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@NillusWrekar
@NillusWrekar Месяц назад
Thanks for reading the Lodestone for me as always.
@damnsahn
@damnsahn Месяц назад
Character Creation has always been an eye-sore. I hope the update fixes this issue.
@Dublin.655
@Dublin.655 Месяц назад
Tell me about it...made my current main character about 7 years ago. He looked wonderful in character creator, but looks like a horrible goblin in-game. I haven't Fantasia'ed him because I am worried the creator is just going to lie about whatever updates I make next.
@Nimoot
@Nimoot Месяц назад
Dunno what you're talkin' about ... I love the way my character looks.
@taichou9475
@taichou9475 Месяц назад
@@Nimoot its just some people char got changed by a small pixel so they are just crying alot even thou every char looks better lol.
@bioticgod4940
@bioticgod4940 Месяц назад
justice for fangs
@raviolialamode
@raviolialamode Месяц назад
The benchmark drastically improved my elezen in literally every way, but boy did it massacre my mooncat and highlander retainers.
@jackjohnson8305
@jackjohnson8305 Месяц назад
"Massacre" is a bit much, yall are really overreacting with these changes they're so subtle that they almost don't matter.
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical Месяц назад
@@jackjohnson8305 I DO agree with you - people are 1,000,000% being hyperbolic - but small changes CAN be relevant to people with something like characters they've become attached to. Some players have had their characters for 9-11 years (and some remade their 1.0 character, so up to 13 years). Small changes can be relevant to people, important. ...though I absolutely agree terms like "massacre" and the like are hyperbolic and make it easy to ridicule or ignore those people. It's a case of people overstating their case and being "too clever by half" to the point that they get ignored as hyperbolic, whereas if they used more measured terms, where it didn't sound like they were being hysterical, they'd actually be listened to more.
@raviolialamode
@raviolialamode Месяц назад
@@jackjohnson8305 do you get like this whenever someone uses the "Look how they massacred my boy" meme too? here i'll write it differently just for you: "boy did it cause my highlander and mooncat to look differently than what i am accustomed to and i am personally not fond of these changes i am observing."
@DarthSanguine
@DarthSanguine Месяц назад
@@jackjohnson8305 You need to get your eyes checked. My characters look nothing like they do in the current graphics, and I hate it. It's like Mass Effect 3 all over again.
@TheWitchWillow
@TheWitchWillow Месяц назад
I would agree but they defanged my mooncat ;_;
@nestrior7733
@nestrior7733 Месяц назад
The thing I value about these updates over reading the Loadstone myself is the added context. You see a whole lot more of the community than I do and know more about the circumstances. In part because you have covered this game for so long. It makes all the logical sense for the Benchmark to be an old build, but that some builds you've played in the past were three months behind gives it all a very different context. And I'm not faulting Yoshi-P and the team here. I've heard about what kind of effort goes into a Games Con demo, for example. That we even are getting a Benchmark for *_every_* expansion since Idk when is far and wide the exception. Though some of the complaints are really ironic, given that (part of) this was to showcase the graphics update. In any case. The team keeps on communicating and explaining things well. And that is something I will never complain about.
@DefinitelyNotRin
@DefinitelyNotRin Месяц назад
take-
@Kazeryuun
@Kazeryuun Месяц назад
Finally, my days of testing a whole alt in game just to see if they even look accurate to what I made in the creator is over I was content with the battle voices added in the benchmark, but this is a welcome adjustment
@CorynSilver
@CorynSilver Месяц назад
Actually, more than anything, I felt like my Au Ra’s mouth was very odd and didn’t look quite correct, her bottom lip looked thicker and the corners of her lips ended I’d somewhat deep dimples. Unsure if either of those is related to the issues tho
@deevo2703
@deevo2703 Месяц назад
So until next time, take-
@Sunari
@Sunari Месяц назад
Really hope they can fix some of the lighting as that’s always been such a pain since colors aren’t the same between creator and in game. However pretty happy with some other things as things like lil color better match like I’ve often wanted red shades but currently in game with a darker skin tone they just tend to darken lips, now I can get a more matte red going. Am a little sad as the lumbar rings can stand out a bit more in some ways. Currently I have a blue and green eye, and found a shade that each color could bring out in the glow so they were both glowy eyes. Now though I can see that the glow is a bit more green in the blue eye so either gonna glow up one eye or have to consider one eye color for double glow. However I have time to decide (currently leaning towards letting the green eye pop)
@jorgealfy
@jorgealfy Месяц назад
Got to run the benchmark on Steam Deci after a couple downloads in desktop mode and got surprisingly good results, very excited to play DT on my oled
@Steve-YT383
@Steve-YT383 Месяц назад
Be nice if they released a viable way for console players to see their characters in the new creator and lighting before release.
