I say just approach the visual aspect of his videos so he's not wiggling the damn thing around the screen the whole time.

@joshbayley5775 4 года назад

It doesn't help that he can't hold a pen properly either it just makes the nail more prominent

@Flk0217 4 года назад

Middle School me hearing toxicity for the first time was a game changer in my musical upbringing. As a music teacher now soad is still one of the greatest things to ever come across my ears in my life

@Eric_Aerolis 4 года назад

Deer dance lyrics are super powerful in the recent happenings: Circumventing circuses, Lamenting in protest, To visible police, Presence sponsored fear, Battalions of riot police, With rubber bullet kisses, Baton courtesy, Service with a smile

@Viviantoga 4 года назад

Hearing the original audio used in a 12 Tone song analysis video gave me whiplash, somehow.

@NOLASkaGuitarist 4 года назад

We need SOAD more than ever right now...

@felpaprod4943 4 года назад

Not going to happen, John is supporting trump while serj it's full anti system right now

@dismantledbrain5910 4 года назад

@@felpaprod4943 Why do you think when someone says "We need _____ now more than ever," that they are implying they side with the rioters? I'd love to hear a band criticize the killings, lootings, political puppeting and glorification of a repeat offender. Everyone is afraid of being "cancelled" and just ponder to the BLM and the left.

@felpaprod4943 4 года назад

@@dismantledbrain5910 The you should go to listen Metallica, not system of a down, or another white supremacist metal band, there are plenty of them. System of a down it's not coming back, a person like serj Tankian won't allow stupid pro trump comments, the band it's over. You can not expect system of a down making a song about poor whites being afraid of looting, if Dolmayan now feels like a white supremacist that doesn't mean that Serj will stand that. Serj will never be part of the oppressor, have it clear.

@felpaprod4943 4 года назад

@@dismantledbrain5910 Serj Tankian it's politically in the left side, in case you didn't know. If you want to hear song about white supremacy and being all psycho about communist, there are plenty of metal bands, the metal community it's fulfilled with nazis, si why would you want more bands like that?

@dismantledbrain5910 4 года назад

@@felpaprod4943 So anyone who supports Trump or is against LOOTING is a white supremacist? This conversation is offically over, because your view is so distorted that there's no point in trying to reason with you. P.S. there's a lot of black people supporting Trump and criticizing BLM, so shake off that white guilt, it's disgusting. Edit: I assumed you are white to give you the benefit of the doubt for that "poor whites comment", because otherwise you're the racist one.

@Jacob-iz6ep 4 года назад

You should do "Question!" by them because it has so many time signature changes

@dominikweber4305 2 года назад

NA NANA NANANANANA

@flame3942 4 года назад

I straight up hear "the more you know" jingle everytime he draws a star. just stumbled upon this channel I love the work your doing keep it up. have a great day everyone :)

@Ashawadance 4 года назад

Something tells me Daron didn't know he was doing such outstanding musical things when he've made a song))) I guess he was just having great creative fun.

@StellarGale 3 года назад

It's when musician doesn't know theory that he can express himself purely, creating not something that is "right", but something unique. That is a power of creativity and free mind.

@HoudiniFontmeister 2 года назад

In the end he could hear it sounded good and thats what matters in the end

@dominikweber4305 2 года назад

@@StellarGale yeah right so you're telling me all the classical composers didn't express themselves purely? Also were does "theory" start? Because technically simply learning chords is already theory. Your comment is ignorant, brain-dead bs

@kamukameh 2 года назад

@@HoudiniFontmeister but in the end, it doesn't even maatteeerr "sing"

@adamclarke403 4 года назад

Love how you talk about police brutality and fail to mention deer dance. Even Prison Song and Toxicity aren't necessarily about police, Prison Song is about government policy and Toxicity, much like Chop Suey! is one of those songs (imo) you can't say is this or that, it's supposed to be interpreted in anyway shape or form. Side note my ex's phone number ends with the guitar tabs for toxicity lmao.

@insomniostudios4359 4 года назад

What about Mr. Jack? That song is literally about police brutality ._.Xd

@RickyRatte Год назад

So at the start of the video, you said this won't be your last video on SOAD, I think it's about time for another one, they are awesome!

