I have the V7’s & SS2590’s, duals on both. To my ears, the V7’s are more neutral tuned, 2590’s are smoother & warmer. Sparkos have an edge in space size, separation, slight more laid back sound, slight more bass, better timbre to me. V7’s are more energetic, a more focused center noticeable w vocals, more balanced tonality overall. For my chain, gear, music & preferences, I like V7’s better BUT could easily see someone preferring the 2590’s. Tested w AKM4493 J2S w power elite ps, pro ican sig, Oyaide Class S usb, blue jeans interconnects, norne drausk cable, Eikon Classics, Caldera, Auteur Classic, HE1KSE
@@beefsupreme510please share your impressions in Head-Fi "Burson V7" forum, there are a lot of people waiting for this comparison between V7 and SS2590 👍👍👍
@beefsupreme510 Which one (SS2590 vs V7V) would you prefer for Metal, Rock and Electronic music? Also interested in your opinion about V6V vs V7V - is it really worth to upgrade? 🤔
Good to hear. I have the sparkos 2590 in a j3 pro, and it is great for some music but seems too warm and diffuse (less focused) to my ears. I am going to try out the v7 vivid, sounds like it would be more to my tastes. Nice having multiple upgrade options in case I change gear in the future.
I am glad to hear your review of the Burson v7 op-amps! Things are getting interesting, with more options. You definitely should review the "big" Sparkos - the dual mono DIP8 adapter with two SS2590 boards in it. These retail for ~$126US and they offer a 15% discount when you sign up for their (very infrequent) emails. Edit - if you get a response from Burson on what the trim pot is for, please let us know.
@@b30sail That's great! I have several of the SS2590 DIP8 units, and I love them! All my Geshelli J2S's have them in the RCA socket, and I have them in my AkitikA PR-102 preamp. In the XLR sockets of the J2S is where the Burson v7 should be compared with the Sparkos SS3602; because the "big" Sparkos can't easily fit there.
For anybody else looking at this later on, I bought a pair of the V7 Classics for my 4499 J2S. I had the Sparkos SS3602 in there before, and I tested this on both headphones and over my speakers. Over headphones on my Magni Piety, I could hear the tonal shift but didn't get much more than that. Granted, my headphone setup is not the highest quality. Over high resolving speakers though (Schiit Kara / Vidar 2 / SF Lumina II) there was a HUGE difference. The change in the soundstage was the immediate difference and it is so much bigger in really all directions, and I feel like you see into the mix way more with where things are. I would say that tonally it is maybe a bit more laid back, but not a ton. Just seems like a better balance to me.
This also helped me ... just ordered the J2S with V7 Classics. I live in Florida near Geshelli so am arranging to pick it up in person so they can swap the new one into my older J2 wooden box.
Awesome episode! I’m still going strong with the soloist 3XP and using the v6 vivids and sparkos. Will definitely have to pick up a pair of v7’s at some point.
I'm new to opamps, and what I've found in my research for comparisons and reviews, is that there aren't many comparisons and reviews. So, I appreciate hearing about your experiences. With more companies putting in swap-able opamps into their devices, we definitively need more videos highlighting the differences. That way we're not just throwing away money, in hopes that we'll get one that we like. Are you able to do comparisons against the SS2590?
Thanks for the comparison, i will also swap from the Sparkos to the Classic as i find my midrange to lean and i dont always want to be on tubes and lose some treble for some thickness.
Do you think you can get a hold of the spako's Pro version I don't know what they're called but basically they only make two kinds... I believe you mentioned it in your video. On their website they make it pretty clear that those are better than the 3601 and 3602. I would love to hear what you think and what it takes to get that put into a consumer level device because those are made for pro audio I believe
Just found your channel...great review! I'm curious as to what you'd recommend to pair with the Fosi ZA3 amp. Classic or vivid. Will be purchasing a Deshelli J2s w/4499 as well. My speakers are fairly neutral to warn Heco Aurora 300s. Thx!
Unless you specifically want a rich, warm sound, I'd go with the V7 Vivids - they'll match the base tonality of most devices and keep it close to the starting sound quality. P.S. I'm glad you found the channel and enjoyed the review!
