Undertale Yellow with a side of salt 

I'm convinced that if it is a robot and if it is a girl Scott will like it.

I’ve heard that the difference is that Neutral route is when Clover pursues Justice as they know it at the time, basing it on the current situation. Pacifist is when Clover gets to know the monsters and decides to pursue Justice on _Their_ behalf. Genocide is when Clover takes Justice to it’s limit, meaning it’s no longer Justice, but Vengeance.

Props to whoever wrote Flowey in this game, they nailed his character so well that if you told me Toby himself wrote the neutral ending, I'd believe it

Ok, that animated Chujin scene that pointed out just how ridiculous Ceroba's actions were had me laughing pretty hard.

Ah yes, the real name of clover. Gun-hat

I LOVE how all 3 routes feel equally polished bc like... Every other fangame in existence is like GENOCIDE IS THE ONLY THING THAT EXISTS so it's a breath of fresh air that the NEUTRAL ROUTE is as good as it is

What I find awesome is the fact that Clover actually has his own emotions and actions that are not influenced by the player. Giving things to people or literally shaking from fear after seeing the souls of dead children and wielding a gun for self defense - it all adds to the personality of the characters.

Honestly I gotta agree about Ceroba. Soon as you get to her the story basically becomes 100% about her. Not to mention the animated bit you did about her being told NOT to test it on their daughter is 100% how I saw it in my head after the game. If any part of the game felt like bad writing...it was that. Honestly I feel like a better way to of done that would of been for her to deny her Daughter being the test subject (CAUSE SHE WAS TOLD TO) only for her daughter to either steal it and use it on herself or sneak in later to do the same thing. Least then it would of felt like her daughter died in a desperate attempt to help her fallen father and not her mom's stupid choice to ignore her fallen husbands wishes. Ceroba could then STILL feel guilty about her daughters death due to her serum being wrong and not protecting it well enough.

My gripe with Ceroba was basically stated here on how there was a clear message from her LATE husband about not using is on their daughter but does it anyway. Would've been different if say the daughter found out and Ceroba constantly told her no when she was asked. Course the one moment of distraction gave the daugher the chance to use it on herself, which would keep the guilt aspect of Ceroba over not protecting their daughter

You know, after only seeing unrelenting praise or harsh criticism of Undertale Yellow, I needed a review like this. One that sings its praises while also making fair points about its flaws. This is the kind of review that makes me genuinely appreciate the game and its developers. Thanks.

The reason that the fangames tend to be more difficult than the property it is based on is to do with their audiences. By nature, fangames like UTY are played by people who are already familiar with Undertale, and want to experience something new. As a result, it is assumed that they are more knowledgeable of the game's mechanics compared to a newcomer, who is very unlikely to play UTY first. That being said, I do agree that some attack patterns could've used playtesting. EDIT: No, I'm not justifying the unfair aspects of the fights. As I said, there should've been more playtesting done on those battles - especially by beginners. I was just pointing at the usual trend of why fangame creators feel the need to elevate difficulty in the first place.

You know there’s something wrong with your bullet patterns when the FIRST PATCH for your game includes: - Fixed unfair bullet patterns with genocide midpoint boss - Fixed unfair bullet patterns with genocide final boss - Gave you more healing items before the genocide final boss

Honestly that’s pretty cool that Toby is supportive of the development of this game.😺

Pacifist final boss pre patch was insane. Blackholes, attack that stuns you, orange and blue attacks, plus random attack patterns.