@giga3132 4 года назад

i’ve never seen one of your videos before, but i’m so glad this was recommended to me. it was perfect timing. i was a baby when this song came out, but it still became one of my favorite songs of all time. this song has an even greater meaning to me now, and i’ll be remembering all the lives that were unjustly lost every time this song plays. thank you!

@MultiMinecraftPiggie 4 года назад

12tone should look into Thank You Scientist. I'd love to see what they do with their amazing prog goodness.

@VOYAGEUR-YT 4 года назад

That would be sweet! I'd also love to see some BTBAM but that's probably not very likely to happen

@danielhayun304 4 года назад

YES

@eliassimon666 4 года назад

I know he's said before that Bohemian Rhapsody was way too complicated for a video, so I wouldn't count on TYS, which is on another level. Unless he, like, specifically gets help from Tom Monda. Out of curiosity, which tune would you guys want? I'd vote for FXMLDR or Psychopomp.

@pikapuffin368 4 года назад

@@eliassimon666 FXMLDR is the song that got me interested in this band, so I'd second that.

@singerofsongs468 4 года назад

I would LOVE to see that! An analysis of Psychopomp would be really cool!

@GoodVolition 4 года назад

Good lord you could cut nylon strings with that thumbnail.

@skullyairsoft80 Год назад

I always get chills when the last section of this song hits. Absolutely beautiful arrangement between the main band members, the additional orchestral instruments in the background, and all of the vocal harmonies, not to mention the lyrics.

@catburglar82 4 года назад

Yeah, well. Despite everyone and their grandma knowing SOAD, this is why I still consider that band underrated. Single songs of them beat the ever living crap out of entire albums and discographies of most other artists in terms of originality. Too bad Serj is such a diva and they never made new records.

@Jim-jo8vz 2 года назад

"A thing isnt special because it lasts." "Youre unbearably naive." "Well i was born yesterday."

@jakekneega7400 2 года назад

From what I remember, the band went on an indefinite hiatus because of a failure to compromise between Serj and Daron. Daron wanted to have more input when it came to songs, such as being more of an alternate lead singer and actually writing songs for the band. Serj, however, had been doing that since the band's inception, and felt that there was no need to involve another writer when what he had been coming up with was doing so well. There was some compromise, which is why you hear Daron so much more on Mesmerize/Hypnotize, but it wasn't enough to satisfy him, and Serj was really getting into his solo projects, so the band agreed to go on an indefinite hiatus, with the unspoken idea that they probably wouldn't be making music together again. Serj has kept up with his solo projects, Daron started Scars on Broadway with John, and Shavo I think went on to be part of North Kingsley.

@crythunder6267 4 года назад

I don't think 12tone has trimmed his nails the whole quarantine

@hannahl6845 4 года назад

*their

@apart-timeastronaut6530 4 года назад

@@hannahl6845 you're obnoxious

@DarrenNoFun 4 года назад

@@apart-timeastronaut6530 how correcting someone about the subjects proper pronoun obnoxious?

@krosskancelvlogs 4 года назад

Darren D. MacDonald because nobody gives a shit

@DarrenNoFun 4 года назад

@@krosskancelvlogs awfully insulting to the RU-vidr you are currently watching.

@jonki1980 4 года назад

I have to say for me - this has to be one of the finest songs from system of a down. Incredible breakdown explanations - it has so many movements, let alone timing in the tune. Great work!! 👍🎶

@greatkevoski7579 4 года назад

This song along with Holy Mountains always makes me feel some type of way

@LaFolleD972 4 года назад

English is not my native language, I can't say I have an extensive knowledge of music but your explanation is so clear. It feels like I am hearing Chop Suey for the first time again. Thanks.

@dudubbi 4 года назад

Great video as always, but I have just one perplexity: The 2nd chord in the intro and choruses is not an Am, imho. The vocals sing an Eb over the A and C of the chord, making it an A diminished triad. (Also the Eb in the bass is quite relevant aswell)

@travisedmondson3227 4 года назад

I agree. The harmony in the intro/chorus feels very diatonic G min with no evidence of A min in there

@antoinemartin1651 3 года назад

And at 4:00 they play 3rds, not 4ths that would outline an E natural.