Excellent review as usual, very detailed and insightful. I wonder if these will fit in my Kinki EX-M1+? I am using a pair of Bursons V6 classics right now, but it is a very tight fit and these seem to be shorter, but not necessarily thinner, and they will be touching components close to it, which is a worry since they run so hot.
I'm glad you liked the review! These have about the same footprint (and therefore overall width at the base) as the V6s. The heat shouldn't be enough to do damage to other components because the V7 is full of components of its own 🙂
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Wow, that sounds amazing. This is just right, I have to equip my second J2S. Thank you 😁👍 PS: When you present so excitedly, it always becomes really interesting
I'm a little surprised they apparently didn't increase the voltage handling of the V7s despite the additional cooling. Unfortunately that means they're a non-starter for me as my amp runs at 18v, and I'll have to stick with the Sparkos Labs opamps as they are among the few discrete options rated to handle that.
What ever discrete opamp you roll all of them are much better then the black plastic opamps. I never go back to those. In my dac i use the "old" V6 amps very pleased with those.
Please add more detailed comparison in your upcoming review, covering more aspects in sound quality of V7 vs V6 opamps 🙏 and also please cover comparison beetween V7 vs Sparkos SS2590 if its possible 🙏🙏🙏
I don't currently have the SS2590 anywhere that I can swap them to compare. I'm also not sure what else there is to say about the V7s vs the V6s, but there's a bit more in the Voyager review...
Great review! Just what I needed to decided! Already several years Soloist 3XP is in the heart of my systems for Headphones and Speakers but now I will have a refreshment.
Great advice to combine V7 vivids and classics in Soloist 3XP. The sound is much more pleasant and 'correct' sounding. Didn't notice any loss in soundstage or details, but upper treble is much smoother, but still present.
Did you also try V6? Is there a big gap beetween V6 and SS2590? 🤔🤔🤔 Also waiting for more reviews comparing V7 to SS2590, can't decide which opamp is better for an upgrade 🙄🙄🙄
Why not do some empirical testing? All these adjectives and descriptions are a bit… useless to be honest. There’s too much magic in describing audio gear. We have the tools and technology to measure, no need to fart-sniffing
There's plenty that we don't know how to measure yet (like soundstaging). Also, take a look at the video I released today as an example of how much we still have to learn about audio: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q_HfTgN1kB4.htmlsi=nNhyfaSrva6Xrzq1
Hi, great review. I'm using my Soloist 3XP only in power amp mode, so I guess I should upgrade only V6s at the input stage, correct? For me the Soloist in my audio chains is lacking in the base and is too hot in the upper mids, and not airy enough, so probably lacking somewhere in the treble. Which op amps would you recommend for me - V7 Vivids or Classic?
Definitely go for the V7 Vivids for what you're describing, but it won't completely transform the amp and it sounds like maybe you need to consider changing the whole amp instead to chase what you're after.
Looking at the Classic or Vivid V7's in a Geshelli J3 in a strictly speaker set up. Rotel 2 ch. amp and Wharfedale Lintons. Listen to vinyl too so thinking Classic or should i go Vivid due to my speaker setup?
I would go Vivid in most situations because they're a very balanced sound that will work with everything. The Classics lean into warmth and richness which could be too much of a good thing on some setups.
Very nice review as always. you gave some advice regarding the soloist 3xp, which one would you advice for the soloist 3xr gt (taking in mind that I own the tt2+ mscaler as well, and love that kind of sound). I noticed, especially after getting the tt2+ mscaler that little bit of hot treble of the soloist 3xr gt compared to the chord. I think the three stages are quite confusing, hence my question to you? which combi of th V7 would you advice in the soloist 3xr gt 2021 model + 5A supercharger? (I can always sent them back and try others, but it is nicer to get a good combi directly ;-) )
I would put a set of V7 Classics in the volume stage and V7 Vivids in the other sockets. I can't recall which socket is which on the Soloist GT, but it's all on the Burson website.
@@PassionforSound thanks. Did you mean by the volume stage, the ‘volume control buffer stage?’ I checked, there are three stages. Volume control buffer stage, input buffer stage, voltage gain stage.
