@@hughmungus370 Funny how you pick and chose whatever fits your narrative. I bet you think this virus is not severe. First of all not everyone gets the same vaccine since there are multiple different types out there. Second Even if everyone gets the same vaccine not everyone will/wants to get vaccinated so 8,000,000,000 is not accurate. Third this virus has a case fatality rate of 1%-5% so even if we go with what nutheads believe and say it's 99.9% survivable then 0.1% of 8,000,000,000 is 8,000,000 which is far higher then 200,000 that you allege could die from vaccine. Also covid19 has a ton of cases where people survive but still have damage to organs some of which could be permanent. So stop with your anti-vaxx bull you idiot
All the cops involved should be fired for handing the child to a complete stranger. They let her take the child out of their site into a private office. They knew nothing about this woman except that she was a Walmart employee. Sounds like child endangerment to me.
Threatened to kidnap his child, then did. They lied, and violated his constitutional rights. They unlawfully arrested him (kidnapping), and physical assaulted him. Fire them all.
@Lee Devries They colllude with Walmart to kidnap the 3 yr old child . Walmart need to specify in their employment contract , not to collude with LEO's, They aren't a public welfare agency, They R just a monstrous greedy corporate entity .
Lee Devries The threaten to call cps to pick up his child so yes they did threaten to kidnap his child. Cops do it all the time. They do it as a way to intimidate because they know that most people will give in to their unlawful demands rather than have CPS take custody of their child.
They doxed him on purpose. They'll want us to believe that was a clerical error but we all know that's 100% pure BS. That was purely intentional. (I've dealt with a couple of those vindictive little assholes in San Angelo. I wouldn't put anything past them.)
Hes not going to get sacked, cops have practical immunity, because their mates wont investigate them and then wont prosecute them. They all have to play along to maintain their own immunity - they look after each other from the top to the bottom - they're a bit like a"Blue Klux Klan".
It’s so weird in Australia because they just breathylse you and cut you loose. It’s pretty rare to be asked for ID, it’s tied to your license plate which is also tied to your registration which can be pulled up on their computer at any time very fast via camera. America is so backwards to me.
Exactly…that’s the dumbest thought ever lol smh these cops… I tell ya … we won’t even start that all they had as a description was curly brown hair and 5’9 smh
@@MrThisIsMeToo i hate to kick a man when he's down but man... after all that, the cop still didn't get the law regarding someone has to present ID while being detained. it was actually painful to watch him during the interview
EXACTLY! It's SOOOO hard to fire a police officer, good or bad. And as a proponent of unions myself, I understand that...but only to a degree. So why not make it SOOOOOO hard to actually be a cop then? Or make it hard to be in the union and receive the protection of the union then. Guilds and trade associations make it very selective for a reason.
it surprises me how many cops just dont know the law. why wouldnt they do some research pertaining to thier job? only job where you dont have to know what your doing.
He knows exactly what he's doing is unconstitutional and therefore illegal but he does not care. He believes that he is above the law and everyone must submit to his authority no matter what. Submit or he will use his badge to force someone to submit. He's a TYRANT!!!!!
All he really knows is the answer to give his bosses --- "I've reviewed the law and now I'm better informed." That answer has probably worked in the past. However, he is an idiot and incapable of actually educating himself.
The most interesting thing about this incident is how NOBODY mentioned the damage and trauma of the child who was removed from his father - and all that time the child was also held in custody by a stranger while he knew the police were doing something with his daddy. This is the most disgusting part of this entire ordeal - the damage to the child.
You can sometimes keep the trauma inside you, not necessary have a reaction you can check from outside. Thats basic psychology, other way we would judge mental state by the outside, no questions. @@googlesucks9041
@@googlesucks9041you don’t have to cry to have a traumatic experience. If you don’t have a degree in mental health or psychology don’t comment on stuff you don’t know.
I saw them too..... They don't know the law they are aholes want make collars cuz they barley made it thru school so false arrest false imprisonment is only way they Get promotions... More they attack we the people the more they get congratulated.... Wow People who called should be arrested at least a week in jail
9:50 That is absolutely infuriating, there were three cops there during the arrest and not a single one of them even had a basic knowledge of their job. Why is the supervisor the only one that knows what ever single patrol officer should have know in order to graduate the police academy?
The rookie Knew the ID law,and the Sargent didn't he asked for it to be looked up..as he wasn't 100%.the rookie told him without looking it up...The rookie later in his interview stated he went along with the wrongful ID arrest as he thought the longer served cops knew something he didn't....He was then told in future he should take one of the cops to one side and say,well this is wrong and explain why...
@Mike Jasper They know the perfectly. They want you to think they don't because majority of Americans don't and that's how cops can break it to pile up arrest. They are playing dumb but they know exactly what they're doing.
Law enforcement doesn't think they are intimidating when police officers encircle a private citizen. There is no requirement for a private citizen to give a tyrant identification without stated cause, even if the officer thinks it would be better. An ID doesn't identify a perp. Police officers need to understand that.
Somebody reported a drunk person. The police were right next to the man and must’ve realized he wasn’t drunk. That should’ve been end of contact. But the Gestapo have to ramp it up and escalate.
They couldn't stand the fact that he knew he didn't have to give them his name. It was a big blow to their fat egos and they took it personally, then abused their authority and arrested him.
Qualified immunity was made for tyrants like these stupid cops that never paid attention in police collage. What's the point of having a SAT score if you're not going to set a bar high enough so you can get intelligent police officers instead of numb skulls that you couldn't even trust to be garbage men. Enjoy all the lawsuits you get you deserve it.
@@BackwoodsFilms Most of these false arrests are due to police officer ego. They can’t stand it when someone challenges their unlawful orders or knows the ID laws. Instead of letting it go the bad police officer escalates to arrest. Then they throw false charges in hopes some will stick.
@@BackwoodsFilms They didn't believe it when he (correctly) told them he didn't have to give his name. Despite the Sergeant explaining it twice at the scene, and his own review of the law, this guy still didn't comprehend the limits of his authority.
"Release him . . . but tell him . . . it is best when asked by a police officer who he is to give his name." - In other words, it is best to voluntarily give up our rights in order to not have our rights forcibly violated.
OF COURSE THEY DONT BOTHER TO TELL THE TRUTH= WHEN ASKED BY A COP YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE ID OR YOUR NAME======== ONLY IF LAWFULLY ARRESTED========== ( A SMALL NUMBER OF STATES HAVE LAWS THAT REQUIRE ID IF DETAINED)))0 JACK WAS NOT DETAINED=======
@@theoneandonly4464 cuz if they say that then it makes then sound like they knew it was wrong from the beginning 🙄🙄 it’s some dumb cop shit. They really should tho it’s the right thing to do as a human being lmao
I’ll never understand how identifying someone somehow solves some big mystery of whether he’s drunk and harassed somebody or not.. This was just cruel using his child traumatizing him. Sad man..
When your ID is surrendered, police immediately search for warrants and if someone with a similar name is found ... guess what, their mistake can ruin your life.
@@MooresvilleWayne yup. Embarrassing even after all this and having it explained to him multiple times he STILL thought he could arrest someone while detained for not identifying. He should’ve been fired immediately.
Because it’s normal for them to do things like that. They do shit like that to scare people and usually it works. It’s sad how they act towards people!
@@LackLusterMedia You'd be doing the community a service. Seriously.. You could do it for each respective county. Make a nice little subscription service out of it!!
If there was no footage of this happening, Jack would have been arrested, booked and served time and would have no case for a lawsuit. Truly terrifying.
They don’t care if they have the wrong person,,, as long as they get the thrill of bullying and pushing someone around, they’re happy. Overzealous, ignorant stupidity.
Overzealous ignorant stupidity? How about breaking the fucking laws? Wtf dude how about corrupt? @16:30 does the officer need his full body gear on? Does he sleep in that getup? Is he low I.Q.?
If it takes a half hour to explain to someone that you can't force someone to identify until they've been arrested for another crime, then they aren't smart enough to be a cop. If it takes more than 5 minutes to explain this to someone, they shouldn't be a cop.