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 3 года назад

Ciao dudubbi

@cometh4124 2 года назад

bro

@danbernier4215 Месяц назад

@dudubbi i think you're right. and the Adim reinforces the Gm tonic, the relative minor of Bb...which makes that F/Bb in the chorus make even more sense. this takes away nothing from how cool the bass line is, and working a 7dim into a song for extra tension is so underrated

@brentdrysdale4730 4 года назад

Probably my favorite episode yet. SOAD is such a great band that always strike some kindnof conversation

@zachrabbit5463 2 года назад

we all loved this song as kids having no idea how deep as was and i think i can say the same for alot of music. Growing up and revisiting these songs gives me so much more love for these bands. This is almost 2 years later but i also want to let you know as a black metalhead, i really appreciate you using your platform to spread a wider message, Much like system of a down did (just in a different way) You definitely earned a subscriber and i look forward to seeing more breakdowns like this. Death tackled alot of deep topics and also had great song writing ability, if you haven't, i think you should do a video on them when you can!

@briankennedy4141 4 года назад

This was a great break down of a song thats been in my musical periphery for almost two decades, and i'm stoked af that you're using your platform to support what matters. I am a bit bummed that you didnt break down the wild ass vocal harmonies at the climax of the song. I've transcribed them, but i'd be interested to hear a music theory nerd's take on the voice's function

@dandrive3249 4 года назад

I was a baby when they came out. They have always been my favorite band and is one of the many reasons I have a love of metal music.

@YellowLAVA 4 года назад

I didn't exist when they came out

@totallyasher 2 года назад

@@YellowLAVA literally same..

@brandoncalvert8379 4 года назад

this has always been one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite bands. thanks so much for this breakdown, and your very clear support of the protests

@Etholux 4 года назад

One of the things I really love and appreciate about this analysis video is that it dives into why each part works and how they add into the song, not just the chords.

@KidneyFailureGaming 3 года назад

This song along with Aerials and BYOB is the reason I am a proud SOAD fan. You're bang on correct on the fact that no one else sounds like them. They are incredibly difficult to pigeonhole into a specific genre and that's what I like about em. Thanks for making this video man. Cheers.

@kevinberstler 4 года назад

I too have not found a fellow metal head who doesn’t appreciate or at least respect System of a Down. Great analysis. Hope you’re doing well.

@EvelynnEleonore 4 года назад

Hatsune Miku is the drummer of SOAD little known fact

@ghostedgod5765 4 года назад

What?

@james6167 4 года назад

Weeb

@hellofriends2360 4 года назад

@@ghostedgod5765 basically hatsune miku created harry potter, minecraft and was the drummer of system of a down. The bigotted people we think made them actually just stole them from creative genius miku

@l_ndonmusic 3 года назад

Kanashimi I think it was originally made when Notch said some transphobic things on twitter or something. The joke is generally just used when a creator comes out with a game, music, or any other media that’s pretty well received, but then later says or does something bad (Jk Rowling and Notch saying transphobic things on Twitter. Stuff like that)

@alejandrorivas4585 3 года назад

@@l_ndonmusic if only he was a terf, instead of a full on nazi

@LolitaAngel6 4 года назад

This song has been here for me through so many tough times. Thank you for covering it.

@faithdorey5919 2 года назад

I like these analysis because alot of people focus on the words and meaning of a song and here you explain why everything else works to make this iconic as it is, there are a ton of songs about death and dying and no matter hoe you look at it this one stands out.

@Danfunnyman1234 4 года назад

12:50 What do tables have to do with that?

@mk_rexx 4 года назад

Serj is singing about suicide, at the same time trying to help us find our lost keys. Maybe we left them on the table.

