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Today Ars Technica welcomes Tetris creator Alexey Pajitnov and Managing Director of The Tetris Company Henk Rogers to answer some burning questions about the origins of the iconic puzzle game and its deceptive complexity. What programming language was the first-ever version of the game written in? How did they create the iconic Tetris music? What’s the real best strategy? Get answers to these questions and more directly from the minds behind the game.
Tetris is available to stream exclusively on Apple TV+.
Director: Lisandro Perez-Rey
Director of Photography: Brad Wickham
Editor: Shandor Garrison
Talent: Alexy Pajitnov, Henk Rogers
Line Producer: Joe Buscemi
Associate Producer: Paul Gulyas
Associate Producer: Samantha Vélez
Production Manager: Eric Martinez
Production Coordinator: Fernando Davila
Camera Operator: Brittany Berger
Audio:Gabe Quiroga
Production Assistant: Ryan Coppola
Post Production Supervisor: Alexa Deutsch
Post Production Coordinator: Ian Bryant
Supervising Editor: Doug Larsen
Assistant Editor: Andy Morell
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@ceryneianhinds
@ceryneianhinds Год назад
I am so pleased Alexey is getting the recognition he so rightfully deserves
@Fukthm-ir3zs
@Fukthm-ir3zs Год назад
When did he not?!🤣
@Fukthm-ir3zs
@Fukthm-ir3zs Год назад
Dudes been banging around for decades
@somecallmesean_
@somecallmesean_ Год назад
Back in the eighties until Henk Rogers and Nintendo got the rights
@19x51
@19x51 Год назад
This is a Soviet game, more precisely, a Russian game that conquered the world
@redracer2004
@redracer2004 10 месяцев назад
The Russians did conquer the world one way or another@@19x51
@Str0b0
@Str0b0 Год назад
Gotta love Alexey Pajitnov. Such a sympathetic character.
@19x51
@19x51 Год назад
This is a Soviet game, more precisely, a Russian game that conquered the world
@leociresi4292
@leociresi4292 Год назад
The most Russian thing in the world is Tetris Effect
@Exigentable
@Exigentable 9 месяцев назад
​@19x51 relax there, Kafka. It's just a hunk of code.
@nnaheim.
@nnaheim. 11 дней назад
He is KGB, he is spy
@diasporadica
@diasporadica Год назад
I am happy to see their real-life friendship depicted so well in the recent movie.
@MrYogurcik77
@MrYogurcik77 Год назад
Yes, very nice movie 💪
@19x51
@19x51 Год назад
This is a Soviet game, more precisely, a Russian game that conquered the world
@ahuachapan2
@ahuachapan2 Год назад
Yes. They are married and expecting their second child: Tatiana Russova.
@WhatAboutZoidberg
@WhatAboutZoidberg Год назад
So happy Alexy is finally getting the recognition he deserves. He made one of, if not the greatest game of all time. He basically made chess in the modern era.
@19x51
@19x51 Год назад
This is a Soviet game, more precisely, a Russian game that conquered the world
@urielperez4101
@urielperez4101 Год назад
@@19x51 ok buddy we get it🤣no need to repeat yourself under every comment you see
@19x51
@19x51 Год назад
@@urielperez4101 Est-ce que je répète?
@ryoukaip
@ryoukaip 11 месяцев назад
​@@19x51yes you do, stop spamming
@EvidentlyFire
@EvidentlyFire 3 месяца назад
​@@19x51are Russia paying you? lol. btw soccer is an english game, its a little more popular
@fistsop
@fistsop Год назад
That man right there made the greatest video game of all time.
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM Год назад
Wait he's not Sid Meier...
@Larryboy2701
@Larryboy2701 Год назад
One of the greatest for sure. It may not be the greatest for me, but Tetris is one of the few video games I would label as “perfect”
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator Год назад
It's so perfect Nintendo bundled it with Gameboy instead of Super Mario.
@yekker2245
@yekker2245 Год назад
I play it everyday ✌️
@deadfr0g
@deadfr0g Год назад
There’s an important idea in game design that complexity is like a resource or currency (debt the player is asked to take on) that the designer uses to generate or “buy” depth: in general, you need to add complexity to a game to create more depth in it. Within this framework, the elegance of a game’s design is often thought of as the abstract ratio of how much depth you’ve been able to squeeze out of how little complexity. It is by this measure that Tetris is frequently cited as being perhaps the most elegant video game ever made.
@justcuz8202
@justcuz8202 11 месяцев назад
If I may, what are some examples of both "depth" and "complexity" in the concept you've described, here? It was a lot of language, but not a lot of description, haha.