I can't remember what's what inside the GTs, but I think the volume control buffer is the one that has a small influence and then the others start to have more influence (input buffer being the most IIRC). It's ideal if you can get the op-amps and then test them in each stage to see what you like most, but they might have different quantities of op-amps needed for each stage so you might need to choose how many to go for.
I own a Gesheli J2, and use the RCAs with the USB port on my computer into my Stereo amp. I would like to know what your thoughts are on V7s vs the SS2590s as I am considering upgrading my op amp for the RCA unbalanced output. Your opinions on performance, quality, leanings and why would be very appreciated..... Thank you for your reviews!
Hi Lachlan, thanks to you I installed in my topping dx7 dac ss3602 wich replaced the lme79720na. The result is magnificient. How much better is the V7 compared fo ss3602? Thank you.
Glad I could help! I'd say the V7s are a small step up on the 3602. Not as dramatic as the step from the LME to the Sparkos though. Hard to give anything more quantitative - sorry!
Anything that's not neutral / as it would sound with the instruments live in the room (i.e. the room where the recording happened) is coloured in some way. It could be more bass, more treble, a v-shaped, etc.
Great review ... I have Burson 3XP Soloist paired with Meze Empyrean. I like the idea of the Classic V7 sound you described, but how much influence will that have on the sound through the Empyreans, which are inherently already on the warm side ?
I reviewed the Staccatos here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0e9d3Hf0uq4.htmlsi=yl0ExL_K0yK0QsIH and preferred the Sparkos so the V7s will be even better still.
Always pays to check with the manufacturer before you start swapping op amps, sometimes other parts of the circuit are designed for very specific voltages etc and swapping can cause problems. I read a forum thread on this a while back but can’t remember where!
Have you checked the data sheet on these things ?? The input bias current of 120 uA is 10,000 times more than a LM4562 or 5 orders of magnitude.!! That is totally ridiculous. That's going to create issues with offset voltages and noise particularly with circuits with high resistance !! Why on earth would you use something like this ? Even the venerable NE5532 has an input bias current of 1uA or typically 200 nA and input offset current is only 10nA !! And the input offset current of this burson opamp is 80uA !! The LM741 designed back in the 60's has only an input bias current of 1.5uA max and offset current of 80 nA !! Surely this burson datasheet must be a misprint otherwise how is that better than an IC opamp ? I think someone needs to go back to the drawing board.
I tried the Staccatos back here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0e9d3Hf0uq4.htmlsi=yl0ExL_K0yK0QsIH and preferred the Sparkos (and maybe Bursons?) so the V7s will be better having now surpassed the Sparkos. (All based on my gear and my preferences, of course)
When I found out Geshelli was literally just in a neighboring town for me, I had to go visit--so I made a factory appointment. I must say everything is true about how nice these group of people are. Myself and Geno went to the listening room and I directly compared the TI op amps to the Sparkos Pro and for most tracks I actually prefer the TI. That could be because the TI were in the potent dual-mono DayZee and the Sparkos were in the upcoming J3 (yes the benefits of going on site :) The 2590 is a little bit bassier... but that drowns out some of the nuances. What they didn't have on hand were either of the Bursons... So I was only able to hear between two. I have no idea just like tubes you can roll Op-amps as well. Did you by chance have the default TIs to compare to the Bursons?
That's great that you went to visit and meet the team! I'd say the TIs had a huge advantage being in the Dayzee. Dual mono DAC designs will always be significantly better than an equivalent stereo design. I compared the TIs to the Sparkos in my J2S review here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z37gqd-vGsA.htmlsi=RsWIQX3iP7EH0XyD
This is my conclusion for headphones the original op amp sounds a lot better for me. For regular speakers (studio monitors) sparkos hands down I wouldn’t change them for the world, pure ear orgasm
What is the point of spending 150+ for opamps in a dac if the opamps in the amplifier are different my guess is the amplifier has the final say in the sound quality.
What you hear is the cumulative effect of all your components working together, so even if you only swap op amps in the dac you will hear a clear difference.
I have ordered the V7 Vivid 'upgrade pack' for the Conductor 3 reference. Apparently, the pack contains 2 x V7V dual opamps & 2 x V7V single opamps. Curious to know why & where do the singles go?
