That woman rite there, Jean Peters Baker is a major contributer to the crime problem. The police arrest criminals, and she almost immediately lets them back out onto the streets, in turn the commit violent crimes over and over. I m a KC native who works in the hood, soo i know exactly what im talking about. She should be held accountable and also should serve jail/prison time for what she has allowed. She has blood on her hands.
@@jaycee30865 Are you talking about Quinton Lucas? All he cares about is himself, the Chiefs, and making it to Washington. He has done nothing for the black/brown community. I work in the hood and I see what's really going on. He is a $hitty mayor when you get down to the nitty gritty.
“47 million dollars is not actually a lot if you compare it to the full police budget, the full budget of of Kansas City. And we’re asking for just a percentage of accountability. A percentage of accountability to make sure that we can do what the people have asked us to do. Represent their interests and make sure that we’re looking out for them. Make sure that we’re listening to black and brown voices and make sure that when we look to solutions to violent crime they’re solutions the people in Kansas City, that taxpayers of Kansas City, that citizens of Kansas City, have voted to support.” -Quentin Lucas
Its 1st degree murder. My son was at the parade. He didnt take his gun. He took video. This city is dangerous because prosecuters are soft on crime. She has to go and give the shooters a hug.
@@FaeicIDguns kill people. You got it wrong. If there are no guns then this wouldn't have happen. Guns kill. Can't blame it all on the person bc there are both good and bad people that have guns
@@FaeicIDpeople who immediately pull out their guns in anger and shoot are responsible. It's not just criminals we have to worry about anymore. We have to worry about people who overreact and pull a gun and don't care if others are hurt in the process. Angry people with guns did kill someone and injured people including children. I am a gun owner and took a handgun class. The man is a navel vet w&o patrolled the Indian Ocean looking for pirates. He knows his stuff. The first hour of the class was on being responsible for your firearm and safety. We discussed if you pull your weapon if you life is in danger, you still need to be aware of who is around you before you fire, if there are people around you. Being angry during a verbal argument not the frame of mind one should have when pulling your firearm. I feel anyone buying a gun take a clss. There are too many people carrying who aren't responsible enough. People pull out their guns during road rage. It is just too easy for people to shoot over something stupid.
Adults......started the shooting, shoots fired in Union Station. Parking garage, there's a teen fighting for his life...y'all not talking about a good teen. Hold all adults accountable
People don't just laugh at things that they think are funny. This is a stressful situation and people sometimes have trouble coping with it. Coping mechanisms are hard for a lot of people to understand. It's a subconscious thing. It's not done deliberately and the person affected often can't stop it. She is definitely not thinking that this is funny.
5:04 "And you're going to have questions." Why is she smiling? Person died. People shot including children. An entire city, country traumatized. She is demented.
She is happy her face is in the national news. Prosecutors all aspire to climb the political ladder. This is her big break! She can espouse to the uninformed that she was tough on crime back when she was a prosecuter! Hear it all the time in political speeches!
@@Bullrider33OutdoorsIt’s possible the juveniles weren’t involved in actually firing guns & simply face charges for unlawful possession. If so, likely a misdemeanor that would stay in juvenile court.
Immigration status of those detained? Hey Mayor Lucas how about you instruct KCPD to infiltrate drug gangs in East KC and go after some of these illegal firearms that are on our streets. I am not worried about my neighbors gun, but I am woried about juvelines with illegal guns. You have done very little to get these illegal guns off the streets.
The suspects are fortunate they committed their crimes in Jackson County, MO because Jean Peters-Baker gives some of the sweetest plea deals in the state of Missouri. My only surprise is she didn't request ROR bonds for them.
@@doubledforge I get what you're saying, but the fact that they're also looking for people who were injured trying to get away tells me she's going to throw the book at them.
I’ve been unfortunate enough to have been ensnared in Kansas City’s prosecution ring some years back with Baker amidst the fiasco that led to a ‘non-case’ a year after the incident. Not a fan.
A 2nd degree murder conviction ends your life as far as living it. You’ll never work again, nobody will ever want to be around you again. Stop underselling how brutal 18 years in prison would be.
