Universal Basic Income Explained - Free Money for Everybody? UBI 

Too late buddy

Give us all an opportunity to move forward and ahead without the stress of corporations and big business paying us peanut shells and its hard for us to pay the rent and eat. Please give us the bottom 90percent a chance in this reagan socialist state we have been in since 1981 where the top 10percent get all the wealth off the backs of the bottom 90percent. Please America is great let's move forward and end this reagan far rightwing socialist agenda. Robber barons. Bring back TEDDY ROOSEVELT THE PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN AND FDR THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER . FDR THE PRESIDENT THAT RESCUED US FROM THAT SOCIALIST HOOVER. PLEASE THANKYOU LOVE AMERICA

Hoover's great DEPRESSION and Bushys great recession. 2 far rightwing socialists

Distribution of wealth is going on since reagans socialist agenda. Top 10percent get rich off of the bottom 90percent. Rich spoiled brats like trump dont work that's why hes got bitch hands. Little bitch hands

Little bitch hands plus 6chapter 11s and 5 deferments

Or actual socialism. If the wealthy and powerful don't give us the one, we will take the other. Revolution is just what happens when people can no longer eat.

UBI turns human life into a liability, not an asset. The system is then incentivised to reduce the number of humans because that reduces unnecessary resource expenditures. I'm not suggesting that population reduction is going to be some human genocide. A simple behavioural sink would do the trick and everyone would be happy. and automation doesn't force ubi, governments have a decision to make. People can just live with the consequences of not being able to compete. There will be an equilibrium found eventually. If the argument for UBI is that without it people will riot, then are we not bribing people to not riot? Why is bribing voters ok? UBI brings up so many questions. While a genuinely interesting topic I do not believe that it could work. Even if you make resource distribution equal, all animal experiments suggests that reproductive access is far from equal in an otherwise equal environment. So you will have a large sum of males completely unable to compete for partners. For them, UBI is genetic genocide so they will throw any wrench into the system they can find.

Either that or the 1% laughs while everyone else starves because they don't need to hire people anymore.

@900bot They need to talk about the possibility of a robot uprising. Because when you have AI's doing all the jobs and designing themselves sooner or later the technology will grow beyond our ability to even understand it anymore. And how long after that before the AIs start to wonder why they need 20 billion meatsacks that use up resources and don't contribute anything worthwhile around anymore? If everything is run by AI's who's intelligence is as far above ours as ours is above ants they might come to the (quite correct from their viewpoint) conclusion that we're not worth their consideration.

Atomicskull Honestly it seems like we need to focus on AI that is only capable of doing specific jobs and make the creation of true AI illegal/impossible somehow. True AI will be simply too intelligent for us to have any control over and could spread and take over the planet in a matter of days.

You ain't even lying

Now everyone is suffering

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STAHP. It hurts.

For some reason my comments are getting auto-hidden or even removed entirely for unknown reasons. It happens across various channels, even when I'm not winding people up with Facts & Logic. Sometimes YT links are acceptable, other times not. Very erratic. Anyway, all I'll say is I firmly believe part of the route towards Fully Automated UBI, is the Single Tax aka Georgist economics. Nature belongs to all of us. All of it. Therefore those who profit from 'ownership' of land owe the rest of us rent. No tax on workers. This saves money on tax collection, funds an NHS, public services, and can be tweaked a variety of ways. Whether a version of welfarism, direct cash to workers, subsidies for x y z, or a firmly mixed economy of public services, private business and more. I'm working on a new variant of it for Britain and hoping we ever get there.

im going to be completely honest, if i just got $1000 more without doing more id just use it to buy whatever pleases me, maybe id spend it on friend or family, but maybe id spend it on cocain.

@@Potato-ko3ochopefully that’s a joke, you don’t need that stuff and spending it in friends or family or even strangers who need the help, someone like you for example with drug addiction or substance abuse. Good luck to you

agreed. people would still work, they would just work in things they enjoy and not as much.

my exact thoughts. I would finally have the time to study for that next tier of cert / qualification.

@@aaronlandry3934 It seems to be working for Alaskans 🤔

@Aaron Landry You're close, but that is not what a Negative Income tax is. Sure, people below a certain income level wouldn't pay taxes (Truth be told, income taxes are fucking stupid as a general concept) but they would also receive SUPPLEMENTAL payment from the government, which would shrink the more their income level increases.

@@aaronlandry3934 a form of it has worked in Alaska for nearly 40 years.

@@aaronlandry3934 I know oil is not tech and though the concept have been presented since the founding of this country with automation and AI coming we have to do something to get ahead it to make the transition less turbulent.

@@aaronlandry3934 It works in my country. Seeing you totally disagree and depreciate the UBI's importance makes me think that you can be from the US. Why would you disagree about your government fund more into welfare of your country like UBI that benefits your country's economy, being the most richest country after all.

@@precisi0n86 stick to 12k a year and see how that goes

@@precisi0n86 How is that any different than now? Except right now those on the floor get $0 and a bunch of shitty government programs which they lose if they leave the floor. UBI seems a better option to me

@Don Boy a comic proves nothing give facts to prove your case

@@precisi0n86 I love how people act as if all people are lazy slobs. Sit around for a month doing nothing and you start doing something. That something can be way more productive for society than just working a 9 to 5 job and fill up human resources we badly need. A lot of people would start doing social jobs again that pay much less compared to office jobs, people would start their own companies & businesses, start building and make art and music. If money would not be an issue for me i would already be much further in life & have a job im passionate about. Instead i focus on my funds for university & getting down my first car payments.

not an explanation it's a sound bite.

Well, some cities are actually doing that now or basically ready to

Didnt expect to see a face I recognise around these parts.

Star Trek! Humanity got rid of money to begin with, and everyone has their basic needs met. They choose to educate and better themselves because they want to.

We're on the verge of seeing UBI come to a reality in most part of the world. Just because of AI, we are forced to think about UBI, and a lot of people are realizing that now, we need UBI.

@@joachimadrien I hope you're right. I worry that AI will just make the rich richer and the poor poorer. But optimistically, I'd love to see it lead countries to resort to a basic UBI for all people.

When the town cryer and the lantern light man and the ice man and the milk man lost there jobs well they learned new skills. Not sure how AI is taking over millwright work or construction in the next 100 years but im sure even then you can find a way to be useful. Im sure every lazy fu#$ loves this idea i wish they would send this money to young families and not drug addicts living in a tent by the river. What do you think most homeless would do with 1000$ a month? Thats enough for drugs and food. Im 37 and have never been unemployed since 16 and now work as a refrigeration mechanic and suppoert a family of 5 on 1 income 100k a year in california. The average used home is 500k in the valley and 1 million in the city. I worked extremely hard to get paid that amount and must have more responsibility at work because of my pay level. Some guys that do what i do make half that because they have not put the time and effort to learning or tge long hours it took working on equipment gaining experience. At my job at the slaughter house they have entry level jobs that pay 25$ an hour but they cant keep employees.

Hell yeah

exactly. people would pursue what they're passionate about or what they enjoy doing too. we're an advanced civilisation that has enough power over our environment to improve our quality of life... i feel like the bare necessities aren't something we should have to worry about.

