Unfiltered | Was CODESA agreement fair for all? 18 July 2023 

I've realized that we are forgiving people who didn't ask for forgiveness

The questions that need to be asked and answered. We were sold out, no two ways about it. We need to revisit every single agreement.

Our struggle was for land, it has always been about our land" mama Nomzamo Madikizela told us this until she went into her grave

We need the minutes of CODESA before it's too late

Which privileges did the oppressor give away?

Why would the panel only include 'architects' of that Codesa and not the demographic that is affected by that agreement?

An Economical CODESA is a great idea!!

When the land oa SA was seized,there was no negotiations and concessions. That's where the problems started. Till this day, still taking concessions and destroying one another

We need another CODESA!in 2024!

A certain old man in UK once said, "Madiba took us this far, now It's our responsibility to take over to the finish line

ONLY the EFF can overcome the land problem which will most likely lead to equality

Sizwe will be dismissed after this show.😐. WMC...

Thanks to all for showing up and sharing their views. and yes we need this conversation as the nation.

There's a growing need to review the Grooteschur,Victor Venter, and Codesa minutes

1990 / 1991 / 1992 CODESA 1 & 2 Multi Party Negotiating Forum ( MPNF ) Agreement Or Deal It Was A Compromise , Sell Out , So Called Transition And 34 Years Empty Promises Under Government Of National Unity ( GNU ) ANC Led Government Till Present Till Present. NB : Not Yet Uhuru.

They picked the best person to conduct this interview, sizwe did his research🤝

Who compromised the most during those CODESA negotiations. If the far right and the far left parties didn't partake in the negotiations why were they called multiparty negotiations?

Negotiations were not needed. We were supposed to take back what belonged to us the same way the Europeans did.

Who is in possession of, or has custody of, the historical records for the CODESA negotiations? In what form does it exist? Does it exist in more than one part? Someone should write a book based on the historical records.

We are still due a conflagration, it can be deferred, yes, but it eventually will happen. No two ways about that.

He who owns the means of production, controls the world....

Hmmmm im starting a Revolution with my influences for an economic codesa ,since we are now Blacks that are educated, we cud bring Change and justice, not these fallen angels Government we have.

Nelson Mandela is the most celebrated human to this racists

Here we have taken significant strides toward emanicipating ourselves from the Nato/USA conquest, this one domestic conquest can be undone as well,only if we show some backbone

Can the public be furnished with the minutes of those negotiations? Plse

What were the actual aims of the Codesa in abolishing apartheid complete, which was what the South African people were expecting to happen. Yes, the question of land distribution was very important, but it did not happen to date. Since the ANC was in power, S.A. people were watching the changes which they expected changes to them were happening or not. It was not going to be easy for the ANC to achieve what the people wanted to be changed. The people were the only people who knew what areas needed changes, as they were the ones who were still feeling the pinch. After people like Julius Malema and the gang, who started to realise and to listen and experiencing those daily complaints, as they were mingling a lot with the community, they realised that what ANC was trying to do for the nation was not even close to what the nation was expecting, as the corruption was gradually starting to show up evenmore. As the corruption was getting deeper and deeper, through Julius Malema and some of his friends noticed what the nation was complaining about it affects their families as well. That was where Julius and those guys started to think as to what are they going to do about that, as they start to rebel against the ANC. Please guys, don't take me wrong if i say that Julius might have been benefiting from what ANC was doing, but because his family and many of his friends were affected by that unstoppable corruption was doing to the nation. After Julius and his gang had figured out as to how they can try to expose the corruption. That's when they decided to form their party. As most of the people's complaints were the countries resources, yes the resources were there, but still not equally distributed, as the ANC and their families didn't affected by that, as they are in government. If the distribution was changed, it was only in their families because of its corruption.

why is another coutries law applicable in s.a

After spending how much time? of how much sentence he was given? The man was given a life sentence and nothind less or more, slip of the tongue

The Question should be" Did CODESA leave the Governing Party with enough resources to govern, if so can we list them!

we need a NATIONAL DIALOUGE

After Codesa we had 5% growth and along came Zuma and corruption, if SA continued growing at 5% we would not be were we are.

You can see that it most, duh! it only favour connected political ppl. ANC flopped after Mbeki. now it's just old ppl getting fat... then sleep well with full stomach literally. We lost of fathers and mothers during struggle for nothing. Chris Hani was right. I hate ANC with passion.

Our negotiated settlement was truly a victory to transition power to the oppressed. It was never gonna resolve poverty, inequality, racism, etc... we needed govt programs to resolve those... and we failed

Who failed then?

1990 / 1991 / 1992 CODESA 1 & 2 Multi Party Negotiating Forum ( MPNF ) Agreement Or Deal Was Not Fair To All Africans Azanians Citizens Communities People , Corruption , Criminality And Fraud Has Been Highly Defended Or Protected At All Cost Under ANC Government Till Present. NB : Not Yet Uhuru.

Did we use theHarare declaration as a cornerstone in those negotiations

I've learn nothing New from the guests.... clearly south Africa is doomed we have people Dilly dalling on land issue and transformation.

When the host mentioned the word Parlo Jordan, it's a turn off by the host. Parlo Jordan is a disgraced fake doctor. I just stopped watching the video

Lol the reality is ANC is hurtless and they could take pressure more than all other parties. I honestly feel sorry for PAC the leadership of PAC was bit soft and couldn't contain pressure.

Sad

Dr Jordan

Another problem is SABC bringing wrong people to the show, these old men on the screen are talking Rubbish

We want Cyril Ramaphosa to come and answer here infront of the national tv

If they had messed with property rights more than they have it would have left the country in ruin

Listen call a scholar like Pro Lumu mba of kenya .and pan africanist from zambia to discuss this

How did these traitors get acsess to your office? surley this is illegal?

Fake Qualifications Joordan kwaaaaa that's why we sold out

Can we see sunset closes to be answerable to your question

In order to forgive we need land🤗

It is patently clear we shall not achieve Uhuru under the tutelage of politicians. You, yes you, must seize freedom individually without the politician or waiting on others who are not as intellectually lethargic as you are.

It all depends who you ask

The narrator🚩🚩🚩

your content seems scripted and never actually asking the hard hitting question always beating around the bush

Where does compensation came from as the Khoisan/coloured was the prime owners of SA.

Single player, 30yrs ...ANC.

I sometimes wish I was part of the cohort that sold you out, there is practically zero consequences for selling black people out save an unseemly bronze statue or two in affluent suburbs.

Robin Carlyle's defensiveness in response to Ntate Jordan's clarification on Mandela's role in CODESA. 😂