Thank you Also lied about getting info on his vehicule , unlawfull arrest, escalated the conflict which could result in creating danger where there was none Ive been in many countrys but never seen a police force so weird as in US
How can jack file a lawsuit, Jack has nothing do with the case he only posted the video on his channel? Jack's not even a attorney he's a former officer
It can be for the invidual since most cops will hurt them if they don't. I don't think you should give your id, but at the same time look what can happen because of poorly trained cops. People can say oh that is an easy lawsuit to win, but most people don't have the time and resources to persue a lawsuit.
He wasn't really doing that good because when you realize that they had arrested him without cause he tried to make them say that he did something else so he could justify it
@maxxcarver5502 it sure would! That should be the bare minimum! My pipe dream is law enforcement treated as a profession, like lawyers, doctors, nurses, teachers & social workers. That way they would have to earn a license, which could be taken away by the licensing board. And once the board takes away their "license to practice," they can't just move to a different area!
nah they're doing pre intimidation tactics because this is a huge ass lawsuit for texas. Trying to scared the father that his information is out there now.
Even if it was a mistake, like scanning the un-redacted copy by mistake, why would we believe them now? Too much crap has been exposed about police bull crap tactics.
I firmly believe they did it accidentally by typing random numbers and letters, just all the stars aligned the wrong way and it turned out to be his exact info.
Not completely...he still said something along the Lines of "release him but tell him that if he doesnt Want this to happen, he have to let us violate his rights".
I am a victim of police brutality (was tased 7x) for “disturbing the peace” because I was in savasana on a Sunoco property (WITH manager permission) and I couldn’t afford a detainee fee for a lawyer so the case went to hell because i was uneducated at the time. Sadly it’s not easy for everybody to sue :/
The most upsetting is the final segment interviewing the cop after he had “re-educated” himself and he still got it wrong. Allowing such a slow learner to remain on the force puts the public in danger.
At that point it’s no longer “ignorance”… it’s “stupidity” the man is just incapable of understanding a simple principle that has been explained to him over and over again.. that he read over and over.. he’s simply a moron, should be a cop, shouldn’t have a gun.. no sharp objects or small appliances.. too stupid to be trusted!!!
He is absolutely a threat to the public. This isn't an officer of the law. Just because he has a badge, doesn't give him that title. His actions are complete bs. IA sounded like they knew it, yet still allow him his job. That's scary
"Senior officer" meaning he has been ignorant of this simple law his entire career. That's a scary thought. Also, denying the father's request to keep his child nearby was disgusting. Good luck with the lawsuit!
Since when is a Walmart employee, a certified child care provider for the state? I would sue them on that fact alone! To let a stranger take a helpless child, without any vetting, is absurd, to say the least. Child abuse, and neglect, would be one of the charges.
This is similar to what I wrote also. That woman could have walked out that door at anytime without being noticed. It’s the police that endangered the child’s not the father. He should sue on that alone.
Just imagine the immense amount of lies that law enforcement has told the court before body cameras have been implemented. Even knowing that they are wearing cameras how they still lie. Insane.
My late brother was a police officer and he told me that those judges would believe the officer over any body even if they were lying. This was before cameras.
Officer "WEB" of lies is a god damned disgrace, the other 2 tyrants just as bad. They still don't think they did anything wrong and these armed morons still don't understand 38.02.... they still remain law breaking tyrants to the end.
Bottom line if a cop falsely arrests someone, they should lose their job because all it shows is the cop isn't taking his job seriously and neglecting his duty to learn and know the law. Just like there's no excuse for citizens to be ignorant of the law same should go for police.
Most cops get off on bullying. All they want is to get the bust. You see after they let him go the Corporal was showing disdain toward his Seargent, behind his back for over ruling him. It is frightening that law enforcement officers are ignorant of the law. This is a nationwide problem. This cop will do this again if they do not take him out of law enforcement. He is far too ignorant to learn from a slap on the wrist.
The walmart supervisor seemed like he knew that was bs. Trying to solicit a tresspass from him and he said "what did he do" and the story they told him was of an illegal arrest. The supervisor responded "uhh, yeah, no, we're fine". Basically like "oh awesome, you just arrested one of my paying customers for no reason in my store and in front of his child. Thanks for wrapping us up in your lawsuit."
@@xendava9360 No one called the cops on him. He didn't even fit the description (no jeans, too short) and they lied about knowing whose car it was (no one described a car to them).
It always boggles my mind how dumb cops are: "Sir, we got a call that you might be drunk driving with your son" Well... I'm not drunk and I'm not driving. "I need your ID before I can tell if you are drunk! Your ID will tell me everything." Amazing.
Who knew an I'd could determine whether your drunk or not. I hate it when a cop uses the whole oh well I need your I'd to make sure your not doing something wrong or what ever. Its disgusting!
@@war32mec Oh yeah, according to all cops your ID will tell them everything and then they don’t have to investigate, yes actually investigate a crime before doing what they did to this poor guy. You are always guilty until proven innocent in a cops eyes.
They always do that and neglect the actuall investigation, wich has to be prior to ID, dispite unlawfully. Imagine he ID, then what? Nothing really changes! So why are they so dumb? No need for laws, just common sense, it's ridículous
Hey, I need media attention here in Austin TX! I was unlawfully arrested twice AND Austin Police made me homeless by taking away my home where I lived for around 2 years. I have no criminal background and even have 15 years working for the state of NJ. I can't find a lawyer that will help me in any of my cases. I even lost feeling in a few fingers due to the last arrest where I wasn't even charged for anything.
@@owenjamesk they aren't done yet! Every 2-3 weeks the Austin PD or State Troopers come and perform unwarranted raids on the homeless! They take all of our stuff and everything we spent money on to try and rebuild what they destroyed gets thrown away and destroyed. What's the point of panhandling for money when we can't even spend it on shoes and cloths knowing it'll all be taken away in a few weeks?! They took 3 dog bowls, 4-5 bags of dog food and 3 gallons of water plus leashes and collars for other homeless dogs that I brought! What the dog do??!
"You're going to have to arrest him for something else then" is probably the biggest issue in this video. If you realize you made a mistake, release them. Don't fucking double down.
It's because police are trained in Ego and tyranny, which doesn't allow the acceptance of responsibility or admitting your wrong. . They are not trained in the law or Rights.
detaining isn't arrest or is?..... otherwise they would be afraid to arrest real offenders, who look like normal people....But the ID probably can not be shown before detaining, because of possible police corruption. I like the fact that the police want to be careful and prevent crime. Think about the fact that cops want to prevent crime or car crashes....but during the prevention, they may hurt somebody´s feelings....but he doesn't want to hurt someone o purpose, he just wants to prevent the crime.
Mentioned this previously but not surprise they didn't use the old phony disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and interfering with a police officer charges.
I hope he can retire after the lawsuit is over. "We're going to arrest you, and CPS is going to take your child." What an appalling representation of a police force.
@@timothywilliams7264 i dont even know what these morons would have done with knowing who he is. What does that have to do with a intoxicated person. All that and because they are so stupid the real person managed to drive off.
Rather common move far as i know and even more prevalent when it comes to fathers, since they know wife or worse the mother (as in divorced) will throw such hissy fit for not giving ID, that its already cruel punishment alone to deal with that shit, leading at worse case father loosing parental rights to his kid when ex brings this up in court.
Yeah these cops clearly don't know much about the law and investigative procedures. They were dumb enough to take the word of Walmart employees when they should had went to check on the Cameras to properly get more information about the drunk driver first. If I was Jack; I would had sued Walmart corporation for hiring stupid employees landing him with a false arrest. Even if the Cops acted in "Good Faith;" there still must be reasonable suspicion to prove that you committed a crime or was about to.
Damn they really separated him from his 3yo daughter and left the kid with complete strangers just because of a random call. I hate how people can call the police about anything they want, make up lies, and get people arrested for it. This is absolutely ridiculous.
@@FitzChivalry i wonder how many white male , brown curly hair ppl were in Walmart that day? And how did they conclude he was the most likely person to be the person the call was about. I would love to know the rationale for that.
Sgt Holt: Alright, release him. Explain to him that there was a mistake in the understanding of the law... Officer Francis: Mr Miller, after talking with my sergeant, you have a misunderstanding of the law.
HOLY SHIT He literally repeats the exact issue that got him into that meeting and says that if someone doesn’t ID during detainment he would escalate to arrest. Idiot doesn’t know why he’s being reprimanded still…
At the time that I am making this comment, you have 100+ 'likes'. HOW?!?! It should have at least a thousand+ upvotes... the guy is repeating his own mistake(!!!). Ugh, lol.
I’m not a cop and have ZERO training and I can grasp this basic principle. My jaw dropped when I hear this guy say he brushed up on the law then go on to repeat the exact same incorrect interpretation of the law. I would have fired him on the spot. It’s like telling someone 1+1=2 then asking them what’s 1+1 and they say “3”. If he wasn’t a cop this would be hilarious, but some he is it’s scary. And the sergeant was just so disappointed that he couldn’t book this guy on something and had to let him go.
No one could identify these cops as smart people. 😂😂 especially that FOOL at the end in his interview 😂😂. Went thru training, 30 mins reviewing 1 THING! With his sgt, and STILL HAS 0 CLUE. 😂😂😂😂
, ,it's in their moniker , LEO , LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, . And they thought a few hours makes them knowledgeable about the law . And their ego makes them above the law . Human's make mistakes, But not as repeat offenders .
It absolutely baffles me that these police officers, who are acting under the guise of protecting the child, leave the child with a random, unidentified (cops are all about getting that ID), Walmart employee. Shows that they really couldn’t care less about the child, it’s about stealing a citizen’s freedom, no matter what!!!
omg...I would have been livid...they first threaten to have his child taken from him and then leave his child with a complete stranger...why didn't they ask the lady for her ID...that child could have been gone forever...for all they knew...HOnestly I don't know how any one watching these video can have any hope...
It's called the dumbing down of America. We have more information than ever before, but we are increasingly incapable of effectively using that information. In other words in days gone by most people alive had common sense hence the name common sense. Today common sense is an oxymoron. We have made our society so safe that we keep people alive that have no common sense. We just seemed to be running out of competent people to fill the necessary positions.
This cop is too stupid to be a crossing guard. Why is he still employed is beyond me. Some municipalities seem to have no standards at all. I live in a suburb of Milwaukee. The cops here are professional and courteous. They write too many traffic tickets, but to be fair, our drivers are some of the worst.
The worse part of all this was the threat of having CPS take his son. Bullying at it's best and therefore it's worse. Disgusting. And they wonder why the police get such a bad wrap.
i say sue them big & have them really fired with making threats of harm to myself or the kid in any way... im disable if they did that to me that cop or so will have a class F felony with a fine & jail time also i make that cop lose his job on the spot banned from apply for any cop job for life & make his or her ass homeless
I know.. imagine being at a store with your baby doing nothing wrong and having a bunch of armed thugs, threaten to take your children away from you and proceed to do exactly that. These cops need to be sued personality. Down with qualified immunity! Maybe if their own money is on the line they will actually take the time to read up on the rules and learn how to actually do their job
Strange especially considering it's coming from people who often claim they "know" the law. Just another one of the lies they tell in order to keep sucking their disgusting living off the taxpayer tit.
The most amazing part is the interview afterwards: He says he has reviewed the law since then and realizes he was wrong. Then he gets it wrong AGAIN, right then and there. At that same interview.
Yep, #Fire Francis. I mean at this point would you trust him to work the streets? Hes a dang walking liability. I'd assign him to some desk somewhere doing repetitive data entry or something.
@@RH-cv1rg Yes, that'd be my first inclination. I can't believe someone helping to cause a $250K lawsuit, minimum, can't make the effort to understand 38.02. It's his job, literally, after all. #fire Francis.
It doesn’t matter how many times he reads or reread the laws, he is as DUMB AS A QUACK. Funny to note that these dumb fools are the ones the police force wants to hire. They cannot be educated and impossible to train to know laws so he is the perfect candidate to be a ROBOT corrupt COP.
Those officers should lose their qualified immunity, be terminated, sued and assult charges filed and prosecuted. The put that man's life in a possibly horrible position by calling cps and threatening to remove his son; these things are life damaging and those officers should be held accountable!!!
When your stupid you can always fall back on the old, "I was ignorant of the law." That only works for the Officer. Doesn't work for a citizen. Officer still doesn't understand how he fu*ked up after have it explained to him.
James ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dObH28ekBeaE.html you'll love this COPS of 30 years + never heard of the 1st Amendment or Bill of Rights. This is Socialism in our Policing, Illiteracy, Ignorance, Personal Law, Unlawful Orders, Unlawful Arrests, Unlawful Detainment, Unlawful suspicion, Recently dropped the qualifications to graduate. Abusing Law ALL Police must memorize the Constitution before given a Gun a Badge. That's the ONLY way they can Protect The Law. 90% of arrests are illegal. People are stupid. Children should have the Constitution Memorized, there would be less Ignorance on Earth and more respect
@@jsmith-u5i Are you just not aware that the Supreme Court’s interpretation of what you just typed is that it “protects all except the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law”? “I didn’t know that this was bad” or “Well, that rule is kinda iffy to me…” don’t work for regular people in civil court. It also encourages the justice system to deliberately stay as vague as possible, which is why the word ‘reasonable’ is thrown around so loosely as well as encouraging police to stay as ill-informed as possible about the updates to a situation in progress so that if they *do* make a mistake, they can just point to the old contemporary knowledge excuse. …People who love to defend QI always act like it’s so incredibly limited, but if that were the case, then there’d be no reason to fight to preserve it rather than just “having your day in court” like everyone else.
Why does it seem like police want to arrest people that are not breaking the law? If I were a police officer, I would want to arrest someone that was breaking the law, not a random citizen that I thought might be a reported intoxicated subject who doesn't even fit the description. I have a friend who's a homicide detective and he told me that there are four different types of people that are a police officers; people that do it because they want to help people, people that do it because it's just a job, bullies, and the bullied. The last two are the worst to deal with.
Not only,(educated on people's rights) BUT, IMAGINE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF INNOCENTS,,. HAVE GONE TO PRISON AND HAVE A RECORD, DUE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE THIS!!! EVEN BEFORE VIDEOS!!!!!
Fatfukc will continue violating peoples’ rights because he has no real interest in the law or the job. He’s just collecting a paycheck, hanging around for a pension.
i'm glad someone pointed that out. it's very disrespectful to chew gum during an official interview by your superiors. I was once eating at a restaurant and i noticed a lady sitting down to a job interview nearby. she was wearing a spaghetti strap tank top that also showed her navel and pajama pants.
thats not gum...hes trying to keep his pea brain from falling out of the lil hole. Usually he knock his own head around violently (esp when falsly arresting a young dad while his son is traumatized) to change holes & win prizes
Being an LEO SHOULD be an honorable profession for which members are seriously trained in enforcing the laws we all must live by.To the eternal shame of every LEO that takes the job seriously and performs it honorably the standards used for hiring officers these days, as well as the training they go through, have been dumbed down to the point we seem to get mostly ignorant thugs that are little more than a disaster waiting to happen.
You do know they only hire people below 100 IQ right? This is expected, they don't hire smart people they hire people who will follow rules and not ask questions, they don't need thinkers they need people who don't have enough brain cells to calculate the Hypotenuse of a triangle, but enough to pull the trigger of a gun.
How is it possible that almost every single cop doesn't know the most basic fundamentals of their career choice..... or do they all just play dumb to use qualified immunity?
The officer being interviewed at the end STILL doesn’t understand he can’t force people to tell him who they are when detained. Never needs a badge, gun, or authority over anyone.
He understands, you don't. He doesn't care in the slightest. Psychopaths never do. Those who hired him know exactly the personality type they are hiring before they ever pull the trigger. The problem is much higher up.
They were looking for someone driving drunk with a kid. They find Jack, sober shopping in store with kid. This proves that they escalated to power tripping because he wouldn't give ID! Disgusting
Operating a shopping 🛍 cart under the influence of hunger and consumerism is absolutely grounds for a public beat down in a WalMart by agents of the New World Order of totalitarianism. Get with the program!
Well Tammy, you got it right. That's the only reason that came to mind, arresting that man was a retribution for refusing to id himself to oink oink cop.