Good review. Agree with most of your critiques. I think the designs of the main cast are great, but they all had similar body types and i couldn't help but feel a sense of "same-y" ness. I love em, but it felt like that. As examples from undertale, Sans is short and stout, Papyrus tall and lanky with his body armor giving a large upper body, Alphys "hunchback" dino, and Muffet looks thinner than Papyrus. Undyne and Toriel are among the more human proportions, but their body sizes are still different. I agree that Ceroba plot felt the most pushed. Probably because it went "in depth" with her story compared to Dalv(Can we call his a plotline?) Martlet, and Starlo. Didn't hate it though. Disagree on Martlet's personality being a simple combo of Sans and Papyrus though. Her role is definitely in place of Sans and Papyrus, as the goofy sidekick by your side who has funny dialogue. Otherwise i'd say she's got a mind of her own. I never got the impression of her being lazy compared to Sans, or as puzzle loving as Papyrus. She seemed more like... an eager and clumsy (bird-brained) newbie. Falling asleep on slow days, checking up on her puzzles to make sure they work properly, and arresting who she thought was human. Selling it the most is her constant reference to the royal guard handbook, as she still hasn't memorized all the rules and protocols and frantically pulls it out the moment she gets into trouble, or forgets a line. Her character narrative is ditching the notebook in favor of what she believes is just and right.

What I love particularly is that they made the neutral ending its own actual plot, and it ended up being my favorite one

It's kinda funny how the neutral route is the one where Ceroba is the least present and also (to me at least) the best route (that final boss especially)

Very good analysis! I understand your gripes with the designs and especially Ceroba, though I still enjoyed the characters, particularly Martlet. My one "complaint" is that I'm sad you didn't talk about the neutral ending because it is utter insanity.

6:38 To be fair, Deltarune does this too. Noelle isn’t very monsterous, nor is berdly, or Catti, or like any of the new characters. However, Deltarune characters still don’t feel like furry OCs, while the characters in Yellow do. My best guess as to why this is, is the art style, Toby’s art style kinda reminds me of like, cartoons like regular show or whatever, while the character designs in Undertale yellow just use a furry kinda artstyle.

9:29 ah yes, both routes. all 2 routes. only two of them, no in-between, no in-between, no in-between, no in-between, no in-between, no in-between.

I think the reason fan games often spike difficulty compared to the standard game is cause they know that people who are playing the fan game will already know something about the base game. It’s the same reason why sequel games tend to have harder bosses, at least from what I’ve seen. There are exceptions, but on a whole the act of someone already having been through the challenge of the sans fight at the very end or even just knowing it creates the expectation of something similar but also different. Do I think yellow did it perfectly, no but they’re building off what is known so idk if there’s any need to teach the player about much like the sans or undyne fight did.

You should really do the neutral ending because it definitely has the coolest boss fight, and the highest production value out of anything in the game. Floweys dialogue there is also really great, whoever wrote him has a really good understanding of the character.

I personally loved the game but the fact that 90% of the time act options on boss fights were useless was a pretty major drawback. TBH I think that the characters were super memorable and the story was pretty solid considering all that went into it. Easily the best fangame I've ever played and leagues above most of the other edge-lord sans bossfight fangames out there. Solid 8/10

Chujin: Yeah, we basically invented monster steroids that turns Monsters into 2004 Berry Bonds. Do not put that in our daugther. Kanako: I wanna be like Bonds. (Injection)

Nice video scott i hope the community is nice to your opinions and more importantly YOU because you had some very good points.

8:26 "...Sure, sweetie!" Screen: *WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!*

"A lot of the characters have this horrible habit of not shutting up before or during the fights" Scott I thought we learned not to criticize the game that prides itself on dialogue for having a lot of dialogue

I think Touhou fox was just following Sanses future advice of "using your strongest attack first"

Sucks that the music is being hit with copyright bs, let’s hope that gets resolved

I also kinda got the vibe of the story being focused on a certain character. Though, for me, it wasn’t Ceroba, it was Martlet. It just felt like she had more of a presence in all three routes, rather than a lot in Pacifist and a little in Genocide. It felt like your overall enjoyment would be heavily determined if you like her or not. And I mean, I did like her, but I didn’t really like how much it relied on her.

Honestly Neutral & Pacifist being wholly separate was a MASSIVE surprise for me going in blind, something I've never seen in a fangame at all tbh!

