Update on Koko and her Kittens (2018) 

I agree

What!?!? I never knew she died 😭

I thought so too. She really was a thing of wonder who is greatly missed.

A lot of Our Losses were Not Covered as they should have been! :(

May she rest in peace! She had a soul too, even if the church says animals do not have a soul and animals have a heart and feelings as well

awww😪

I'm so sorry she died.we need you koko

😢

So this video was uploaded exactly two months before her death

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Sharon Wilson I agree

Wana know something cool.....even tho she is gone, the things that we learned from her will live on. This is the first record of actual evolution at work, I just hope we can see the value in preserving the data that was gathered

@its yeshua not jesus so get over it yeah if we lost you it wouldn't bother literally anyone and would definitely make the world a better place even if it's just a tiny bit considering you're a nothing.

Sharon Wilson not all

Someone. Not something.

Except that by definition she wasn't a person.

@@st_orlie Entirely inaccurate actually.

@@The-Dom a person is a human, a gorilla is not a human. It's a gorilla.

@@st_orlie Several countries have granted "personhood" to Dolphins and the great apes. Your mind is small.

@@The-Dom I disagree with the premise that an animal can be granted with personhood. Just like no person could be granted with cathood or elephanthood.

true but the cats are under duress. Their instincts tell them, it's not safe, their body language is clear. Dog people might miss it but if you have had cats, it's unmistakable.

@@goognamgoognw6637 Nah, they're fine. Why would a gorilla be more scary than a human to a cat?

@@Johnnythefirst I mean for one a Gorilla is considerably stronger than a human on average, much more intimidating than humans (looks wise) and cats have been domesticated by humans so they are far more inclined to trust us over other non-cat animals. Not to mention a Gorilla, regardless of the intelligence level isn't as aware of their own strength and have less regards for personal space than us, they are more invasive, Koko included. Let's be honest she's not very shy. I'm not knocking Koko, in fact I would have loved to have met her. But on the off chance she could take a mood swing, like any of us can, she could do a hell of a lot more damage in a lot less time. There would be very little anyone could do to stop it. Also as goognam pointed out the cats did seem a bit uneasy at times, especially when she was being more forceful.

@@yodawg45 It's all about social conditioning with cats. If cats are familiarized with another animal, be it a human, a dog, or even a gorilla, from a young age, then they'll more or less be fine around that type of animal for the rest of their lives, barring negative reinforcement. Human's aren't a special exception either -- look no further than how feral strays respond to humans. It's simply that, by taking over the parental role for a kitten, we condition cats to see us as providers of food, safety, and positive social interaction. Domestic cats are made, not born; The kittens of a domestic cat will be feral if they lack that social conditioning to humans. The uneasiness you describe is pretty congruent with cats in general; If I were to cradle my cat's head as I move in for a kiss, the way that Koko is seen doing, it would react the same way. Their behavior is an indication of an uncomfortable or otherwise unwanted interaction, but it's not an indicator of fear. That the cats clearly tolerate this interaction despite not necessarily enjoying it is a testament to their social conditioning towards Koko; If they truly felt even somewhat endangered, they wouldn't be seen anywhere close to Koko, much less lounging in close proximity. They certainly wouldn't remain lounging next to her after an unwanted interaction. They would be keeping their distance, and - if at relative ease but still unsure - would be laying belly-flat on all four legs, not lounging curled as we see them. And of course if they were genuinely uncomfortable/fearful then we would be seeing ears-flat, back-raised, hair on-edged, and/or hissing. All in all I'd say it's pretty clear that these cats were well conditioned to Koko - Not to the same degree that we as humans are capable of conditioning cats to ourselves, but certainly well enough to be comfortable around her.

@@yodawg45 a cat has no conditioning to believe a gorilla is intimidating, that is purely YOUR own bias (and a problematic one). The cat does not know the gorilla is stronger, cats do not have the ability to spread the fact that humans domesticated them. Its pretty telling that you're afraid of anything that's different than you. A gorilla has the same capacity to gently nuzzle as humans do. In fact, they are often more gentle to the point of sometimes not actually interacting physically. There are moments in video where Koko would reach towards something but shes so careful she barely brushes it

Karuna Satori ASMR hey there karuna!