@chupasaurus
@chupasaurus 9 месяцев назад
​@@justcuz8202 I'll to rephrase the OP and add examples (using board games). Complexity is basically amount of rules, while depth is how much knowledge, specific techniques and so on those generate. Clear example is chess vs checkers: same board, the former has 6 distinct pieces and a dozen of rules, the latter has 2 pieces and like 3 rules; if compare them, chess has more depth because it has complexity which enables it. The whole another story is go/baduk/weiqi: a different board, one piece, 6 rules of what to do with them, and a depth that doesn't end in this galaxy because it's so abstract.
@Projectz1122
@Projectz1122 Год назад
The movie on Apple+ was really good. Very cool to see the creators in the flesh and their thoughts about the game, thanks.
@MuscarV2
@MuscarV2 Год назад
The creator* They say right in the video who they are, yet you somehow failed to understand any of that... how?
@Projectz1122
@Projectz1122 Год назад
@@MuscarV2 Creators as in one who invented the game, one who brought it to mainstream audiences and who both founded the Tetris Company. Why I specifically said creators and not inventors. I see what you're meaning, possible poor word usage on my part.
@HandleToBeDetermined
@HandleToBeDetermined Год назад
Tetris is a timeless masterpiece not only in gaming, but for humanity as a whole. Long live the Tetrimino!
@leociresi4292
@leociresi4292 Год назад
I remember learning how to play Tetris on the Game Boy, gosh the memories
@canofnothing
@canofnothing Год назад
It's great to hear these two talk about things like the rotation system, randomization and a bit of the programming involved. Usually in interviews we just hear them talk about the history and legacy of the game. There's a different kind of enthusiasm that seems to come out when they discuss the smaller details.
@Tackleqb
@Tackleqb Год назад
I love how Alexey calls the game his baby. It sure is and he should be proud. The game is addicting as addicting as f!
@charlottearanea7507
@charlottearanea7507 Год назад
0:20 What at the first version of Tetris like? 1:20 What is the origin of the name "Tetris"? 1:50 What programming language was Tetris originally made in? 3:09 How did Tetris make the best song in gaming ever? 4:23 What do the dancer and space shuttle endings mean? 5:17 How does the game decide which piece to give you? 7:37 How many lines of code is used to make Tetris? 8:55 Do the pieces have official names? 9:57 Do the creators of Tetris get the Tetris Effect? 10:18 Is tucking a bug or a feature? 11:14 What is Pajitnov and Rogers' biggest disagreement? 12:48 What is the definitive version of Tetris? 13:59 What is your preferred strategy, cascade, Tetris, or T-spin? 15:18 Do you use the Hold piece? 15:48 What is the story of the creators of Tetris? 16:50 What role did Tetris have in ending the Cold War?
@TonyTheTGR
@TonyTheTGR Год назад
BUMP
@maxheedrum100
@maxheedrum100 Год назад
This is the best example of synchronicity; the look of the blocks they chose for the second version of Tetris fit in with the 'Memphis aesthetic' of the 1980s perfectly. The game could not have come into being at any other time.
@lonewolf36s
@lonewolf36s Год назад
"People attribute intelligence to randomness" - @7:30 That was profound. Such an awesome self coop interview here. As a programmer I very much enjoyed this in all regards.
@themilkmaiden
@themilkmaiden Год назад
This is one of the best game dev Q&As I have ever seen, informative, likeable relatable devs, no bs
@pomettini
@pomettini Год назад
Never thought that Henk Rogers was such a programming language nerd
@RyanVentura604
@RyanVentura604 Год назад
All respect to both men! Love to see they still love this game so much.
@ADreamingTraveler
@ADreamingTraveler Год назад
The ending is really great. At the end of the day we're all humans that love playing and experiencing the same things in life and shouldn't let things like politics dehumanize others.
@The_Cadaver
@The_Cadaver Год назад
Legends. Hexic HD is one of my favorite puzzle games of all time too.
@losalfajoresok
@losalfajoresok Год назад
This was so wholesome!
@mickeymaus1
@mickeymaus1 Год назад
Very nice and likeable interview - thank you both for that. 😊 I personally never really liked Tetris very much but I absolutely see the impact and importance of Tetris had to the gaming industry at all. And it’s very nice to see that the creator itself now become the credits.
@C.I...
@C.I... Год назад
He designed Hexic too? I love playing Hexic on my Zune with my own music as the soundtrack! I suppose it is a bit like Tetris with a more strategic flavour - so strategic that I am yet to win lol.