Scott brings up a lot of good notes about game design that games need to slowly teach you about a mechanic and how to interact with them... the caveat is that these are FAN games, and similarly that if you're looking into this stuff, the devs are expecting a certain level of game mastery from you to engage with this content (simular to high level DDR/BeatSaber/Pump master charts and custom songs)

the whole not easing you into fights thing is like that because 1. genocide is supposed to be done after pacifist unless you’re a sadist and 2. it’s supposed to be for people who already played undertale

yeah i definitely agree that the bullet patterns being ridiculous at some points, and they seem to rely too heavily on orange/blue attacks at certain points combined with other nonsense….and that i found orange attacks to be somewhat glitchy at times, IM LOOKING AT YOU AXIS by the way, i highly, HIGHLY recommend doing the neutral route…rather then just throwing you into the metaphorical trashcan at the end, ill be happy to tell you that there is a massive payoff exclusive too the route that i think you’ll love.

One thing that I find especially intriguing about Clover, sorry “GunHat” is that unlike Frisk or Kris who are shown to be on some level subservient to the player, Clover has no such issue. There’s little angst with forced determination and “I’m not fully in control, so my actions mean less”. There’s no conscience narrator over the shoulder bs either. Compared to the original Undertale’s over-the-top moral/meta preaching, this game feels much more grounded and less nihilistic. The end result is a protagonist who is very much in control of their own decisions, and at certain points orders the PLAYER around. Having the character we play as actually have some agency over their actions, even their less than moral ones, is a breath of fresh air imo.

I agree with some of the Ceroba critique. There is a heavy bias of favoritism towards her. To the point that what should have been an epic boss fight with Starlo was replaced with Ceroba bein mad... Like...why did she need a Genocide fight? She already had a grand finale with pacifist. This would be like fighting Asriel instead of Undyne the undying. Starlo would have had a lot to gain character wise from a geno battle. A guy who has only been pretending ti be tough and strong up until this point up against the avatar of justice? There's so much drama to that! But instead we have him dying like a fool (especially if he hits you during the dual) and then a fight with Ceroba that's really just her being "grr, I hope you're happy". Or hey, what if their roles were swapped? Ceroba gets one shotted by Clover causing Starlo to have a real motivation to be true to the facade he's built.

God, thank you for criticizing the plot. The thing is, the game was overall so well made and charming it feels like everyone ignores how completely badly written the entire last 10-20% of the Pacifist route is. Like, up to that point the game has seamlessly integrated its setting and characters into the tone and feel of the original game, and then it just completely collapses in on itself in the end, and it’s really such a shame, because the rest of the story, which overall was incredibly enjoyable, is dragged down by it. What’s such a shame is how it felt like it was going somewhere! I was incredibly invested in everything and all the characters, right up until the reveal of the tapes, and then the somewhere it was going is just. So disappointing. In some ways it was inevitable, what with Clover’s canon fate being what it is, but it felt like, just like with Martlet’s inevitable Undyne The Undying/Sans Ultimate Genocide route boss thing, they really stumbled over themselves in their desire to slavishly parallel canon’s plot beats. It feels like they wanted to copy the original Pacifist ending, with the Amalgamates and all, and it just isn’t a good fit for the story whatsoever. Part of it, admittedly, is petty and just that I disagree with their take on Boss Monsters not being specifically Asgore and Toriel’s species, but the thing is, it’s not just that. Chujin in general just feels like a massive tumor on the plot once he stops being a robotics engineer and SUDDENLY for some reason is a generic mad scientist who SUDDENLY has the knowledge and ability to be experimenting on Not!Determination and SUDDENLY is a Boss Monster and SUDDENLY we’re supposed to care about him and it just all becomes a muddled mess, built around living up to twists that it can’t successfully emulate because they were a one time success that was built on contexts that Yellow just can’t replicate properly. Ceroba is just not compelling as a character! The thing is, actually, I’m lying, she’s compelling and fun and great and interesting as a character… right up until they actually reveal what her deal is, and suddenly it’s just, like. Well, suddenly I don’t like her all that much. Her husband specifically asked her not to involve their daughter, and then her daughter asks really nicely once and she does? Her daughter is like six or something! Why on Earth did Ceroba listen to her? I saw people say that, well, lots of Undertale characters have done bad things, but the thing is that those bad things are either not taken very seriously by the narrative, like how everyone tries to kill Frisk before they make friends and are forgiven, or make logical sense for them to do, like Asgore’s whole deal. Ceroba and Kanako’s story is in a unique cross section of ‘taken seriously by the narrative’ and ‘makes no logical sense to do’, where it completely destroyed my investment in her as a character, where suddenly she’s a woman who killed her daughter through her own stupidity, against her husband’s last and only wishes, while claiming she’s fulfilling them. And in another world, that would actually be really compelling, but the game doesn’t seem to recognize that’s what she did, and wants me to, like, sympathize with her actions in any way whatsoever?... so I’m just left feeling numb to her entire deal, and given she’s the final boss with multiple cutscenes where I’m supposed to be invested in her plight, that’s not a good thing! And I feel insane because I generally don’t see anyone talking about this? Universal praise makes sense, overall I thought everything besides that last little bit was genius, but it is just. So obviously stupid that I can’t believe people don’t mention it. I guess people want to focus on the positives, but, like. Still. A little criticism doesn’t hurt anyone.

