Тёмный

Undertale Isn't That Good: Morbid Musings 

The Invisible Davis
Подписаться 29 тыс.
Просмотров 22 тыс.
50% 1

Today, I decided to make a very different type of video than what most of you are usually accustomed to.
I know this is kinda out of the blue, and that most of you are probably surprised that I'd even try to do this, but I hope that the majority of you understand that I just want to try and expand my editing abilities.
Twitter: / invisibledavis
#Undertale #Review #InvisibleDavis #MorbidMusings

Опубликовано:

 

26 сен 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 846   
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
This is very different than the usual content I make, and I hope you all enjoy it. I know it's a pretty big video, but I think most of you would enjoy it. Anyways, thanks for watching it if you did.
@firebolt3490
@firebolt3490 5 лет назад
I like this kind of content, the video was really well made. Great job!
@rocmoney7809
@rocmoney7809 5 лет назад
Its so weird how your so serious
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
@@rocmoney7809 I wanted to make something that is a lot more different than my content that I usually make. So, I felt like the more serious side was warranted to show that I this is not the more usual video.
@rocmoney7809
@rocmoney7809 5 лет назад
@@TheInvisibleDavis oh OK let's be honest I only found out bout your channel just last week I found your name from a certain video from the description
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
@@rocmoney7809 I'm sorta doing this for fun, not for profit. I'm just happy people are watching.
@DominatorLegend
@DominatorLegend Месяц назад
This game was released at the height of the Tumblr Steven Universe era. Is it any wonder a game about mindlessly forgiving everyone with a whole cast of "le quirky" characters got so overblown?
@ΣτέφανοςΔημόπουλος-η7τ
how exactly are you mindlessly forgiving everyone? it gives you a choice , there are multiple different neutral endings . its a game where you dont *have* to kill anyone , not *required* to not kill anyone . sans himself doesnt judge you if you ve killed some enemies that were attacking you. the game judges you when you go out of your way to kill. and as for the ''le quircky'' characters...well, i like it , personally , and so do a lot of other people . i dont see how thats a problem besides personal taste
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Месяц назад
​@@ΣτέφανοςΔημόπουλος-η7τtoo childish
@supercringeteam6666
@supercringeteam6666 2 года назад
the 3 things ill say in defense of the game is 1. asgore already knew he could get through the barrier but he could never bring himself to do it and rather decided to hope nobody ever falls down again, which toriel calls him out on 2. flowey does have emotions deep down ig the game is just trying to make the point that flowey can be a good person, hes just not trying and subconsciously using his soullessness to block off all the sadness he has 3. sans only cares in genocide not because you killed monsters but because if you get to asgore with enough power the world will be destroyed and all the future timelines corrupted, which, is exactly what happens in the genocide ending. other than that, sans knows that no matter what the timeline can just be reset no consequences even if youre a horrible person, which is why he doesnt fight you in any other ending.
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 Год назад
And something that seems overlooked about that whole conflict is that Toriel doesn't need to have Asgore do the plan. They're both boss monsters, as when you kill Toriel you see she has a boss soul.
@roca7268
@roca7268 Год назад
I'm super late, sorry. You mostly said right things, but I have only a little correction: Flowey didn't lost all his emotions, but he definitely lost "love, hope, compassion". If you go to the library, in fact, one of the books said that it is believed that monster souls are made of " love, hope, compassion", which is the very culmination of their nature. By losing his soul, Flowey lost those feelings. But he can still feel all the other emotions: he can feel curiosity, fun, fear, sadness, anger, and so on.
@redeyber
@redeyber Год назад
Flowey has emotions just hes incapable of feeling positive emotion You can see him feel anger and sadness multiple times but only love and true happiness as asriel
@samgreenblatt7074
@samgreenblatt7074 Год назад
I was a little surprised that you neglected to mention Alphys turning a bunch of essentially disabled people into Silent Hill and burying the evidence as a point against her. The narrative treats this like it's nothing major despite it sounding like something Josef Mengele might do. The endless status updates already turned me against her, that was the final nail in the coffin. What a bitch.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
☠️
@randomperson7350
@randomperson7350 8 месяцев назад
they were already dead lmao
@zunaqxc
@zunaqxc 3 месяца назад
she didnt have a choice 😭
@PaperAiden
@PaperAiden Месяц назад
​@@randomperson7350thats even worse if you thibk about it, imagine dying but some mf takes you and injects stuff into you that turns you into a monster, being able to live again but not really even being able to actually die, and your not even in the correct state of mind, thats like some actual living hell
@whitish1968
@whitish1968 3 года назад
Undertale is a good game ngl, but why does it have a fandom like this? There are countless other 8-bit story games, and undertale is one of them, i don't understand the hype around it. You play it once and you are done, that's it, why simp for it so much?
@aimlessequation5390
@aimlessequation5390 3 года назад
I mean, honestly, I have so much respect for the game and what the creators were trying to achieve but the fanbase/hype is just a bit much. Undertale has its high points but it also has many low points, that most people don't acknowledge because "it introduced new ideas to the gaming industry". Not that it didn't, but it wasn't the first time a game used the "don't kill", "your choice", or "multi-ending" tactic. While it was indeed unique and was well executed in general, I still have many problems with the game even from an unbiased point of view.
@tobstobs950
@tobstobs950 3 года назад
Because, if you truly understand what Undertale is about, you DO NOT play it just once. There are 3 different routes and even after that there are still different variations depending on which route you took before your current route (some characters will remember what you did to them). Also: Undertale has tons of secrets and easter eggs all over the place. There are so many secret bosses and even things like the wrong number song (if you don't know what I'm talking about, you obviously can't judge Undertale as you don't even know most of it). Let me guess: You were probably just bored, started Undertale, skipped through 90% of the dialoge, killed every monster you met (even Toriel), were disappointed when you realized Sans would not fight you and then never touched the game again after defeating Omega Flowey. Undertale is so much more than just a random 8-bit game. It's a story about Love, Hope and Dreams. It's inspiring in so many ways. Even the soundtrack has just as many secrets as the game itself. It made me cry several times and even got me into producing music. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. People like you are the reason why it is so hard for indi creators to get their stuff out. Because you constantly reject their work and make it down.
@maer_chen
@maer_chen 2 года назад
@@tobstobs950 Some people just don't enjoy it, it's their opinion and you ranting about it isn't gonna change that. Undertale is far from being "the greatest game ever made" and not everyone wants to overhype indi games just to make it easier for other indi developers to sell their products. I don't even see what's supposed to be helpful about lowering your standards for future games' development, just so small devs have easier acces to the market. Would you rather have a bunch of low quality indi games, that get praised only for having turned out all right for a low budget game, but ultimately have nothing to offer? An indi game should only become successful because it deserves it and not because the buyers stopped caring about the product's quality
@tobstobs950
@tobstobs950 2 года назад
@@maer_chen Guess what: I never had the intention to change anyone's opinion. Some people just have bad taste. Also: Good graphics don't automatically make a game good. There are thousands of games with better graphics and bigger teams than Undertale, yet they are still regarded to be worse than Undertale. Just because Undertale was made by literally one person doesn't mean it's bad. It has such a powerful story, a good soundtrack and great characters which is something a lot of modern games lack of. Believe me: Undertale has a lot more quality to it than 99% of non indi games which you would know if you had ever played it. Let me guess: You probably spend your whole day consuming without ever producing something yourself yet you still have the audacity to tell someone who made an entire game on their own that their game is trash. You probably listen to massively over produced mainstream music, only play triple A titles and eat the same food every single day. I kinda feel sorry for you.
@maer_chen
@maer_chen 2 года назад
@@tobstobs950 Aww honey, no need to trash talk yourself (leave that to me), we all know you have bad taste, but there's really no need to point it out so blatantly Where did I ever say that good graphics equal a good game? FnaF Security Breach has one of the best graphics I've ever seen and yet in it's current state, it's one of the worst games ever made, so I don't know why you thought, this would somehow enhance your point... I agree that it has a good soundtrack, but that's it. The story is underwhelming and not that original, the characters are one dimensional (ironically, the only well written character is Chara, because there's a lot of room for interpretation regarding her morals - and no, I'm not gonna listen to you rant about Chara's gender being unspecified, she's a girl for me, end of discussion), worldbuilding isn't very enticing, gameplay is incredibly stale and the message it tries to convey is very naïve and disregards living being's complexity entirely - which makes pacifist as well as genocide route entirely unenjoyable for me. So as you can see, I know my way around the game and I still don't like it, I don't think it's a very good rpg game and it's very overhyped in my opinion. Exactly, if something is trash, I'm saying it how it is. I can appreciate people for trying, but if the end product isn't good, that's all there is to it, no need to praise something when it's not deserved and guess what - the praise Undertale gets *isn't* deserved, at least not to the extend of calling it "the best game ever" or whatever hardcore stans like to call it. It's just overrated. People can like it all they want, but they need to stop forcing its so called 'value' down people's throats (and yes, I'm looking at you Tobs Tobs) Way to go out of your way to make assumptions about someone you don't know, just because they disagree with you 😂 But sure, if it makes you feel better, after I've insulted your precious Undertale, go ahead, assume the worst 😇 I find it incredibly funny btw. how you praise the f*ck out of Toby's game, yet disregard it's oh so important message about lOvE aNd fOrGivNeS the first chance you get, because some strangers didn't enjoy your favorite game and throw a temper tantrum. You're very entertaining, you know 😉
@vgames9207
@vgames9207 3 года назад
Toby Fox makes a game about how EVIL people are for killing fictional characters in video games, so then the fanbase starts attacking peolpe because they are killing fictional characters and because undertale says you are EVIL FOR KILLING NOT REAL FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, so toby fox should not be surprised att this outcome.
@samot4100
@samot4100 3 года назад
If you think the game was trying to tell you how EVIL you are if you kill fictional characters then you greatly misinterpreted the point.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 2 года назад
@@samot4100 What _was_ the point, other than same cliche, misanthropic "hUmAnS r ThE rEaL mOnStErS" crap?