@@tarynbrent1 What is your perception of the thousands of others who brought guns to the parade? Were they also premeditating a crime or were they “good guys” who were thinking of self-defense? After all, the guy (Miller) whose gun was linked to the woman’s death was not the first to pull out his weapon. It was the other guy, who was pointing a gun at Miller & his friends. So, could a case be made for self-defense?
Two hand guns? The audio sounded more like automatic rifle fire. And that rifle dropped by the tackled guy (with the large mag) was no hand gun. Should be more to the story.
They can't justify new laws that only effect law abiding citizens if the shooter's are under age and cannot legally own or possess a firearm. Waiting period, background checks, red flag laws canceled carry permits are all irrelevant to an individual that cannot own or possess a firearm.
@@kingborg4343 Oh really? Then what about the Kyle Rittenhauer case and the the Slender Man case where 2 12 year olds tried to murder another 12 year old. They were all plastered all around the media.
Quentin Lucas has to feel uncomfortable up there speaking, especially after he sued the state of Missouri to cut the KCMO police department by 20 percent.
“47 million dollars is not actually a lot if you compare it to the full police budget, the full budget of of Kansas City. And we’re asking for just a percentage of accountability. A percentage of accountability to make sure that we can do what the people have asked us to do. Represent their interests and make sure that we’re looking out for them. Make sure that we’re listening to black and brown voices and make sure that when we look to solutions to violent crime they’re solutions the people in Kansas City, that taxpayers of Kansas City, that citizens of Kansas City, have voted to support.” -Quentin Lucas
“47 million dollars is not actually a lot if you compare it to the full police budget, the full budget of of Kansas City. And we’re asking for just a percentage of accountability. A percentage of accountability to make sure that we can do what the people have asked us to do. Represent their interests and make sure that we’re looking out for them. Make sure that we’re listening to black and brown voices and make sure that when we look to solutions to violent crime they’re solutions the people in Kansas City, that taxpayers of Kansas City, that citizens of Kansas City, have voted to support.” -Quentin Lucas
A Canadian here, forgive me for not knowing the laws in the US…. How can two individuals be charged for the shooting of one person? Obviously two people didn’t have their finger on the trigger of the same gun..
So 2 adults are being charged but they still haven’t said what the 2 juveniles are being charged. Right? So right now they have 4 in custody and looking at others to bring in. I don’t understand the secrecy and protection for these thugs.
Let me explain as best I can: 1) Shooting occurs; 2) Suspect dead or in custody; 3) If not white, go-to (12) ------v [If white continue] 4) Post name and picture; 5) Claim the shooter was a right-wing extremist; 6) Frantically search for what right wing groups shooter belonged to; 7) If you find out the shooter was actually NOT right-wing, go-to (12) -----v ---‐--------------------- [ONLY IF by some crazy 0.0000000001 chance the shooter is a white, Christian male who votes Republican] 8) Put white person's name on blast, dox his family to his 3rd cousin; 9) Blame "right wing gun nuts" for supporting the 2A; 10) Keep bringing up the one in a million white, "radical right-wing" shooter every election cycle; 11) Goto (9) ----^ ------------------- 12) Blame "right-wing extremist gun nuts" for supporting the 2A; 13) Blame society for slavery, systemic racism, and hatred from "right-wing extremist,rich, white, Christian, conservatives;" 14) Blame guns and call for the ban of all firearms -- except black powder muskets, [because that's the only guns the forefathers knew about and we want to sound like we support the Constitution even though we try to undermine it every day -- don't say this quiet part out loud]; 15) Sweep it under the rug; 16) Say "what about...."; 17) Go to (8) --------^ So you want to learn how to code? That is a simple "if/then" basic code I learned back in 8th grade on Apple II computers. That's seriously the entire depth of Liberal cognition. 17 lines of basic computer programming. So who is "racist?" The people who can observe the pattern and decipher the code when names and pictures are withheld? Or the people who wrote the code to protect a certain race? [HINT FOR LIBERALS: it's the second one and crayons are not good for your digestive system.]