The fact he didn’t bring up axis once (the best character) feels insulting

7:04 you heard the man people the bald are not human

4:07 I feel like this point is kinda undone by Sans and his first attack, which throws karma, no Invincibility frames, and a new soul mode all at you immediately. Granted Ceroba is the midway boss and not the final boss, but still

3:05 “Fangames have that mindset of hard BS = good” Plays Library of Ruina music

6:40 Ah yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the difference between character monsters in this game and the ones in the original Undertale. The regular monsters that attack you look still like the monsters from the original with the same silly vibes, but this just makes the gulf between them more noticeable.

4:24 i knew average games made for fun are play tested, but i never TRULY thought about what the REALLY meant until i had an epiphany while designing my levels/world for Mario Maker 2. the more i played it and thought "this is good, but it feels too easy" so i adjusted things, and critiqued, and adjusted, and then something just clicked mid way through it all: "Holy shit, these are gonna be a pain in the ass to play through. ive been making these levels for ME to play and not ANYBODY." so i went back over EVERY level i had already finished(none were uploaded yet) and corrected the "romhack difficulty" they were teetering on. its so easy to get swept up in "once you know exactly what to do in every situation, its much easier" and then just not ever stop to think about how bad it would come off to everybody who DOESNT know.

Honestly the game’s more detailed overworld sprites for new characters gave me a bigger appreciation for how sprites are handled in Deltarune. Pretty much every new character introduced in the light world looks like they could be from Undertale, while the more detailed characters are exclusive to the dark world. It makes the contrast of sprite quality feel intentional rather than just a product of a bigger team and Temmie improving since Undertale. That being said, the sprite work for yellow is still undeniably beautiful, and the battle sprites specifically do a good job at feeling like they’re from Undertale while being much more detailed.

I agree pretty much completely! It deserves the love and attention its been getting and oozes with charm but the story and fight patterns needed more passes

I Like how you gave Sudden Changes as an example of a.. "mess of attacks". Because that's basically what it is.

8:06 The way you voiced the husband, had some serious Stamper vibes. RIP Stamper's YT channel.