@samot4100
@samot4100 2 года назад
@@SonofTiamat That wasn't the point either. The point was to just show a realistic take if some random person showed up in your town and randomly started hunting and murdering people. Of course they're gonna evacuate and fight back/say how evil you are. Because your character in the game is, if you take that route. You're playing as a fucking serial killer lmao. That doesn't mean it's trying to say killing in video games is bad or teach you some lesson. Being the bad guy in genocide is part of the fun. People who think it's trying to teach a lesson are looking wayyy to deep. Lighten up a little it's just a game not some deep routed lesson on murdering in video games or "humans are the real monsters" or a lesson at all. It's just a route you can take where you get to be the villain.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 2 года назад
@@samot4100 Going by your logic, it's just as wrong for them to attack Frisk, or anyone else, unprovoked. If someone tries to hurt you, you're right to hurt them back. Sans can miss me with his "execution points, level of violence" crap
@samot4100
@samot4100 2 года назад
@@SonofTiamat The game addresses that. It only starts treating you a little tainted if you kill 9+ people. Because at that point it's already well explained that the monsters are scared and you can befriend them. Any number before that and sans says exactly what you did, that you were probably either confused or just defending yourself. Genocide is entirely different from any neutral route. In genocide you actively go out of your way to find monsters even if they are hiding in the corner cowering in fear from you. Or if the only reason they encountered you is to be your friend and they don't even attack at all. Some of if not most of the neutral routes can be passed off as self-defense but a genocide cannot. When a monster attacks you it does it out of fear and can easily be befriended, you have to remember it's not completely unprovoked. Humans pretty much woke up one day, chose violence against them, murdered hundreds of them and then traped them all underground. If they see one strolling by they're going to be terrified lol. Still though in some of the neutral routes you do have a right to fight back and your logic stands true, you do have a right to attack them because they did attack you. But when you do a genocide route you can be more easily compared to Michael Myers. You kill not out of self-defense but for the pure joy and power of it, not because you were scared but because of the torture you inflicted and the lives you ruined.
@elmeromogollon
@elmeromogollon 2 года назад
I think its the same case with persona 5, people ignore the flaws of the game and some fans havent even played the game or play rpgs at all.
@Adeyum64
@Adeyum64 2 года назад
True that. Even though I really liked P5R, it was toooooo overhyped man. Way tooooo overhyped. Same with The Last of Us. Yes I said it. The game was absolutely wild yes, but people act like the ending was not predictable at all. There are definetly mad underrated gems out there like Sleeping Dogs. I don‘t know why, but that game was on a whole new level, even with the flaws.
@akiradkcn
@akiradkcn Год назад
Apples to oranges
@flamehiro
@flamehiro Год назад
Really depends on the person if they even think the same flaws you define are even flaws. I often hear it cliche as the biggest argument and I haven't even noticed or cared for it. Also super nit picking on certain scenes that then again I didn't even notice.
@The_eggy_one
@The_eggy_one Год назад
I've played the game and honestly the highlights are the characters, and music. Gameplay is fine with a great battle system, I don't really know what people dislike about it.
@vinegar4556
@vinegar4556 Год назад
Funnily enough, for me, Undertale has the exact same problem as Persona 5. When a game stakes so much of its appeal on the characters and writing, those characters being irritating at best and the writing being fairly poor is absolutely damning for me. Granted, even P5 has the excuse of the problems coming from a poor translation, benefit of the doubt that Mr. Fox does not receive.
@shirvusszx5491
@shirvusszx5491 5 лет назад
I just love how the beginning of the video was so quiet, good job Davis! ☺
@silver_faun
@silver_faun 5 лет назад
Dang dude, the points you made were actually super accurate. I was one of those people completely blinded by the game to see its flaws, and I’m so glad I can finally see them now.
@alix6xgorg839
@alix6xgorg839 2 года назад
i was a fan of the game too, until i started game developing and played other games, now the indie game that i am a total simp for is Loop Hero
@dickthehead1145
@dickthehead1145 3 года назад
My biggest issue is that some of the characters I have absolutely no reason not to kill in self defence. Undyne, the spider, Metaton all are trying to kill you. Why on earth would I befriend them?
@fishingrod2253
@fishingrod2253 2 года назад
​@Demoniczny taboret i wish the game did something more impactful like in postal 1, maybe the main character breaks down realizing what they have done at the end, or maybe SUBTLY hinting that it was all your fault by some of the character's dialog, and not LITERALLY saying "boohoo you kill me friends and me funny waluigi brother you are monster boohoo", OR MAYBE MAKE THE CHARACTERS MORE LIKEABLE AND NOT ANNOYING, TOBY
@ItsHim_and_ItsMe
@ItsHim_and_ItsMe 2 года назад
But you're not forced to befriend them.
@dickthehead1145
@dickthehead1145 2 года назад
@@ItsHim_and_ItsMe I don't see how that's relevant?
@ItsHim_and_ItsMe
@ItsHim_and_ItsMe 2 года назад
My dog stepped on a bee Excuse me honor, relevance
@fluoro4502
@fluoro4502 2 года назад
@@ItsHim_and_ItsMe According to Toby Fox, killing is always bad
@Yogibo_
@Yogibo_ 5 лет назад
I agree with most of this stuff! To be fair I haven't played the game myself. Though I've seen other RU-vidrs play it but I didn't think it was as SPECTACULAR as the fans made it out to be. But there was def some things that were interesting and enjoyable ^-^ Also this video was well put together and enjoyable to watch too! Keep up the good work!
@thealmostdeadpatient7767
@thealmostdeadpatient7767 3 года назад
the only really interesting parts for me were during the genocide/true pacifist route
@blockbuild5728
@blockbuild5728 3 года назад
@@thealmostdeadpatient7767 witch are the main focuses of the game
@thealmostdeadpatient7767
@thealmostdeadpatient7767 3 года назад
@@blockbuild5728 yea pretty much I did genocide it was pretty difficult but I didn’t get the hype I thought I would
@thealmostdeadpatient7767
@thealmostdeadpatient7767 3 года назад
@@blockbuild5728 I got hype but not the hype other got
@blockbuild5728
@blockbuild5728 3 года назад
@@thealmostdeadpatient7767 I’m 99% sure in the genocide route your supposed to not feel any hype at all, like a heartless killer
@canontheory
@canontheory Год назад
Played 2 hours and got bored. I love rpgs but undertale isn’t cutting it. Linear paths with easy puzzles and no secret areas to find. Not enough gameplay and way too much dialogue.
@Cyoulaterbud
@Cyoulaterbud Год назад
You might of finished it by now, but if you haven’t you are really wrong.
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
​@@Cyoulaterbud true
@lilyianneclouds6989
@lilyianneclouds6989 5 лет назад
You are amazing and I wish you weren't so underrated. This explanation is very good and even though I disagree I very much agree on some levels. I hope you have a good day Davis! You are also hilarious
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
Thanks man.
@lilyianneclouds6989
@lilyianneclouds6989 5 лет назад
@@TheInvisibleDavis No problem.
@mrdabrow
@mrdabrow 3 года назад
It's nice to see someone actually critisizing the game and not some "ThE gAmE iS GrEaT bUt ThE fAnDoM iS bAd" bullshit (altrough I find it funny that the fans somewhere between doing reddit posts and doing anthropomorphic porn of the game they spit with venom on everyone who doesn't like the game, despite the fact that the game is about being naively good, but it's known that the biggest fans of a game can hurt it the most). I also don't like the art, now I don't think that the graphics are the most important (my favorite game is postal 2 and it's fucking ugly), but the art feels inconsistant, there is some beautiful art (for example the thing before the papyrus fight), some "functional" art (for example most of ruins), and the purple rectangle who exit from ruins where the game tells me that a purple rectangle is a path. No, it's a purple rectangle. Mgs3 did the whole "don't kill your enimies" thing way shorter and better. After watching the video now I think that the story of undertale (and the one of deltarune) could be better if Toby had an additional writer, sort of like Kojima had Tomokazu Fukushima and later Shuyo Murata, to bring him down to earth, -and maybe not get killed by yakuza.-
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature 2 года назад
pssttt… that’s not what the game is about… Well, I mean, at least not inherently. It’s a common interpretation, sure, but there’s a lot of other stuff at the core of UNDERTALE that I feel often gets overlooked, by fans and critics alike. It’s become flanderized in popular media to just be this story about how “all violence is bad and you’re EVILLL for fighting in self defense” when that just.. wasn’t what the game was saying. An integral part of the story and its morals is the fact that you can reset with knowledge that you’ve gained after your first play through. It’s not designed to be 100% pacifistic and naive during your first run. The point is, after seeing where your choices brought you, you’re supposed to think to yourself, “What lead me here? What could I have done differently?” It’s about experimentation and curiosity. Both its “bad end” and its “good end” are fueled by a desire to try different things out, maybe listen to what Flowey has to say. Both when he’s advocating for pacifism and genocide.
@jettythesunfish
@jettythesunfish Год назад
@@funnylittlecreature That really doesn't sound any different from literally any other video game that gives you a choice.
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature Год назад
@@jettythesunfish exactly. doesn’t really make sense that undertale gets all the hate :P
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
The plot of the Undertail... Much... Much worse than you can imagine - even a 10-year-old child would have coped better.
@mrdabrow
@mrdabrow Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny Hold on, didn't you mean undertale?
@averyhicks12
@averyhicks12 5 лет назад
Loved the video! Although I don’t agree with every point made here, I can understand why people have those criticisms. Undertale’s soundtrack is 🔥 tho
@andreasjensen6617
@andreasjensen6617 2 года назад
True
@sonicspeedster2684
@sonicspeedster2684 Год назад
I absolutely agree
@DeoxysPrime300
@DeoxysPrime300 Год назад
The fans who over hype the game are toxic as hell.
@duckzilla7777
@duckzilla7777 Год назад
%50 of the fans say that its the best game ever, and its the only game they played other than minecraft and roblox lol
@davethebrave.
@davethebrave. Год назад
@@duckzilla7777 it is the best game ever and i have not just playd minecraft and roblox i also play clash royal.