@ryuichiro.sakuraba
@ryuichiro.sakuraba Месяц назад
FFXIV: A Benchmark Reborn
@ccpljager424
@ccpljager424 Месяц назад
when i tried to run the bench mark it caused by PC to crash and it wasnt very stable
@burtwonk
@burtwonk Месяц назад
I wish I could try it out, but I don’t have a PC. From what I have seen, though, as a sea wolf Femroe main I’ll be quite happy. I hope they fix though Hellsguard puppy nose, tho!
@soulechelon2643
@soulechelon2643 Месяц назад
My current Viera WoL looked fine in the benchmark, however I did notice how flat the lighting made her look. Had to mess with it a bit and change scenes a bunch. I actually didn't realize how widespread the criticism was up until recently and it's sounding like it was pretty valid. No real skin off my back personally - I was happy to check out the benchmark and Hrothgals (who I'm definitely fantasia'ing into. Love my Viera WoL but her name literally means "Earth Tiger" so there ya go). If they're gonna update it fully to Dawntrail standards then I'll happily dive right back in. I agree it was a smart move to release it early and get feedback. Though did they state that was their goal? I don't remember if they did or not. That said it probably would've been wise to also state the character creator wasn't fully updated yet and that another version would be released later. Personally not a big deal to me, but it seems to have riled up some folks.
@Frostbyte115
@Frostbyte115 Месяц назад
See the funny thing is I noticed it wasn't updated because of Au'Ra Limbals. In CC they were still EW Limbals but in the benchmark itself I was seeing them in that.. beautiful... Mystical limbal.. however I could see how anyone would not notice but also.. it's a benchmark.. it's not fully up to date
@BlueJeiVA
@BlueJeiVA Месяц назад
Glad to see that the character creation is being address, as that's where I saw most people making their complaints. However, I feel like a lot of people just "imported", and I do want to remind everyone that they said some of the features have been modified and they are giving us all a free fantasia to select the new detail that most closely resembles what they wanted.
@veliance8592
@veliance8592 Месяц назад
A lot of the complaints I've seen (and also had myself) were not just that a lot of races ended up looking flat, but also that some quirks were flattened out! e.g. the lips shape were all rounded out and looked like matte lipstick, nose kinks or shadings were removed and all of that stuff - there's nothing you can do in the character creator to "adjust" since these facial features themselves were flattened n rounded out like bubbles and straight lines. (also a lot of other minor stuff but you get the gist - it's not just the colors but also unique shapes etc)
@Poldovico
@Poldovico Месяц назад
@@veliance8592 though lighting plays a big role in showing or hiding those sorts of features, so it could still be on the model and just not show,
@veliance8592
@veliance8592 Месяц назад
@@Poldovico oh, i also mean like actual shapes - even without the lighting issue. I can very well differentiate those, but i know you have a point when it comes to other cc features! 👏
@Ti7Vk3y
@Ti7Vk3y Месяц назад
​@Poldovico They made everyone's pupils bigger across the board and some races thinner lips (that they chose on purpose) have been made thicker without any choice for a thin set.
@CMReina
@CMReina Месяц назад
Feeling isn't really a real metric to gauge how legit feedback is or not, you don't know if people tried to fix their characters or not and in some cases they just didn't end up the same.
