Update on the Karakurt-Class Ship Tsiklon -- Likely Sunk! (Rescue ships seen in area) 

True. Also if it was hit there is a good chance the superstructure suffered major damage and this would reduced the height. So either way it would need less depth to totally submerge it.

I was just going to write that it might have fallen over but you beat me by 12 minutes. I am crest-fallen.

If another ship is never seen using this berthing position, that would be circumstantial evidence there's something submerged there which they're avoiding. The constantly reducing number of Russian ships in Sevastopol means there's plenty of space on the piers so it wouldn't be conclusive, but I assume the fact that one of the most important remaining ships was allocated to that berth must mean there's something positive about it's location.

true--good point.

​@@allanmason3201Given Ukraine's recent successes, it might be a long while before Russia has the temerity to berth any ships at all in that harbor. I would really like to see them try, however.

Reefs yes, not coral reefs sadly.

​@@B.D.E.still helps with the biodiversity of the sea .

​@@adriansheldon7778 Not really though. It's far too polluting to have a net benefit, fuel chemicals, etc is horrible for the sea life.

​@@KityKatKiller active ships pollute too. Af least these don't receive a monthly supply of new chemicals anymore

coming up worlds longest fishing pier russia : ukraine : 😎😬😬

More like Sevastopol harbour triangle

@@venividiviking true, but I didn't want the other ship left out

@@bigblue6917 you're a fair person 😁👍👌

@@venividiviking How kind of you to notice😄

Makes you wonder why the Russians wanted it.

Almost a poem! Good job!

Could have been hit by a Russian tank turret.

@@junahn1907 ha ha

​@@bigblue6917 Fame and honour as Sevastopol has been the main Russian naval base for centuries. And Putin cares about fame more than people.

Dr. Wattson 🧐

He is isn’t he… The market needs to be saturated with Suchomimus patches/stickers, trading cards and plastered on the side of every one of these vehicles that he helped purchase via his generosity. Cheers

Lol Dinosaur boy is a Propagandist who only tells one side of the story. Funny how he never mentions Ukraines astronomical casualties.

Yes, they are losing ships, but be real, this is total nothingburger. There is no proof of anything here. And were you previously afraid of Russia? Why, are you 90 years old and grew up during the Red Scare?

Most of the nukes would be inoperable. It takes huge amounts of money and constant maintenance to keep nuclear weapons in working order. The propaganda value, though ...

@@abrahamdozer6273 Sounds like you have an itch you really want to scratch. Curiosity had some negative influence on the cat from what I hear.

@@allydeaMust be so embarrassing to be ruzzian, now that all your friends know you’re impotent.

@@allydea nah! Just rusky's reallity😎

Those and more of their repair docks..

They get gunned down by Russian Navy helicopters. Follow some other sources of info if you don't want to be half-stupid.

They like to use drone boats at night, and Russia doesn't move the rest of the ships until the break of dawn.... probably for that very same reason.

Somewhere, an Admiral is avoiding going upstairs in buildings.

They do as they are told.

⁠@@abrahamdozer6273, He probably quit drinking tea as well!

_Conclusive_ proof? How about _any_ proof? But don't worry, some people think the world is flat, so your unsubstantiated beliefs are not the worst in the world.

​@@allydea How about you prove it to us with a positive sighting? I won't hold my breath....

@@davefave4351 I'm not making any claims, therefore I don't need to provide anything.

@@allydea You are claiming it's not been sunk. That IS the claim you are making, right?

@@davefave4351 No, what I'm remarking is that no evidence has been provided in this video that the ship has been sunk.

Remember how impenetrable the orc air defences were supposed to be? Those are the guys staying away from open windows, and not really enjoying their food anymore. 😂

Glad you liked it!

No, max range for the ATACMS is 190mi, from the front line to Novorossisk is about 250mi. Still in range of Storm-Shadow/ScalpEG though.

@@colbunkmust ok, perfect. Neptune, the God of sea votes then for Storm Shadow 🤣

More importantly is that the western powers are still pooping their pants about “escalation” and won’t let their weapons be used inside Russia.

@@colbunkmust But once Crimea and the ban on the use of Western weapons on ruSSian territory will have fallen...

@@pierresaelen3097 If Ukraine retakes Crimea, there likely won't be a need to strike targets in Russia. I can't imagine Putin's regime lasting long after if that happens.

I can’t understand how clean com ments get , why ?

They only tend to roll over in deep water. Many ofl the ships at Perl Harbour were somewhat upright because they rolled back once they started touching the bottom. A ship has to go down pretty much perfectly sideways, or rolled further over than 90 degrees, for that not to happen to some extend. Since these were likely M58 ATACMS hits, I'd imagine the ship sunk somewhat straight, as they come down almost vertically, and have a penetrating warhead that can be set to delayed detonation. Modern corvettes are aluminium constructions, and the M58 warhead can penetrate several meters of concrete, so it's pretty likely they simply blew out the bottom of the ship.

@@andersjjensen So they're taller than they are wide and wouldn't likely roll on sinking, making it even less likely that they're sitting there under water that shallow, unless they're completely destroyed (entirely possible, considering the cargo of the missile ship)... One hopes they're completely destroyed.

Or, and just hear me out, it wasn't hit at all. I know, it's crazy, but just consider it for 1 second.

@@allydea That is a possibility. But then why the rescue ships & recovery crane? I think it is very likely something was hit. They rarely miss but a ship leaving just before the strike isn't impossible.

​@@allydeathen why the rescue ships? Cope harder

@@tracboy80 Because they are always there? That's like asking: _why does a doctor exist when there is no sick person near him at this exact time?_ I will cope harder when there is something to cope about. But you, you should fantasize less.

@@Sameoldsongdance Who knows? There may be plenty of routine reasons. But I would entertain the idea that "something" was hit. Even that a ship was hit. But to conclude that this particular ship was SUNK based on this "evidence" is a clear example of biased reasoning.

Good old octopus face - fine chap.

CIT?

@@suchomimus9921 Perhaps sigorolo means the Russian Conflict Intelligence Team (OSINT and HUMINT; an "undesirable organisation" founded by Ruslan Leviev, who for some time now has been given war update reports on Maxim Katz's YT channel on Sundays). CIT covered the Rostov-below-Don and other hits on the BS Fleet. Unfortunately, I have no Telegram - they have a channel there, I believe. 🇺🇦 Слава партизанам! 🇺🇦

@@suchomimus9921 ...perhaps that was what sigorolo suggested.

@@suchomimus9921 okay... last try, as my messages keep being converted into not being seen (just like they were trained by Monty P): onflict ntelligence eam.

@@suchomimus9921 They worked together with Bellingcat on the MH17 and did a lot of good work in bringing war crimes and cancelled persons to the wider attention

That water did look rather alge green. If the "soup" gets thick enough 1-2 meters is enough to reduce visibility to zero. I've had the displeasure of diving in such conditions.