There has been no secrecy/protection for the 2 adults. Yes, there are different rules in Missouri for the two juveniles, unless it is decided to charge them as adults. As for “thugs,” if you’re using that term as code for “blacks,” I think you might be surprised when the mug shot of Dominic Miller is released.
@@janicedeknock2701 thug is code for gun addicts who use guns for minor disagreements, no matter their color. I'm surprised you didn't know this already.
“47 million dollars is not actually a lot if you compare it to the full police budget, the full budget of of Kansas City. And we’re asking for just a percentage of accountability. A percentage of accountability to make sure that we can do what the people have asked us to do. Represent their interests and make sure that we’re looking out for them. Make sure that we’re listening to black and brown voices and make sure that when we look to solutions to violent crime they’re solutions the people in Kansas City, that taxpayers of Kansas City, that citizens of Kansas City, have voted to support.” -Quentin Lucas
The people who spoke in this update were in charge while KCMO set a record for homicides in 2023. There were eight homicides in KC during the week of the Chiefs celebration and I don't think there are any aprehensions or charges after the Crown Center shootings a short time ago.
I live in KCMO. Most people I talk to have apprehension going to any event with a large crowd or at night because of the shootings. Yes, there was almost 200 homicides last year, sadly that statistic doesn't include how many shooting victims that survived! That's one number I'd like to know. I live in a "safer area" on KCMO and hear gun shots including automatic gunfire almost every night. Most I talked to weren't too worried about the Chief rally, including myself because I was thinking most everyone would be there just to celebrate and everyone was just super happy. It was actually magical and in a few seconds, it became a nightmare. The DA just did an interview on TV last night about the Crown Center Shootings, they're not just letting it go.
“47 million dollars is not actually a lot if you compare it to the full police budget, the full budget of of Kansas City. And we’re asking for just a percentage of accountability. A percentage of accountability to make sure that we can do what the people have asked us to do. Represent their interests and make sure that we’re looking out for them. Make sure that we’re listening to black and brown voices and make sure that when we look to solutions to violent crime they’re solutions the people in Kansas City, that taxpayers of Kansas City, that citizens of Kansas City, have voted to support.” -Quentin Lucas
Just more lip service and these people patting themselves on the backs. We all know what it is... Fatherless behavior. Thugs being thugs. But hey we cant say that because the truth is OFFENSIVE. RELEASE ALL THE NAMES OF ALL THE SUSPECTS.
@@spencermcalpine8021 the mainstream media didn't give a shit about releasing Kyle Rittenhouse's name when he was a juvenile, AND HE DEFENDED HIMSELF. GTFO with this bullshit.
“47 million dollars is not actually a lot if you compare it to the full police budget, the full budget of of Kansas City. And we’re asking for just a percentage of accountability. A percentage of accountability to make sure that we can do what the people have asked us to do. Represent their interests and make sure that we’re looking out for them. Make sure that we’re listening to black and brown voices and make sure that when we look to solutions to violent crime they’re solutions the people in Kansas City, that taxpayers of Kansas City, that citizens of Kansas City, have voted to support.” -Quentin Lucas
What was that semi automatic gun shown in pictures? We all saw the video and pictures of it behind the police and near the detained juveniles! WHY THE SECRECY?!?
The AR pistol? Almost all guns are semiautomatic now. All pistols. It is nothing new. Neither is this group’s rate of homicide. Table 43, table 21a, pew research. It’s the people not the guns and they prove it.
I will bet a chocolate donut. This is gang related. Or worse. I'm heartbroken for the families. Especially the young mother. God be with them all. ❤❤❤❤❤
My body is literally trying to send out peaceful and comforting energy to everyone who has been hurt both physically and mentally in this horrible event . On side note, I felt the smiles and laughs were out of place by this woman, but I don't blame her because she even said it, this is not her place/space. She would rather be doing the investigating and giving the victims justice. So I can forgive the nervous smiles and laughter, because I'm hoping she'll put these men and others behind bars for a long time. Not that I like the idea of prison but I do believe in paying for your crimes that you commit. Peace be with you all. 🙏
2 adults with two handguns. 2 juveniles with more than handguns. SOFT PROSECUTOR = NO ACCOUNTABILITY. Why?!? Shouldn’t a prosecutor…. prosecute??? Just like a certain person can’t secure the border. We are a country of laws. if you are in the justice department, then you should be enforcing them What about juveniles now??? by the way stop smiling. It’s disgusting and unprofessional.
