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Univocality, Critical Theory, and Why Modern Skeptics Love the Mix So Much.  

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What is univocality? And how has the interaction between univocality and literary critical theories transformed Biblical studies? And how do we evaluate the resulting hermeneutic? Find out more on this episode.
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Комментарии : 39   
@euanthompson
@euanthompson 3 месяца назад
The thing I find most bizarre in life, is that there is no one more of a fundamentalist than an ex-fundamentalist, and no one more of a literalist than an ex-literalist.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 3 месяца назад
There's definitely truth in that.
@treeckoniusconstantinus
@treeckoniusconstantinus 3 месяца назад
The best sort of biblical criticism today is biblical criticism criticism, where we get to look at all the built-in assumptions that have developed from nebulous concepts of purported "consensus" over the last several decades and say, "Nah, that's pretty cringe."
@wkrapek
@wkrapek 3 месяца назад
I just consider modern biblical scholarship to be a biblical literary sect and call it a day. I think that puts it in proper context.
@JosiahTheSiah
@JosiahTheSiah 3 месяца назад
There are many faithful Biblical scholars living today. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water 😉
@johncosminsky5351
@johncosminsky5351 3 месяца назад
I'm glad you said that about fundamentalism. As a person from a fundie background, I was thinking, "Oh that's like when the preacher says 'Psalm 12:7 KJV - Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.'" proves you should only read the KJV, without noticing that what is being kept is the "upright" that the entire Psalm is about.
@charliedontsurf334
@charliedontsurf334 3 месяца назад
Or how people misuse Jeremiah 29:11. He might have plans to bless you, but you done messed up A-A-RON! (Jeremiah 29:12...probably...maybe 2 Opinions?)
@jackray1337
@jackray1337 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@Yan_Alkovic
@Yan_Alkovic 3 месяца назад
Thank you for informing us about this rather unfortunate hermeneutic! Now we know what it's called
@n.a.odessa3939
@n.a.odessa3939 3 месяца назад
9:20 I think we all know a certain TikTok scholar 😂
@Jmacchicken
@Jmacchicken 3 месяца назад
I like Gordon Clark a lot but I never really understood him here. Seems like he has a very dictation-heavy view of inspiration underlying his thinking on the subject.
@wmarkfish
@wmarkfish 3 месяца назад
What’s a theologian to do to earn a living in such a picked over field but to be antagonistic and critical?
@MiguelMiguel-tk2dn
@MiguelMiguel-tk2dn 3 месяца назад
Do you have any thoughts on historians dating the book of Daniel to the 2nd century BC?
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 3 месяца назад
Yes, historians date 1 Enoch to the 4th century BC. 1 Enoch quotes Daniel 7. You can probably figure out the rest for yourself.
@MiguelMiguel-tk2dn
@MiguelMiguel-tk2dn 3 месяца назад
@@ancientegyptandthebible Thanks.
@grantgooch5834
@grantgooch5834 3 месяца назад
People like to say faith is belief without evidence when in reality that's a much more fitting definition for "critical scholarship." I don't think there's another field, not including things like gender studies, where so much crap is accepted by a group of people clearly educated beyond their intelligence.
@tomasrocha6139
@tomasrocha6139 3 месяца назад
Accepted crap? Such as?
@DrakonPhD
@DrakonPhD 3 месяца назад
@@tomasrocha6139 The documentary hypothesis, for one.
@tomasrocha6139
@tomasrocha6139 3 месяца назад
@@DrakonPhD The documentary hypothesis is quite contested, and it's not crap either.
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF 3 месяца назад
​@@tomasrocha6139I think the arguments for Timothy being a forgery are really weak. The thesis is not even that popular actually. If I remenber correctly there was a poll with Bible scholars where only about 50% said it was fake, the other 50% were divided on "legitimate" and "I don't know".