@cygnise176 4 года назад

MK Rex great description

@Labyrinth1010 4 года назад

This song is so... brilliant. On so many levels. I still remember hearing it for the first time (it was introduction to this incredible band). My reaction was "What the hell is this?!". I still have that reaction today. I don't think SOAD have any weak songs, and many are incredible, but this one... It's on a whole other level. Mind blowing. And this video just furthers what I've always felt about this song, and about this band. If only Daron and Serj can sort out their differences, we may a proper continuation of the story of System of a Down.

@bobjeezorham7658 4 года назад

I absolutely love this band and this song, I'm really happy to see you cover it even if I don't really understand the composition of music. I am a bit sad that you never mentioned the piano parts, though. That was a really interesting addition to the song.

@rockleesmile 2 года назад

Holy shit this video is so good. I've always loved this song and I had no idea how well written it was. Thank you for breaking it down and also for the excellent message at the end. Subscribed.

@ErikGiovani 4 года назад

SOAD was my first concert (13 years old) and is still my favorite band of all time

@jtduarte6829 4 года назад

That fingernail really distracts me!

@dat6uy2 4 года назад

Great video, I’d say it’s perfect timing for a video like this and of this quality with the resources you’ve provided for us

@orbweaver9750 3 года назад

SoaD is a long-time heavy metal love of mine, even long after I grew out of nu-metal and moved on to other, more melodic and complex subgenres. I think one of the reasons I continue to love SoaD despite growing out of a lot of their peers is because they ARE complex. And melodic. And chaotic. And intelligent. And just all together interesting to listen to, and you hear something new every time you listen to their songs. I really enjoyed this video. Breaking apart the music like you did really highlights just how many layers of meaning there are to their music beyond the lyrical content.

@TheBawss90 4 года назад

6:45 bruh just noticed the nail

@bijoux873 4 года назад

It's like Carrie Fisher's coke nail in starwars, once you notice it you can't stop looking at it lol

@FreeBroccoli 4 года назад

I head the original stems instead of a midi recreation, and I thought this was Beato's channel for a moment.

@johnl2876 4 года назад

Such an amazing breakdown! Thanks for going in depth into songs like this. I would be REALLY interested to see what sort of breakdown you would go into for any Nightwish songs, especially since their composer has been compared to "modern metal Mozart." Keep up the great stuff, look forward to seeing more!

@docauch5938 2 года назад

I’ve never heard such eloquent support for a such a meaningful cause. That ending left me speechless and emotional. You sir are inspiring. Thank you.

@levihigginbotham6307 4 года назад

I love that we have actual audio samples on this one

@LivingDeathGuy 4 года назад

DO BYOB whenever I can’t tell you what to do

@RunsLikeMays 4 года назад

You bringing up the album reminds me of the chorus for "Deer Dance", my favorite song on the album: "Pushing little children / With their fully automatics / They like to push the weak around"

@adamaparicio7500 2 года назад

Just found out you exist- my musical brain is so happy to see someone communicate these things in such a creative way. You got a new sub

@Grt31pmkin 4 года назад

Everytime I see something similar to the protests we've seen over the last weeks, I fire up System of a Down. 'Deer Dance,' mostly. I love their dynamic quality where they can show the madness and brutality of a scene with their distorted guitars and then slide into the more folksy, quieter, but just as busy, instruments to kind of punctuate the milling hopelessness of 'rabble.' To me, System of a Down is the bucket of cold water that shocks you out of complacency and the mirror that asks 'where the fuck are you?' -in this moment. As an aside, was always curious about the title. A deer dance is the moment when a protest or riot is dispersed, when the crowd kind of darts away and mills about afterwards. The more you know

@singerofsongs468 4 года назад

The timely choice of song and your addressing of the BLM and police brutality outcry is so well-done and comsiderate, while still strongly affirming a position of support and giving the matter the importance it deserves. Thank you.

@damiansaucedo9951 2 года назад

I love how looking back at high school me, I took learning this song super serious. I was a beginner but I loved this song and I hated how other people got the strumming patterns wrong so I tried so hard to get every part right only to find out now that the fast strumming in the beginning was done sloppy but on purpose lol

@ravendevino6419 4 года назад

The song review broke through my compassion fatigue and the end message got me teary.