I loved Undertale Yellow to bits, but even I'll admit that the optional dialogue options were exceptionally long. Pacing dialogue out or even using the staple "..." between paragraphs does wonders when a character talks to you about chapters of their life. It eases us into the mood of the conversation--lets the atmosphere set in. It needed more breaks. Battle dialogue was good about that. Speaking of battles--while I agree that some of the fights are a lot more frantic right out the gate than others--I can't help but feel that, if Undertale Yellow were played shortly after Undertale, the pace wouldn't be too, too overwhelming. The problem is, it's been ~9 years since most of us casually, yet thoroughly, played Undertale--and, needless to say, we're a bit rustier than the game expected us to be, I felt. The battles are *fast*. The Retry option is a blessing--though I find it weird that Retries don't count towards your total death count by the end--apparently only Continues do. Don't know what that's about, but I KNOW I hit Retry more than ONE DEATH'S worth! Trust me! I do find it charming that the game secretly teaches you how to fight a specific boss through an optional arcade game using fairly similar mechanics--I'm sure that my stubbornness to beat it helped me persevere in the end. They were excellent fights! Personal gripe though--god I wish I clicked better with the dance-off boss battle. My fingers could not agree with the configuration nor rhythm--I was very frustrated with how that one functioned. Not a fan of HoldLeft+Z, HoldRight+Z, and Z--I would've much preferred just... holding left, right, or up at the right times. Letting go to do middle is weird to me! Felt needlessly complicated, but I might be just bad--they killed me way more than the final boss did, much to my shame and frustration lmao. "I cannot move-it, move-it!" Q`AQ I swear the game is wonderful though! It's a fantastic fan-game! The sprite animations were definitely my favorite parts!! +`A+ I'll also throw Ceroba's writing a bone here--she lost her husband to his workaholic desperation to keep monsterkind safe--she lost her daughter out of desperation for wanting to make her husband's sacrifices not for nothing, desperation for wanting to make her daughter strong enough to survive humanity's pseudo-annual cruelty, desperation for wanting a better future for herself, her daughter, everyone--to be able to leave their gods-damned underground prison of a life because they already know they can't count on their KING to do anything! None of it justifies their mistakes, but their mistakes were made out of desperation from every direction. To say "their daughter was all they had" would be correct whichever way you interpret it. She placed faith in her husband's life's work--faith in her own tireless research--and in the end--she paid the price for it.

9:18 I think the main reason he doesnt attack Clover but Frisk is because Clover doesnt have enough determination to beat Flowey so he can just mess up with the timeline but when Frisk arrived they had a more determined soul meaning they were the one in control and Flowey wasnt and since he wanted to have control back he takes the chance of Frisk being new to the underground and tries to kill them

So basically, tl;dr: it's a really good fan game, but it also very much just a fan game. Yeah thats a fair assessment i'd say

while I agree with most of the complaints, I do have to point out that comparing Ceroba's first attack to Undyne's isn't really a fair comparison when Sans' first attack is right there and does pretty much the same thing

This is the best Side of Salt I’ve ever seen. Truly a clear step in quality and I’m glad Scott is able to finally cook with an actual team to really make this video exude charm

6:56 Muffet thinks she's on the team LMFAOOOOOOOO

One thing that i felt while playing is that you get stuck in the Wild East area for wayyyy too long, while in the original Undertale you are always on the move one area to the next

I will say I’m a huge fan of the endure option in the final fight of genocide. Makes it feel less like the sans fight where both of you are avoiding each others attacks and more like you’re both beating the fuck out of eachother and could collapse any moment!

I feel like the difficulty of Undertale Yellow comes from it thinking that you already DO know how Undertale's harder fights work, therefor it can be less lenient on the bosses With that being said, some fights do seem a bit less playtested than others, mainly the final pacifist boss

I WAHNA BE A SOUP-ER HE-WOH... -"innocent child moments before disaster"

I can't say I fully agree with all of your points (Ceroba may or may not be my favorite character and I really don't see as many issues with her place in the story) BUT props to you for being respectful about it! Undertale Yellow was an amazing experience to me and I can't wait to see in what ways things go with UT fanprojects from now on. also play Neutral it's actually really worth it for this one lol

9:29 BOTH routes?? You should play a neutral one, it's pretty good.

10:03 That footage triggered PTSD from trying to get into Dr. Andonuts' machine (Earthbound on NSO). I spent _minutes_ walking into it, away from it, into it, before it randomly worked.

I was so hoping you'd do one on Yellow. People outside of the usual fandom must know about this!

We got Library of Ruina OST and sound effects. Shoutouts to the editor for having excellent taste and doing a great job.

8:33 To quote flowey for this “You’re an idiot”

This is the most level headed and fair review of Undertale Yellow I have seen. I feel heard. Thanks lol

Ayo don’t do my boy green sans dirty. He’s the first fan game to actually be good.

I really could not agree more with the whole "throw as much bullshit all at once at a player and pollute their entire screen with danger is not fun or good game design" like some game devs really need to hear that there is a difference between difficulty, and just pure bullshit

MY MAN SHE'S A VENDING MACHINE

Awesome video! Probably my favorite fan-game I've played to date honestly. It's a breath of fresh air finally hearing someone point out a certain bird character having a bit too much dialogue though lol.