This video sheds some light on what happened here, and the reason for the cover up: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-30KhKAdzXpw.html. I worked max/close security prisons for nearly 2 decades and had a lot of encounters with these types of gangsters. Back then it was primarily the Bloods, Crips, and Black Gangster Disciples that ran the black gangs. Would they be trying to protect the identity of these juveniles, turned adults, if they were white Neo-Nazis, Hell's Angels ? And now that they're adults, why no pictures? We issued major infractions, with lock up in seg for non-compliance, for inmates sagging their pants like the kid in the above stated video. An STG(security threat group)gang sign commonly used by black and hispanic gangs!
Circumstances presumably. 1st degree is generally planned, premeditated. 2nd degree is unplanned intentional killing/causing death as the result of reckless disregard for human life. There's not really a path to convicting for first degree just based on how it unfolded. They didn't know each other, nor did they know the victim, so it's really hard to prove they intended to specifically kill her versus them being able to prove a reckless disregard for human life.
I was jury foreman on a drive by shooting. Two gang members shooting into a group of another. 14 year old boy took a bullet in the head. They couldn't prove intent on killing that specific person so he was charged with second degree. Over twenty years ago in KC. The judge urged us to find him not guilty as opposed to a hung jury because the court was too busy to try it again. The defense played the race card even though the shooter and victim were the same. We hung the jury because the race card had been played and certain jurors were unwilling to convict the shooter because of his race. He was retired and got six years. That's what these two will probably get. Some sketchy criminal defense lawyer will no doubt paint them as victims. Experience tends to make one cynical.
Here we go again. Always something to keep us outraged and fearful. Not soft peddling but c'mon....KC, Burnsville, this, that and another..EVERYDAY! Something other than the obvious is lurking. Just saying.
Can someone help me out here? Show me used to tell me what I'm getting from what she's saying that both people got charged I think the one that pulled out the gun first should be getting charged or the person that was threatening the other person's life should be getting charged. What people can't protect themselves anymore in Missouri?
I did read a little more as I havent dug deeper and i do see that now they are saying 2 men were arrested after 2 juveniles were arrested in relation. Thank you for that info cause ill dive a little deeper on the matter. @@davids.2703
They do not need them! Only honest people follow laws! Criminals laugh at your silly laws! There fore you can not make any society safer by legislation, the world never was nor will ever be a safe place. Just like your feel good laws like gun free school zones. Civil law abiding people will not show up with a gun there. Criminals or deranged people see that as a place where they can murder the most people and have no worry about arms citizens shooting back at them! Seriously do you think a sign or a law is going to disuade them from doing what they want?? These are political feel safe laws meant to do nothing more than gain votes!
I was impressed by Ms Baker and the Police Chief and Mayor for their consistent and dedicated approach to abide by the most careful adherence to the rule of law and discovery. It appears from comments further down this page that few seem to understand that all facts cannot be present as immediately as our 24/7 society would like. This extraordinary situation will take time to unfold, reveal and in perfect ways and in perfect timing, find resolution and justice.
First question: HOW MANY different shooters were there? Now many different pistol cartridges were identified? and are these people associated with gangs?... and she pulled a Kamala and laughed about how long (a couple of years) this might take?... that press conference was fairly useless...
So the killer are young I thought ore they are adults now in the act of someone loosing there life the seek life without parole when it should be death row if this was Texas those killers would be on death row where they belong
Why is she smiling? Why is Mahomes and his wife smiling at the hospital? WTF do we have a city of thugs with a team that takes after the thugs when things don't go their way. Viral tantrums and ejections from their 3 biggest stars.
I'm not getting 2nd Degree, why? Why was a bail even set. Why not a slew of attempted murder charges. KC has become alot more liberal since I left in '88.