Occult= special to you because you learned about it. Example: a Christmas gift is an occult ceremony because the gift is wrapped and the unwrapping process creates some extra special unveiling value.
Not exactly. The surprise metaphor was meant as an explanation for why a person should go into an initiation blind (so to say) as opposed to trying to learn what would happen ahead of time. In that case for it was more special = chance to have a real experience. Also I'll admit like any off the fly metaphor it fails to cover all possible renditions of the scenario. Just my take. Thanks for watching that part close to the end so you must have stayed for most of the video.
Correct and I wasn't trying to focus on them because they were the only one I was focusing on them because they're the easiest to encounter online. Because of that a lot of questions that I happen to get from people both at my lodge or outside of it tend to revolve around their group.
I'm not sure what you mean by invitation only, but most branches and related groups are open for people to apply for membership. I tend to think invitation only means that if you have contact with members and show interest, they may invite you to join. You may mean something different to that. Anyway, I'm the one who sent you the two Pansophers links on the Facebook HOGD group. :)
Oh hey nice to see you here! Thanks for watching. The reason I said it that way is that there are some GD groups that are invitation only. In particular the one I focused on in the video. You are totally correct though that most just want people to show up for a bit before asking to join. I didn't want to set people up for more acceptance than they might receive. However, I didn't want to scare people off so that's why I encouraged emailing and reaching out. Are you part of any of the groups you shared with me?
I should answer that in another episode! In fact of been thinking of doing an episode on "Occult Women" who are so often part of a "man's story" but never have their own told.
Tony Fuller's group is the true descendant of the New Zealand Group, down from Frank Salt and have a charter. The Cicero group is really the continuation of Alpha et Omega in the US and heavily contacted and guided by the third order. Regardie saved the magical current or Order, from a slow death.
An informative video. I'm always up for learning things. Unfortunately, the narration audio quality makes it difficult to hear clearly. The CC was most helpful. You might consider an external microphone. Best wishes to you, et al.
What about the Stella Matutina being taken to New Zealand where it flourished, and continued till the 1970s? And how Pat Zalewski restarted the GD from his contact with the adepts and teachings they gave him? His work is as important if not moreso than that of the Ciceros. Plus the tarot deck he and Christine Zalewski produced is more important than the Cicero one, and both are two of the 4 main GD decks available, and there are others also.
Also as I mentioned in the video I'm not a member of their group I'm just responding to them because they're the group that people end up bumping into more easily online.
@@ppobyenp Tony Fuller's group is the true descendant of the New Zealand Group, down from Frank Salt and have a charter. The Cicero group is really the continuation of Alpha et Omega in the US and heavily contacted and guided by the third order. Regardie saved the magical current or Order, from a slow death.
I'll be covering that in a separate episode. For now let me just say that modern magick is based on the idea that if everything (reality) is ultimately happening in our minds then changing our minds should change reality. It is also a bit simpler and more complicated than that which is why it will need its own episode.
It is not all Satanism but what do you mean it was in New Zealand for that long? I mean Christianity didn't even arrive there until December 1814. Are you saying the priests brought Satanists with them?
There is something called the "Study Circle of Sia" and they claim to be an Outer Order group. The larger GD group also has a temple there but it seems no public website.
I have. My video on them is more of an introduction but it's worth a watch if you want to learn about them. If you'd like me to go into more detail let me know I'm always asking for topics suggestions. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dzmHJqtELIU.html
wonder how our culture features in all this eh… like are the Pagan Nation occultists? not sure it’s all we have ever known with our guides you don’t have to write it down #indigenous
That's a very legitimate question and perspective. I was going to wait to address such questions until I could perhaps get an indigenous voice to join me so as to give their opinion and information. I feel that too many communities on the "outside" of the "main" conversation get talked about or for but don't often get the same chance to have their voices heard. Does that make sense?
Many people who claim to be "enlightened" or otherwise are often claiming something they have yet to achieve. Also no group is perfect and safe from having such members.