@duckzilla7777
@duckzilla7777 Год назад
@@davethebrave. goddman you play 3 GAMES! you are a true gamer
@davethebrave.
@davethebrave. Год назад
@@duckzilla7777 thank
@RemoveThisTrashLetMeSeeNames
​@@duckzilla7777minecraft is actually good tho.
@owlwarrior2954
@owlwarrior2954 5 лет назад
It's great to hear from you again, I love your vids. Also, thank you for bringing this up, too many people over hype Undertale. I love Undertale, but the majority of the fandom is trash (Not trying to offend anyone, this is just from my experiences). It blindly praises Undertale and overly obsesses over the characters. I enjoy the story but find it difficult to talk about with others as many just want to say how perfect the game was instead of actually discussing what could have been better.
@Amritss664
@Amritss664 3 года назад
Its not even undertale being talked about anymore just fan games the original undertale isnt played at all kinda sad really..
@sta5011
@sta5011 3 года назад
@@Amritss664 Yep. It's mostly undertale AUs that are popular, mostly with sans, sans,sans etc nothing else
@MillywiggZ
@MillywiggZ 2 года назад
Why are the enemies attacking you? I don’t know Toby Fox why didn’t you “subvert” that too hahaa? Don’t know if I’m old but ‘Shin Megami Cave Story: Yume Niki Clean Asia (an EarthBound story)’ isn’t anything new to me really.
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
Shut up
@paradox7690
@paradox7690 5 лет назад
12:12 And this is why I did genocide. That thing is worse than the Undertale fandom. But to be fair, the music was pretty good. And just to explain a few points. Flowey is only scared and annoyed because of you, the player. This is shown as Flowey said he has numbed himself to all feeling and has become essentially a god that controls the fate of the universe with his overwhelming determination which he can use to manipulate timelines (as shown in the genocide route when he says "I've read every book, I've burned every book. I've become friends with everyone, I've killed everyone.") But when Flowey realizes he's at the mercy of someone else, he becomes enraged, cheated, and most of all, scared for once. Asgore doesn't absorb the souls as he doesn't want to end up like his son did. This is greatly implied at the end when Toriel calls him pathetic but you kinda have to read between the lines to see this. As for the random encounters versus the shopkeepers? I actually have no clue. It's even shown at the end that the regular monsters don't even know your a human because they're questioning why your not happy the final human is going to die in the pacifist/neutral run. Really weird. I might have an explanation for this. In the genocide run, you realize that some monsters become self aware while others don't. For example, some monsters don't try to escape and take none of your bullcrap. Notably, these characters are Gerson and Temmie. Temmie is just supposed to be there for kicks and giggles like the annoying dog and supposedly can delete the world at the press of a button so yeah I'm not gonna talk about that. But Gerson knows that he can't be attacked. On the genocide route, he knows everything is pointless and that he's just continuing to live because he's too scared to end his life himself or may just be too old or too lazy similarly to how Sans knows everything is pointless. But Gerson knows this for a different reason. Gerson fought in the Great War so he's supposedly 5000+ years old. The genocide battles are supposed to be annoying as you said to make the player give up. Sans only does what he does at the end because he doesn't want the player to fall victim to having their soul being stolen and the collapse of the entire timeline. When the entire timeline collapses, there's no going back and he is erased from existence. When you're erased from existence, even Sans and Flowey don't entirely remember you. The only one who does is Chara. Speaking of Chara, the one you name at the beginning of the game is Chara and there is a lot of evidence proving Chara is the narrator of the story knowing things you wouldn't know. So really, you're going through her story. (Yes I know Chara is technically genderless but in my own headcannon, I see Frisk as a male and Chara as a female. If this triggers you, I'm sorry.) The graphics are alright and as you said, the pixel thing is alright but largely overrated. And yeah, the True Lab isn't Alphys, but was a character named W.D. Gaster's as shown by characters in the game that appear at different FUN values. FUN values are essentially values that are within the games code that determine different events in the game depending on what happens at different times. Also yeah, if you don't spare Flowey, you don't get information that is critical to doing the Pacifist route or more notably the True Route. The reason why the monsters want to leave... well, you know that fiery demon monster looking guy in Snowdin? He explains it saying that everyone is going to die, we're all suffering from claustrophobia, and we have to resort to certain methods to ignore our crippling depression. It's pretty sad. This is clear throughout the characters as the characters LAUGH when they're killed. Toriel laughs when you kill her on a genocide route hysterically. Sans is constantly smiling despite having some SERIOUS issues. Jesus. No wonder Alphys is smiling when you kill her robot/best friend! The lore is really complicated and yeah... there is a lot of optional lore and when you look at all of it as a whole, it's pretty freaking brilliant. But yeah... it's all over the place and most of it is optional and even some of it is in the game files so yeah... But really I have one conclusion to refute all your arguments. You just fell down the hole and hit your head which causes hallucinations and then you somehow conjure all this bullcrap. Ahaha but seriously good video as it brings up some really valid points. Although I disagree with most of them.
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
It's alright to have an opinion. And I did know about most of the stuff you talked about, but I just didn't find it essential to talk about in something like this. Still though, happy you... might(?) have enjoyed the video. I'm still more surprised more people haven't called me names... yet.
@G1ggl3z-2
@G1ggl3z-2 5 лет назад
@@TheInvisibleDavis I won't let them call you names
@lord-vu2bt
@lord-vu2bt 3 года назад
Man have you deserve to earned a like
@Amritss664
@Amritss664 3 года назад
Jeez even if i didnt agree with ur opinion (i didnt even read the comment) you deserve a like for that whole essay.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
That is, about the desire to come to the surface says not a plot character, not the plot as a whole, not a merchant, not some minor characters, but some kind of pathetic cardboard? The plot deserves 3/10 and my hate
@itsthecomcom
@itsthecomcom 3 года назад
Flower can’t feel empathy and love he can feel emotions such as anger and fear
@Shmyakish2073
@Shmyakish2073 3 года назад
Then why did he been shocked of the fact he could feel fear?
@daktotathecolossus7404
@daktotathecolossus7404 2 года назад
@@Shmyakish2073 he hasnt felt it in a long time
@randomplayer469
@randomplayer469 Год назад
Flowey said he could feel *any* emotions based on the fact that he is soulless and of course there are plot holes into which flowey does show emotion but in the game it’s not specifically said that flowey cannot feel empathy
@loubaxo9339
@loubaxo9339 11 месяцев назад
​@@randomplayer469 it's literally the opposite of what you said
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 2 года назад
Toby is a very talented musician, and that's where my praise ends. I hate everything about this game from its "bro, so meta" commentary, its half baked, unoriginal story, and terrible character design I think most annoying of all is how it desperately wants Flowey to be some creepypasta tier Giygas. Except whereas Giygas worked because it was a slow build up to him in Earthbound, Flowey is an annoying troll trying too hard to be scary. It's so tryhard it makes me roll my eyes And worse than that is the whole "he wasn't ackshually a bad guy all along!" crap. Same with the monsters who sunset children for their own selfish gain. It's Toby thinks any morally reprehensible behavior can be excused by making the antagonists "misunderstood," or "sorry." That's not how your write complex narratives, it's lazy and self indulgent Overrated is too generous a term for this game
@incorporated6387
@incorporated6387 2 года назад
Wouldn't say unoriginal, as there are many types of games sharing the same concept, at that point everything is unoriginal. And the reason Flowey was trying to be 'Edgy' and 'Scary' is because of his past, he suffered so much, and you need to take into account that he IS a child, he is immature, and still doesn't know many things, and was meant to come off as tryhard and annoying. And the reason these monsters are attacking them, is because of how humans forcefully shunned them out of the surface and into the underground without warning, if I was one of the monsters I would attack the humans aswell since they were the source of all of the monsters suffering, it's up to Frisk to show them not all humans are bad, a big responsibility or not. And there are other routes, like Neutral and Genocide, that aren't all happy and merciful.
@tysontavares1450
@tysontavares1450 2 года назад
“internal screaming” (jk dude)
@maer_chen
@maer_chen 2 года назад
Wholeheartedly agree! There isn't much I'd personaly praise this game for. The story is cute, but not that original or even clever, especially the lazy moral lesson the game is trying to convey - just be merciful with everyone and they'll show their true (nice) colours. What a naïve take on life. Characters are funny, but get bland very fast, because they're nothing if not one-dimensional. Gameplay gets boring very fast. Graphic design is nostalgic, but aesthetically speaking it's only decent. I don't get the hype at all...
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature 2 года назад
I agree that Flowey is a bit eyeroll-y (though that could be explained by his childish nature, it’s still not fun to sit through), but I strongly disagree with your other points. The behavior was _never_ claimed to be excused. In fact, I’m pretty sure the game points out multiple times what Asriel did, and how it’s not inherent that he should be forgiven.
@susiiajwnendnsnsn
@susiiajwnendnsnsn 2 года назад
Main reason why I like Deltarune better, Undertale was basically like..a test thing for it. It's more interesting in my opinion, and the characters are mostly good.
@baklavalover2000
@baklavalover2000 3 месяца назад
I hate Undertale so much, genocide is the funniest way to play the game and it’s not even that fun. The only reason why it’s better is because of the 2 new bosses which actually forces to try to win, not really the undying one but definitely the sans one
@yoboibeerus1387
@yoboibeerus1387 3 года назад
Always interesting to hear other people's opinions! Mu opinion: I generally like this game. I think it is a good game (the music is the thing I most enjoyed). Though this review really did brought up some good points. Keep up you're good work! This is my first time here (RU-vid recommendation).
@tbana2396
@tbana2396 3 года назад
I personally really like Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door, but I also think that game and Super Paper Mario fall into this overhyping effect you described, especially on the latter.
@SavageJarJar
@SavageJarJar 11 месяцев назад
Color Splash was the best one. I know you are going to come looking for me. I am prepared.
