다시 보니까 제시 진짜 대단한 사람이다.. 부당하다고 생각한 점에 대해서 저렇게 많은 사람들이 보는데 즉흥랩을 하다니.. 어렸을때는 왜 이렇게 화를내지? 라고 생각했는데 지금보니까 제시 입장이 이해가가네.. 업무평가했는데 일 제일 잘한사람 최하로 준거아니야.. 사유는 분위기 가라앉게 만든다고.. 나같아도 개빡칠듯
@@Hello7775.남들과 다른 길을 보고 그 길이 더 좋다고 깨달아서 이끌어가려 하는데 고전 방식을 고수하는 사람들 입장에선 그건 틀린길이고 개인주의고 이기적이고 다르기 때문에 팀분위기를 망치는거지. 자신을 믿어주고 서포트해주고 생각이 맞는 소속사에서 들어가서 이뤄낸 결과가 증명해준다.
@@무무-t9v de esos otros que juzgaron a Jessi dónde están ahora,mira dónde está Jessi y el éxito que tiene y mira a los demás que han logrado aparte de nada.Para la gente que no somos de Korea solo conocemos a Jessi,, no tengo ni idea quienes son las demás.
그러니까 니들이 뭔데 날 판단해란 말이 나오지ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 설령 랩으로 평가했더라도 아마추어가 경력자한테 평가하는 꼴인데... 제시가 많이 내려놓고 프로그램에 나온 거임 자기랑 비슷한 실력이라도 있으면 할맛 나는데 나와보니까 다 별로인데 별로인 애들이 자기를 판단하니까 화가 난거지
난 제시 관심도없고 저 상황도 모르지만 할말을 할수없는 숨막히는 한국 사회속에서 지금의 제시가 빛난건 우리랑 사상이달라서, 튀는행동이 많아서 불편했던게 아니라 어쩜 누구나 한번쯤 해보고싶은 행동인것같다 나는 못한다 저렇게 죽어도 진짜 일그만두거나 두번다시 안볼것같을땐 물론 저렇게 잘하지 동그란세상이니까 언제만날지모르니까 나는오늘도 참는다 그리고 제시가 통쾌하고 부럽고 멋있다
That's so Jessi: honest, blunt, straightforward. I've watched some variety shows and talk shows where she became the guest and trust me, she's just being straightforward
I love her because she neither cares about what others think of her nor her attitude.She has a very high self confidence and charisma . She gets me satisfied just by watching her on tv bc she says whatever comes to her mind (& sometimes what ever comes to mine ) ✌🏻️😁
ㄹㅇ 솔직히 옛날엔 센척한다 욕 존나 먹긴 했는데 지금 와서 보면 깡다구가 세긴 함. 단체로 자기 꼽주는 와중에 본인이 느끼기에 부당한 평가를 그냥 참고 있지 않는게 확실히 한국인 마인드는 아님. 저기서 타이미가 좆같게 했는데도 이후에 타이미가 신지민보다 잘했는데 떨어진 거에 대해 앞에서 지적하는 것도 그렇고
이거는 솔직히 레전드 아니냐 솔직히 한국 힙합 뭐 랩 프로그램 많지만 이 장면이 1등이라 생각한다 ㄹㅇ 걍 순수한 랩으로 실력과 기 ~ 썬을 제압함 그와중에 지코 혼자 감탄하는거 개웃김ㅋㅋㅋㅋ저 때야 왜저러냐 그런 말들도 있었지만 그건 당연히 한국방송에서 나올 수 밖에 없는 분위기였고 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ당시에도 제시 실력 없단 소리는 아무도 안했음 저때 진짜 지렸으니까 인생을 바꾼 터닝포인트
제시 진짜 ㅈㄴ 사랑한다.... 자기가 할말 다 하고.. 아니 ㅋㅋ 와 제시 말이 다 맞네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ씹간지여 그래 이게 힙합이지 평가가 왜 저딴식 이야 실력 그 자체로만 판단해야지 ㅋㅋ 지민 얘가 왜 일등 했은지 아직도 이해 안가 제시가 늦게 뜨긴 했지만 뭐 다른애들은 제시만큼 못뜸 ㅜㅜ 제시 누가 뭐래도 오래 가자~ ㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡ 좋아요 감사합니다.. 저 근데 쓰기 기차나ㅋㅋ(이 알림이 ㅂㄷㅂㄷ 그래도 제가항상 드러와요오) ㅜㅜ 고마워요오 (1.5천 감사아~)으아 감사합니다
+Jennifer Malsawmzuali SAME! CL isnt the best rapper out there but her POWER , Confidence in such a male dominated area is beautiful and boss! that's why CL is looked a lot of times with this respectable aura! and jessi became the most famous out of all of tthese rappers here because of her confidence that shined out more.