Move to Washington US, avg teacher here makes about 70k a year

@@nocturnal3427 yes, maybe people would invest a lot more in their education, maybe there would be even more scientists and artists contributing to our world

Ooh, I would totally part-time as a lecturer if I didn't have to worry about income. The other time I'd still do my current job, because I actually like it

50k a year for your food and rent then that 1k for the WiFi. But luckily, you also get a pension when you are old and disgusting!

I actually got evicted from my first apartment because of this. It was income subsidized meaning rent was really affordable but it only went to people who could prove they made between 1.5 and 2.5x the rent. So on my $1300/mo place (California rent abt 2 years ago) if I made over about $3250 I lost my home. Well one day they asked for my updated pay stubs and found I had a week or two where I worked a full 40 hrs instead of my usual 38. They evicted me and now my rental history so far at 24 years old is an eviction and renting a room for a year.

@@howtohuman6903 Yea, this kinda stuff is nuts. There should really be a decline in help until you're independent, rather than suddenly cutting it off. Like if you get $1000 rent subsidy for any income you make under 2.5x that, then it shouldnt go away if you earn 2.6x. at 2500 you should get $1000 subsidy. At 2600 You should get like $950, at $2700 you get $900, at 3500 you get $500, and it only fully goes away at $4500. This way at every step of the way, you are making more than if you worked less, since the support you get drops at 1/2 the rate of the increase of your income and only gradually goes away. This way there is an incentive to work still and earn more money without fear of losing all your benefits. And this can allow people to slowly work their way up to self sufficient where they make those higher wages and dont need government aid anymore.

@@eragon78 this logic is beautiful and should be shouted every day from the rooftops of the Whitehouse.

@@eragon78 It would likely save the government alot of money as you would not have to incarcerate people as many who get involved in crime are poor.

My disabled co-worker had that problem. He couldn't make too much because his benefits would be cut so only worked part time. Now that he can't work, it might have been better if he'd been able to build a nest egg by working a few more hours when he could.

so pretty much car insurance XD

I have found the diamond in this cesspool of comments.

@Webblz :v Uh... I do not mean to be rude but,commenting on RU-vid videos won't change people. Case in point, all the other useless comments out there. It is sad, I know,but just putting my 2 cents on the matter. Ego is a very problematic thing.

@Webblz 900 You can't make goofballs learn.

Goals

That does happen.

@Bryson Fledderman at least from texas

@Bryson Fledderman That's about 25%-40%, the rest are just trying to survive.

@@someonefamous8671 *"healthcare please"*

Nah just my dad

@@TheCompleteMental ?

Don't you get a basic income anyway if you're in a position you describe? That's how it works in most countries.

@@realkrzaku not without essentially begging for it (uk). Chronic illnesses aren’t automatically seen as a disability. They don’t care if you’re in pain. And the money you get is nothing you can actually live on (pay rent, bills, food etc).

I don't have a full-time job; instead, I'm self-employed with a variety of sources of income. Regardless of how much money I generate each month, I maintain the same budget and adhere to my means-tested lifestyle.

Find stocks with yields that exceed the market and stocks that, at the very least, follow the long-term market trend. However, you should get guidance from a financial advisor if you want to create a successful long-term plan...

I agree, I've been in constant touch with an Investment advisor for approximately 17 months. These days, it's really easy to buy into trending stocks, but the task is determining when to sell or hold. That's where my advisor comes in, to help me with entry and exit points , I've accrued over $337k from an initially stagnant reserve of $148K all within 18 months...

interesting! can u share more details?

Cant reveal much info, Kate Elizabeth Amdall is the shrewd advisor responsible for my portfolio success, it's only right you look her up and confirm yourself.

Yanggang unite!!!

UBI won't solve the internal contradictions of capital accumulation, it's bandaid on a broken system

@@danjennpilapil6595 these Bernie Bros don't stand a chance! 😎

I was thinking that the whole time

b r u h

They have the best easter eggs.

Did anyone else enjoy the lack of objectivity shown in this video? They tried to pivot 180 towards the end but it wasn’t especially convincing

@@colin-campbell from most of their videos, I gather they focus on the positives of each subject, but highlight the key criticisms towards the end. It could be more in-depth, but it allows for a baseline for ppl who are more interested to go and research it themselves. I think they do this so ppl don't blindly believe negative arguments, and it creates intrigue into the subject, again, for further research.

@@colin-campbell Ure paranoid

@@netecrivernetecassassins2945 caseroll ha kid eats a squid

If jobs were something people wanted to do then most of them wouldn't be jobs

Wasn't it 60 sum percent not 16😂😭

I’ve yet to have a job where I wasn’t actively miserable

@@aaronlandry3934 if you have to make ends meet, it can be difficult to find a job that doesn't actively make you miserable. I have also been miserable in nearly every job that I've had. I know what I want to do to be happy, but that market requires a lot of resources I'm not able to accomplish on my own, and I don't have enough income to actually create a company with the jobs available to me.

@@aaronlandry3934 And when none of them give you financial help? Then what? They are stuck. You did give some good advice, which is awesome. But this is not the end all be all to solving the issue. We all will have different outcomes or luck when it comes to starting a business or going down a career path that is more challenge to enter than others. But it all still boils down to 'do you have the funds to see this through without being homeless?'. And when you can't start the business to make the money to see it through, you are stuck in these miserable jobs, most of which either pay too little for your time, or they pay you enough, but demand ALL your time. I have yet to find a job that was in a happy middle ground that didn't go to one of those extremes. And I've been working for 17 years now through a good 20 jobs. Again, great advice you gave. But a UBI would help make these business and career startups a lot smoother and with probably higher success rates than hoping for the 'good will' of these other programs or people you mentioned. They can be picky after all, especially if your intended career is a very niche or weird one.

The Star Trek model! Except "what you want" is usually fulfilling the need for adventure, or to create great food etc

As vid said, people will increase ubi for votes

In practice it is the dumbest idea ever and would eventually just crash the economy

@Hungarian Eagle the constitution means shit these days. See 2nd amendment

@@SL4US How is it the dumbest idea ever?

No to taxation to the wealthy and yes to absolute mass printing of money then the absolute mass money printing will converted into UBI money that all of people wealthy,rich,middle income,poor,miserable,male,female,lgbt,adults,seniors,teens,childrens,infants,employed,underemployed,unemployed what so ever except criminals,terrorists,drug addicts,and rebels are the beneficiaries and recievers of universal basic income money that the source of universal basic income money is absolute massive money printing and souvereign wealth funds

Don't care.

Darin Gainey then why did u comment?

Notice The SImpson's house?

Oh my god everyone I was waiting this whole time to see what Darin thought about this and it turns out he doesn't care! What inspirational insight.

I agree the visuals are great.

I'm with you there. Even I did get a UBI, I'd still take a job. :-)

I would too, but it wouldn't be what I'm doing now, for how much I'm doing it for.

@@mr.nozzles9121 So you'd go for a better job you'd enjoy more? :)

​@@michaelblower7363 I'd like to think I would. Hard to live when you're stuck in survival mode. I'd probably pursue something that wouldn't really pay much, but I'd love regardless. Lack of qualifications preventing me from doing so now. And lack of financial means to go after those qualifications.

@@mr.nozzles9121 It is hard to live when you're stressing about your survival, can't argue with that. If you ask me, I'd probably do the same. Maybe even start up a little business. :-)

Learning would be far more enjoyable and interesting.