@sarahchurnetski1280
@sarahchurnetski1280 9 месяцев назад
Don’t agree with all of these points but the sheer bravery needed in order to openly dislike Undertale deserves a like. Nice commentary, some very good takes
@RYGCBMKOW
@RYGCBMKOW 9 месяцев назад
Genocide:force me waste of time to go back and try to punish me for playing genocide in soulless pacifist and yet Chara is not get any consequence despite their action in soulless pacifist ending Pacifist:force me to befriend to the whole race who try to kill me for their own selfish gain to get this ending and yet the ending is just "friendship is magic,violence is never the answer" cliche
@memebaltan
@memebaltan 5 месяцев назад
@@RYGCBMKOW Ah yes, the blind hatred, the literal same as blind praise, just for another emotion...
@beanie4882
@beanie4882 3 года назад
2 years late but fuck it. This game always felt very…. Meh to me. I dont think any of the characters are fleshed out enough or interesting enough to have a proper effect and the story is very generic.
@aimlessequation5390
@aimlessequation5390 3 года назад
I would say it was a bit better than "meh", in my opinion, though even from an objective view, it was still better than you give it credit for. As someone who works in the game industry, I can see how much time, effort, and money was put into the creation of the game, and you can tell how much the people behind it really enjoyed making it. The story, yes, was quite mediocre, as well as several of the plot points/twists. Character-wise, only a select few stood out to me. The one I had the biggest issue with was Flowey, not because he was a prick, but the way he was fleshed out. As said in the video, I call bullshit on Flowey "not being able to feel emotions". The way he talks and how he goes about his business is also very stereotypical of a villainous character, so it just annoyed me. Couldn't stand it. Same can be said for a few others. The meta-narrative was well-executed and the overall feel, but it wasn't anything new. So I'm not sure how I feel about Undertale. I could poke at it all day or tell you how much I appreciate it.. but again, it just leaves me inconclusive. So, the best word I could use to describe my standpoint concerning the game.. would be ambivalent.
@beanie4882
@beanie4882 3 года назад
@@aimlessequation5390 i can kinda see your point but from a pure opinion based area the game just didnt make me feel anything playing it. It was by no means bad, it just wasnt very good either. What you said about seeing the devs passion for the game i agree with completely, infact that is one of the upsides imo. However passion doesnt = good and my previous (and slightly biased from bad experiences with undertale and its fandom) was looking at the game. Idk il never give the game more than a 4.5/5 out of 10. Nothing in it clicked with me. I guess it just didnt really live up fo my expectations from people hyping it up and from playing the mother series with peoplr saying “undertale is like that, u will love it”. O and i wanted to talk about flowey. The problem with flowey wasnt that he just had the wrong character type, he had no character (this is the same with multiple of the characters) and when characters who i found to have no character constantly were talking it just got very boring very quick. I can see why people like the game but i think ur stand of being ambivalent is prolly the best, it has alot of potential but it just wasted it in my eyes Im adding this after posting the comment but i forgot to say an upside to the game. The music. The music in this game is very good. Alot of these songs i have in playlists for bgm.
@aimlessequation5390
@aimlessequation5390 3 года назад
@@beanie4882 I completely agree with you. So, you're a fan of the Mother series, I assume? Same, which is why Undertale was kind of a letdown, but in other ways it was just as I expected.
@short207
@short207 4 месяца назад
@@aimlessequation5390 Objective....
@aimlessequation5390
@aimlessequation5390 3 месяца назад
@@short207 I always love receiving replies to comments I made multiple years ago so I can broil in dismay of where my mindset was at the time. That being said, I actually don't completely disagree with my take. Objectively, the amount of content that was able to be fleshed out in about a year-and-a-half of development with fluctuant funding is impressive, regardless of how we look back at its merit now.
@tuliptheanimatronicskunk1726
@tuliptheanimatronicskunk1726 5 лет назад
I kind of agree with what you said in the video, the game definitely wasn’t as great as everyone said it was a definitely had a lot of weird stuff and the annoying part with the person updating her status every 2 seconds and the ending really made me say “wtf did I just witness?” but it was fun to the people who played the game and enjoyed it so I guess that’s all that matters
@LogicDesert
@LogicDesert 3 месяца назад
Toriel:somehow not suspect on the player until be killed in genocide or neutral Sans:just boring,his reason to gave up is boring too because is just all about how powerful reset ability is Papyrus: annoying and cliche comic relief character Undyne:somehow forgot her own objective when player meet her again Alphys:suppose to be the relatable character yet not get consequences at all at the end of pacifist Asgore:same with Alphys in pacifist,in genocide he just being waste potential Flowey/Asriel:just a villain who being evil for edgy reason and at the end of pacifist he get his own consequences which is something great because other characters don't get their own consequences at the end of this route
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Месяц назад
Yea- good character from A to Z
@andarilho_31
@andarilho_31 Год назад
I agree wholeheartedly. Undertale is one of the most overrated video games ever made.
@BoredomIncarnate16
@BoredomIncarnate16 Год назад
Friday Night Funkin seems to be challenging Undertale for that title
@nwn-
@nwn- Год назад
Literally ignored this game until I decided to play it recently, pretty disappointed tbh, this game is so mid.... the ost is good I aint gonna lie but other than that, very meh
@WindowsDrawer
@WindowsDrawer Год назад
@@BoredomIncarnate16 Maybe the mods, is there even a week 9?
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Fnaf, Minecraft, FNF
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Yandere Simulator
@inciniumz4671
@inciniumz4671 2 года назад
I have a complaint myself: Undertale is NOT unique. It's made up of bits of and pieces, mechanics, characters and stuff taken from media and other games. I mean, the idea of a bullet hell game isn't unique, but also there's another game that the bullet box kinda came from, can't remember its' name but it had controversy with one of it's main, scantily clad characters. The characters are all archetypes and cliches. It has a lot of Tumblr humor in it. As for the sparing mechanic, the biggest mechanic, that's not oringial either. Shin Megani Tensei, (talking with enemies and gaining rewards through it) apparently inspired that along with MOON: Remix RPG Adventure(the game being completely pacifist in nature), but another game, Space Funeral, did a balance of violence and sparing with the Mystery mechanic allowing you to, by chance, spare enemies, ending the fight but gaining no EXP, being even in reward and consequence. Also, Deltarune does nothing to innovate, only making to experience shinier and more like a normal RPG while further incentivizing pacifism over any violence. Antother thing, yeah. For a game about choice, it hates when you do what it doesn't deem the "right" path. If Everhood can make a setting where killing is the morally right thing to do, then surely Undertale could've given some situations where killing would be reasonable? Because many monsters outright want to kill you. Usually paid to do so. Is acting in self defense against those trying to harm you, especially in a war, wrong? According to Toby, yes, since the whole message in Deltarune Chapter 1, sometimes you need to fight people, is lost in Chapter 2.
@TheSuperGoober
@TheSuperGoober 10 месяцев назад
By that logic, nothing is unique. It takes elements from other things, but so does litteraly every piece of media ever. I think when people say "Undertale is unique" they're mostly referring to the meta-narrative of it and how it goes about doing it
@Fritz9672
@Fritz9672 9 месяцев назад
I'm sorry this is a stupid take, it's like you're actively trying to nitpick every little single thing while also forgetting that people can have the same ideas. And "For a game about choice, it hates when you do what it doesn't deem the "right" path" what does this even mean? what do you want the game to do? Congratulate you for killing everyone? I'm not going to lie you just sound like a hater bro
@portal_hopper1568
@portal_hopper1568 4 года назад
I think the fandom is big mainly because of the AUs
@wanderer3600
@wanderer3600 5 лет назад
what is better:to watch Davis reviewing Undertale or learn about the tomorow chemestry quiz???i chose first option!
@zentoraim
@zentoraim Год назад
first option
@JoseViktor4099
@JoseViktor4099 4 месяца назад
Yeah I dont like Undertale that much neither. When I was 13 I aways though that old people wouldn't like this game for always not knowing happyness. Ironic that now I dont like it anymore 8 years later? I think the message is contraproducent as best, and extremely stupid while dangerous at worst. Sparing anyone regardless of their intentions and not defeding yourself is something *anyone* should do, for the sake of god. And then you can still get the best finale even if you took the most d!ckhead options against characters just because you spared everyone... "The game where your decisions matters gentlemen and ladies" Adding other things that characters are only made to be relatable but really lacks depth and development where they question what they are doing with no consequences on their acts -Alphys- And that the gameplay, while interesting, could be far better that only clicking the same option against bosses. On the bright side, I feel that Deltarune fixes most of these issues, and even when they are things that im not that convinced with, I feel that is objectively superior than it predecesor on almost all aspects.
@coolflowerfacts
@coolflowerfacts 3 месяца назад
ong i think undertale is mid but deltarune is one of my favourite games
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 3 месяца назад
Deltarune still enough
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Why does such a bad plot and characters have so many fans?
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
E
@TadGomer
@TadGomer 8 месяцев назад
Because it doesn’t have a bad plot, and the "plot holes" this guy brings up aren’t even plot holes
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 8 месяцев назад
@@TadGomer its really bad game anyway
@TadGomer
@TadGomer 8 месяцев назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny why? I’m actually curious
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 8 месяцев назад
​@@RYGCBMKOWAzriel got his punishment - he became a flower again, but kinder after being a god
@spicymilk1683
@spicymilk1683 5 лет назад
It’s been so long man,this made my day Keep it up!
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
Hard to keep a schedule when you're going to collage, but I hope my videos quality can make up for it.