Jessi always speaks real FACTS only this is why I respect her. Her being blunt and straightforward is better than being sneaky behind someone’s back, because that would be fake and lame.
뭐랄까 외국에서 온 회사원이 싫은 건 싫다고 말하는 성격이라 회식참여나 아부는 안하는데 일을 엄청 잘하고 경력도 긴데 승진시험볼 때 분위기 흐린다는 이유때문에 승진시험 참가도 못하게 하는데 일을 진짜 못하는 애가 승진시험에서 다른 애들이 몰아줘서 승진한 것때문에 억울해서 화내는 느낌?
Rough trans: she says while raising her hands " wait ive got tp say somethng" and then she says " In this 10 year long career n one has insulted me but yesterday i did feel ba" then the girl sitting the chair says" wae?(why)" "jessi says"bcuz who r you all to judge me"
맞다 진짜 - 티파니가 어디서 말했듯이 10년차 래퍼인 제시를 이제 시작하는 언더그라운드 래퍼들과 대결하게 하는것 부터 어이없는데 투표보니 랩경연인데 랩에 대한 얘기가 한톨도 없고 고분 얌전하게 우린 다 참는데 왜 안그러냐고 분위기 다운 시키냐고, 팀인데 같은 팀인 나한테 잘안해주냐고, 그런 이유로 투표를 저렇게 하니 당사자는 그냥 어이없고 이걸 랩경연으로 제대로 이해도 못하는 사람들 사이에서 화날 것 같다. 뭔가 힙합 정신을 실제로 삶에 적용하는게 아니라 겉만 멋있어 보일려고 힙합 매너리즘이나 옷이나 따라하는 사람들 사이에서 실제로 힙합 정신을 갖고 살아가는 진정한 래퍼 느낌 - 왜냐면 이런 깡이 힙합이지 랩하면서 욕 몇마디 좀 섞으면서 쎈척하는건 중학생도 할수 있다
@@fiatasfia5099 What this comment is tryin to tell is that other perticipators judged Jessy with her 'attitude' not her 'performance' and commenter thinks it's absurd. Also he mentioned that she is the only person who has real hiphop spirit. (Sorry about my english. Hope you understand)
Honestly, when I watched this episode I became very frustrated. And after reading this comment section, I became even more frustrated with the trolls. Think in Jessi's perspective. One thing Jessi hates is when someone doesn't have the balls to talk shit to her face, but they'll do it behind her back. And that's exactly what some of those girls did. She admitted that it wasn't her best but also felt that they didn't judge her fairly, they came up with excuses like "She brought the mood down" and "She didn't have teamwork" etc etc. when they should've judged her off her skills. but in reality they knew how good she is and they felt threatened. Don't mistake being a "bully" for being straightforward and honest; not once did she bully them. They were automatically scared of her from the beginning. Don't confuse confidence with cockiness and arrogance. Jessi has confidence, that's why she's able to rap smoothly, go with the flow, and own her shit. That other girl, Tyme or whatever, is arrogant af just bcos she's older and she thinks she has more experience. Lil Cham was just full of herself, and I honestly felt like she was there for the wrong reasons. They both kept forgetting their rhymes, and they both should've been eliminated from the beginning too. I thought it was a no brainer. Overall, I understand why Jessi got mad and I don't blame her. I just wish I got to see her slap a few bitches, lord knows I wanted to.
I think it was just a clash of cultures. Americans are upfront and don't like that beating around the bush shit but then Koreans are also straightforward in a way that they think is helpful but Americans consider rude (e.g. "You have a lot of acne today, need some creamer?").
+PewPew but those girls never even said anything to her. Like during a battle between Lil Cham and Jessi, Lil Cham said she wanted to ask Jessi why Jessi didn't have any manners towards people around her. but she could've asked her the moment Jessi dissed her or even after, but she waited for the battle and even then she couldn't even say what she wanted to say to Jessi.