@ZodaSoda
@ZodaSoda Месяц назад
Its sad that the character creation was overlooked, I expressly told my friends months ago that it likely would end up overlooked, If they had considered adding 2-3 new faces per race alongside this update, i dont think it would have been overlooked, but i guess they feel like they didnt have time for new faces. That being said, Weapon attack and damage taken animations being added to the character creation makes me wonder what went on internally. Character Creation overhaul should have been a consideration alongside the graphics update, especially considering certain things in it are currently dated af.
@theoperator3712
@theoperator3712 Месяц назад
There's some weird technical hurdle that makes adding new stuff to the character creator really hard; based on what they've said in the past. It's why they basically have only ever added hair styles and the new derplander face.
@ZodaSoda
@ZodaSoda Месяц назад
@@theoperator3712 You can only hide behind that excuse for so long, its been 10 years, assign a few programmers to make a new character creator.
@theoperator3712
@theoperator3712 Месяц назад
@@ZodaSoda I'm not the one hiding behind it.
@ZodaSoda
@ZodaSoda Месяц назад
@@theoperator3712 i meant that rhetorically
@seanh1159
@seanh1159 Месяц назад
@@ZodaSoda You have a solid point. Even the FF14 defense coalition are having trouble refuting it.
@LieutenantMerks
@LieutenantMerks Месяц назад
My only real problem I had with the benchmark was my chars always looked too glossy and the hair looked oily even if it wasn't raining.
@johnenoch6877
@johnenoch6877 Месяц назад
Never knew that there was a problem.
@Paraguai123
@Paraguai123 Месяц назад
I called this. Back when people were saying "It doesnt make sense for them to put benchmark now" before the liveletter, I said how dumb it was to not release the benchmark when a huge graphics update is imminent and they need all the time in the world to fix it. It was pretty obvious in hindsight.
@vbun4662
@vbun4662 Месяц назад
I think my Viera looks a heck of a lot better but it was definitely hard to see that if you didnt know the lighting in the creator is weird. I'm used to janky lighting in character creators and knew the tricks but the devs realized that you shouldn't need to know any tricks to see your character at their best. A big enough percentage of players had a bad impression and they cared which is why this team is so great.
@EclipseHighroller
@EclipseHighroller Месяц назад
Need to add an option to get rid of the male hrothgar slouch. Literally the only reason I don’t play a hrothgar.
@Keira_Blackstone
@Keira_Blackstone Месяц назад
I feel you. I was hoping that the graphical update would include the option to have eyebrows on male highlanders so I could actually play one without being creeped out, but no such luck.
@TheSynysterGamer
@TheSynysterGamer Месяц назад
maybe i wont have to make alts to make sure i have my skin tone correct anymore lol
@CMReina
@CMReina Месяц назад
Yeah this is why people use Anamnesis or Glamourer to test changes out in game seamlessly and with their glams, the creator is just bad lol.
@DeathsAvarice
@DeathsAvarice Месяц назад
The benchmark is what is making me change races lol. Just cause I can't do what I have atm on Au Ra
@LysLilyRose
@LysLilyRose Месяц назад
They massacred Raens so bad I too am thinking of changing character to not ruin my love for my current char
@DeathsAvarice
@DeathsAvarice Месяц назад
@@LysLilyRose I'm considering Viera or Midlander at this point.
@gregsmith9870
@gregsmith9870 Месяц назад
anyone who's a fantasia addict, (like me) learned a long time ago that the creator sucked and never did the characters justice, instead you'd be smart and just make a throwaway new character to try out your changed looks in game before you lock it in on your actual character. hopefully now the character creation will be representative of your looks in the game game.
@KrazyBean14
@KrazyBean14 Месяц назад
I was very happy with my midlander post update, so I'll be eating very good soon then 😊
@TheLi0nc0urt
@TheLi0nc0urt Месяц назад
As a m-viera my character was great in the benchmark.