@tomasrocha6139
@tomasrocha6139 3 месяца назад
@@Testimony_Of_JTF Norman Perrin argued that Paul's travels to Crete (Titus 1:5-6), again to Ephesus (1 Tim 1:3), Nicopolis (Titus 3:12), and Troas (2 Tim 1:15, 4:13) cannot be fit into any reconstruction of Paul's life or works as determined from the other epistles or from Acts
@ConsideringPhlebas
@ConsideringPhlebas 3 месяца назад
💯
@user-cb8dd3rc9z
@user-cb8dd3rc9z 3 месяца назад
I had an argument along these lines with a Hebrew Roots person recently regarding Hebrews 8:13 and 9:1. They insisted these verses could not be about a new covenant because "covenant" is not explicitly present in the Greek. Instead, it's referencing the priesthood as discussed in the previous chapter and the first few verses of chapter 8. Thus, the use of the word covenant in English translations of these verses is Satanic influence. No, I'm not kidding. That was the claim. Of course, it completely ignores the immediate preceding context of 8:6-12, in which "covenant" is utilized several times. They isolated verse 13 from 6-12 and refused to even consider them. It also ignores that, in a Greek manuscript, verses flow from one to the next without chapter or verse distinction. So the immediate context of 8:13 would also be the context of 9:1. And it ignores the continuing covenantal expositions of chapter 9. It was an absurd line of reasoning. They also misread the term "fault." Their understanding was that, if the old covenant were under discussion, a "fault" *must* mean God's covenant was flawed. Of course, God can't make mistakes, so the passage *must* be talking about something other than the old covenant. In other words, they entirely failed to understand what "fault" means, regarding covenants. So, their forcible misapplication of the wrong "fault" definition reinforced their misapprehension of everything else in the passage.
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 3 месяца назад
I wonder how they possibly reconcile that mindset with Jeremiah 31 🤦🏽‍♂️
@user-cb8dd3rc9z
@user-cb8dd3rc9z 3 месяца назад
@@samueljennings4809 It came up. "You might want to read the passage in Jeremiah again, because that's not what it was talking about." I pointed out that the author of Hebrews clearly disagrees, but it didn't seem to phase them.
@helenaconstantine
@helenaconstantine 2 месяца назад
0:22 I had to listen to that several times to make out what he is trying to say; I think its univocus. He really doesn't know any Latin. The point of the video is gibberish too.
@ancientegyptandthebible
@ancientegyptandthebible 2 месяца назад
The peanut gallery has spoken yet again. 😂
@DiverRamada
@DiverRamada 3 месяца назад
I keep seeing skeptics say " the bible is not univocal because there is disagreement among authors " I always thought not univocality simply meant there is more than one possible meaning to a text . But this is a strange thing to claim . There is almost an endlless amount of possoble meanings that can be derived from any text . But only 1can be correct as intended by the author .
@stephengray1344
@stephengray1344 3 месяца назад
It's not entirely true that only one possible meaning can be correct as intended by the author. Sometimes an author intends a text to be ambiguous. And sometimes they intend to communicate several different layers of meaning within particular statements.
@DiverRamada
@DiverRamada 3 месяца назад
@@stephengray1344 I understand that an author can employ multiple meanings but they are still extremely limited . It is very rare for an author to have more than a double meaning . Any more than that is usually in the context of poetry Or in modern times Rap
@stephengray1344
@stephengray1344 3 месяца назад
@@DiverRamada True. I was just reacting against a statement that read a little bit too absolutist (and boosting the video in the algorithm).
@DiverRamada
@DiverRamada 3 месяца назад
Well I am just speaking generally to be honest . Generally an author has a single meaning to what they are intending to say unless they are doing something creative
@FollowersofTheShepherd
@FollowersofTheShepherd 3 месяца назад
Sounds like a stance that comes out of such laziness to study a topic.
@charliedontsurf334
@charliedontsurf334 3 месяца назад
Yeah...that happens on both sides. I was watching Francesca Stavrakopoulou once, and she argues that the Bible was edited to cover up Ancient Israelite polytheism. To which I ask, has she even read the Bible? Since when it calling something out synonymous with covering it up?
@FollowersofTheShepherd
@FollowersofTheShepherd 3 месяца назад
@charliedontsurf334 Ya, there are so many strange ideas out there haha.
@brenthardaway3704
@brenthardaway3704 10 дней назад
Tell me you're talking about Dan McClellan without talking about Dan McClellan.
@tgrogan6049
@tgrogan6049 3 месяца назад
Yes nobody understands the Bible check!😂😂😂😂
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