Could not spare Ceroba and Martlet (second fight) despite their names being yellow. Uncertain if that is a bug or not. #undertale #undertalefangame #undertaleyellow
I quite enjoy the idea of Clover diving into the underground with vengeance in their heart, only to be floored by the reality of the situation... just a bit too late
I imagine their idea of what monsters are like differs a lot from what they ended up meeting. Especially considering they would end up just living with Toriel if not for Flowey’s intervention.
This is probably why the Martlet fight gives you the option to apologize. With all other monsters up to this point, you can at least see where Clover would feel threatened. Random encounters feeling like ambushes, Dalv's warnings sounding sinister, etc. But with Martlet, there's no excuse. She's trying to help you escape from some unknown threat, oblivious to the fact that that threat is Clover themself, and doesn't even fight back for a good while. There's little to no excuse for fighting her, and Clover would probably recognize that.
I like the thought that some characters actually *understand* why Clover would be killing monsters and then suddenly realize what it's been entailing. Martlet even explicitly says that Clover was just expressing self defence, understanding not only that Clover wouldn't *want* to die, but that Clover also wasn't aware that the monsters were just misunderstood innocents.
"Innocent" is a joke right? Axis is a murder death machine. Ceroba performed lab experiments to make monsters stronger and ultimately be another death machine. Martlet is a solider trained to deal with and kill humans
The fact that Axis saying "YOU STILL [freaking] SUCK" when pretty much none of his text is formatted like that makes me think that he actually did cuss Clover out right there, but Chujin programmed him with a profanity filter.
Nah it's ok, the Neutral ending in this game just ends up with Flowey erasing everything anyways, there aren't diverse neutral endings like in regular undertale (which is kinda dissapointing)
@@darksoulsismycityTrue but they still experience the suffering after you spared them And if you say "it doesn't matter because their memories will be reset", this is just saying that monsters and humans' feelings don't matter because we'll all die at some point
@@Firefly256 If you keep resetting long enough, from your perspective those 'things' wouldnt even be really alive anymore. Just another set piece of scenery. So its all about perspective
Lmao, I like how even on Genocide there are options to be even more of a prick and that you're punished for it. Like Genocide itself can be written off as Clover avenging the other fallen humans, but apologizing and then attacking her really is inexcusable. Amazing.
I think to even encounter El Baliador you would have to not kill everyone monster before your encounter with him. Think of him like Napstablook. If you kill everyone monster before encountering Napstablook you don’t fight him.
Yea if you deplete the kill count before his area he’s not there but I had the misfortune or battling him before I had finished it He was the one I felt the least guilty (but still really guilty) about cause I hated his boss fight on pacifist
I like how the genocide route in Yellow actually has a degree of in-universe justification for why Clover would go through with it; they're on a mission to punish humanity's old enemies for the _murder of several children._ Even if it becomes obvious pretty quickly that most of the people in your path are innocent of the crime, if you get into Clover's headspace it isn't hard to imagine someone like that hardening their heart out of rage, ingrained prejudice and a desire for retribution. In the original game, choosing genocide felt like you were just some deranged asshole flying into a killing spree for no reason at all lol.
In Undertale it is justified by it being not the character's own decision, but directly yours...Player's. The game judges YOU personally, not the human. The player themselves gets tired of replaying the game the nice way and tries something new for once.
@@almas4663 That's true, and it was an interesting exploration of players' insatiable want for "more game" at any cost; I just like the new angle they gave Genocide in Yellow. It feels more like a decision your _character_ might choose to make, rather than being a meta thing.
@@Daniel_Lancelin Exactly! I love it too! Personally, I found myself enjoying UTY even more than UT itself, and we shall see if Deltarune can top the bar set narratively, visually, gameplay-wise and musically
@@DromusTH No it won't. In both UT and UTY it will just brush it off as self defence...Then call you out. Then blame you for something horrible...And only if you do the unthinkable - the game will call you sick
NoooOooOoOooo!! Why won't they forgive Clover after he killed her best friend and comitted genocide 😭?!? More seriously, it's kinda strange that you can't spare Ceroba. She's just incapacited like Axis. I haven't tried tough since the fight was too hard and I wanted to continue.
@@omniscientomnipresent5500 I guess that Ceroba won't accept your mercy unlike Axis. (Which make sense, Axis only fight you because you want to kill him, not the other way around. And Ceroba just hate you)
Strange how striking Dalv down is easily kinder, easily more merciful than... Sparing his life. It's hard to call murder the "nicer" option, but at this point? It's too late. The little he had left in his self-imposed isolation is gone, you took everything away without care. Don't force him to live in that reality, too.
There's a theory going around that the Integrity soul could be Clover's twin sister, which would not only explain why Dalv mistakes them for Integrity, but also why their LV goes so high when fighting Axis, it also gives them a more personal reason for going into the underground seeking vengeance in the first place
I think Clover is just THAT serious about getting “justice” for the human souls. I mean they instantly turn to attack flowey the second he slips up and implies he wants the souls for himself
One small hole with that theory: How would Clover "know" that Axis killed Integrity? We, the player, remember what happened in previous runs. But Clover doesn't. And Axis only mentions he killed a human. You can only learn which human it was if you visit Ceroba's old house, but you don't do that in this run.