@bombarded15 4 года назад

This is like Zero Punctuation, have to listen to it at .75% speed to not feel like I'm having an anxiety attack especially with the drawings flying by

@WhirligigStudios 4 года назад

So, being pedantic, isn't that chord Adim, not Ami? When there's a fifth played over it (which isn't often), it's consistently an Eb.

@calbanks176 4 года назад

I was gonna say the same thing. It’s actually Am7-flat5 (aka A-half diminished7) which also accounts for the G pedal tone in the bass.

@SToroX8 4 года назад

every1 4got how underrated and genius soad was tx 4 remembering greats edit:1st intro to your channel and i subed hopefully we would see more soad in here)

@JaRew 2 года назад

Just found your channel and I’m so excited to be here!

@illsthaprophet 4 года назад

I never thought that a music analysis could make me cry, but this one did. Thank you.

@sharlharmakhis280 4 года назад

'Chop Suey' was my tweenage angst anthem, not even gonna lie

@travisnorman 4 года назад

Good on you for using your platform to spread positivity and education. Those two things are so important to our collective futures. Keep on rockin, sir.

@harekrsnaharerama8454 2 года назад

These videos are fucking amazing, never thought I'd be into theory until I saw these videos, it's like we already intuitively know it, but once you start explaining it, it's like the science behind what we feel

@BlacklightSummerOfficial 4 года назад

I don’t think Daron intended all this music theory your telling us

@mmuussmiiisssimmmmmmiiiii1034 4 года назад

Exactly the only thing he used to make this song was drugs

@BlacklightSummerOfficial 4 года назад

what no, creativity and talent my friend. With a little bit of ganja perhaps

@belcavendishny 4 года назад

Yeah, but it's still there, helping the more analytically-minded among us understand what some feel more primally

@bacicinvatteneaca 4 года назад

@@belcavendishny yeah but 12tone is seeing things that aren't there, like the A minor in the intro

@tylergaye5457 4 года назад

I can't help but focus on your disturbingly long finger nails.

@ZacxRicher 4 года назад

Omg I can't unsee this

@derekwestbrook9383 4 года назад

dude has those naruto in Kurama mode nails

@greenslothproductions5543 4 года назад

I kinda was hoping I wasn’t the only one who seen it

@jared305 4 года назад

69th like

@sergeantspeed5941 4 года назад

Aaaaannnd I'm never watching this channel again.

@midnightfm87 4 года назад

August Burns Red plays this song over the speakers before they come out at every show. It’s a great way to prime the crowd; all 4 times I’ve seen them it never fails to get everyone singing along at the top of their lungs and head banging, despite that’s it’s just being played back and not performed live. The song ends, the lights go out, the band comes out. It’s brilliant.

@gamanho1 2 года назад

Oh my, what was this video?! Amazing work, congratulations, please keep on the awesome work.

@benwagner4741 4 года назад

That nail looks like a goddamn feast to a nail-biter.

@alexillescas8521 3 года назад

Why are you singling me out like this?

@vegaomega6072 4 года назад

Ive always thought of the second chord in the chorus as an A dim, rather than A min. I think the bass Eb along with some of the vocal harmony and the fact that A dim is in the key of G minor helps to justify this. Just a thought.

@alsatusmd1A13 4 года назад

Minor keys can have the sixth or seventh degree of the scale raised in order to give a consonant triad on all seven degrees. Also, classically, bVI IIm/II° should resolve to V7, which is almost happening in reverse here (the backdoor bVII and IIm are transposed).

@MaggaraMarine 3 года назад

@@alsatusmd1A13 But if you listen to the song, the E natural is never played over the "Am" chord. The chord only includes notes A and C over a G pedal point. I would actually see it as part of the F major chord. The 2nd and 3rd bars together form the full F major chord. The 2nd bar includes the 3rd and 5th, and the 3rd bar includes the root and 3rd.

@ndescruzur4378 4 года назад

I was almost sleeping through all the video because I was sleepy. (Your calm voice didn't helped) but when you explained the plot twist of the bass line it blowed my mind so hard it opened my eyes and finally awake me after 2 hours of sleepy mood, thanks