@@PassionforSound V7's arrived yesterday. There are diagrams for every Burson unit on their website, so it was easy to change them out. I expected a subtle change in audio, but was shocked at how different everything sounds. I've only listened to a handful of tracks so far, but the clarity and detail retrieval is incredible. Everything sounds like, remastered or something with just a smidge of warmth. Absolutely worth every penny!
As always great work sir. I have 2 questions. 1. Did you mean and used sparkos S3062 in this review while comparing with burson op amps? 2. I have 3XGT old one. Is it really worth the money to upgrade from v6 to v7 ? because these are costly op amps. Thanks.
Glad you liked the video. Yes, in both cases. SS3602 op-amps from Sparkos and the V7 really is better than the V6 (and yes, it's a costly upgrade, but the difference is quite significant IMO)
I'm using a set of Single V6 Classics and a set of Dual V6 Vivids on a Creative Soundblaster AE-9. It's the best of both worlds. I'm trying to figure out wheter this is worth the upgrade.
Hello, Please make the effort and do a review to Burson Playmate 2 with those op-amps (Compared to the Geshelli Labs J2S Dac + Archel 3 Pro Amp, even better)! Thanks
I haven't confirmed, but I think the Gemini op-amp is soldered in so these would fit (the Sparkos op-amp is way bigger), but it might require some modifications in terms of soldering and adapting to an 8-pin socket connection.
Many users have BB 2134,Opa 627 and diverse Analog devices op amps in use. What is the Burson,Sparkos comparison to these types of integrated amp chips
What’s some suggestions for the Soloist 3XGT and Voyager? I have the 3XP as well and I’m going with your recommendation of the Vivid in gain and classics In the volume. The XGT and Voyager also 6 op amps instead of 4 like the 3XP.
Very helpful review Lachlan. My local Burson rep doesn’t allow tinkering with op amps in store demos so this is a very useful guide for those looking to upgrade to the V7’s.
Very strange....in Indonesia, the seller even encourages you to roll the opamps because of "personal preference". The sound and synergy is very important.
@@didioentoro7575 not in Vancouver. The rep doesn’t want the user touching the gear at all. It’s a great headphone bar and you’re allowed to plug in your own source equipment within reason but you’re not allowed to tube roll or open up any gear to swap op amps.
It's pretty cool when you can try stuff out, but it's not uncommon for that to be limited when dealing with electronic devices. I'm glad you found the video helpful!
Thanks Lachlan! This is muy intriguing about the V-7s - especially the part about being "better" than the Sparkos SS-3602s, my all-time fav discrete opamp so far. Though I haven't tried the Staccatos nor the Sonic Imageries - I've found the Sparkos to have the best blend of "analog" sound quality characteristics, timbre, "limitless" bass depth, and overall balance out of all IC and even the Burson V6 Vivids when used inside my headphone amp/preamp driving Hifiman Arya Stealths and PSB Imagine XB speakers (in their current rotation).
I just upgraded my Burson Audio Soloist 3XP to the V7 Classic. Needs to burn in some I’m sure but already I feel like it’s a decent upgrade worth doing. Bass seems tad punchier. Highs and mid great and overall quieter. I just also did the Silent upgrade to my Soloist 3XGT as well. Sounds great! Also worth doing for 299.00 and easy. I’m considering doing the V7 in the GT as well but it takes 6 op amps so little more expensive than in the Soloist 3XP that took 4. I’m running Chord Cutest and M Scaler for both amps along with upgraded linear power supplies and cables.
@@PassionforSound Yeah 6 op amps makes that one a bit pricey. I noticed in the 3XP when changed to V7 Classics right away bigger sound stage. They haven’t burned in very long but also seem to be hearing more instruments and more separation. Overall quieter than V6 as well it seems.
Hi Passion, can I mod an Adi-2 Dac FS with these? How many would I need? I don't want to get into an argument but I will use the nicest words I can about the aforementioned dac: I hate it to death. I have an Apollo X8... it doesn't sound good. And I have a Motu M4 that sounds pretty good. But maybe I was hoping to fix the Adi-2 dac with these opamps? Thanks.