@MarinM87
@MarinM87 Год назад
Hexic is a prime example of how someone who did something so beautiful as is Tetris can still bring more to videogames. Truly another masterpiece but not as known.
@PedroSilvahf
@PedroSilvahf Год назад
If Hexic is still the same game i played a lot of years ago then it is kinda hard to beat it. You have to make 3 black pieces and put them together to eliminate the set and its done. It took me way too much time to make it happen but when i saw some guy playing on youtube and filling the screen with black pieces. That was the moment i stopped, it just doesn't get inside my head how this is possible.
@tamertamertamer4874
@tamertamertamer4874 Год назад
It’s really nice to see how far programming has come. Now a lot of programmers can easily code a basic version of Tetris really fast with all the tools we have today
@LeesReviews69
@LeesReviews69 Год назад
I didn’t know the history of Tetris was so extravagant until this movie, and I was one of the Gameboy/Tetris buyers. You guys rock!
@shanedavison6371
@shanedavison6371 Год назад
I get the vibe these guys really are best friends. Awesome interview.
@SavvySavant
@SavvySavant Год назад
The first time I played tetris on gameboy, it was like a sneak peak into another world... An utterly unique puzzler with Russian culture sprinkled throughout.. I knew nothing of Russia as a kid (it was an enigma).. Finding out about it in the music and iconography was a really memorable experience as child.. Brilliant game.. 👍
@leociresi4292
@leociresi4292 Год назад
In the Nintendo version of Tetris, when you beat the hardest level, a cartoon plays with fiddlers, dancers, and the tops of the Kremlin take off like rockets
@ryanhoulihan
@ryanhoulihan Год назад
Okay now I need to go suit shopping
@potterinhe11
@potterinhe11 Год назад
For me, the 'Tetris Effect' transpires as a complete version of the game that I can play in my mind, where I remember where every piece is and they are even randomized properly.
@leociresi4292
@leociresi4292 Год назад
IKR. I can look at a tiled wall or floor and instantly know hoe to set up a C-Spin
@ICONmachines
@ICONmachines Год назад
Absolutely LEGENDS! ❤
@FlameMage2
@FlameMage2 Год назад
Henk seems like a really swell dude! Great at explanations and these were some pretty well picked out questions.
@hemmojito
@hemmojito Год назад
You just feel that he looks over the rim of his teacup. Love people like that
@shepherdsgamingrun
@shepherdsgamingrun Год назад
4:40 The version of Tetris shown is not the one Henk Rogers worked on. That one was programmed by rival Tengen, who thought they had the rights for Tetris at the time.
@medicalwei
@medicalwei Год назад
And tetrio screenshot around 9:48 I hope they don't take down this video though
@fixedfunshow
@fixedfunshow Год назад
@@medicalwei yep triggered me lol
@iamnotmcm
@iamnotmcm Год назад
@@fixedfunshowtetrio is so fun though play it i promise it wont ruin your life
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid Год назад
I will never give up my game boy color specifically because of Tetris! Thank you Alexey and Henk!
@dosnostalgic
@dosnostalgic Год назад
13:18 When Alexey mentions the version "ported to PC", I have a feeling that he didn't mean the Spectrum Holobyte 1988 PC version, which is the one shown, but probably the 1986 Academysoft version he himself co-created with Vadim Gerasimov.
@martin0499
@martin0499 Год назад
I'd like to hear if Alexey seen the video "Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris", it's an incredible piece of internet and video game history.
@BdR76
@BdR76 Год назад
Tetris is such classic game, the story about how it was first programmed to where Nintendo first published their version is just fascinating, and it's great to see Alexey Pajitnov and Henk Rogers are still friends after all these years. 😃 I wonder though, if they ever heard of the msdos game *Shariki* ? That game has a similar story, it's an endless puzzle action game created by a Russian student (Yevgeny Alemzhin) but that game was later just copied as *Bejeweled* and ultimately he never became as rich and famous, even though match3 games are also played everywhere today.
@UmbrellaSound
@UmbrellaSound Год назад
I'd say he didn't become famous or influential as Alexey because similar games were made since 1985. SameGame was first of the bunch. Shariki was too late to the party to claim proper originality. Although I agree that Bejeweled just straight up copy pasted Shariki. :(
@TheVeryGenericUsername
@TheVeryGenericUsername Год назад
Oh look, Tetrio!
@boxboy7999
@boxboy7999 Год назад
Yeah someone at ars technica is getting in trouble
@Protofall
@Protofall Год назад
Alexy was the first world champ. I love you, you comedian! Really enjoyed the movie too!