@@yacine_607 Uh...? Yeah, I'm saying that Clover DOES remember what happened IN the genocide run, DURING the genocide run. But they wouldn't remember a prior pacifist run.
@@graysongdl They could always assume it was integrity, considering how little Axis has rusted, he still seems in pretty good shape before you shoot him But then again, who knows the order of souls that falls down, because im pretty sure perseverance falls in between justice and integrity
5:05 “You’re getting annoyed by the music” when there is no music almost sounds like Clover’s pissed we forced them to spare Bailador, even though canonically that isn’t actually the case
When it comes to what happens when you abort the pacifist or genocide routes, I think this game's got Undertale beat. I mean, in Undertale, if you abandon the genocide route in Snowdin, Papyrus acts like you did the puzzles even though you didn't, and if you abandon in Waterfall, Alphys still wants to help you even though she was supposedly helping everyone evacuate.
Yeah, in Undertale they act like everything's fine and you did nothing wrong, in here, they are just weirded out, but most of them still fcking hate you because you ruined so many lives and you just suddenly stop
UTY does also have consistency problems when it comes to aborting routes too. Such as with aborting pacifist by killing axis. Ceroba will leave as expected but all the planned pacifist events that should have happened, like Starlo sending you a letter and him and Ed investigating Ceroba's house. Cease to exist just because you're placed on neutral, even though they would have been happening before you even fought Axis. Martlet's private letter is also pretty jarring as it should take her a decent amount of time to know you have killed someone.
Precisely! As much as i love the story writing in Undertale, this is definitely one of its main downsides. UTY definitely handles the whole "route abortion" situation better.
@@Turbulation1 Good point. I didn't know about this. Still, I don't think that's as bad as the two things I mentioned about Undertale. Also, I just think it's funny that in both Undertale and Undertale Yellow, destroying a robot has basically the same consequences as killing a living monster.
i assume you mean genocide instead of pacifist, but i can confirm that this is true, what i did was kill everyone except decibat, this was after i reset my first real neutral route after fighting Dalv due to feeling too guilty to left him all alone, and by fighting Dalv a bit. afterwards he'll stop talking and will keep fighting until either of us dies.
She made me abandon genocide twice. The first time because I loved her too much to go through with it. The second time because I suck at this game and ragequit.
@@cantaloupegodling352 4 months late, but same here; Martlet endgame was so much of a nightmare for me, I stopped counting the amount of times I died to her.
"yeah im sorry lol yeah it was self defense it wasnt my fault martlet they just kept running into my bullets the wind made my finger pull the trigger on my gun when it was perfectly on their heads okay it wasnt my fault BELIEVE ME" 10/10 apology would apology again
Fun fact: You can spare Dalv on the genocide run but it will still continue as the genocide run, by killing everyone in the underground. You have truly made Dalv alone.
yeah I wonder, cus Flowey we mentions that you could leave the ruins destroyed and not face much in terms of consequences because barely no one goes there
That’s what I did and it’s neutral. Flowey has extra dialogue where he’s like “it was starting to seem like you understood, then you went all soft on me” something like thay
Damn, a lot of these are interesting but Dalv's was just sad. He was already living a pretty sad life before Clover came around, but after Clover came in and killed everyone else, he was truly alone.
Clover's face is literally from the Ruins: Argh... I want to kill, tear out guts, so that everyone will answer for five children. Some kind of robot that was supposed to neutralize this Human > spare: In fact, I'm a good guy
On my first attempt at a genocide run I genuinely couldn't bring myself to try to kill Martlet. She doesn't even attack back after you hit her the first few times. She's just too lovable I couldn't take it so I spared her. I didn't save and came back the next day after steeling myself. She also ended my second genocide attempt. In a much more direct manner.
Wow. Now I feel like a bad guy for having enjoyed killing him on my genocide run. He gave me a lot of trouble on my pacifist run so I really hated the guy by the time I was back to the same spot on my second playthrough. Am I the only one? 😅
@@yourlocalchloesimp Я больше скажу. После 40+ траев на пацифисте у меня с него подгорело настолько, что я плюнул на весь пацифизм и дал ему то, что он действительно заслужил... 4 лв неплохо апают Кловера)
Wait how did you fight the rhythm boss guy? I literally did not see this guy in my entire geno run. I've heard about his fight but I thought it was really like a pacifist-exclusive character or something... I'm already fighting (the final boss) in my genocide playthrough too so...
He doesn't show up if you've already cleared the area, as if he was a normal enemy, so if you want to kill him you have to wait to grind until after fighting him.