@Im-BAD-at-satire
@Im-BAD-at-satire Год назад
I know I've been blinded by my emotions so I thought to give a video like this a fair view, as much I found enjoyment of this game I have to agree that I noticed flaws I just couldn't clearly see what those flaws where, I can see why people oftentimes seek information from the opposing sides of their viewpoints in everyday life. This was very informative. I still enjoy this game but I have to understand it's flaws if I wish to truly appreciate it for what it is. And though I think that you took some subjective parts as objective I still understand why others wouldn't enjoy these aspects but for the majority of the video it's been extremely objective. I praised the music majority of the time so I never focused on the story, and I agree that many potholes are there, and things not getting explained well enough; like for example, why do the non-boss fight monsters fight you? There's most definitely a libraries in the universe, they could've perhaps added in books found from the human world back during the war. Plus with a big hole in the mountain, Toby could've implied it to be an unauthorized trash dump that some corporate entity or entities commonly used in that area; I don't know, I'm simply brainstorming here. At least in Deltarune there's been so far many story improvements as shown by the 2 chapters thus far, at least by my observation. Though for a small team they did well, not excellent, the part that was excellent was the music: I feel like this could add in a new saying, you know how bands have the running joke about the drummer being bad at handling the finances? Well, similarly, the musician might not always be best as the writing, unless they're instead a jack of all trades. In short, what I loved most was the music. This wasn't the first game I played where morality was an element in storytelling or mechanics, though Undertale did a better job at the nuances of morality then say a game like Fable 2 and the subsequent series onwards, regardless it could've had more added more to it. I've thought about the Fable 2's good, evil, pure and corrupt meter and then compared Undertale's approach. In Fable you can quiet literally rack up so much cash and even exploit the mechanics to have wealth beyond measures then buy every house and store you can get your greedy hands on of every providence, set the rent percentages to 100 and the same for business sale, become corrupt and evil, then, if you want to be good again just by giving a homeless man 999,999,999,999 amount of cash and immediately your 100 good though it barely changes the corruption meter and not only that the ending of Fable 2 has no weight on your morality in the first place. In that game, you are given 3 choices; the good, the neutral and the evil. You pick good whilst still evil and corrupt, you're still an evil bastard but an evil bastard with a heart or instead you just love tormenting living people some more and thought having them dead would ruin your sadistic urges. As much this is a hilarious thought to me, It's little traps like this that Undertale doesn't really fall in to.
@Im-BAD-at-satire
@Im-BAD-at-satire Год назад
My basic thought, Undertale is Toby Fox's learning experience. Mobile version of RU-vid has an edit comment function but for some odd reason they didn't give this feature for the mobile web browser. Kindle devices can't use certain Google features like Google play.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
My opinion is that the worst thing in the game is the story and all its details.
@ballisticbiscuit5706
@ballisticbiscuit5706 Год назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomny I disagree. I think Undertale has a very interesting world and characters, and the influence you have over it is great
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
@@ballisticbiscuit5706 why?
@ballisticbiscuit5706
@ballisticbiscuit5706 Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny first off, the concept overall was already interesting to me. Humans and monsters in an unknown time period where monsters lost a war and were sealed underground. It seems simple, but the depth of the rest of the game just makes the premise even more interesting in retrospect. We never get to meet any other humans besides chara; we know there likely exists human wizards, and that humans are generally stronger than monsters. We also learn about the power of DETERMINATION, and also how a monster which absorbs a human soul gains godlike power. I found this setup very interesting. But, moving on from that, Undertale is immersive - more immersive than any other RPG I've played. Everything about the gameplay is a part of the canon: Saving and loading is canon, your level and exp have in-lore explanations, and characters and their reactions are realistic. Frisk in the underground, with the power of saving and loading, is the most powerful creature in existence at that moment, so everything is now up to you. You're placed in this world that feels like it's been around long before you arrived with the power to decide its entire fate. You might decide to destroy everything they've built, simply because you want to see what will happen - a detail sans will point out in his fight monolog. I love how dislogue will change on new playthroughs if you decided to change one thing - such as killing tutorial, being remorseful, then reloading your save point to spare her. She'll say something like "You look as if you've seen a ghost!" If you do a full reset before meeting her again, she'll mention that somehow, she vaguely feels like you've met before. After sparing her this time, flowey, who knows about and used to hold the control over the timeline, will taunt you about it. These are just a few small examples. Next, I love the atmosphere and overall feeling (the amazing ost helps to accomplish this) that I got when first playing the game. Each individual section of the game is iconic to me. Also, to add onto what I said earlier about the small changes, there are many more small things that can happen that most people don't know about. For example, if you do a genocide and CHARA takes your soul, then you reset the world and do a true pacifist, then in the after-credits scene with Frisk in bed in the overworld, you'll open your eyes for the first time to reveal Chara's eyes. This is a very open ended ending, so like much of undertale, it leaves you to wonder. I love the constant subversion of expectations in the story - I played undertale COMPLETELY blind, a privilege that is actually painful to think most people didn't get. Tons of people went into the game after having it hyped up everywhere, and already decided they weren't going to like it before they played it. They got major reveals and events spoiled, so everything overall held much less importance. Sans is still my favorite character. The comic relief character, with only a few hints that he's more than he seems in pacific, being the hardest boss in Undertale was so cool. I love his vague background, understanding of the world hes in and its mechanics, and usage of his knowledge. He can infer when youve reset or came back to your save point, and he'll use that to taunt you during the fight. He alone is the sole character that does not let you attack him and instead dodges. He starts making more and more bones appear on the menu GUI where your soul is so that even navigating through the menu is challenging while fighting him. He even tries to beat you by doing literally nothing so that his turn lasts forever, and you never get the chance to kill him and destroy the rest of the world. The execution of the big momemts like this in Undertale were just so amazing to me. Overall, by the time I finished Undertale, I was left wanting more. I had gotten fully immersed in this world and enjoyed every second of it and now it was over, a reaction I assume most people had at the time due to the absolute insane amount of fan creations that then came forth. We all collectively wanted more Undertale. I feel genuinely lucky that I experienced the game how I did and wasn't looking at it from some weird angle going into it
@punklover99
@punklover99 7 месяцев назад
Definitely a meh game, just people something is "deep"
@karma_coin
@karma_coin 11 месяцев назад
you know, I played through Undertale. I kinda got spoiled early on, ended up doing the pacifist run first. Never went back to it. Somebody asked me if I was going to do the other runs. I said, why? I got the best ending already. Everybody lives, are free and happy. Why would ruin that? They said because it's "more content". As a superfan of RPGs since elementary school, I thought UT was fine. Not the masterpiece everybody else said it is. For a long time I couldn't express why, but this video really hits a lot of those reasons. Thank you.
@danielhughes1711
@danielhughes1711 4 года назад
16:50 you now what makes the boss harder when you have epilepsy
@sergeantskullard1590
@sergeantskullard1590 2 месяца назад
My problem with undertale is its only interesting part is the combat and the life span of the game its been alive for way to long when the only fun parts are when you're trying your best to dodge attacks and then once you're done its just boring its more of a walking sim and one last thing the idea of au's are stupid
@nickk3077
@nickk3077 3 года назад
Are you telling me that this game with poor RPG mechanics, long and empty hallways, and forced scripted sequences isn’t perfect?! Nonsense!
@davidruth1902
@davidruth1902 3 года назад
Well some undertale fans thinks the game is perfect...and I'm not afraid to say they are wrong.
@blackthornthetechno-prophe3697
@blackthornthetechno-prophe3697 2 года назад
The hallways are the most boring part of the game. They ruin the replay value of the game.
@fishingrod2253
@fishingrod2253 2 года назад
preposterous!
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Fans of Fnaf and Undertale also call the plots of their games a masterpiece ... Well- you need to hit them against the harsh reality.
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomny Shut up
@RestoredTrash
@RestoredTrash 5 лет назад
I agree 100% and its great to hear from u again!
@CasuallyOvercomplicated
@CasuallyOvercomplicated 3 года назад
Yeah, I agree with you. I like the game, but it's nowhere near as good as people led me to believe. Its story is good, I would say really good, but it's definitely not the greatest RPG ever nor has the greatest video game story ever. Also, the gameplay is very shallow. No side quests, you only have defense and attack stats and no parter members.
@triiodide7762
@triiodide7762 3 года назад
I fucking hate side quests so I'm kinda glad there aren't any. I really disagree with this video and I think this game is amazing, but I can respect the opinion.
@CasuallyOvercomplicated
@CasuallyOvercomplicated 2 года назад
@mahoushoujo I have. It's really good. However, what it makes up for in gameplay it lacks in story. The story this time is 7/10, still good but not nearly as amazing as Undertale's. It's unfortunate that Deltarune doesn't have the "how many monsters you kill changes the story" mechanic, that Undertale did.
@duckman9327
@duckman9327 2 года назад
@mahoushoujo Same, I just like Deltarune more
@xeviusUsagi
@xeviusUsagi 2 года назад
Personally I used to love undertale. but now I just can't enjoy it anymore. the best part for me was definetly the characters, music and community made comics but now I just can't bring my self to enjoy it, and I can't even avoid it, some way or another I'll find a sans reference some music or just anything undertale related. I have played the game, and the fighting is definetely more interesting then normal RPG but the marcy aspect seems too overhyped
@dyrokudobane
@dyrokudobane 3 года назад
Just wanted to put out that it isn't a masterpiece, although it is good for the current price of $10 as of writing in 2021 ( it probably went down as I recall paying more for it when it first came out). The sprites aren't that frequently animated except for battle sprites (which would fine if there weren't different interactions), but the game progresses slower than I'd want, and most of the enemies are uninteresting and random in part because of there being Kickstarter entries (wth is an airplane doing near active lava and how is it a sentient monster for one), but the music is overall good and the combat at least keeps you on your toes in spite of being repetitive. Overall, it was a huge success albeit possibly overrated by its fanbase.
@mounada4098
@mounada4098 2 года назад
It was 10$ in 2016 i think.. i'm not sure if it was the same in 2015
@dyrokudobane
@dyrokudobane 2 года назад
@@mounada4098 Looking at my Steam purchase history, it cost me $17.99 in 2015 for both the game and the soundtrack which is also exactly the current pricing - probably why I thought it was more expensive at some point. Likely, there were and will be some sales for it with the game and music costing $9.99 seperately. Also, I don't regret getting the music - at least that much. I'm frugal, but I still play some of the classic Undertale music every now and then.
@Cyoulaterbud
@Cyoulaterbud Год назад
@@dyrokudobaneIf you go into the undertale files, you can access the music for free. Or just look up on RU-vid. But you are right.