Lalalalyssa_ True. I'm not Korean so I only know so much about their culture from RU-vid videos and what not, but perhaps direct confrontation is heavily avoided if you don't know someone well? And maybe they were just scared of her? Some people have that commanding presence anywhere. You do what they say and don't ask questions. It's also natural to conform. So if no one has the balls to confront her, no one will and they'll continue to be passive aggressive. But if one person says "WTF is your problem?" then all the others with issues will follow. That's exactly how it worked when Jessi, herself, brought up the issue. Some wanted to stay out of the drama while others like Tymee fought back. So I'm glad Jessi brought the issue to the forefront because no one likes being talked about, especially by an entire group.
Lalalalyssa_ Even to her superiors which is unheard of in Korea. I think that's why JYP likes her so much - because he's very acquainted with American culture. YG would love her too if they gave her a chance since Teddy Park is American and they love to cast foreigners who can bring that true Western spirit to their country.
Not a perfect translation but I saw a lot of people wanted English subs. Starting from 0:31 Jessi: Hold on, I have something to say. San-E: What? Tymee: What? Why are you standing? Jimin: I was holding hands with Jidam, and we were saying “What do we do? What do we do?” “I don’t know!” San-E: What is it? Is it something serious? Jessi: Ok, well first off, yesterday I unfortunately was eliminated. During my 10-year musical career or singing on this stage, I have struggled and have been misunderstood because of my English accent and not-so-good Korean pronunciation But, out of my whole life, ever since the day I was born, yesterday was the day that upset me the most. Tymee: Why? Jessi: Why? Because who are you to eliminate me? Tymee: Aish *laughs Jessi: C’mon. First off, someone who disappointed me the most was Jolly V. Jolly V was in my team, but what did she say to me? She told me there was no teamwork. But we’re not a team, we’re not a team (in Korean). It’s every man for themselves, right? We’re not a team, this is a competition. This is a competition (in Korean). Jolly V: She was saying, “In the end, this is all a competition, right?” But, using her words, yes it is a competition so it should not matter who I choose to eliminate in the end - it’s not betrayal… Jessi: And, I have nothing to say to you (pointing to Lil Cham) Then “this *beep” Jessi: Who else is there? I have nothing to say to you too (to Kisum) Kisum: I wish this situation would just end quickly Jessi: And, you, Tymee unni… I’m getting *beep heated right now. Tymee unni, you said that you were annoyed of me. Tymee (when showing the card to the camera): I think that she brought the atmosphere down. Jessi: You wrote that I brought the atmosphere “down” but think about it, everyone kept getting NGs (during the filming of 100 seconds video) so I kept waiting downstairs. So, just mind your own business. Don’t worry about me. The things I said or did was because I was tired (??) Did I not do it (the filming?) to the end? -Then they started yelling over each other.- Jessi: Yo, you’re not my unni. Tymee: Yeah I’m not your unni. I’ve never seen you as a dongsaeng. Jessi: Ok, and Jolly V, you two diss? Tymee: *beep Jessi: What!? Listen. Now in this game I’m the mother*beep top dog. I’m the CEO. Everyone else is a wallflower. (not sure what nan-jaeng means) Nanjaeng-ah, listen carefully. Let me show you what a queen do. I keep it classy but I slap if I *beep have to. Hey ugly! Why are you frowning? You think you bad but you haven’t even seen bad yet. I come and go like a bad storm take a rain check. (Then she says somethinga about her anger burning up the atmosphere???), burning everyone who talks behind my back. Everybody going down, mayday mayday. Getting thirsty when it’s pay day, a day….. and it’s all English after that.
I love her for this. The thing I didn't get about some of the rappers in the first season was that they acted all tough, confident, etc. but they couldn't even say shit to Jessie's face, talking behind her back like a bunch of wimps... Whether they voted her out because they really thought she was the worst or because they felt threatened and wanted to eliminate who they felt was their biggest competition, she put them in their place when she confronted them in this legendary scene. What's the point of rapping like that and acting all high and mighty when you can't even own up to it? At least be real and say shit to someone's face. There's a reason Jessie is the most famous out of all of them now. Her success stems from her honesty. She may be scary but her bluntness is also her charisma. They got owned.