The animated segment made me smile

You're gonna make me go for a run, battle against a true hero is absolutely my work out jam

For his neutral special, he wields a gun.

I've only played the Pacifist Run so far, and the only complaint I had was that I didn't get the armor before moving onto the final city area, realized that Ceroba's tougher than I thought, then tried to go back to get the armor. Except I didn't have enough money. And there were no monster encounters to get money. And I couldn't sell anything. So I was essentially stuck with the lower-powered armor during the fight and it made things REALLY difficult. I think that if you're gonna have it possible to go back to a shop to get supplies, you should have a way to get money to GET said supplies. That's my main gripe, at least

Can definitely see the issues you have with some of the bosses and their “average undertale fangame” attacks, but I think it works as an evolution of what undertale had going with its battle system. And as an aspiring game designer I totally get wanting to make fights more complex because the battle system of Toby fox games allows for *so* much creativity. And sidenote, I’m guessing some of the problems with cerobas America fuck yeah route fight stem from doing that route first, but then again since it’s a fangame some people were bound to do it first anyway. Good video in general though

I’m glad he reviewed this Game, pretty awesome stuff only feels like Scott looks at it

Scott... I heard library of ruina music Scott.... You gotta cover that now Scott.... Or else the sleeper agents are gonna come for you Scott...

This definitely does the game justice. You go over pretty much everything I feel you had to. Very fun game, I would play for a 6th time.

It’s impressive that this game managed to be complete after 7 years of development. I read this one fanfic that detailed a setup to a fight against a still alive Clover in Undertale’s genocide route. Knowing how Genocide ended in Yellow, I could definitely imagine the genocide route becoming impossible. Like Clover just injects themself with some determination that Martlet gave them and taking the player’s ability to save as their LV increases out of anger towards the loss of innocent monsters and you’re forced to fight another human. 0:43 Regarding that, I’d recommend Undertoad: Mission Luigi which has a whole segment where get to Luigi before fighting him and it’s not because you go through the Snowdin equivalent in fact you start in Sherberough, the equivalent of Snowdin Town and you have to climb up an obstacle course before getting to Luigi. Sure it’s an AU but Undertoad is one of the best Undertale AU’s since it explores how the Mario cast would handle being in a similar situation to the monsters of Undertale.

Scott, if this is your last video of the year I wanna say that you animated this one really good and you should keep this type of animation for next year.

My only gripe with your mention of the Geno vers of the Ceroba boss fight not introducing you into the mechanics is that In Pacifist (the presumed route that most people will play first) Ceroba's fight starts out slowly introducing the mechanics you get thrown at you during her Geno fight. It is believed that most people play either the Neutral or Pacifist Route(s) first- esp since Geno requires specific actions and choices, which potentially explains the issue you had.

8:13 The serum was incomplete, she should use it in a Boss Monster, not anyone else

8:39 while of course everyone in fangames/creations are 'fanfics' or 'ocs', theres a way to design the characters without it so painfully feeling like something out of a fanfic or some cringe oc.

What's funny is that he sadly didn't get to talk about the neutral route (or hasn't play it yet) when it is the route where there is 0 Ceroba involved.

Nice to finally find a review of the game that isn’t just sugarcoated praise or harsh criticism. A fine chemical balance of the Good and What Could Be Better. Will definitely give the game a whirl! Thanks mate!

“I had a gun” Ngl that’s extremely real I used my gun to cause talk when you have a revolver

Ceroba's a grieving widow who is blinded by a foolish pursuit of chasing what her idea of her husband's legacy is. Combine that with the general oppression of living in the underground and I can see why she would be swayed by Kanako, seeing as she is the only known boss monster other than the royal family. I know firsthand that widows/widowers don't always make rational decisions involving their kids. Lived it with my dad.