@swyrm616
@swyrm616 2 года назад
Change it from Morbid Musings to Morbius Mongus or else
@bird5109
@bird5109 2 года назад
This comment is the only valid reason to view newest first comments
@warmice4136
@warmice4136 2 года назад
I personally loved undertake but imma be honest it’s refreshing af to have someone who dislikes it for valid reasons and not just cause it’s possible
@declanbernard1369
@declanbernard1369 5 лет назад
I 100% agree the story was a bit messed up and personally I liked everything else
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
A bit?
@muffetmissulena6540
@muffetmissulena6540 10 месяцев назад
This doesn’t make any sense…
@jammybot2529
@jammybot2529 Год назад
Hollow knight is better
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Of course!
@SavageJarJar
@SavageJarJar 11 месяцев назад
Yo fax
@coolflowerfacts
@coolflowerfacts 3 месяца назад
I definitely like that game better but it isnt even a good comparison. They are 2 completely different genres.
@markstinton7415
@markstinton7415 5 лет назад
Loved this video- made a lot of great points :)
@spillywater_
@spillywater_ 3 года назад
i’m embarassed to be an undertale fan in 2021
@spillywater_
@spillywater_ 3 года назад
@Mark Hammer Yh
@mounada4098
@mounada4098 2 года назад
Why?
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Good choice!
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomny E
@MusuemBucket
@MusuemBucket 6 месяцев назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny ngl Undertale isn’t the biggest cup of tea, but you don’t need to be like this
@jackshitanimations706
@jackshitanimations706 5 лет назад
FINALLY YOU MADE A NOTHER VIDEO!!!!!!😄😄😄
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
I know, it was over two months since my last video.
@محمدصفاء-س2م
@محمدصفاء-س2م Месяц назад
you can have opinions and thinks it's bad here's just a few things you got wrong (Note: I may be wrong too everyone makes mistakes) 6:44 he can feel emotions but he can't feel love or compassion and [something that I don't remember] 14:57 this is wrong he does care and he gets mad if your lv is high enough he just won't fight because he knows he can't win he only fights in genocide because he doesn't have any other choice the world would be destroyed if he didn't after all 20:13 same as the first one 20:52 that's the point it's hard and unfair 21:46 asgore is a coward he just can't bring himself to do this he doesn't want to he's too scared to do it 23:38 he wanted to become a robot since ghosts want physical bodys for a reason i can not remember because i haven't played it in so long i really need to play it again 23:44 no they can't 24:03 he doesn't abandon that body because he can't he's fused with it 27:16 I kinda agree this is wayyy too easy 27:51 to not comfort asriel is a crime in the undertale community 28:27 I think he already knew that he just didn't want to 28:57 two things chara is they/them not a male and they didn't 29:05 did you just say killed humans and monsters well technically they did kill the humans by erasing the world but i don't know what you mean by monsters ? They didn't kill any monsters
@smithskull999shenanigans7
@smithskull999shenanigans7 2 года назад
I ain’t here to argue I’m here to watch gameplay
@gamer_thinks
@gamer_thinks Месяц назад
I think the Game is good. It's the community is what needs to be looked at.
@SafiyyaSaffiya211
@SafiyyaSaffiya211 13 дней назад
The fandom were only popular because of the aus
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Maybe it's a joke, but then why does Papyrus have so many fans? This is a really bad character
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
Shut up
@Turmoil-TheKoopaKiller
@Turmoil-TheKoopaKiller 2 месяца назад
​@@jeovanaoliveira8251Very mature of you.
@THEGREATPAPYRUS9_5
@THEGREATPAPYRUS9_5 2 года назад
The reason Chara is your name is because you don't actually name frisk your name. When they say "Name the fallen human," they mean Chara. Anyways good! Your criticism is very well constructed unlike most people when it comes to undertale
@slimer44producciones3
@slimer44producciones3 4 года назад
So... Going out of topic, what do you think about Mother (or Earthbound beginigns in america)
@linguine4500
@linguine4500 3 года назад
Mother 3 actually tells a story, materialism, grief, happiness, etc. While undertale is just "don't kill lmao, but spare every murder" As for gameplay wise it is still extremely basic and gets bland. In my opinion, of course
@Fritz9672
@Fritz9672 9 месяцев назад
@@linguine4500 It is your opinion and I respect it, however I don't understand what you mean by "While undertale is just "don't kill lmao, but spare every murder"" you do know you don't have to spare everyone right? the game has multiple routes for this very reason. Most people will get the neutral route on their first time playing, you're acting like the game forces you to spare them.
@Rodrius.
@Rodrius. 5 месяцев назад
@@linguine4500this is the worst Interpretation i have Never seen of the game
@WeaselWeaselW
@WeaselWeaselW 3 года назад
DO DELTARUNE
@professormeme6584
@professormeme6584 Год назад
This game is great. But dear lord is it overrated. People treat it like the second coming of christ
@duckzilla7777
@duckzilla7777 Год назад
bro I know game is nice and also supporting a indie developer is nice but wtf 5 year old kid saying "bro this is the best game" and its second game he played first one is roblox like wtf
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Its okay... Not good
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomny E
@blood-reaper
@blood-reaper Год назад
​@@jeovanaoliveira8251A
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Это прекрасный обзор... Но я хочу обзор который полностью критикует историю, которая очень плохая
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
E
@floppaflopofficial2085
@floppaflopofficial2085 Год назад
Undertale is kinda boring But people kiss toby fox's ass anyway
@ezeahrizcalupas6280
@ezeahrizcalupas6280 Год назад
True.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Год назад
He is a liberal cuck
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
They don't just kiss... They call his characters a masterpiece, and the plot is brilliant.
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomny Shut up
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
@floppaflopofficial2085 true
@Amritss664
@Amritss664 3 года назад
I liked undertale when it was new sadly toby fox never made a sequel which is pretty strange because popular games like undertale have fans and if the fans wanted a sequel then toby fox should've made one I get among us didnt but that game didnt need a sequel because among us isnt a story game if toby fox just made another sequel for undertale he would have like IOOOOOOOOOOOOOx more fans
@Melecie
@Melecie 3 года назад
i don't think every story game has to have a sequel, for example i'd love a sequel or even just a remastered version of katawa shoujo, but the game ties up most of its loose ends nicely and sequel wouldn't really make sense, plus also 4 leaf studios is already dead
@Amritss664
@Amritss664 3 года назад
@@Melecie but undertale will just die out without anything new
@Amritss664
@Amritss664 3 года назад
@@Melecie all it will be is iconic I respect ur opinion tho :D
@Melecie
@Melecie 3 года назад
@@Amritss664 i think even though undertale is flawed, it's good the way it is and a sequel wouldn't really make sense especially because the meta concepts it is known for won't really work a second time. that is a valid concern though, that there will be no more to a game
@Amritss664
@Amritss664 3 года назад
@@Melecie thanks.
@redeyber
@redeyber Год назад
I think the face story of undertale sucks, the story inbetween the lines is great
@redeyber
@redeyber Год назад
Anyways, flowey can feel emotion just not positive emotion The trash in the waterfall dump is from the surface, which is how alyphs has anime. We know this from papyrus’s flag and how alphys says she regularly likes to go to the dump to find things He knows your name from the other monsters that you have met, youve encountered pretty much the entire royal guard
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
I think the plot in the game is completely terrible, but your comment puzzled me. "The plot is bad on the outside, but good on the inside" what does this mean? You mean the story in the game and the lore inside the game
@Cyoulaterbud
@Cyoulaterbud Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomnywhats wrong with the plot
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
@@Cyoulaterbud Characters , world, story, humor, meta comment, message and logic
@TOXICYT2016
@TOXICYT2016 2 года назад
I got the collector's edition and played the 1st 10 mins and I was bored of it
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
E
@SavageJarJar
@SavageJarJar 11 месяцев назад
W
@sillykicker64
@sillykicker64 2 года назад
This was a really well formulated video. While I disagree with some of the opinions, I must say this video felt like a really nice expression of your feelings relating to the game. I just have a few points I'd like to touch on: First of all, I feel the title gives the video a bad image, as it simply states the game as something that needs to be put down, stating that it isn't good and that that's a fact when the reality is, it's an opinion and all this title does is provoke people into clicking your video with a negative impression, specially when the title is blatantly false as the points being made are opinions and not facts. There were some parts where plot holes were pointed out like "random monsters attacking you" though I feel like that's something common to most RPG games, and even many games under other genres. I think the plot holes subtract very little to the game, specially as many of the ones pointed can be disproven (in the case of the monsters, my interpretation was that the attackers are part of the army). A lot of the hype around the game came from how it revolutionized morality and accountability in videogames, something rarely done so effectively before. Nowadays there are definetely more examples, but at the time this was much more impressive. I felt this point could've been touched on a little more. You mentioned refighting enemies being the same, which I found odd to say the least. Almost every RPG I've played has had at least one refight and it was often all the more satisfying to fight an enemy you've beaten now that you're stronger and have a better strategy. Plus, repeat scenarios are rare outside of genocide runs because of enemy combinations drastically changing attack patterns. I've beaten the game many times, though the amount of times these repeats happened were very few. Of course, this is very subjective, but saying the game is just not good because you don't like these aspects is extremely fallacious. I also feel like you didn't really touch on the dodging system, which is often the most appreciated aspect of the combat as it makes the player feel a lot less powerless and adds a taller skill ceiling. It also makes moments like Flowey and Sans' battles so much scarier by taking away your control at times, and forcing you to take damage. I agree with some points on aesthetics, though we're talking about a game made by a very small team under a bellow-average budget on fairly simple software. Not to mention it was made four years before this video, meaning it's obviously been subjected to the test of time. I think the point that struck me the most though was the criticism on the game's humor, implying that it invalidates the seriousness of the story being told when if anything, the contrast between the bright humor and the darker overarching story merely amplifies the harder-hitting plotpoints. Like I said though, this all boils down to opinion, and you stating it has a negative effect is not a factual claim in the way it is presented in the video. I'd also reccommend you looking into media analysis courses and maybe video essays on the story, as the synopsis doesn't take into account the commentary on human violence and discrimination, and how easy it ought to be to solve. It also ignores some of the deeper story by calling characters like Sans a comic relief character, when the whole point of him is to represent someone who uses humor to cope with intense trauma, something that's detailed in the game's plottwists. On the topic of Sans, the battle was treated very superfitially. The entire point is that the character is self-aware about being in a time loop and the battle is supposed to be unfair as that's the only ways he sees to make you quit messing up the timeline. I wouldn't blame the average player for missing this, but if you're gonna make a 30 minute video saying the game isn't good, some superfitial research on the story would've been pretty good. Another point on Asriel and Sans' fights as that their difficulties are supposed to reflect their respective routes. Asriel is intentionally easy because it's a representation of how much easier it is to follow a peaceful inclusive route, while Sans' difficulties is the antithesis of this, showcasing how much harder life is when humans engage in discriminatory conflict, and reflecting how many deaths that can lead to. I'm fully accepting of criticism, and there were some fair points in this video like how underdeveloped some characters are (like Muffet) and some of the more annoying story beats. At the end of the day, it's a game. Some people enjoy it while others don't. I just think it's weird to make an opinion video and frame it as a fact while ignoring some of the most important things in the game. I also wanna mention this video was really well edited. While the speech could've been more energetic, the audio sounds really well and the clips are put together very well, specially in the montages. Btw Chara is they/them
@Okayed1154
@Okayed1154 2 года назад
He didn’t do this for views
@MusuemBucket
@MusuemBucket 6 месяцев назад
@@sillykicker64bro didn’t even watch the video 💀
@sussygalaxy9831
@sussygalaxy9831 Год назад
the have a small military and police because the underground is small so they dont need it to be big
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
3 monsters ☠️
@TadGomer
@TadGomer 8 месяцев назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny6 + probably more
@stormzo6235
@stormzo6235 2 года назад
Witcher 3 and Skyrim is in the same boat. Overhyped, boring, hardly anything good ab it.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
?