I'm sorry to say that I have no idea if the ADI-2 has swappable op-amps. It might be worth checking on forums or else cut your losses, sell it and get something you'll enjoy more. Sorry I can't help more!
@@PassionforSound I wish the world had more attentive and kind and generous people like you. You have been very guiding, believe it or not. I have great news, but I am going to bed now. I will say though that probably the DAC and the Apollo are staying. Will elaborate more if you are willing to read later my thoughts and reactions. (I will have to watch the Jotunheim video again and probably the ADI-2 DAC video of yours before asking more questions). :) Best to you.
@@PassionforSound Thank you Passion. Finally finished writing my reply on a Notepad, here it comes. I will have to edit it within the comments section because it's kind of long, I hope you have the time (maybe when you are drinking your coffee or tea or something, 🤭(EDIT: It seems I didn't have to edit it, nice, the whole enchilada is there...so... WE ARE LIVE!|) 😎
Hi Passion, thanks for taking me seriously. Maybe not your intention exactly but you have made me feel like a human being. (Note added after my long ass writing: Sorry, tried to be brief as possible. I swear!). Ok, since it seems your channel is a very positive one, I will refrain from saying negative stuff. And to keep it brief, I will even spare you the background/context of my findings. Just want to lay it out there: Took me YEARS and YEARS to finally have a good (in this case very good) sound. NOT harsh. To me this is very important in/for my comment. Started with the Scarlett 2i2 1st Generation. All the way to having an Apollo X8 (last 3 I have acquired I already mentioned: Adi-2 DAC and Motu M4). Add to that an Apple iphone dongle. Last headphones I got are the HD 800s. I have the 820 (you have no idea what I have done to them trying to get a good sound, not harsh... but it wasn't the headphones fault, little did I know). Oh yeah, little did I know... (love that phrase from Strangers than Fiction, the movie). Oh, want to mention, I love music, I love making music. I was in a band since I was 15 (not in a band anymore, too many issues, lol). And, from my POV, is that I have a great ear (but not experience to achieve it). All I know is that if I hear something and to me it sounds bad, it is bad. Of course this applies if you want to think of it as my tastes. Not trying to apply my beliefs or opinions onto others. Aaaaaaanyway, I have done a very long intro, so the story short: Since I got the Liquid Platinum headphone amplifier, it only gave me issues: Tubes died too fast on me. Bought a "better" pair (Gold Lions something) on Amazon, died like in a week. Bought a different pair... sounded great but I think I made a wrong purchase, since the lows distorted like crazy, I think they were meant to be used on a guitar amp. Then I bought on TubeDepot 2 pairs of JJs (because if a pair turned out to be good, I wanted to have a spare). Amazing company, they treated me like a king. Anyway, when the JJs arrived (I had the Liquid Platinum for ages, but it was stored because of the issues and I couldn't lift a finger anymore wasting my time on it, just said to myself "one day...") this is like 2 weeks ago, or maybe 3: I tried the HD 800s on them using the SE output jack... It was HORRENDOUS (this is the only negative I will mention, I promise, just very necessary to mention). It had some good sound, but felt like the whole room was inexistent, more like the reverb or space of each element in the music was not there, and had no bass or highs or very highs. I was veeery disappointed. But in the back of my head I was "It can't be it! I know this can sound better because of my experience with the guitar amp tubes I mentioned earlier". I was just tired of trying again and again, so I took my time to go back to it. Then after commenting I didn't like the Adi-2 Dac or the Apollo X8... I finally lifted a finger and opened the HD800s box and got the balanced cable... Ohhhhhhhhhhh wow... now THIS is a good sound. Very good sound. (I used to have a THX 789 headphone amp, but at the time (ages ago) I didn't have a good DAC, I don't think I even know there were dedicated DACs. So I sold it. Discontinued anyway so I don't think of it anymore.) Ok, so, I know that in your review you are not very happy with it. I understand. But from my journey, starting with a Scarlett 2i2 interface... all the way to now... It's like... ear revealing sound can get this good. To my ears, it sounds 1000x better than the headphone amp of the ADI-2 DAC, or the Apollo X8. This is the sound that should be the default on the aforementioned interafaces/dacs. