@@dukenukem8381 Ya but people said that about 'guns' being on aircraft at a time as well. Ironic that the F-35 wasn't designed with a gun... it has a bulge where they shoehorned a gun into the aircraft post development. lol
@@Alte.Kameraden The USAF made the F-35A requirements include it needs an inbuilt gun The US Navy and Marines did not make it a requirement and instead opted for gun pods Which historically has happened before, the USN never equipped their Phantoms with guns, nor used gunpods for A2A combat and still out performed USAF Gun armed phantoms
@@demanischaffer Sorry, but only the later E model had a built in gun in the nose. There were problems with the gun pod pylon not being rigid enough to allow accurate shooting. That is why the USAF wanted the nose gun. Plus their F-4s ended up being used for dogfighting, (along with bombing) which shaped their idea of a better Phantom. The AF was willing to adopt a smaller radar antenna, which allowed a nose gun to be fitted, something the USN was loathe to do. Fleet defense required a radar with a larger antenna dish for long distance interception, look at the F-14. What became Top Gun allowed the USN to boost their kill rate. This is to provide added information to the above.
When he walked in and saw the F-22 Raptor the bird of prey above it I don't think they have two of those they were very rare very specialized Air Force reconnaissance planes not going to see two of them in one spot
Chieftain with planes: "This is a plane of some sort, it flew once." Chieftain, anything with tracks: "This obscure tracked cart was once fitted with an anti-tank gun, let me write a blog entry about its whole development and testing."
Is it bad that I can't ever decide if I'm a tank guy or a plane guy? I've given up trying to decide really and now I can just ID most WW2 stuff but can't tell much about it. "Gee Tom you IDed that thing from across the hangar, only seeing its cockpit and nose section. How fast did it fly?" "Uhhh... Fast enough to fly?" "Gee Tom how did you manage to be able to identify things so well but you know absolutely nothing about them?" "It has guns"
The Convair F-106A Delta Dart on display there is the famous "Cornfield Bomber". In 1970 the pilot lost control & bailed out only for the Dart to land in a field suffering only minor damage & was repaired & returned to service. Very interesting story look it up!
Different B-26. The one in the last video was the Martin B-26 Marauder. The one in this video was the Douglas B-26 Invader. The confusion comes from the Invader being the A-26 during WWII and redesignated B-26 after the Marauder was retired. Special bonus neckbeardian trivia, the F-94 you showed is a B model which is Ak-Tchiually not a "Starfire". That name applies only to the F-94C model, according to Lockheed at the time.
In WW2 section was the A-26 light bomber which replaced the A-20 Havoc. The A-26 was renamed B-26 after Marauder retired. A number of B-26's were used in Korea painted all black or black on lower surfaces as night interdiction raiders. In cold war section the B-26 is a B-26K rebuilt to zero hour airframe for COIN ops by On Mark Corporation. They were used as COunter INsurgency aircraft and night interdiction in Vietnam but we're retired after a number were lost under questionable circumstances. Questions were raised about being too old and reliability issues.
.At some point, the B-26 Invaders in Vietnam were re-designated BACK to A-26, so the US could say "We Have No Bombers in SouthEast Asia" with a straight face.
The 2nd F-82 Twin Mustang shown in this vid was a important record breaker. On 27 February 1947, P-82B 44-65168, named Betty Jo and flown by Colonel Robert E. Thacker, made history when it flew nonstop from Hawaii to New York without refueling, a distance of 8,129 km (5,051 mi) in 14 hr 32 min. It averaged 347.5 miles per hour (559.2 km/h). This flight tested the P-82's range. This one was a earlier version that used the Merlin engine vs the latter models that used Allisons( less power/ No License fees). Col. Thacker became a well knowm figure in the RC Scale aircraft hobby through the 60-70's.
That one you saw in the video was actually the YF-22 prototype. But yes you are correct the F-22 is an AMAZING aircraft and to this day it still doesn't have an equal when it comes to air to air combat! Only the F-35 can say it is more advanced when it comes to all the technology it carries.
MississippiRebel Not trying to be rude but I’m pretty sure that is an F-22 not a yf-22. Pay attention to the angles on the nose and the thicker wings along with the shorter rudder stalks. Even so, it is great project all in all.
If you are anywhere near this museum, and have any interest at all you really need to just go. This is not a bad walk through but in real life this place is what the word awesome was made for!
As a native of the area I really hope you get to cover the rest of the museum. There's some really awesome developmental aircraft like a Valkyrie and Tacit Blue in their newest hangar. Which also houses various former presidential aircraft. Plus the missile/rocket gallery which houses the ICBM's.
The F-117 was specially restored to remove all of the special stealth materials, so I wouldn't draw any conclusions from the skin as it's displayed. They could indeed have just covered the underlying frame with kevlar or some other strong fabric and painted it black. The B-2 was a structural test model, and likely never had an "operational" exterior, too. At 23:27 you can even see some external braces under the wing that were added to make it safe for display. Also, the F-22 is actually a YF-22 prototype.
Serbs shot down an F-117 back in '99, the russians long have the "special stealth materials" from it's skin,they don't need to go to an American Museum to take pictures of it.So removing it from this plane was unnecessary.😉
Raul Alejandro Bastilla - You do realize there is a HUGE difference between the stealth on F-22 and F-35 than the very old F-117? Also having parts of an F-117 doesn't mean that Russia can copy it or know who to actually use it. Even today Russia still can't produce a true stealth aircraft. The Su-57 (which has been canceled) wasn't very stealthy.
I have to agree with you, Corsair II is one my favorite aircraft. Pretty much fell in love with it the first time I saw one as a kid while we were driving through the AFB my dad was at during his time in the Air Force.
My granddad was the navigator on that KC97 stratofreighter in the 60s and Viet nam. He remembered the tail number and pointed it out to us last time we were at the museum.
I think that black P-82 is one the CAF used to own, so that thing actually flew up until about the 80's when it had a crash, and was somewhat restored/kept by the CAF until about 10-15 years ago when the USAF museum bought it. Cool thing is that while it doesn't fly anymore someone recently just got another one back to flying condition this past year. So there's still at least one that flies!
I was there on during the debut week of the Belle, the entire week I spent several hours in the museum, except for Friday. I talked a bit with the pilot of that Jolly Green Giant, OK, I overheard some of his experiences in the bird during the Vietnam conflict. (He was visiting for the Belle's debut as well.) This is my favorite military museum. I started going there when they just had 2 hangars, the XB-70 and space missile displays were outside and the Annex had the presidential and experimental aircraft. All are now indoors and moved from the Annex to the fourth hangar, except for a select few displays. (The Valkyrie is an amazing aircraft, in any event, but well lit and clean it's even better.) Edit 1: The F-111 escape pod is new from when I was there.
Took my grandfather, who started his 30+ year aircrew career on Sabres bound for Korea to Dayton in 2016, he spent about 15 minutes looking at that panelles F-86. Great museum!!
XB-36 surplus tires were used by farmers as grain cart tires and also on some old Gleaner combines. We had about a dozen tires laying around when I was a kid.
@7:11 That F4 may have been one of the F4's that wasgiven to RAAF while waiting for the F111's and returned after the F111's were recieved by the RAAF!
@@malusignatius The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) operated 24 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II fighter-bomber aircraft in the ground attack role between 1970 and 1973. The Phantoms were leased from the United States Air Force (USAF) as an interim measure owing to delays in the delivery of the RAAF's 24 General Dynamics F-111C bombers. The F-4Es were considered successful in this role, but the government did not agree to a proposal from the RAAF to retain the aircraft after the F-111s entered service in 1973.
In the old days, when they only had two hangars, the B-36 dominated the hangar it was in the way you described the one in the other museum doing. Everywhere you went, there was a piece of the B-36 in the frame, like an uncle photobombing at a family reunion. I'm sure the new layout is superior in many ways easily understood by people versed in the Museum Sciences, but I'm a little sad that that's no longer the case.
the F4 phanton you saw was the actual F4 that col. Robin Olds flew in Vietnam. He was pissed that the museum fixed up the paint blemishes. Robin wanted the F4 to look as it did in war time attire. BTW, unofficially, Robin olds was an "ACE" in vietnam, but the USAF will not recognize his victories,,maybe because he ruffled too many feathers.
I was a nuclear weapons specialist and a munitions specialist in the Air Force. I built nukes for the Minuteman III program and conventional munitions for F-4Es, F-16s, and F-15As....I've got to get up to that museum...
Loving this! You may want to consider investing in a phone gimbal like the Smooth 4. They are affordable and will make these walkthroughs look so much better.
Heck yeah, that's a Woah moment. I immediately recognized the Peacemaker and was agog. I love that derpy, massive aircraft. It's an early Peacemaker, also, as it lacks the wingtip jet pods.
Enormous hangars, vast range of aircraft, it really makes evident the US belief in air power and the amount of resources invested in it over the years. Impressive.
It was nice to hear you mention the SAC Museum in Ashland, Nebraska. I'm from outside of Omaha and visited there many times as a child with my Air Force veteran grandfather. Many many fond memories.
I just came back from a motorcycle trip to the SAC museum last week.th aircraft there are good, but compared to the air Force museum, there is no comparison.
According to the museum write-up on this aircraft, while the serial number is indeed 91-4003, it was built in 1999 and first flew in 2000 at Edwards AFB with the 412th Test Wing. After testing, it went straight to the museum and never flew with the 1st Fighter Wing, so the paint job is a fabrication for display. I wish they had explained the 91-xxxx serial number since the prefix almost always is the year of manufacture followed by the number off the line.
@@birdmonster4586 You might want to check your dates. The F-22 was still barely ink on paper (or pixels even) in 1987. While the USAF recognized a need to replace the still-new F-15, the initial RFP on the ATF wasn't issued until 1985. FIrst flights of the YF-22 and -23 began in 1989 with first flights in The YF-22 on 29 Sep 1990. In April 1991, the USAF awarded the contract to the F-22. (This, I found out is why the first serial number was 91-4001, 91-4xxx for the year and month of the award.) The initial production run was the EMD (engineering, manufacturing and development) aircraft of which s/n 91-4001 was the first. These were not combat aircraft, but were used to further develop the airframe leading up to manufacture. EMD 91-4001 rolled off the line on March 6, 1997. First flight was on September 7 of that year. Front-line F-22s weren't operational until the end of 2005, almost 10 years after initial production, 20 years after the first ATF RFP, and 24 years after the USAF announced their desire for a replacement for the F-15. Keep in mind, the F-15 was still barely 8 years old in 1981, with the first F-15 models being produced in 1973, and many F-15s still flying today are over 30 years old, dating from the mid-80's.
Having been to numerous shows at March and also the museums of the WWII Fagen Fighters and also the one at Ellsworth, seeing the B-2& B-36 in the same hanger makes me really get how big the B-One I've seen is. Also seeing EVERYTHING BUT a mighty Tomcat in this one place, uhhhhhh yeah I MUST GO NOW.
Do not leave Dayton -- I repeat do not leave Dayton -- unless you go back and tour Hangar 4 before leaving town. Its the best one of the lot. That and the missile silos! Hoping you have a Part 3 to get your thoughts on the YF-12, XB70, X-15, Air Force Ones, and other doozies.
Two rather cool things you missed in Hangar 2, the Mig 15 on display is actually the only one to have defected from North Korea, it's pilot collecting the $100,000 reward for bringing the mig into Kimpo during the Korean War. Second, you can walk underneath the peacemaker and get a good look at the bays and the personnel tunnel running through the aircraft.
Cool! My son and I camped out at Warner Robbins with the Boy Scouts and went to the museum. We also got to go see the experimental hangar where they keep the X-29 and other stuff.
Wright-Patt has a SAC B-52 flight for years and years - you can still see the pilots semi-underground huts they would be in and the short tunnel they would come out of to get to the B-52s off of Highway 235 near Skypor..... - I mean the old Skyborn drive in movie theater.
7:10 Looks like the Museums page is down, but if i had to hazard a guess i'd say it'll be because it would be one of the 24 F-4Es the RAAF leased while awaiting their F-111 order. Alternatively it could be flown by a RAAF crews working with mixed in USAF crews which happened a little bit during Vietnam.
I have 3 actual jumps from a OV-10, the rear of the center fuselage comes off and there is a slim bench you straddle. Only 3 jumpers at a time, and the last man is the only person who has a seat belt. When your over the DZ, the aircraft pitches up and the jumper releases the seat belt and you slide out.
Wild seeing the F117 Nighthawk after seeing the RU-vid videos of it being video’d flying in 2021 in Star Wars Canyon with 2 F16’s. Why on earth is it still flying I wonder when it was “retired” long ago?
Actually the tail numbers of Air Force aircraft denote what fiscal year they were ORDERED, not built. That F-22 you see at 0:29 was actually built in 1999/2000 but ordered in 1991 after the YF-22 won the ATF competition as part of the pre-production prototypes of the operational F-22. That particular one was overstressed to something like 14G by accident during testing in 2002 and as a result it was retired from the Combined Test Force and made a museum piece.
Alright, if memory serves Australia, the RAAF operated for a while a pretty small number of F4 Phantoms while issues with the F111 were being resolved. Less than five years short amount of time. So perhaps the white roo is there to show that it was a leased aircraft/good luck marking/I'm really hitting the bottom of the barrel here. And I think I have a new place I need to visit.
Wasn't the B26 later designated A26? Similar to P types changed to F? P51- F51. The Pima Air & Space Museum on the Southern tip of Tucson, AZ is an excellent choice for lovers of aviation, just not in July or August. They give tours of the airplane graveyard, and about 20 miles south is their Titan missile museum. There you get to go down to the control/launch room, crew quarters and the missile, still standing in it's silo.
A-26s could have an obscene amount of MGs. 6 in the wing, 8 in underwing pods, 8 in the nose and 8 in fuselage side pods. Also the turret up top could fire forward. So theoretically you could have an A-26 with 32 forward-firing M2s. I don't know if it was ever done but the hardware was there to do it.
That Kangaroo on the F-4 must be MagzTV, being up to no good Also, an easy way to tell the MiG-15 and 17 apart is the wing fences, the 15 only has 2 where the 17 has 3
At 12:43 in this video: There are still bits of one of those buried a couple hundred feet down in a farm field not too far from Goldsboro, North Carolina. From a *_Broken Arrow_* incident of a crashed B-52 in January of 1961. Two H-bombs were released. The other was recovered sticking out of the ground. {The one sticking out of the ground was slowed by parachute before going _splat._ The other nuke was not slowed - its parachute got shredded or something - and it *_augured-in_* at 600+ MPH, according to what I have read.} I have ALSO READ a comment saying if either nuke had fully armed and detonated, the *_"Bay of North Carolina"_* would now exist where the Goldsboro is located....
looks like theyve rearranged a bit since i was last there (memphis belle debut). always get a big kick out of seeing the b-47 as a family friend, majpr ralph lusk, was the test pilot on the rb-47. they used to have some of his gear on display but they rotated it off display awhile ago. one of his favorite stories hed tell me was how a floating compass saved his and his copiliots butt when they had an electrical failure in the cockpit in bad weather. the compass wheel is floating on a post sealed in oil. well, her used the angle of tilt on it as an artificial horizon to get down below the weather and land safely.
The Royal Australian Air Force flew F-4's for a couple of years before we received the F-111s We were almost going to keep them and use them for CAS but the Costs and Manpower requirements were too much so we sent them back. The one in the Melbourne Museum is an Ex-USAF one the was just painted up to look like an 82nd squadron .
That B29 dropped 1,250 US tons of bombs. Roughly the equivalent weight of a Clemson class destroyer, 38 M4A3(76)W HVSS Sherman tanks, or dropped the weight of its own bomber 33 times over.
2.5 million pounds of bombs dropped means a bit over 200 sorties at typical bomb loads for Korea. Or less if some of those missions were dropping Grand Slam bombs, during which missions it could haul 45000lbs of bombs (2 Grand Slams).
B-29 Jet Ace stats are pushing it a little bit, but still in the realm of believability; 2,500,000 pounds over 121 missions just tips the scales at over 20,600 pounds per mission. This is within the payload limit of a B-29A, and well within the payload limit of a B-29B. Plausible and possible, just a little at the fringes.
You really want to ruffle some feathers ask him about the Kettering bug cuz it should be up there in the ceiling right next to the global hawk and The Predator Excedrin carry bug was the first drone I think it was 1813
Did you try the augmented reality area for D-Day in hanger 2? I did it in May and just watching the older folks trying to use the tablets was both funny and sad at the same time
thanks for the walkthrough. I might suggest that you study the difference between a Martin B-26 and a Douglas A-26. They are both deadly machines, but only the Douglas version soldiered on.
Ah yes Starfighter... Great plane to fly, bad plane to fight, worse thing to be in during engine failure then it will have a balistic trajectory to the ground...
@The Chieftan >>> At about 11:28 in this video: I was actually kind of thinking the same thing regarding that engine and nozzle assembly being on display...😊