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Спасибо всем кто критикует эту игру.... Особенно сюжет
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
E
@dumpling3198
@dumpling3198 3 года назад
I’m dead! 15/10
@draco6349
@draco6349 3 года назад
I understand your points for most of this, but I have some issues. First: Flowey. He's not meant to actually be emotionless, he just doesn't feel love. Second, things like saying "Sans isn't funny" are matters of subjective opinion that you presented as objective fact. Third: A lot of the stuff that isn't explained can just be inferred from the circumstances. Most of it isn't that hard to figure out, but most of it also doesn't really need to be figured out. Also, the fight with Asriel is so easy because he's a kid. He's more focused on looking as cool as possible (and channeling his inner DeviantArt OC) than using actual strong attacks. AND FOR GOODNESS' SAKE, CHARA DIDN'T KILL THE MONSTERS. YOU DID. Sorry for the rant, but this video really just comes off as "Undertale is bad and you should be ashamed to like it because of all these tiny little issues and also my opinion."
@JackNormalMemes
@JackNormalMemes 3 года назад
This sort of response is why people don't like the fandom.
@draco6349
@draco6349 3 года назад
@@JackNormalMemes Yeah, I know. But my dumb a** just can't help but watch these videos when they pop up in my feed XD
@Shmyakish2073
@Shmyakish2073 3 года назад
If he, Flowey, not meant to be emotionless, why did he being shocked of the fact he could feel fear? If he just doesn't feel love, then how can he miss Papyrus?
@draco6349
@draco6349 3 года назад
@@Shmyakish2073 For the first question, he's used to being able to get out of any situation by resetting, so he would normally have no reason to be afraid of anything. He's surprised when he is afraid because he hasn't felt fear in so long. For the second question, I don't know what you're referring to exactly, but what I do know is that Papyrus was like a plaything to flowey. He would miss his absence for lack of entertainment.
@Shmyakish2073
@Shmyakish2073 3 года назад
@@draco6349 OK, thanks! «I don't know what you are referring to exactly», well, after reaching to the end of the game (in Neutral ending), Flowey will show up and start a conversation with us! When he will start talking about Papyrus, he will say he kinda misses him!
@hushygamer2544
@hushygamer2544 2 года назад
The main problem with undertale is that the depth of the characters feels inconsistent
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
The characters have no depth... They are absolutely flat and memorable
@moonzie37
@moonzie37 Год назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomnyyou mean unmemorable? I agree. Delatrune does it much better
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
I wouldn't say that the situation with the characters is better in Deltarun, but there are fewer infuriating characters there, they have an excuse for this and in general there is no Papyrus.
@moonzie37
@moonzie37 Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny Idk about you but I hate how Susie x Noelle is forced down out throats, and also how your choices don't matter, even when you do Snowgrave. Basically, it all comes down to the same ending. That's why I never bothered to defeat Jevil or do the genocide route. Why work so hard for the same ending? At least I WANTED to kill Sans because it mattered
@moonzie37
@moonzie37 Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny like, I get that he wanted something different, but I don't think it works, tbh
@optimal8307
@optimal8307 4 года назад
You know I love undertale, and it’s one of my all-time favorite games, but it does not deserve the title of “best game ever” when there’s shit like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Super Metroid and Halo 3 and Half-Life 2 like come on
@beanie4882
@beanie4882 3 года назад
…..and oot
@tobstobs950
@tobstobs950 3 года назад
...that were all created by a huge group of experienced people. Undertale was literally made by two people. Considering that, it is indeed the best game to be ever made.
@andarilho_31
@andarilho_31 2 года назад
@@tobstobs950 AM2R was made by one dude and it's way better than Undertale.
@RemoveThisTrashLetMeSeeNames
​@@tobstobs950no. This does not work like that.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Я хотел бы создать свою игру с хорошим сюжетом,но я понял что я только хорошо сценарии умею писать
@blood-reaper
@blood-reaper 11 месяцев назад
Yeah without LGBT this time
@mossylog4168
@mossylog4168 4 года назад
Great review it kinda got nitpicky at times but other than that it was good
@tali6144
@tali6144 Год назад
10000% this game sucks
@davethebrave.
@davethebrave. Год назад
your th only thing that suck
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Год назад
@@davethebrave. liberal underale fan
@hellother52
@hellother52 Год назад
​@@clonetrooper2003you can't even say the game name right 😂
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 Год назад
@@hellother52 its this stupid keyboard
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
​@@clonetrooper2003 Shut up lmao
@octobermeep1439
@octobermeep1439 5 лет назад
soooooo are you going to take another 2 months to up lode? cuz i just want to know not to be rued or anything.
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
That's not the plan. I have a lot of things on my very small plate and hope that the next video comes out in about two weeks or so.
@octobermeep1439
@octobermeep1439 5 лет назад
@@TheInvisibleDavis wow cool and thanks for making videos you always make me smile when i'm down.
@BonBon-md7oe
@BonBon-md7oe 5 лет назад
Play FNAF UCN next....pls ;^;
@TheInvisibleDavis
@TheInvisibleDavis 5 лет назад
Not a FNAF person, sorry man.
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 Год назад
Also a thing that nobody ever brings out with the whole human thing is that Toriel is also a boss monster, and if she really wanted to SHE could do what she told Asgore. Take one of the human souls peacefully acquire 6 more from already dead humans and bring the monsters peacefully to the surface. Also the reason why medicine can't leave its body is that under certain circumstances a ghost can permanently fuse to an object it's why you're able to kill the mad dummy in the genocide route but can't in the neutral or pacifist. Though if she were trying to actually kill frisk Alphys's best bet is to stick with the base metal body of Metaton that Frisk can't hurt.
@avetthekiller3080
@avetthekiller3080 2 года назад
i respect your opinion
@Ivebeenpraticing
@Ivebeenpraticing 2 года назад
YAS KAREN UNDERTALE SUCKS DEVBFETHR32W2SDECVF E2R F̶̯̦̠̮̟͔̋̑͆̏Ư̷̼̠͕̗̥̰͓͈̑̾̃̏́͛̀̈̆͘N̴̛̗̤̳̙͕͙̖̠̠͍̈́̑͋́̇͒̀ Value not Dickssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss COVER THE FFFFFFF BECAUSE I FORCED IT TO SING AHAHSHAHAHSXSHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐❄❄💣
@WindowsDrawer
@WindowsDrawer Год назад
I just like the songs, the game is .. ok but overrated
@aaronatkinson177
@aaronatkinson177 3 месяца назад
I enjoyed undertale for what it was a good game but definitely not a masterpiece 😅
@TadGomer
@TadGomer 8 месяцев назад
Kinda sucks that the problems you had with the plot were plot holes that don’t exist and were explained in the game in some way
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 8 месяцев назад
Where its explained?
@TadGomer
@TadGomer 8 месяцев назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny Aight here are the plot holes he mentioned that aren’t actually plot holes. Flowey can feel emotions, just not compassion. It’s explained in the library that souls are were you feel compassion and love etc, but since Asriel lost his soul and became a Flower because of Alphys, he lost the ability to feel love for other people. Flowey can feel fear, it’s just that with the power of determination, he can’t die so has forgotten what fears feels like. So when you have more determination than him and he can’t save anymore, he genuinely feels fear again. Another thing is that you name the original fallen human in the beginning of the game, not the human you are playing as, Frisk. Sans only cares about you killing monsters when you kill everyone because he fears you destroying the world, something that only happens if you reach lv 20, so if you don’t kill one monster, you can’t reach lv 20 and erase the world. Sans says "but seeing what comes next, I can’t afford not to care anymore" that is him talking about you destroying the world. Alphys gets her anime from the trash dump, which is trash from the human world that ends up in the underground. And most monsters don’t know what a humans looks like because they were born when they were already in the underground. And I’m guessing some monsters attack you because they realized that you are human and will try to kill you, but some don’t and think you are a monster
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 8 месяцев назад
It's not even half of the video
@radio_0021
@radio_0021 8 месяцев назад
​@@yalovoyhznepomnysmall question: are you fine? it seems like you're prominent in every single video that criticizes undertale, just to be stirring up shit in the comment section consistently. do you need a break perhaps?