@dontomaso11
@dontomaso11 Год назад
Love the look of these two dudes :)
@brianbjur4796
@brianbjur4796 Год назад
It’s like if George Carlin was two people
@Mackaber
@Mackaber Год назад
Thank you Ars for this. This was really heartwarming. I was smiling the whole way
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk Год назад
That was a really fun Q&A session. Thanks, Ars!
@waynekeenansvideos
@waynekeenansvideos Год назад
That was really awesome, thanks. I really enjoyed the movie too.
@rutabaga9863
@rutabaga9863 Год назад
tetrio jumpscare
@macidraws1705
@macidraws1705 Год назад
The fact that Alexy calls Tetris his baby❤❤ 17:28
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 Год назад
Alexei Pajitnov definitely earned his money. It woukd still be awesome to see how well can he play Tetris on NES. World's best players go to about two million points. World Champion got nicely gold-colored T-piece until death of heptuple-champion Jonas Neubauer and after that it's been J-piece.
@iamnotmcm
@iamnotmcm Год назад
WR is well over 6 million depending on whether or not you’re talking about NTSC or PAL versions
@Sctn187
@Sctn187 8 месяцев назад
They both seem so cool glad I got to see this.
@swanseawales1979
@swanseawales1979 Год назад
Brilliant interview, thanks for posting
@UXXV
@UXXV Год назад
Well does Ars! This was gold!
@GoGoGadgetAsh
@GoGoGadgetAsh Месяц назад
I have loved Tetris since I first time I played it on a demo Nintendo Game Boy in a Target store back in 1989! Now, I play as many versions of Tetris as I can get my hands on. It is my favorite game of all time. Thank you so much for Tetris! I wish I could give this video more than one thumbs up! I will do it here in the comments. 👍👍👍👍
@eurapeon
@eurapeon Год назад
That was wonderful. Thank you
@DavinciWhite
@DavinciWhite Год назад
I think the best part of the movie is all these videos we are getting to know better the "behind the iron curtain" / making of the game
@leociresi4292
@leociresi4292 Год назад
Original Tetris 4 lines was a big deal Tetris Effect, Octoris, Dodecatris, Decahextris, Perfectris, Ultimatris, Kirbtris, Impossibilitris, Possibly Infinitris
@DeborahAbelha
@DeborahAbelha Год назад
Lovely seeing both ❤just watched the movie thrilling
@Guest_0011
@Guest_0011 Год назад
Alexy is rocking that tetris shirt for sure
@rizalukman7982
@rizalukman7982 Год назад
Thank you Alexei Pajitnov for creating tetris
@jesmarlesmar
@jesmarlesmar Год назад
I LOVE THIS! thanx for this!
@estusflask982
@estusflask982 Год назад
2 legends. Great game. Great movie too.
@CoachCraigKenneth
@CoachCraigKenneth Год назад
I would love to see their reaction to playing Tetris Effect in VR
@AbstraktNG
@AbstraktNG Год назад
The 2 greatest minds who made the most popular and addictive game in history
@lefthookouchmcarm4520
@lefthookouchmcarm4520 5 месяцев назад
Its amazing. Without both of these guys, the world wouldnt know tetris 😮
@Err_InvalidName
@Err_InvalidName 4 месяца назад
When a movie about your game also serves as a bio pic. Now that’s a T spin … or Tetris
@bar10dr
@bar10dr Год назад
I just watched the Tetris movie, you guys are awesome
@mudden
@mudden Год назад
Since I got the Nintendo Switch I've been playing more Tetris than ever due to the Tetris 99 included in the console! What a great game it is!
@BangkokZed
@BangkokZed 2 месяца назад
I first saw programmers at the Minsk University playing a Tetris-like game in 1983. The game was played on a green screen, with shapes denoted by 'X' symbols. According to Wikipedia, AP released the game in 1985. This story is similar to the lightbulb, prior to Edison, numerous other innovators had similar ideas, which he perfected and commercialized.
@bentationfunkiloglio
@bentationfunkiloglio Год назад
Alexy is cool. Such an inspiration.
@perjalananwaktu7181
@perjalananwaktu7181 Год назад
bruh these those tetris game is legendary
@charlibiris
@charlibiris Год назад
Guys lets not forget that this guy invented one of the best ganes ever. Like chess, crosswords etc… hes a leyend
@diskoBonez
@diskoBonez Год назад
Really insightful interview!
@IceKoldKilla
@IceKoldKilla Год назад
I've been obsessed lately. Playing the Game Boy version on Switch, Tetris 99 and on my PS5 been playing Tetris Effect: Connected.