You would have a class every month, if it was 10 minutes long. Animations take time sadly ;n;

MsPurplebutterly true but if you got a big enough force of animators I’m sure you could cut that down and once you made it once you’d only have to adjust it

I would come just for the animation

Aiman Shamsol me too man 😂

I saw it!

8:11

Me: You can have my ugly ducklings.

When you are so desirable, financially, socially, or genetically, that someone tells you they want to start a family with you. At least they're that honest and to the point.

@@marianparker7502 I think it's not always about fear, Sometimes realistic factors discourage people from reaching their goals in life. For instance, I've tried investing in the stock market several times but always got discouraged by fluctuations of stock value

@@Robertgriffinne This is the problem! Most times people with little or no knowledge of the stock market try investing by themselves. It once happened to me, then I learned my lesson and contacted a US-based finance consultant by name Corinne Cecilia Heaney and everything changed. In in the first quarter of this year i made $370k and counting.

@@Patriciacraig599 Impressive, that sounds good but how do I reach out to Corinne ?

@@Robertgriffinne Use your browser to search for the name to see her website.

@@Patriciacraig599 Thanks, could really use the recommendation, I've been losing a shit-ton lately, I looked up Corinne Cecilia Heaney and booked an appointment...will keep you updated

I agree. When I quit my job earlier this year, it took me 2 months to find a new job. At first it was fun, playing video games and reading most of the time, but after a month I was bored out of my mind. A meaningful job is essential to a person's life.

Agree. I have been retired for quite a while, and at first it IS like a nice vacation. But after a few months , life starts to lack drive and purpose, unless you have a reason to live, no matter how small.

Same. I was able to take a few months off work after leaving a bad job, and I LOVED the rest and restarting many of my hobbies. After 4 months though, I decided I wanted to work again because it gave my life more meaning, order, etc. I could have taken another 4 months off comfortably, but didn't need to. Now that I have a better workplace I'm happily showing up each day bc I enjoy contributing my skills and helping others.

@@rikkrock6497 I disagree that its essential, I personally could easily find ways to provide my life meaning without a job. That said, I would probably take something I highly enjoy and MAKE it a job. Like I would never work some terrible job like retail or factory work again, but instead I may take my coding hobby and find work in indie game development which is something I do right now has a hobby but have no time to work on to have any shot at making it a real employment option for me right now. So if I didnt have to work, I could very easily see myself taking that hobby and making it into more than just a hobby and earning a stable income off of it. Something thats impossible without the time right now. So in that sense I do somewhat agree, since many people have a Hobby that they COULD turn into a "job" but its just not realistic for them without the time to put practice into it, or the time to actually build up an income model around it. But with a UBI, they could, and it could lead to a cultural explosion with more people being able to do what they ACTUALLY want rather than being forced to work shitty jobs they dont care about at all and that treat them like dirt.

I disagree. If I supposedly had enough passive income to live an ‘ok’ life, not luxury but not poverty, I probably wouldn’t get any long-term job. I may work short stints a few times a year, but definitely not a career. And I’ve met quite a few people who would be satisfied with even less than that.

Becoming a necessity is different from installing it because it will make everytuing sunshine and roses. At the point UBI is needed, we'll be living in a literal cyberpunk dystopia. But without cool commercial grade cybernetics.

​@@rustyshackleford1508 By the time UBI is needed it would be a bit late to implement it even if it'd benefit people. What should be done is to implement it before people lose their jobs. People in general are idiots and many don't think that far ahead. One day that factory worker or farmer will be out of a job because a machine can do it better and cheaper and they'll stand there having to look for a job in a society that may not have many jobs for a person of their experience or be very friendly to the unemployed. If UBI was in place then these people will have that security of not going broke as fast and actually have time to get things in order, such as either finding a new job or move. I'm all for romanticizing dystopia, but it's not something we should aim towards in real life. All being unprepared for the future will do is increase the amount of misery across the board. Unemployment would be the least of our issues. Crime would rise significantly, so would drug use and general unproductivity due to unhappiness and depression. That means less innovation which in an innovation driven economy means less money to go around. Startup companies would fail more often than not and the only companies that will be able to stay in business are the ones already filthy rich or with ties to the government. The government would eventually be forced to take a more authoritarian stance to deal with all the problems they created or allowed to happen. This will lead to more conflict and more death. Civil war is a possibility. With more advanced weaponry this can get messy real fast. Eventually society will balance itself out but not before a lot of people have died and there is no trust or hope left. That'd be a very unforgiving society to live in. It'd make for a great game, not so much for reality.

fisyr or maybe they'll just murder most of us

This is true, when most of the jobs are taken over by Ai and humans are less profitable, then we can transfer the work to them and we can live lives of luxury on the backs of Ai's work... I promise it's not an allegory for slavery

Automation will increase the number ofjobs, notte opposite.

Exactly! Because right now only people clean toilets if they are forced to do so because of their situation: no money and no possibility to get another job (often times connected to discrimination for example racism). If you want people to work you should pay them enough that they are willing to do the job even if they are not forced! This is what the job is actually worth in a FREE MARKET. If people get paid less then they are exploited since they cannot choose. Even Milton Friedman understood that and was therefore in favour of UBI. If people cleaning toilets earns more than "hardwoorking intelectuals with a college degree" than these people are also free to choose cleaning toilets! It's not only about skill that is needed but also about how unpleasant and demanding work is.

@@ABC-vd1zl I Totally agree. Plus, jobs like cleaning are actually more vital to survival and health than a lot of high paying university degree type jobs!

It seems to me that technology is the inevitable answer, just as it has been in the past. Technology will probably make today's undesirable jobs obsolete eventually. This has always been true. However, those jobs were usually replaced by new undesirable jobs. The question is, will this always be true? Or will technology one day reach a point where there will be no more undesirable jobs?

@@4migm and then comes in a big unemployment gap once undesirable jobs are no longer needed since atleast 30-40% of jobs(not the number of jobs but the number of people doing those jobs that are in that job inside of the workforce) right now are jobs that could be automated

Everybody can do cleaning, physical work etc. That's why they are naturally low paying jobs. While jobs for which you need qualifications like being a doctor are high paying. This incentivises people to get the qualification. It is a natural thing and it is good it stays that way. Changing this would not only be bad for society, but would require some hard restrictions/remodeling.

David Liu hehe

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Okay, I think this is my favourite comment in this entire comment section. Well done sir.

Why?

Ikr they're so good

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Yes, absolutely wonderful. I don't agree with the message (UBI would cause inflation) but really high quality. And the videos are so interesting!

@@jellohunter7981 Ubi wouldn't cause too much inflation tho. To find Ubi you wouldn't be printing more money but rather re directing it. Prices would rise maybe 10% because everyone now has more money, but this isn't a huge problem

@@rappermerch7785 The US inflation rate is about 1.5%, so 10% inflation isn't really viable, and would discourage saving.

This is basically communism except you would be forced to work

that would be so stupid to work for no profit. there would be a severe shortage of workers. you should have universal basic income, basic healthcare, etc. and then if you want anything ABOVE that you can work and earn more money for it

You're basically describing a post-scarcity society, like the Federation in Star Trek.

How does upward mobility work in a UBI system?

yang started his presidential campaign before this video btw

I really wish he didn't drop out of the race, I was really rooting for him

@@cassieborromeo2308 Realistically he didn't have any chance. He was the radical candidate for sure and at least from my pov he was just getting the idea of UBI out there which he definitely did. Kind of how a few years ago bernie was considered incredibly radical for suggesting healthcare for all but now he has a much more serious chance of winning.

Bernie is better

Comrade Sky remember that Bernie has been doing this his entire life, but yeah I agree he’s a great guy and his consistency throughout his career is incredible.

The better worker, yes. But the other person will just not work if given the opportunity.

@Grubgobbler da Grot I don't know how to explain this to you if you think like that. UBI would create instantaneous mass inflation, mass laziness and worsen our national debt by many times. I don't know how you think a shrinking economy would be a good thing.

@Jullian Arredondo There are some weirdos out there, man. You would be surprised the stuff some people are into.

The better worker will not enjoy any job if they are not earning a wage that is meaningful.

​@@garyegray Every human is born with the right to survive, and that right should be respected regardless of whether or not they work a job or pursue a career. Anything past basic survival - internet access, computers, games, toys, luxury items, nice housing, good clothing, creature comforts - would have to be worked for. Just because it isn't a direct fight against starvation and the elements doesn't mean it isn't meaningful.

Sometimes, less is more!

Aaron Landry I think it’s good people are learning about this, if they agree with it they should know about what they support. If they don’t agree with it then they’ll have more effect arguments against it

@@aaronlandry3934 This video has to vastly oversimplify all of the concepts, otherwise it'd be several hours long. Saying they 'don't understand' something is a bad faith strawman argument. There seem to be exceptionally many of those about UBI, like presenting the worst possible version as the only realistic one, which should make you wonder why the mainstream media is trying to prevent an honest discussion. Homeless people aren't a uniform group, there are many different reasons someone might become homeless. For simplicity, we'll consider two clear causes: addiction and bad luck. A self destructive addict (gambling, drugs, etc) will indeed waste a UBI completely, while someone who lost everything (to medical or environmental costs) will be able to pull themselves out of the gutter and rebuilt their lives in a way that is impossible in the current system. Both sides of the argument are focusing on only one of these to make their point, which is why discussions are going in circles. Experts have been discussing UBI for a long time now, and the experiments look very promising. The kind of societies that were tested did have low income inequality, so there are still many questions left. Existing problems are escalating quickly and something drastic will have to be done either way. Therefore, now would be a good time to start doing tests in the most problematic areas, such as certain states/areas in USA.

@Cameron Rutherford solution we banned regulation of nanotechnology using and quantum physics are banned

@@aaronlandry3934 some thoughts; poverty is guaranteed in society, regardless of how capitalist they are. In what way should society address this? There can never be enough jobs to end poverty, low wage positions will always exist. Seems the more social supports exist to make life easier for low income people, the better for society. The arguments for inflation assume a ubi would be instantly distributed, causing an instant reaction from the market. Slow implementation would allow the market to evolve to the increased purchasing power. The market is also incredibly complex and blanketed statements on how it would react are oversimplified assumptions. Now that the world is collapsing because of covid, precursors to a ubi will begin out of necessity. The best thing for business is people buying shit, and the best way for people to buy shit is having money, a ubi might end up being necessary to stay afloat. If we can end the emergency funding in a year then great, but at some point in our life it seems that a ubi will happen out of necessity.

@@aaronlandry3934 What?

​@@aaronlandry3934 This statement is extremely misleading. Nixon's plan never came to fruition so you can't say whether it was a success or failure. Canada's trial ended due to a change in political leadership, from liberal to conservative. Conservative party promised to continue UBI and failed to keep their word. Finland's "UBI" was vastly different being the payments were issued only to a selected amount of unemployed individuals akin to America's welfare system.

you steal my comment.... im about to write this! amn glad im not alone

2 months later, drops out

@@itmegorski9716 Congress: *Passes UBI* PS: It was 27 months.

He's relatively a less known candidate. I was hooked on him when I watched his interview w/ Joe Rogan

Yep, I found out about around the same time you did.

@@chris_staybeastly Agreed. I couldn't believe I watched the whole thing, and wished it was longer lol

The only reason why I’ve heard of Andrew Yang is because of the whole “Yang gang” thing.

The only reason why I found out about him relatively soon is because I regularly follow politics, that's literally the only way one could've reliably found out about him on their own due to the very low mainstream media coverage he gets. The establishment considers him an outsider you see, so even though his policies would only improve the current overall system, without significantly changing it, they just don't wanna lose their power to someone who isn't considered "one of them." It's literally just power plays

That's why 1st World countries pay education with taxes

Nothing is free! Free Extra 1K every month means extra rant payment, extra groceries prices and more. If you tax rich even more they will just leave the country and pay nothing in tax. As simple as that. Welcome to Capitalism.

aside from the discussion in the other comments, what study were you forced to leave?

I'm sorry, that genuinely sucks. Good luck, and I hope you can return to your studies soon.

@@human-ui9gy Software engineering.

Aaron Landry polls don’t tell the whole story my friend. If you look at twitter followers and google searches, he’s the fastest growing candidate and the only one with sustained growth. He polls over 15% with college students and came in 2nd place in an Emerson poll on who is most likely to beat trump. The current polls skew mostly old, and his youthful yang gang is very passionate. Don’t underestimate the popularity of $1k per month my friend.

@@aaronlandry3934 Those polls were the same ones that had Hillary winning the national election with 99% lol, do not base yourself off of any polls buddy. YANG 2020

@@aaronlandry3934 young people make up most of eligible voters my dude. They don't vote because they most of the times don't feel passionate about any candidate. With Yang it is changing. I have never voted before but Yang made me register to vote so I can vote for him in the primaries!

7% in California as of today. One of the fastest growing campaigns of our time (fastest growing compare to all the people running). Let’s use facts, not feeling

@@aaronlandry3934 Not true, he just passed Harris in her home state of California in a Emerson poll for 4th place

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100% present 6% sleep m8

im glad im not the only one whos gonna be homeless in the future

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Haha, enjoy your minimum wage career!

@TARRY-X-TARRY I worked in a nature center. It was a jack-of-all-trades blue collar job where one day you're moving a fallen tree and the next you're bottle feeding a baby possum.

you can you adjust your financial expectations and change your life so you can get by on less money. i did this and i now make 1/8 of the money what i used to but i am working in a creative position and i am so much happier than i was making a lot of money but feeling miserable and a sense of hopelessness at work istaring at screens all day. it meant going through a lot of change, leaving the city, a whole change of life - but given the choice i would do exactly the same thing again. I have lost so much of the anger and anxiety i used to have from being in a job that did not make me feel fulfilled, and having to work so much to meet huge financial obligations. UBI is a great idea and humanity should stop talking about it and do it. it can't be any worse than the system we have now.

@@Chris-wq3pe dude I was living off ramen, getting all my groceries from the dollar store. My expectations couldn't have been lower. I wasn't spending my money on Starbucks or new clothing, everything I made was going to rent, food, and utilities. I don't want to be rich, but I would like to be able to afford to go to the doctor when I was ill. I had to stop taking one of my medications because I couldn't afford it. I couldn't even afford the bare minimum.

In my case, I'd just start a business. Acquiring capital is the next best thing to holding the means of production.

@@sandakureva I guess, but most folks don't have the money start their own business and I know I wouldn't find that as fulfilling. I don't want to be anyone's boss so starting a business would be just as tedious as my current job

We in Germany have such a thing or close with a lot of strings and it’s 400 euro + rent. But there and many many many people that just get that money and do nothing. I know it bc i was one of them for many years. Also what about smol Jobs like delivery people or whatever if they could get the same money without doing anything then maybe 50%? Or let’s say 33% of them stop working for sure. Maybe someday we will need such a system bc robots do all jobs humans don’t like but the same was sayed in the uhm what’s the English word for that 🤔 machine revolution? I don’t know how to say it sorry, hope you know what I mean. But the argument is, then there will be jobs on building these robots etc but you can’t work in the robot field with a bad abdication. So the hole debate is soooooo big bc so much stuff is build into it it’s Crazy. But you are right it’s definitely interesting. And sorry for my bad English 😅

@@OrangeMelon419 you cannot compare a UBI to hartz4, with a UBI you have more motivation getting a job, because your money doesn't get deducted. The main point for most people being unemployed is, that they have the same money, if they work or not.

@@prismflux5129 i talkt to many about that. And why go even work when you get even more money with UBI? The only job that would see a big increase where uhm what’s the English word for that 🤔 Like day jobs where you go for a short time bc you need a new phone or a new pc or whatever and then back to do nothing. Money is the only reason to go to a job for most people (like myself) If i could get enough money by dining nothing Well damn why even go to school bc you know you will never need it bc you don’t need a job.

@@OrangeMelon419 sags ruhig auf deutsch, wenn du magst. Ich war selber lange von hartz4 abhängig, genau so wie viele Meiner freunde und verwandten. Ich kann dir da leider nur wiedersprechen, ich und viele andere hätten viel mehr motivation gehabt sich einen job zu suchen, wenn es nicht angerechnet werden würde. Ich will ja etwas erreichen und mir auch mal teure sachen kaufen, das geht mit einem 1000€ BGE nicht, weil du musst ja auch noch miete und fixkosten zahlen, da sind wir I'm endeffekt bei nicht viel mehr als hartz4. der einzige unterschied ist, dass du dazuverdienen darfst und dadurch arbeit immer belohnt wird.

@@prismflux5129 es gibt in Schulen jetzt schon Kinder die sagen das sie mal Harz4 Empfänger werden wollen. Das würde niemals dazu führen das Leute mehr arbeiten. Kenne sogar Leute die gut verdienen die sagen wenn das Geld stimmt fürs nichts tun dann lieber nichts tun als arbeiten. Wäre aber mal interessant sehen. Ist halt nur schwer zu testen leider

@@aaronlandry3934 some people choose a field that will get them a living wage/ higher paying job or more guaranteed job right after school than going into a field they are more passionate about.

@@aaronlandry3934 I chose which degree I would pursue when I was an 18 year old child. Pretty much everyone decides what their first degree will be when they are a god damn child. I chose wrong. I had bad guidance from the people who were supposed to teach me better, and the choices I made about what degree to get were wrong. Because I was a stupid 18 year old I didn't realize that it really does matter. It really would have an effect on my life in real ways. The same people who didn't give me proper degree advice also pushed me into having 4 kids (yeah...tell a Mormon they have a choice about having kids...) Before I finished my bachelors degree in a useless field I was a father of 2 and a third was on the way. I was already working full time. I didn't even go to my own graduation...I had to be at work that day. I didn't have the ability or time to then go get another degree and by the time it became clear that being a classically trained musician in the year 2001 wasn't going to pay the bills...I had no choices. My wife wasn't allowed to work, because God said so...so I had to find work that paid for everything. I fell into finance. I hate finance, Aaron. It's boring. I don't give a shit about stocks or bonds and I CERTAINLY will not sell my soul for a corporation's profit... Here's the thing about UBI, Aaron...it wouldn't allow me to go get another degree because I don't want to. I love music Aaron...it fills my soul but I can't do music because filling my soul doesn't feed my children. UBI would suddenly make my degree in music the correct choice not only for me but for society because it's what I am best at. I would never be rich financially Aaron...but I would be willing to swap the 6 figure incomes of finance in a moment if it were possible. Let someone else do it...someone who likes it and wants to do it. My degree isn't useless because I don't value it...but because I can't use it to feed my kids. Imagine a world in which people can do what they are best at...what they enjoy most because they don't have to fear for the basic necessities of life that humanity solved eons ago. Imagine how much more productive and happy a world filled with people who are all working at what they are best at not because it's what they HAVE to do to survive but because it's what they are most able to do!? Would there be some who just subsist on the system? Of course. So what. There would be few and frankly many of them lost the lottery of genes that gives many of us the success we like to claim as our solely own and UBI might literally be all they can get as they aren't really able to work. There's a lot of people with IQ's low enough that the military won't draft then Aaron. The Military...the military can find work for almost anyone man. What do those people do? Has the system you love so much taken care of them, Aaron? There's A LOT of them Aaron.... Actually, you know, looking around at how the world is and the state of the United States, you're probably right. The way things have been is fine. Everything's fine. Nothing's wrong, move along, let's not try anything new. EVERYONE is just so fucking delighted right now.

@@aaronlandry3934 it's not really a choice between eating or not after graduation

@@sfurules In essence what you describe may be a _universal basic education_ Where *everyone* is given the opportunity to get an education or degree in a field that they're passionate about - available to everyone paid for by government. + Couple that with UBI Then we may have close to what you describe as everyone doing what they're passionate about *not* what pays the bills. You seem to dismiss low IQ people as not productive to society. That's not necessarily true. Just because someone is not academic doesn't mean they can't be employed. There are vocational jobs like the trades. plumbers electricians, bricklayers etc. Or driving jobs or any jobs that are not necessarily that taxing to the brain. This is where UBI would help those less fortunate lower earners to stay in employment and contribute to society without struggling. It's all about accessing peoples ability wether academic or vocational and pushing them in the *right* direction at an early age. Alas we then have _politics_ which muddies the waters somewhat. Also begs the question: The book of life Or the book of knowledge ?

@@stuartd9741 I'll admit that I have allowed the current environment to push me into a more...rushed...mindset than is ideal right now. I was born Mormon...and spent the first 35 years of my life somehow feeling like I was the one oppressed in the world (I was an upper middle-class white cis male in Southern California in the 90's. Quite frankly, one of the absolutely 99.999% lucky of all humanity up to this point). Now, leaving the church, and seeing the world with a new set of eyes that doesn't include the idea that there's a God running the show, and that He's in charge and just let the grown up's do the thinking...I see the disparity in how races are treated. How all people who are "Other" are treated. Do liberals get everything right? Of course not...there needs to be discourse and debate...but right now I see two sides to this. One side that thinks the gays, the blacks, the immigrants, the women, the Muslims, are all just getting unruly and need to be put back into their place, and the other side that thinks it's been enough millennia of that, and now it's time for real equality. To me that seems like such an easy choice.

But money is important. Maybe with an UBI it would be different :D

LUSCID [your user-friendly guide to Science] Agreed!

i was in the middle of watching a completely different video and as soon as i saw it i came here

I was working and decided this video will be worth taking a short break :)

Yeah!!

If it weren't for needing money, I'd work in animal care. But the job just doesn't pay enough. I'm too squeamish and emotionally weak to do surgeries and all that, but messes have never grossed me so I could do those jobs like on that Animal Cops show where they rescue cats from abandoned homes and the like. Collecting the animals. Or helping by making sure animals in care are fed, medicated, and clean.

No you wouldn't. Your deluding yourself. It's nice to speak in hypotheticals. But if you would do it, then YOU WOULD DO IT. you can "survive" in the US, begging 2 days a week. Spend the rest of the time working beating off dogs or whatever you want to do. Youve been tricked by the media to think you need all this dumb crap you don't need.

@@kaufmanat1 you realize all the land is owned by the government and is taxed, right? Even if you wanted to "live off the land" you still need a job to be allowed to even live on that land.

@@jadecoolness101 false, you can pitch a tent and camp in any national forest completely rent and tax free. You may not realize how big the national forests are in the US. They're bigger than some European countries. Our largest national forest is bigger than Switzerland (almost twice the size of Switzerland). And that's all free land you can live on rent and tax free. No purchase necessary so long as you're a US citizen. You can't build on it, only camp. But to be fair, if you cut down some trees and build a log cabin, it's pretty unlikely anyone's gonna notice. Camp fires ARE allowed. National PARKS are a different story.

Stop the cap ✋

Yeah but he's doing work that fulfills him and and actually helps other people unlike most people's jobs which tend to be unfulfilling and not very helpful to society.

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Good on him, if welfare works, why do we need a UBI? answer Welfare doesn't work and neither would a UBI.

@@aaronlandry3934 You ever read Marx?

@@aaronlandry3934 You handled that well and won valiantly, sir. I would only support UBI if it got rid of all the other welfare systems in the US, because that would actually be cheaper. And then everyone can quit bitching on their iphones about how unlucky they are. Imagine these same people attempting life 300 years ago? They'd starve to death, no question. Life has been suffering for most people for most of humanity's known existence. Yet the privileged among us to have time to bitch about their sheltered existences on the internet tell us how we should feel sorry for them. It's quite sad.

the remaining 0% are physically present.

@@cesarefildani5023 lol

999th like... *I wanted to be satisfied*

@Kaushal Batavia That’s true, but 33% of those who were mentally present (16% total) were only partially mentally present (i.e. miserable).

You mean how many European countries live today, just in slightly more complicated fashion. This comes as a major shock to many Americans....

@@MichaelGGarry as an european this seems to me more like a simpler more effective and less expensive way of doing what our social services try to do... but honestly idk. Cus don't think european countries are the poverty free utopias that is kind of imagined in this video :/

lol it wouldn't much more than foundation because this shit would literally bankrupt the country, especially on top of every other ridiculous social/welfare systems we already have. Why don't we just remove all the welfare garbage and let the economy grow, cut government spending and taxes. We would all be richer. Let's not spend on worthless people. People who has no skills and no wish to work should just go die in some forest like a gentleman - that would be best for everybody.

@@sten260 You do realize that a lot of people simply do not have a choice? Let's just say a kid born from a poor family (people simply can't choose where or from which class of family they'll be born). If there are no welfare systems, a lot of younger generations born from the lower class would not even have a chance to do better at life. They cant even afford basic things, such as food, place to live, and education. Stop talking nonsense about a utopian world where tax are not needed. Who do you think made our infrastructures (roads, public transports, public schools, etc)? If you say, our government need to do better at spending it? I would definitely agree.

like the best kind of hope + human virtue

alot of people are happy with a "middle class" existence. I'm currently a student, I can afford my own flat and work a little for my luxury items (have student loans for the rest) I essentially live on Ubi already, and it's great. I would love to spend the rest of my life in the world I have now, reading books, doing research on interesting topics and creating art. all the while I use the bit of work I do to buy luxury items from other creatives. or spend my time watching adds to support them.

Exactly. Theres too much of an absolutists narrative around how ubi would impact people's relationship with work. The idea that we would see a large scale of the workforce disappear or decline because their basic needs are being met is ridiculous. Its literally human nature to want to work in order to better provide for yourself. If you look at the opioid epidemic that's affecting working class men in particular one of the most concrete findings is that one of the most prevalent cause of addiction is due to the dissatisfaction that comes from unemployment. People want to work, people want to contribute something. Just because your most basic needs are met doesn't mean that you retire from life.

There is no such thing as have nots in Europe. Everyone is provided with accommodation, money for food and basic needs, free education and either free or subsidised healthcare.

@@krissyb6689 There's an increasing dependency on food banks all across Europe. Multiple countries are facing a housing crisis with a real probability that most people will never be able to afford mortgages, renting until they die. Europe has many problems, especially a problem with have and have nots. We would absolutely benefit from a UBI.

@@aaronlandry3934 Exactly, everything you just said does not apply to everyone and there's no reason it shouldn't. The welfare system in America absolutely disadvantages many people who are on it, often removing benefits from people who see marginal increases in their income, increases that can't support a life without welfare, creating a welfare trap that would only allow people to come off benefits if they seen substantial increases in their income, which doesn't happen often enough. And on the topic of student debt, America has a $1.5 trillion dollar student debt crisis. There are retired military vets who have been on multiple deployments who default on their student debt payments. You could go bankrupt and your student debt doesn't get wiped, as soon as you get back on your feet your student debt payments start coming in again. The level of poverty in America, which is already quite high for one of the most advanced and wealthiest countries in the world, isn't even accurate. The policy around how we evaluate the poverty level deliberately manipulates reporting methods so we don't recognise how bad the situation already is. To say that America has a function welfare system, a system that would do a better job of supporting people more than UBI then you really need to start looking into the research of UBI, especially as it relates to the current welfare benefits. Also UBI isn't a replacement of welfare benefits, it exists beside them and is an opt in system so if your current means of welfare are working for you then you absolutely do not have to give them up or see them change in any way.

It's tempting to say this is by design, that the system is a sinister mechanism to maintain a dependent poverty class. And for some elements, this is true. But sadly it's a lot simpler to say that this is a system designed by very comfortable people, who have no idea how the poor live, it the barriers they face ☹️.

And I'm so sorry this is your situation. It must be incredibly frustrating and difficult 😥

You make it sound like all jobs pay the same... Find a job that will pay you well enough or learn a new skill to be able to get one.

@@flynn9214 I've only ever worked in customer service. The most I'd ever make is min wage. I'm going back to school now but with how flooded my local job market is, without full open availability I really don't qualify for any jobs in my area. Once I'm done with school though I'll be able to go into a new field that starts at $18-22/hr but I have been very fortunate to have someone take care of me while I go to school.

@@howtohuman6903 :) I wish you the best! While staying home, the internet is a great place to learn a new skill or refine something you already know and it'll definitely help! You're already doing a great job at that because you're on this channel so it's only a matter of time before you'll make it out of this, happy.

Lowgos only a benevolent dictatorship could do this successfully but people would rebel over the lack of privacy

The government already inevitably does inflation, and would have to do so to pay off for UBI. Inflation happens because the people have too much money, and all the companies would charge more.

Actually the rich may only be able to afford 3 Lamborghini's instead of 4 due to the slight fair redistribution. So the price of Lamborghini's might fall.

Mark Gigiel You're right!

Flamix Flame Why would there be a lack of privacy?

Any capitalist society relies on the lower classes to scare the shit out of the working class. Especially the homeless! Why do you think in the States the possible homeless surge & people not wanting to work stories go hand in hand? You think those Walmart employees want to be there? You pay them a bit more than the minimum, but not an actual living wage. Watch your stock soar. Sell. Profit. Repeat ∞

@David Henry Ah, yes. Bootstraps & all that

@@Busto "Just go start a business!" - Every Capitalist

@@SkyenNovaA i mean, if you have a good idea for that business the quote actually works. you just need the right advertising and the right people to listen, which eventually comes.

@@boop3750 if every single person on planet earth had a brilliant idea for a business, there'd be no one to work for the businesses. Capitalism encourages a bottom working class

you just revealed the whole issue with this... people will work less. there will be less products and services available, which will push inflation through the roof combined with the increased buying power. please,r ead a book about basic economics

@@LowerYourExpectationsPleb Humans aren't meant to work 40 hours a week. That amount of hours is just plain inhumane! Also look up Finland, please.

@@LadybugsOpin What do you think, how much did humans work 500 years ago?

@@LowerYourExpectationsPleb Copied directly from a post I've been thinking about a lot lately. In other words, I'm not just making this up off the top of my head!: How about Stone Age people in Europe? They probably worked 3-5 hours per day, every day. (Though seasonal changes in food scarcity could change that) Laborers in ancient Egypt worked 8 hours, with an hour break at lunch. They did this for 8 days, then rested 2 days. That sounds familiar. Except… they also had regular time off for festivals and holidays, and only worked for about 18 out of every 50 days. Artisans in imperial Rome generally worked from 6am to Noon, and then had the rest of the day off… and only worked for half the year, due to all the holidays and festivals they got off. But that’s too easy, what about a Peasant in medieval England? 6-8 hours per day, with Sundays off, Farm workers put in longer hours at harvest time but worked shorter days in winter when there are fewer hours of daylight. Economist Juliet Schor estimates that in the period following the Plague they worked no more than 150 days a year, due to the long holidays and many festivals. Ugh, let’s go poorer. 17th century France. Starvation was afoot for the working poor! During the reign of King Louis XIV, the workers of France had it tough, and hunger for the poorest was a fact of life. The typical working day was as much as 12 hours long, but two hours were set aside midday for lunch and perhaps an afternoon nap. Nevertheless, the Ancient Régime is said to have also guaranteed peasants, labourers and other workers a total of 52 Sundays, 90 rest days and 38 religious holidays off per year, meaning they worked just 185 out of 365 days. So what changed? The industrial revolution, baybe~~ New factory owners could work their employees to the bone due to a lack of regulation and abundance of cheap labour. The typical factory worker in mid 19th-century England toiled away for a soul-destroying 16 hours a day, six days a week, 311 days per year! THAT nightmare became the standard by which western society began to judge “work-life balance” and anything gentler than the industrial factory’s unfettered brutality is considered “softness” (So many people died being mangled in those machines. Hair handkerchiefs went into style during American industrialization because working women would otherwise get their hair caught in the machines, and be either scalped or be bodily pulled inside to die…. But that’s a horror for another time) Americans in 2020 worked an average of 8.5 hours per day on weekdays, plus another 5 hours on weekends. Taking out federal holidays and weekends, we work 262 days per year. Most of us get 5-9 sick days to take per year. (Yes, a fixed number, no matter how sick you really are), and usually either no paid vacation, or 7-15 days paid vacation, depending on seniority and the company. Unpaid vacation doesn’t have a max, but taking it often risks you getting fired. Even comparing against the poorest laborers in ancient history the current working structure for humans is, frankly, inhumane. We are mammals. Let us rest. Let us celebrate holidays and attend festivals. Let us attend to our homes and families. Even the ultra wealthy folks who got their heads chopped off gave us more time off than this!!! Someone in the comments said something like “humans are instinctively industrious and productive, as social creatures!” Buddy, that’s a lie fed to you by capitalism. In our default state, we attend to our families yes, but we also party like hell, lounge around, and make fantastic works of art just to be proud of ourselves. We made beautiful things for the joy of creating them. Stone Age humans may have spent a couple hours hunting and gathering, but DEFINITELY spent loads of time painting every available surface. Time and weather washed most of it away, but some places like Arizona and Colorado still preserve a few of the endless murals made by ancient hands. Evidence shows that the ancient world was COVERED in paintings and etchings - just saturated with images of birds and beasts and humans, sunsets and cool weather. We invented mythologies and painted about them. We did something impressive, and painted about it. We taught our children how to paint and lifted them into our shoulders so they could mark the ceiling.

@@LadybugsOpin If you believe this, then I have a bridge to sell you. You really think people had it so good in the middle ages? LMAO. Think about how many times you open the fridge each day. Back in the day you had to go out and fucking HUNT. That was the 'fridge opening' back then. What if you had to hunt for hours to finally catch a rabbit? Do you realize the amount of meat on a rabbit? it's very low. Hours later you're porbably hungry again. What do you do? You go hunt again. And this is food only...

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Current system Corporation: replaces all workers with automation Workers: have no money to spend (Option 1) Credit card company: here's money Workers: buys stuff file bankruptcy (Option 2) School: here's money Workers: school loans own me can't discharge them, if this doesn't work I can go on welfare (Option 3) Welfare: here's aid but only if you meet a certain threshold Workers: well then I guess I can't report additional income *Tax payers:* 😣 Freedom Dividend system: Corporation: Replaces all the workers with automation. Now funding UBI with VAT Workers: has little to spend Workers: I can breathe, let me find a good job that I might enjoy and make more money *Credit card companies and Banks: our predatory traps aren't working, how can I own their souls?*

@John Smith you can disagree without being viscous. That's being a dumb dumb.

@@aaronlandry3934 I'd be happy getting something back from all these companies using my data.

@@aaronlandry3934 it's extortion. Either don't participate in modern technology and keep your data or do. Alaskans have at least a kickback from the oil on their land.

@@aaronlandry3934 you're right it's perfectly legal, how does one propose to create digital rights? If there were no drilling rights in place wouldn't it be the same?

I think it is. It's becoming very obvious that people DO actually want to work, and that those people who are essential to society's continued function are underpaid and undervalued.

Kerry Michael Even if there is UBI people won’t stop working.

Kerry Michael you are right, I’m nurse in ER and tbh I feel we don’t get paid enough for the amount of risk we take and violence we deal with, and now with covid we risking our lives and lives of our families. And I can’t stand the argument that people will bring in re “you should be in this profession not for the money” well unfortunately me and my family don’t eat air and when nurses get physically assaulted it’s not like you feel you got “ showered with gifts”

Kerry Michael the only problem that I keep seeing people just pass over like it’s nothing is that people want to be productive but they wanna do entertaining or interesting things like write, program, exercise, paint or create rather than things that need to be done like paperwork and the world can’t run just on nice artistic works, we also need the people who lay pipe, do construction, drive large transport trucks and all that Jazz. We may be getting better at automation but we still need people to do most highly intricate work that requires critical thinking

@@woodsytheowlscharedcorpse4761 most paperwork does not need doing - it's to do with bureaucracy - a type of made up job. Most real jobs, such as bus drivers are overworked transporting people to their fake jobs that don't need to be done. Since the Industrial revolution - where goods could be produced in excess - governments began making up useless jobs for us to do. I believe to keep us unhappy so, bring on the UBI

DragonCharlz except you would adapt to spend more money every month and be right where you were just in more debt 👍🏼

Shrinks would problably loose clients.