Hey girl! Nice to see you on here :)

Hi!!! Its like i see you around more often in these comments lol

except for that kiss! haha

It's you! Cool! My favorite new ASMR artist likes Koko too

And Mr. Rogers.

My thought exactly. RIPKoKo

rockybudgeboa R.I.P

And Harambe

Kawaii Senpai hahahhw

*Mister JD* I know, me too!!

*Mister JD* ever read Of mice and men? Lol might not be a good idea

+Chloe Gallardo Are you sure about that? If Koko was in any way as dangerous as "Lenny", they wouldn't let her keep kittens for pets, would they? After all; in "Of Mice & Men" Lenny killed all the mice (& the puppy) he got, but Koko looks after her kittens very well ... which is a BIG difference. I'd say a hug from Koko isn't any different than being hugged by a larger-sized human (& she would probably be somewhat gentler, too). I'm pretty sure she hugged Robin Williams at one point, anyway... 😅

I wouldn't unless penny was there haha

She's dead guys

Kevin Huynh 😔 he will

The joker, wtf😂? Seems as plausible as regular heaven though....

@@emilyjay6693 The Joker was being...well, the Joker (a facetious little man-bitch). As the Joker, he shouldn't be affronted by that endearment.

@its yeshua not jesus so get over it Lmao you spammed a comment section just because you were triggered by a gorilla. Imagine being that weak.

Bismuth Crystal you're not wrong

Bismuth Crystal I'm a edgy person so I can literally confirm this

And many poachers

Koko at least you are with your cats and friend robin Williams RIP to the both of them you will be missed one smart and intelligent gorilla always learning something new each day from the gorillas appreciate you guys thanks ! Joe

to be fair, that wouldn't be very impressive considering the cesspool that is youtube

Allthingsfluffy yes me too

when did he die

Where is a nanny?

What happened to her ?

@homerussimpson25 you mean "sadly" .

-SKY- of Wonderland kokos becoming a crazy cat lady hehe

I wonder if Koko ever got the baby gorilla she wanted?

Koko is dead :)

Nassim Naimi she is not

Anova yes, koko is dead some years a go

Toni Olson umm gorillas are in the same animal family as humans!!!!

What fetish is that?

Lost Legend one for caring and loving parents. Lol

Yeah! Me too! That would be incredible fun!

My nickname is Koko ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) so..

I will... 😉

lol I thought the same thing 😆

ha ha ha. that is what it looked like. she has such a precious sense of humor.

Lol

RibbitHopX hahaha was what I was thinking and laughing about , Too ! Yes she did 😂

I'd b willing to wager that at some point they read her Cat in the hat

feroui hamza , me too! Cat in the Hat! LOL!

feroui hamza ikr

Sad that CAT heavy equipment is responsible for nearly wiping out this sub-human's existence.

Robert Cornelius wut.

Just wear the dam hat!

Someone who wonders you forgot some dots there...

I wonder if people like Someone who wonders think that because they see an animal that behaves better than how they'd assume most people behave, that makes everyone some sort of evil lesser beings with the themselves being somehow above all over human beings with whoever they believe is nice.

i think i understood what you wrote, hopefully i'm not wrong. i don't believe that all humans are evil or anything of that sort, i was just stating that it's funny "how nice an animal can be" and that a lot of humans don't have the same gentle behaviour as this great ape.

Someone who wonders seriously ...

Derpy as far as I’m concerned , there are so many reports of human evil in this world that I have no problem with the OP statement . And yes, any evil person IS below animals.

IGot LOOΠΔ she died today

He's kidding

Coco died in June, 2018.

They are better than us in many ways. Humans just take others for granted.

Dude, most animals are. Koko is an ape and apes are very intelligent. But I don’t see a squirrel learning sign language any time soon

PokeGeo1668 Maybe they will if someone teaches them.

Doesn't dumb in that meaning mean that they cannot talk (stum) ? And Koko of course had thoughts and could express them.

We will, if we stop eating things that contain palm oil.

And stop destroying their habitat.

tw ahahaha same reaction of my cat to me

Yeah I have one who hates kisses too. The other one literally gives kisses!

Mauro Goncalves well, as far as you know, based on limited human understanding, other animals don't have contempt. You should watch a documentary called The Superior Human. It's eye opening.

I will, but my point is, that emotions are regulated through our consciousness which is based on our human brain and because every animal differs in their brainstructure we are not the same. We fail to understand consciousness and can understand it best through spoken words. Based on our limited human understanding we can understand other human but we fail to understand other species, because we cant communicate with them. But I am sure that the human is superior to other animals if we look from an evolutionary point or just simply out of the window. We have intelligence like no other being that we know of. Thats a fact. But as we clearly can see with Koko or a handful of other species; we are not the only species that has consciousness and intelligence on a level of a human being. But emotions are regulated through neurochemicals and we know, that many animals dont have specific neurochemicals that we have. So we know, that they dont have the same emotions that we have.

Mauro Goncalves - I do realize that humans are animals. I think most humans have the same emotions, just display or respond to them differently (sociopaths being an obvious exception). I do believe that many other species actually do have many of the same emotions as humans. I don't believe in evolution. I see no way that a single-cell organism that reproduces a-sexually can evolve into such complex beings as, for one, humans with not only the male-female reproduction, but the brain, nervous system, etc. Of course, this is not the place to have a debate. Our two comments may give others something to think about...or not. I mean no disrespect to you or your opinions. :-) I just saw your second comment. This response was to only part of your first comment.

I think we have to close our eyes and ask ourselves how we feel and what that means for our life. And if we do, we have to ask ourselves how different we would feel when we wouldnt consciously know what we feel and just be without thought. Maybe if we understand ourselves better we could eventually understand how other humans with the same brain think. After that maybe we can look to science and let them discover how the brains of other animals work to understand their unconsciousness; but there is no way, we could understand sth like consciousness which we dont even understand in humans despite being able to communicate our understanding of ourselves. Luckily u dont have to believe in evolution for it to be true. I understand your problem of life evolving out of nothing, but whats the alternative? How long did u live? 30 years? 40? And now just look how long evolution had to produce male-female reproduction. It took 8.000.000.000 years.....until the earth was there and another few BILLION years until life was there. Just look at this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment. In a weeks time water, hydrogen, ammonia and methane changed to amino acids a compound of life. And life isnt something too mystical; just imagine your screen. 1080x720 pixel: 777.600 pixel. Now imagine a computer starting with all black and one white pixel in the middle. Then two white pixels and after a while hundreds of white pixels distributed in every possible way on the screen. The computer manages to make one possible picture every second and after enough time the computer would have simulated every possible (black&white) picture there is. My face, your face, a giraffe, etc. Everything we see is made out of atoms, which have electrons, neutrons and protons and the "universe" combined them like a computer randomly. The difference is that the universe had 13.000.000.000 years (4.745.000.000.000 days/6.832.800.000.000.000 seconds) with roughly 10^85=10.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 atoms to combine them in every possible way. I think its very likely that after such a long time with with so much possibilities to combine the things something really complex would emerge. And even if I dont believed it; this is the reality. First there was just Hydrogen and then all the other elements that combined in so much ways that we and everything around us - so different it may be - is composed of three (just imagine it; JUST 3) fundamental particles. Unbelievable BUT TRUE. I know you didnt want a debate, but as i read your text I just had to express this what was on my mind :D Now hopefully others have more to think about :D

Its true that we can say, that animals feel, but its not true, to say that they feel like humans do. It is almost impossible to understand an animal truly but we often humanize animals say we see them smile and stuff like that. We should try to understand them better then we do now, and maybe we shouldnt eat them. I was a vegetarian the last two years and it is really not hard but the question is: is there a moral outside the realm of human being? Is it wrong to ear meat? And if it is why is it? We can just say that its natural for humans to eat meat because we are omnivores and evolved to being able to eat meat. Its not necessary but its also not wrong. What I think is wrong is the lack of respect for our food. It seems like the thought is: If we eat it, its there for us and has no right except being nourishment for us and THAT IS WRONG, because with such a mindset everything we do to the animals is justified.

Yes they will we have many ,many koko's out in the world to protect. Each and every one of them are just the same as our baby girl koko was. May her legacy show ignorant human's how wrong the majority have alway's been where animal's are concerned. In fact I believe we should have been called animals and they be given the name human...ironic huh but true🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍

Jim B. It’s not funny

@@kafzyt7920 your right. ITS HILARIOUS!!!!

That was what I was gonna say

fairly similar. No relation.

really! if she had would she be this friendly with kittens? i hear gorillas are wild and would tend to eat cats if not tamed like this. I dont think she would have been a cat nanny with her real family

@TheCamshafter ooops! 🤪🤪🤪🙊 i believe i been schooled

@@tribefenatic I admire your handling of the error.

That was surprising

hipnhappenin she loves cat and cat loves her too

i want to know too

DEATHROW27 OMG OMG I SWEAR THAT'S THE MOST LITTEST THING I'VE HEARD......REALLY KJHFE VW IJHV FEW UGIV F YO THAT'S SOOOO LIT....THAT'S REALLY TRUE ....It could happen

No. When the experiment originally started in the 70s, there were multiple gorillas they tried to teach sign language. But only Koko picked it up. She's exceptional. What's more, she probably sees other gorillas "inferior" to her (as she doesn't consider herself being one). That might be the reason she always refused to mate with any males presented to her.

Marek Plerion Thank you for your very uhh useful reply I am now sad and feel stupid but thanks for doing the research

Don't be sad. Look at it this way - gorillas are just something different from us. Let them be themselves. I know looking at such thing as other species spreading our knowledge among their kind could be amusing to watch and maybe even provide us with some scientific data, but...wouldn't that be a bit selfish and "unfair" to them?

Lisa Gibson i

My firings dill

Lisa Gibson : Beautifully said. 🙏

The Joker Do you think there are millions of Ebola Viruses in heaven too? They only want one thing though, I suppose.

Goddamit.

Ray Alipio that is so old, that joke died about a week ago

Kriffing_schutta SAME! Idek anymore lol

Ya me too

Same

sine moderamine I think idk mean i don't know In the sense that I don't anything of this discussion not greatly care to know or not to know. while I don't even know. means I expect myself to know, therefore I have previous knowledge on the subject at hand

M Teach the uncultured 😂

Carolyn Nunes That Robin Williams video is one of my favorites!

Lauren Hazlett Robin loved the time he spent with Koko...he spoke about his time with her a lot-to anyone willing to listen!

They are both grey cats, but one looks darker. So... she named one black and the other grey?

Riley Sugarman join the club... it’s kinda creepy and idk how to feel about it 🤣

Algunos animales son acogidos en cautiverio por protección. En unos casos, porque afuera estaban enfermos o heridos y en otros porque su especie está bajo amenaza (está claro que no es el caso de todos y que sí hay casos en los que no es necesario mantener a un animal en cautiverio). Koko nació en un zoológico. Es muy poco probable que siendo puesta en "libertad" hubiera podido sobrevivir o defenderse. Me parece que tuvo una buena vida y que la cuidaron como necesitaba (si no, no hubiera vivido tanto).

Razor Black It's Harambe

you'll believe your in a parallel reality before you believe that people tend to make fake news stories? c'mon.

yes Koko died years ago.

Omaha Joe It was all over the internet bro

I bet I could play a great drinking game out of how many people have left the exact same comment on this video.

I saw a clip of Koko when she met a human baby. The baby belonged to a woman who had been one of Koko's caregivers when she was pregnant. Koko pointed to the woman's stomach and then to the baby. She was happy to point out and sign to Penny that the baby used to be inside the mommy and now was here :) It was so cute!

Rachel A. Aww...she would've been a wonderful mommy

Did Koko ever have babies of her own?

Veggie Soup i am not sure, but i remember she had requested for a baby gorilla before. I think they redirected her to baby kittens because it wouldve been to complicated to give her a baby

I remembered koko playing with dolls before.. She was obsessed with dolls until she decided to have a "baby gorilla" but, I think.. She can't have a baby? Or she just don't want to breed? I can't remember.. Then her caregivers gave her kittens instead since she loves kittens too.. She pointed out the 2 kittens she loved and communicate with the humans through sign language..