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 8 месяцев назад
@@radio_0021 You're dodging my question. Your claims to the video are good, no, but these are not all the claims that are in the video
@Corruptedhope
@Corruptedhope 10 месяцев назад
Haha every undertale fans go brrr (no offense your opinion is fair and actually have a point, unlike those haters who hate for no reason)
@tallet7892
@tallet7892 3 года назад
Somehow humans are much stronger than monsters and yet monsters are seemingly thousands of times harder to kill than humans and can use magical attacks
@samot4100
@samot4100 3 года назад
Monsters are definitely not harder to kill. It's just the human we play as in the game is a child. The humans won the war (if you could even call it that) by a landslide and had little to no casualties. Also some humans are wizards.
@tallet7892
@tallet7892 3 года назад
@@samot4100 i think a child would be able to kill anything in one hit very easily
@tallet7892
@tallet7892 3 года назад
Especially a monster which is supposedly much weaker than it
@samot4100
@samot4100 3 года назад
@@tallet7892 Humans all together are much stronger then monsters but frisk is a human child. It's like making a lion cub and a grown man fight. Of course if the lion was a adult it would be insta death for the human, but because the lion is a baby the human, has a chance even though the lion cub could still hurt or kill the human if given the chance.
@tallet7892
@tallet7892 3 года назад
@@samot4100 no I’m pretty sure that humans are stronger than monsters on an individual scale too, cause it says frisk is stronger than all the monsters in the underground
@etwright4279
@etwright4279 4 месяца назад
Undrtale is a good game not a fan game i saw jacksepticeye play undrtale he loves undrtale even i love undrtale you have to spear every monster 2:04
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 4 месяца назад
Did you play the game?
@Solbashio
@Solbashio 3 года назад
Tsundere? You liked it... You liked it
@JRProductions1203
@JRProductions1203 6 месяцев назад
I didn't liked it
@idklol4197
@idklol4197 2 года назад
i'm only 5 minutes into this and im not the biggest undertale fan ever, though i do think its a great game. i feel compelled to make this comment because some of your criticisms so far come across as shallow nitpicking. Why do these monsters attack me but the ones in town dont? are free will, or the suspension of disbelief, foreign concepts to you? and alphys's sprite appearing to smile even though you killed her robot? thats her regular sprite. what your're complaining about is a very normal quirk of old school rpgs (a genre the look of the game obviously emulates) that couldn't be changing sprites all the time due to hardware constraints. i'm gonna watch the rest of this video but its not looking good so far
@idklol4197
@idklol4197 2 года назад
now having watched the whole thing, it mostly seemed to me like onanistic complaining. the strengths of undertale, its creativity, thoughtfulness, music, so overwhelm the facile quibbles you quaver about, ie moaning about plot holes in the story of a game with silly skeletons
@realpagliaccio
@realpagliaccio 2 года назад
congratulations
@andarilho_31
@andarilho_31 2 года назад
@@idklol4197 He's just criticizing the story, wich, is pretty mediocre to me.
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature 2 года назад
Agree. He makes good points at times, but it seems like he was trying a little too hard to “go against the grain”.
@mikhailsalamanca2405
@mikhailsalamanca2405 9 месяцев назад
Things are a lot better in Deltarune, but not enough.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 9 месяцев назад
Yea- the plot still sucks and humour... Humour
@mikhailsalamanca2405
@mikhailsalamanca2405 9 месяцев назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny sometimes I can genuinely laugh, but it feels childish. A bit of edge and realism would be neat, not too much though.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 9 месяцев назад
@@mikhailsalamanca2405 I love dark and dark stories, so I don't think I'm right, but it seems to me that Toby Fox's games are incredibly comedic and childish. It's incredible that some people call Undertale a profound work or masterpiece when there is almost no plot in the game itself.
@mikhailsalamanca2405
@mikhailsalamanca2405 9 месяцев назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny i think i heard enough. Circlejerk closed.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny 9 месяцев назад
@@mikhailsalamanca2405 I have no idea what the last word means, but okay
@pinxelated2799
@pinxelated2799 Год назад
Flowey states that he can't feel emotions like love and compassion specifically, so it's not that he can't feel at all, it's just that he's essentially become completely sociopathic due to his lack of a soul.
@denysvision
@denysvision Год назад
bruh, you can't just say you don't fell anything when you do, and asriel was depicted as a nice person, and both asriel and flowie are the same so why would flowie be sochiopath?
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature Год назад
@@denysvision People change as a result of experiences. If you had played the game, you’d know he specifically points out that dying gave him the cynical worldview that it’s “kill or be killed”, and the power to reset didn’t help at all.
@roca7268
@roca7268 Год назад
You're right, Flowey didn't lost all his emotions, only "love, hope, compassion": It is said in the library that it is believe that a monster soul is made of those three emotions, and as a consequence those are the "very culmination of their being". Being souless doesn't mean not having emotions, because Flowey can still experience fun, curiosity, fear, anger, and much more. But he can't feel love or compassion anymore.
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
A sociopath is a healthy person. A psychopath is a sick person. I think the story of this character is beautiful, but in real life it would be impossible to cure him.
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny L + anyone can be a good person if they just try + dont kill and dont be killed
@lasagnaboy4075
@lasagnaboy4075 3 года назад
It's a good game not a GOD like game given by the gods to entertain us mortals (like a lot of the cringy fandom 9 year olds say and think) but it's not a bad game either It's ok and if you like it you can dive more into it and that's fine and also not all the fan base is bad mostly yes, yes it is but there are some good people there making good stuff from a nice game we just need to ignore the bad, unholy side of the fan base
@Coach_Gaming_Today
@Coach_Gaming_Today Год назад
Pretty sure chara is supposed to represent you the player except they also aren't so I'm not sure
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
Chara is obviously a player, but that's not the point... Why the fuck is the player a negative character?
@Coach_Gaming_Today
@Coach_Gaming_Today Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny murder
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
@@Coach_Gaming_Today The killer of what? At the end of a bad ending, we destroy the whole world, but did we really want that? I would like to see a completely dead nation on a bad ending, but I got a completely dead world:/
@Coach_Gaming_Today
@Coach_Gaming_Today Год назад
@@yalovoyhznepomny chara is supposed to represent you (the player) during the genocide run controlling the yellow child
@yalovoyhznepomny
@yalovoyhznepomny Год назад
@@Coach_Gaming_Today I know... But when I was going through a bad ending, I didn't understand why the game wanted me not to do it so much - I'll do it because I'm interested, and it doesn't matter what the price is.
@hottdogge1749
@hottdogge1749 3 года назад
24:10 it’s for the camera boy ;). unless there was no camera…
@caoistico669
@caoistico669 Год назад
Nah, for me, the fame is ok, just, a good endie game, that you finish, and thats its, oh, and i kill toriel
@superadambomb5834
@superadambomb5834 3 года назад
1:25 it may have put a bad taste in your mouth at the end but that doesn’t mean everyone didn’t like it as much cuz of the end. In fact I liked the game way more than I thought I would Edit: just to make things clear I respect ur opinion
@histkontext
@histkontext 2 года назад
if the gameplay is just "bullet hell" i am not interested :D
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
No the gameplay is not Just bullet hell (:
@caoistico669
@caoistico669 Год назад
Team fortress 2 is better
@jeovanaoliveira8251
@jeovanaoliveira8251 Год назад
E
@caoistico669
@caoistico669 Год назад
@@jeovanaoliveira8251 E
@paullossypaulplossy
@paullossypaulplossy 3 года назад
also doesn’t toriel literally address asgore not crossing the barrier with one soul? the whole “pathetic whelp” comment during the pacifist run? i mean most of this video is you acting bored or saying everything is stupid cause you talk about it in a bored voice.
@JeNn0mic0n
@JeNn0mic0n 2 года назад
Someone’s butthurt 😂 Not everyone is impressed by your precious undertale
@Stew91
@Stew91 2 года назад
@@JeNn0mic0n I like how you dismiss criticism as someone being a "butthurt Undertale fan". You're so pathetic.
@kazzykun5235
@kazzykun5235 2 года назад
I don't know... Toriel's delivery was kinda weird tbh. I know she was supposed to address Asgore's cowardice and that he didn't collect rest of souls outside the barrier using one collected, because deep down he didn't want to do that. Still the delivery gave me the impression that the soul collecting was the right way to get out of the underground.
@JeNn0mic0n
@JeNn0mic0n 2 года назад
@@Stew91 You mean, kinda like what you’re doing? Funny how that works 🙃
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature 2 года назад
@JeNn0mic0n You’re being really immature right now. You just decided to throw around meaningless insults when faced with criticism, and when called out on it, decide to further evade the question and instead accuse the person who called you out of hypocrisy. Cringe.
@tjlevey378
@tjlevey378 3 года назад
Bro I know this is a year old but, the “Psychonaut Syndrome” can apply to cyberpunk right now
@SavageJarJar
@SavageJarJar 11 месяцев назад
It applies to any recent game, people are delusional
@flamehiro
@flamehiro Год назад
It's a good game and that's about it for me. I personally didn't care for the gimmicky kill or not kill mechanics but regardless still had a fun experience.
Далее
A thorough analysis of Sans
31:31
Просмотров 147 тыс.
Самая сложная маска…
00:32
Просмотров 747 тыс.
Истории с сестрой (Сборник)
38:16
Undertale Yellow is a Masterpiece.
20:01
Просмотров 25 тыс.
Perverted Sentimentality: An Analysis of UNDERTALE
14:16
Undertale Plot Analysis (SPOILERS) - Nitro Rad
30:26
Просмотров 146 тыс.
Just what made Undertale so good anyway?
11:49
Просмотров 25 тыс.
Should Your Boyfriend Play Undertale?
8:40
Просмотров 1 млн
Best Game Ever -  Undertale
28:40
Просмотров 94 тыс.
How Undertale (Accidentally) Broke Me
14:56
Просмотров 887 тыс.
How Undertale and Deltarune Create Iconic Characters
6:47
What The Internet did To Undertale
39:15
Просмотров 8 млн
Good Game Design - Undertale: Real Morality
12:32
Просмотров 1 млн
Самая сложная маска…
00:32
Просмотров 747 тыс.