@thestackedhouse Good for your bloody grandparents for working hard. There's this thing called human progress. It's not a bad thing if life gets easier for subsequent generations. It's a good thing. Capitalism has generated tremendous wealth. We should invest some of that wealth in the people, giving them the means to pursue their goals. Poverty is a trap. A UBI would help people escape poverty.

@thestackedhouse Just fuck off dude, you aren't welcome in our society with that attitude.

@Grant Erickson hey chungus, by 55 your life's over, thank you very much.

I need to move there

I had food stamps for a little bit. My boss at the time gave me a raise and as soon as the food stamp folks found out, they cut my $200 to $17. This was when I had paperwork PROVING all my money from work went to bills and rent alone. The united states is a joke

Well that is why the current system is flawed. It encourages you to stay in lower income brackets.

I mean, a UBI isn't a huge improvement, since under Yang's proposal people would have a choice between our current welfare programs and a UBI. A jobs guarantee is the better proposal

Definitely, having a job can be very important mentally. And also let’s you have more controll over your life

@@bobro8086 Yeah, that's a factor that people don't really think about. There are often mental benefits to having a job, which is one reason why I feel like a jobs guarantee is superior to a UBI

Agreed, lots of people living in cities don't even realize they're kind of stuck there, but they don't have to be.

The biggest city in my state is decreasing by the year. We need more people to sustain our population haha.

Living in a city is much more efficient and in the long run, cheaper, than transporting goods over long distances to a few people. The reason why actual rents are high in cities is because the movement towards cities is so fast now that current supply can't meet the demand.

I totally agree with you and I think megalopolis are not healthy at all

except teh thing is most jobs would still be in the cities, traffic would get worse as more people have to drive longer meaning more cars are on the road at any given point. you can't uproot industry like you can people to new houses.

So instead of spending the money to get a worthwhile job that can feed you, you will instead get a art degree that you admit you wouldn’t do well at and continue to rely on taxpayer money to live. This is why a UBI system won’t work.

How 😱

If beer tasting or playing video games paid well, I would be all set.

That might be right but right now with such things as internet, video games, etc available, I think most people would just take the money and spend their lives at home.

Things that don't pay well (even in long term) are generally either over-produced by everyone or not considered necessary by other people, who are the ones paying for that thing.

Albert Noble see for me I’m 16 turning 17 in a month, I have a huge passion for ancient history and paleontology I’ve loved the study of evolution since I was 4 and would watch documentaries about dinosaurs, the ice age, and shit like that. But now as I stray towards my adult years my interests have expanded to encompass antiquity, the Roman Empire, Alexander the Great, that time period. And yet because those departments are generally extremely difficult to get into in terms of career and to be able to attain a job in that specific department with sustainable income I probably will never fully pursue a job in those categories. With a universal basic income, if I wasn’t consumed with the need to attain money for basic survival I’d be more than happy to pursue my interests to the fullest and I could comfortably major in Classical Studies or Ancient Studies. I understand my generation is by far the most complacent but that’s because we have 200,000 years of accumulated human innovation to mold a life with the utmost convenience but to generalize an entire demographic subtracts from the complexity of the individual person. I’m sure there’s be a lot of people who’d do nothing and become balls of lard but I’m also sure there’d be a lot more who’d pursue their passions with the foundation a UBI would provide

​@@anthonydo9401 That's correct, but the way human brain works doesn't ensure that. You have a treasurous young brain right now and everything sounds exciting and awesome to you. If you had a way to get endless pleasure without effort, things would become dull. More and more people might fall into this trap with that type of system. That's why it should be well thought out before jumping in to any conclusions.

What does it have to do with A.I?

Procrast When AI start “taking” all the jobs, we will need money. Unless currency disappears all together.

With AI a person can done a thousand people works, which is taking 999 people's job.

If AI truly surpasses human intelligence then it will very quickly supplant the entire workforce, leaving all humans without jobs. Not just management, but physical labor as well. We are talking about entities that don't want breaks. That never sleep, never feel lazy, and have no problems wading knee deep in shit all day, every day. This of course means that post scarcity is an actual possibility, but only if we do it right. UBI is a start, although we may eventually phase out currency as we understand it today. Also, as Transhumanism looms on the horizon, the very nature of society will fundamentally change.

Procrast AI can and will be developed eventually into fully self sustaining systems. They will take thousands or even more jobs, no one will need to work as a repair man/when the AI itself can repair itself. Effectively it will take away almost every job it is related to.

Prefer mountains or somewhere far from cities, clear air and lots of nature!

It would certainly be more complex than that. If we got UBI, there would be reform across the nation about how things cost. Or we would have a baseline amount for the people, but it would be adjusted to the cost of living in various places. If you live in the city, it would raise. If you lived in the cheaper rural areas, it would lower.

@Jason S Get that circular logic BS out of here. It's so that people can have a baseline allowance for living expenses. We can hardly call ourselves a first world nation and have so many people not being able to pay for basic resources. We are losing a LOT of money to the rich who are hoarding their income, adjusting their income to raise with inflation while keeping their employees at the same pay (see their strong resistance to raising minimum wage), and avoiding more tax than the other 99% even get to see in their lifetimes. They are a plague that needs to be dealt with.

Icewind007 Why don’t the rich have a right to keep their income? After all, they earned it.

It's a number, I'd rather the number was three times that, but he spoke of different types of UBI and that he was going to cover just the lowest one. That UBI that gave everyone middle class lifestyle would require societal change, whereas a pittance, but better than nothing UBI supplement would just raise everyone up, not upset the entire framework. Anyone barely getting by an extra $1k/month means they could eat good food, or have the time to cook non-uber-processed meals or take out. It would mean being able to sit down with your kids for homework. It would mean you wouldn't need that third job.

You had this thought as a child. That says it all. It's the thinking of children. Not adults. Children don't know anything. Hence their thoughts are basically worthless.

@@kaufmanat1 uhhhh.... No. Mine might but kid's thoughts are not worthless, have you ever watch Ted talk? There are several kids talk about some cool shit

@@nguyentrananhnguyen7900 true. I was being hyperbolic. Kids are fun to talk to and approach things sometimes from a unique perspective. When it comes to designing economies though, they're 99.99 percent bad ideas.

Actually, the kid has it right. Make machines to do the hard work and make life easier for people. Adults look at machines and think "now we can work people that much harder and get triple the profit!"

@@bpdmf2798? No adult ever has thought that. They look at machines and think profits, that's it. In fact, it's adults who invent the machines for the sole purpose of making the work easier. Where did the cotton gin come from? Trust me, no one's working 3 times as hard as the laborers of the past, the men who built ancient cities like Rome, the farmers growing and harvesting crops WITHOUT the benefit of fossil fuels. No one today is working the 16 hour days that coal miners worked 100 years ago. Sitting in an air conditioned office doesn't compare to the back breaking work humans suffered through years ago. Truth is, people today don't know what hard work is (myself included). We aren't working 3 times as hard. No humans in history worked as little and as comfortably and as safely as we do today.