@TheFirstWarden777
@TheFirstWarden777 Месяц назад
You're lucky mine is a lost cause atm. It looks nothing like him more like a washed out drug addict. The darkest shade of black hair looks more greyed out now and it looks horrible and in certain CS in the benchmark it made him look like Michael Jackson because of the werid facial animations.
@Xorua
@Xorua Месяц назад
Sad that we're not hearing anything about mooncat teeth yet
@TheJoukai
@TheJoukai Месяц назад
They didn't really call out any specific graphical issues by name aside from lighting. The teeth are probably part of the data issues described in point 2.
@Xorua
@Xorua Месяц назад
@@TheJoukai I have to assume so but it’s hard to parse dev language sometimes
@Frostbyte115
@Frostbyte115 Месяц назад
It's not pressing or a big deal.
@Frostbyte115
@Frostbyte115 Месяц назад
​@@TheJoukaiyea that's more than likely the case. It's not such a major thing to list individually
@ZodaSoda
@ZodaSoda Месяц назад
@@Frostbyte115 Generally you dont wanna list things you will fix or have issue wiith to the public incase you dont have enough time to address the issue, internally they would have a list and will want to finish it by release, but will do everything 1 by 1 and not tell the public so they dont complain that "hey you said youd fix this"
@jameysotelo540
@jameysotelo540 Месяц назад
Honestly i never took this benchmark seriously or really any benchmark because its obvious and i mean very obvious that these are not the same benchmarks the devs are showing right before they give it to us it might be in some cases but i dont think they want to send a benchmark out to us that even they have problems with on live streams so thats why i only took this is a baseline of hey my character is fine and more importantly with this one hey i can actually play the game going into dawntrail over whatever my character looks like here when she will change again going into dawntrail. nonetheless i am glad they are doing fixes for the things that matter just hope this doesn't affect dawntrails release because of this as well though
@DragonKnightFire
@DragonKnightFire Месяц назад
It's very bold of you to assume improvement constructive feedback skills from the NA side of things. Lol
@rikkupendragon8372
@rikkupendragon8372 Месяц назад
I hope they change how lip colours look. The black lip colour right now is disappointing. It looks very filtered or thinned out so it's not as dark as it should be. Dark purple looks exactly the same as black lip colour. Most of the lip colours just don't appear as they should in the current character creation system.
@MrDfrose
@MrDfrose Месяц назад
Uncorrected mouth scaling probably has to do with female Elezen, I saw a couple of pictures on the forums of how their moutths just seemed weird.
@Verd254
@Verd254 Месяц назад
Hopefully this is step 1 of people complaining about a true character creation overhaul. There really should be more options and sliders.
@RikuDarkMarks
@RikuDarkMarks Месяц назад
Honestly I had no issues with the changes.
@wildheaven1827
@wildheaven1827 Месяц назад
You cant compare the blank white bars that are teeth and tell me it's an upgrade. Environments look great but it doesnt look good on characters imo. They saw this and tried upping the polys the help hence the new clipping bugs.
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity Месяц назад
Cool. These fixes are for those who did, and you will surely continue to not notice anything
@Kango234
@Kango234 Месяц назад
Glad I never got around to downloading it.
@miatomi
@miatomi Месяц назад
system requirements increased quite a bit, so I'd still download it
@KnightRaymund
@KnightRaymund Месяц назад
I've always hated the lighting in the character creator.
@CleopatraKing
@CleopatraKing Месяц назад
My fear is how difficult making a unique hrothgal will be. I really hope they add highlights to the hair bc i hate seeing a slightly darker version of the hrothgal i made in mr happys thumbnail
@RaddyC
@RaddyC Месяц назад
Though I’m happy with how my character looks in the benchmark, derplander (and a lot of other people’s characters) looks downright uncanny.
@CMReina
@CMReina Месяц назад
Yeah same, thankfully mine ended up very faithful (I play Hrothgar and almost nothing changed)
@khorne133
@khorne133 Месяц назад
All I wanted, was being able to choose different horns and faces for au ra. But nope. Faces are still tied to horns.
@AnnaBananya
@AnnaBananya Месяц назад
The Playstation 3 and its consequences have been a disaster for the Final Fantasy XIV community.
@krekkaking
@krekkaking Месяц назад
Unironically it's been one of the best decisions for 14 as a whole, without the PS3, we wouldn't have the amount of bodies
@HiroesX81
@HiroesX81 Месяц назад
I started on ps3 10 years ago. Problem?
@Kango234
@Kango234 Месяц назад
Honestly you can say that about Square Enix as a whole.
@ateezinx6448
@ateezinx6448 Месяц назад
​@TheArrowdude117 Lmao they've dropped support for PS3 years ago already.
@kevinsano
@kevinsano Месяц назад
@@TheArrowdude117 This game hasn't had PS3 support for years now
@f_m_fferrera5483
@f_m_fferrera5483 Месяц назад
We can all complain to yoshi p so that he can give us the option of increasing the buttocks of the characters in general M/F.
@Dotoku44
@Dotoku44 Месяц назад
2:40 What a Karen thing to say... You JUST said that you thought they'd release it now and update later, then you give a rude remark when they do just that.
@TheMax1087
@TheMax1087 Месяц назад
He was referring to the graphics update itself when he said he thought they’d release it now, and the character creator in the benchmark when he said the what you are talking about.
@dreadqueenquinn
@dreadqueenquinn Месяц назад
Except they didn’t listen to our feedback and this post comes off dismissive and tone deaf. There are fundamental differences in my character that I’m unsatisfied with and they aren’t caused by the environment of the character creator, as they persisted into the benchmark cut scene and screen shots. I don’t want my characters face to look rounded and glossy I want it to look sharp and flat like it does in the live client. Other people want their fangs, or noses back. This reeks of a development team that would rather tell us what’s best for us than actually listen. I have not seen a single side by side comparison that looked like an improvement including back from fan fest images. They need to include an option to turn off the update on at least your own character.
@wildheaven1827
@wildheaven1827 Месяц назад
This isnt a graphics upgrade, it's a graphics compatibility update for xbox. Thats why your character looks like a plastic toy.
@Onhyx27
@Onhyx27 Месяц назад
Not sure why you give us back hand comments of not checking the lodestone. Isn’t this easy content for you? Some people prefer to hear your voice rather.
@RixsEmporium
@RixsEmporium Месяц назад
Why did they even release this version of the benchmark if they are "currently expediting a rework of the environments and light sources of character creation"? This is the type of bad management and stupidity that leads to the bigger picture being rushed. This type of thinking and development leaves me thinking once again that they are trying to do too much, a quantity over quality frame of mind they've had since 6.1 from what I can tell. I hope I'm wrong.
@dRay2TH3M4XIII
@dRay2TH3M4XIII Месяц назад
How wasn't your first idea that they wanted people to test their hardware asap?
@Null_Experis
@Null_Experis Месяц назад
Because the purpose of the benchmark is to primarily test your hardware and rate it for gameplay conditions with the upgraded graphics, not be a character creation showcase.
@Andarion00
@Andarion00 Месяц назад
Watch out, we got an arm chair large scale project manager here
@Drakesilon
@Drakesilon Месяц назад
The expedited rework is based on the feedback from the current benchmark. Not a “its not finished send it out and put the ‘actual’ version out later”
@Frostbyte115
@Frostbyte115 Месяц назад
Because character creator lighting is some of the last things to work on vs the entire rest of the game. You don't do it first. The mess ups with the textures on the other hand? Likely an oversight. DT is going to be the biggest thing we've had done so yea I get it. I'm glad people did the right thing and let them know the benchmark was missing stuff because that is important however it's a bit of a leap to claim a build that is not representing 100% of the final build not is up to date is rushing things. It was one thing for Endwalkers post release... It's another for a benchmark meant to push your PC to see if you're good to go
@Kaktusalax
@Kaktusalax Месяц назад
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