@@ZombieManF ah dang; I know that I missed out on at least half of the normal enemies by exhausting the count immediately in every monster room... but even a boss fight gets cut from it? Welp, I guess I got to keep more items for the final boss then but, still kinda sucks that I missed out on a particularly unique battle
@@ZombieManF my theory is that, the ''special'' enemy's they heard about your massacre and ran away or Knew they were next if they fought you so, they ran away
I got the boss cause I didn't know that when the sandstorm stops monsters could spawn so I kinda got to the cave and got it (I got confused as hell when it said there were still monsters left I backtracked through the entire cave and map till I reached the sandstorm area lol)
@@OblivionCreator Aw drats. There were quite a few enemies I would've liked to pummel first for dialogue and what not if I knew postponing mass murder had an effect. Guess that's something to look forward to in a later run. Thanks for the answer though
@@alextheidiot8071 NAHHH it's fiiiiine. Not like any of them will remember what happened to them later on anyways. Though if they did, they would probably be really mad that I first spared them all, then killed them all, and later plan to kill some of them in that order out of pure curiosity.
What would happen if you managed to reach the NEW HOME area in pacifist to fight cereba but you went back to an area where you fight a monster then kill it and go back, what would happen?
@@Maannnn... Well, i guess you can still get either a true or false pacifist ending depending on whether you kill or spare Ceroba after the final fight, but yea, neutral ending is pretty much impossible after that point.
The way axis tells you you freaking suck it is like that alphys ending in undertale where she tells you she would want to kill you when she had the chance
It's not a true genocide. I failed the run because of this, but they didn't kill *all* of the robots. Doing so makes Axis not confess to him killing a human, thus not making Clover beat him inside out with the handle of their revolver.
@@solisruben296 That makes sense, it's a shame I made a back-up of my savefile *after* killing every robot so I don't see a way to get this outcome, I'll replay it another time though
@@Mart1n192 and it's a shame I went in completely blind so I didn't realize that I accidentally abandoned my run too. It's worse because I was following what flowey said of the robots being a waste of time.
Hmmm… what if you kill everyone but martlet? Outcome would be the same but Cerobas still alive… would martlet not attempt to kill you just because you spared her but no one else?
But i just think its kinda weird. Why would sparing something that doesnt even matter or have actual real feelings ruin a genocide? Flowey said it himself. If someone actually listened to flowey in a genocide and expected to just get out faster of the steamworks.. they would have to do it all again by loading back.
Because Axis only feels pressured into mentioning the human he killed if you eliminate everything in Steamworks. Otherwise, he has no reason to bring it up, so Clover never has a surge of LOVE, thus doesn't try to kill Martlet and so no Zenith
I haven't played the game yet, but it seemed like the vampire was the only one where you actually aborted the genocide run. The others felt like if you spared them in a normal run. They didn't really freak out like I thought they would. Did the creator of the video reload their save after the vampire then kill him in order to continue genocide run or did they continue on after sparing and keep doing a killing spree but now on a neutral run.
If you spare bosses in genocide, there wont be an PERFECT genocide but rather paci-cide. AND HELP I CANT KILL MARTLET GENOCIDE :CRY: (not the last bost the snowdin one)
Odio la pelea ritmica con El Bailador en la ruta neutral y en la ruta genocida me dije "disfrutare matarte Bailador" pero sus ultimas palabras antes de matarlo en geno me hizo sentir muy mal, él solo queria ser un heroe haciendo que todos tengan siempre una sonrisa en la cara
Gotta say, this is honestly depressing¡, like kudos to the creator for giving the dialogue such emotion Like Dalv's is just sad, and i even feel bad for el bailador
You can spare Dalv in the geno run without turning it into a neutral, you can get the silver scarf since the npc’s needed are there, then you can start geno again without any repercussions.
Honestly this shows how evil you truly are as the people of the underground are willing to spare you even when you killed all of their friends and family, except a select few
@@Tyson-i7r Actually most monsters didn’t do anything and are just victims to this. We can also assume that the children (except yellow) died around where the equipment was.
@@dylanzlol7293 Yes but do we know where he killed him? Also if anything it proves my point that most monsters didn’t do anything. We know that Axis killed cause of his programming and that only 1 person designed him
All of the ways to abort genocide by sparing bosses: 1. Sparing Decibat. (Optional) 2. Sparing Dalv. 3. Apologizing to Martlet. 4. Sparing El Bailador. (By waiting for him to feel bad and spare you. ) 5. Missing some enemies before reaching Axis (If you don't exhaust the kill counter before reaching the Axis battle zone. )
5:33 im sorry. that attack took me 2 hours of practicing with cheats in order to nohit. how did you just... do that? also the thumbnails pretty spoilery but how did you do that so casually?
@@dracibatic2433 Multiple unusual movements were done, such as jittering left and right often, almost always dashing a frame or two away from damage, and not dashing in situations where it’d be the obvious choice in favor of doing dodges that simply don’t seem optimal. (In particular, check times like 0:30 and 3:00) There’s no definitive proof, but it’s extremely questionable when viewed with an introspective eye.
*remembers how martlet becomes a final boss yet your full on permitted to spare her* ...honestly... why? It doesn't make the final boss any easier in fact I'd argue it just makes it harder by proxy of one less lv