@danmozartino2864
@danmozartino2864 Год назад
wooooo thank you guys !!!
@saicoromero1180
@saicoromero1180 Год назад
My favorite game forever ! thanks kings of tetris
@lizzyboo121
@lizzyboo121 Год назад
so good!!! 🩵💙❤️💜🧡💛💚
@joshuabergin3087
@joshuabergin3087 9 дней назад
A game that has stood the test of time and will continue to
@trwijbenga
@trwijbenga Год назад
Some great guys!
@elrincondedynemarkis8214
@elrincondedynemarkis8214 Год назад
Alexy smile is one of the best things in all universe... thanks
@slowestjabroni
@slowestjabroni Год назад
SO GOOD
@LalitoTV
@LalitoTV Год назад
Surprised the subtitles messed up, it's katyusha at 3:53 if anyone was wondering
@danielkeo7928
@danielkeo7928 Год назад
I absolutely love your game and your story is even more inspiring. I am very glad your both getting the recognition you deserve.
@RifetOkic
@RifetOkic 11 месяцев назад
THIS is the kind of stuff i Love
@ilnasyah
@ilnasyah Год назад
lol surprised that henk rogers actually know how to play tetris. also, i love how this video is about Tetris yet they showed this particular non tetris game couple of times
@CoolBeat
@CoolBeat 5 месяцев назад
incredible story ! :D love the movie
@BambooShadow
@BambooShadow Год назад
Nicest guys in the video game biz since the 80s!
@castries
@castries Год назад
Tetris Battle was fire!!!!!
@JoffreM
@JoffreM Год назад
how wonderful
@deviandrianto
@deviandrianto Год назад
I think _Tetris_ in _GameBoy_ still the best version, I like it
@tec5x5
@tec5x5 Год назад
I adore Tetris on the NES with "C" music its such a vibe
@grimTales1
@grimTales1 Год назад
This is the first time I've seen the real Pajitnov and Rogers! I'd often assumed the video game Tetris was him trying to make a video game version of the board game - in the movie (and as he also says here), it's said to be a portmanteau of Tetra and Tennis - I didn't know that was the reason it was called that, the game isn't really like Tennis, Pong is more like Tennis?
@LaepsynPaepsyn
@LaepsynPaepsyn Год назад
He says he just likes the game of tennis a lot, and wanted to put the "-is" in the name because of that. It was simply a question of coming up with a cool name for the game.
@dylan.t180
@dylan.t180 Год назад
Great video
@PointEndClick
@PointEndClick Год назад
This video is awesome.
@Scarflix
@Scarflix Год назад
So good
@dcstanda
@dcstanda 7 месяцев назад
I love Tetris and I remember playing it on Game Boy first (even though I never owned one) and still to this day despite other games I love Tetris will always be my number one. Also I remember an online website called Tetris friends and you could play different games and against other players which I loved then a few years ago it was gone, love now you can play again online whenever and wherever. Finally Tetris Blitz on mobile (iOS and Android) I loved as it was a race against time in 2 minutes to get the best score you could get.
@naheemquattlebaum2267
@naheemquattlebaum2267 Год назад
This is so cool.
@MatMadikPCA
@MatMadikPCA Год назад
Legends!!!
@SlyHikari03
@SlyHikari03 11 месяцев назад
Alexey! What a legend.
@spikerthedragonbear
@spikerthedragonbear 26 дней назад
Seems like the Rotation debate was even spicy in development. (I'm personally a fan of SRS-X with the wacky 180 rotations)
@michaellacy3699
@michaellacy3699 Год назад
As Sid Meyer once said, 'a game is a series of interesting choices.'
@fotografick
@fotografick Год назад
I wish the talked about Tetris Effect. Not that it's the definitive version, but it is a masterpiece.
@joewatts2940
@joewatts2940 5 месяцев назад
Really cool to see the real guys after the movie
@Blackcatlookingintonothing
@Blackcatlookingintonothing 20 дней назад
Bro Alexey so wholesome with his tetris jackets so fcking cool
@CrazyHomelessWeirdo
@CrazyHomelessWeirdo Год назад
The key to a successful video game is that it is fun and easy for anyone regardless of skill at video games to pick up and play but hard to master. These are the hardest kind of game to make.
@kcsnipes
@kcsnipes Год назад
Looking at a simple game I realize it’s so deep 😮 I never knew
@LeesReviews69
@LeesReviews69 Год назад
I can’t believe this only have 50k views
@MommysGoodPuppy
@MommysGoodPuppy Год назад
this is so cool
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