“The sheer power if rage overtook a trash can lid” so true

this is so good not just for a fan game i love this

You know, I'm already seeing a lot of challenge simps defending the difficulty level of fan games. Let me tell you why it sucks ass. When Undertale came out, I was already losing movement and strength in my hands and fingers. A few years later, I had to give up being a musician because I could not move my stiff fingers that fast anymore. Fast forward to now: My wrists and fingers hurt constantly. I can't do much about it except talk to more and more doctors, trying to figure out what the hell is going on. I am not even 25 yet. Many gamers are not mechanical geniuses. Some gamers, like me, are disabled. I cannot tell you how soul-crushing it is to have to give up your childhood dreams because your body is steadily decaying before you've even reached your prime. Some of us don't want to give up video games. God knows I couldn't live without Skyrim. The problem with fan games upping the difficulty is that it shuns other passionate gamers who just aren't that great at video games. At the very least, they could include a normal difficulty mode. I love Undertale to death (even after the internet kinda ruined it for me), but just because I love Undertale doesn't mean I love having my hands cramp. I love Undertale for its story and its unique characters and for the passion that was put into this game... not for the f*cking difficulty level of the Sans fight.

I like how when he’s showing the generic sans fight games, he shows G R E E N S A N S

9:53 And here we see Flowey taking a bite out of Clover's massive noggin.

Your issue with boss difficulty probably was because you started with Genocide. You get introduced to most of Ceroba's mechanics during Pacifist except for the walls doing damage too and the attacks

4:00 that first attack introduces every single mechanic in the fight and is also pretty easy to dodge, the whole attack besides maybe the diamond attack for the player's first attempt is just easily dodgeable attacks that are neither unpredictable, absurdly fast nor cover the whole screen, I'd say it's a good introduction to the fight AND it also highlights the sheer amount of Rage that Ceroba is going through after you kill Starlo by having her attack before your turn, adding even more emotion than there already is to the whole fight whilst still keeping the introduction to her attacks

I HEARD THAT! I HEARD THAT HALF SECOND OF LIBRARY OF RUINA MUSIC! YOU CANNOT FOOL ME!

0:09 Pokémon uranium.. 🥲

When it comes to the Genocide fights, I think they forgot that Sans isn’t the only Genocide boss. Sans doesn’t introduce you to his attacks right off the bat. You’re meant to die maybe once or twice to that first attack. Even then, his other attacks start simpler with his mechanics and patterns, then they speed said patterns up and adds complexity. Undyne the undying isn’t like that. However, the UT:Y Genocide bosses are like that. And that’s a problem, especially when the game is for people who played Undertale who would now potentially be inclined to go straight to Genocide before doing the route where you can actually learn Ceroba’s mechanics at a reasonable rate. (The final gets an exception, because you did actually technically fight them before.)

remember playing the demo wayback and completely forgot this existed. such a treat that it came fully into fruition. if a dev reads this, tysm for you do. "romhack" makers give me so much nostalgia nd yall really do the lords work bringing fresh gameplay to revisit in these beloved worlds. Shit feels like Christmas when i discover something like this

I do disagree on the "combats feel unplaytested" If you go into undertale and play the genocide route on your first playthrough, your FIRST REAL FIGHT is undyne and then your second one is sans. If your first fight is undyne, the 3 first arrows aren't introducing anything meaningful to you, the player because you're gonna get curbstomped anyways. And let's not talk about Sans' first attack or the fact in genocide that's your first inteoduction of the Blue heart mechanic too. Even in Undertale there was an argument to be made that the game was expecting you to go through the game normally first. So a fangame very very likely expects the player to be at least somewhat familliar with the difficulty... Also that first attack from touhou fox is really not that bad, and all her main attacks are presented in it without killing you outright. I just don't see how that's unfair, especially to the point of comparing it to bullshit generic sans fight N°154.

Surprised you covered this one!

i think undertale yellow is made for people who already played undertale and able to play, like a challenge for experienced players

First L Corp being slightly referenced in the Lethal Company video, and now we have- ORLANDO FURIOSO. I HAVE NOTHING BUT MY SORROW AND I WANT NOTHING MORE. THAT'S THAT AND THIS IS THIS.