They certainly did. They displayed power abuse, he was in the store shopping not in his vehicle. And he had the wrong color clothes on. Cops over stepped boundaries and arrested him under false pretense. I hope he wins the lawsuit Punk ass cops
I predict that cop wont be happy being on that force much longer, they will likely fire him, then he will get hired the next day in an area PD. Welcome to police accountability
Get rid of Qualified Immunity and stop hiring ex-Military, most of which say they had PTSD but the police departments get compensation from the Federal Government for hiring these PTSD officers
"Der... we are conducting an intoxicated person investigation. So, in order to tell if you are intoxicated, we need you to identify yourself or you will be under arrest for nothing. We don't care that you aren't intoxicated at this point. We are just really annoyed that a peasant won't do what we want, even if it's not even a law. Der"
"Release him, and instead of apologizing, give him unlawful directives and make him feel like he still did something wrong, even though we couldn't solicit a complainant after trying extensively."
They think that the more serious they can make "the call" sound, the less rights that means for the citizen/suspect, the cops ignorance is truly astonishing here,😧, so this guy is suppose to know and protect my rights, right?😨
They were protecting the child from entering a car with a drunk guy, although the drunk guy didn't seem really drunk, per se, but was standing, sorta minding his own business and waiting to purchase his goods. That's odd don't you think. He seemed reasonably pleasant although a little annoyed, but he DID have hair. He did have hair. And a kid. He had hair AND a child. I think the cops did pretty good if I do say so myself.
Qualified immunity makes no sense. It was devised decades ago under the premise that government organizations don't have enough money to pay for their mistakes. But, if they can't pay for their mistakes, then the organization shouldn't exist because it means they do more harm than benefit.
Good to know the sergeant educated his subordinates instead of trying to con the victim with an unlawful arrest. He knows he needs to keep the public on their good side.
"We got a call about an intoxicated driver and we determined it was that guy" No, you threatened, bullied and abused him, kidnapped his son and drug him out of the store because he wouldn't ID when he doesn't legally have to. You didn't determine anything
Surly the whole point of the call was the person was intoxicated, so why was he not breath tested. How does giving a name make you intoxicated. I cannot get my head around why police need a name or/and ID, what does giving your name prove in the case of the complaint. The only thought that comes to mind is a police data base.
@@TheByard It makes their job easier if they can find a warrant for your arrest. That gives them more time to build their case against you for something else.
Not to mention the dude is still making the same mistake.... The end of the video he says "Yes I have re educated myself keep it refreshed in my mind and now I know that if someone is detained they must give ID" the guy sat infront of a camera & trainers telling them he still doesn't understand you can't demand ID in that situation fuck me 😂
Got one MORE Scarier for ya... You tell me cops 30 years + never heard of Bill of Rights, 1st Amendment, gets better ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dObH28ekBeaE.html Fascism Certified with GUNS, to Protect The Constitution, The BOOK they Swore Their Oath On. They never heard of ...
Unfortunately, in Ohio, according to the aclu web site, one is REQUIRED to provide your name, address, and date of birth if a law enforcement officer asks. One may refuse to answer any other questions.
he was trying to give him a hint about what he should say and what reason he should give. He knew his conversation was recorded and it would give him the opportunity of some sort of made up defends for his actions.
@@humblephi473 Which is why that individual should be fired. He's a bad egg, and he's coaching an officer who is owning up to his mistake (doesn't make it ok, but at least he's honest about it) on how to game the system to screw the civilian.
I agree however. Partially. In this case it’s a matter of incompetence and ignorance of the law. Which is obviously bullshit for a cop to be but here we are. Now this guy is clearly so incompetent that he should be moved into the later category with those who deliberately make a false arrest. As in the know it’s bs and it’s purely a diligent illegal arrest. I do believe in a variance in punishment between ignorant/incompetent and deliberate acts.
What kills me is that this is all based on a single phone call that gave half assed information, and no follow-up was done before they just decided to arrest him.
This is all they do they get a call and they go make an arrest they don't do any type of investigating accept terrorize you for your ID. And this is why people misuse the police system on others
The cops didn't even know if this was same person that was reported! Hell you can go into any Walmart in the US and find a person to fit that description, seriously think about it.
After they searched the store for their "suspect" and couldn't find him, they decided to grab this kid with a TRUMP MASK and LIE about his description!!!!
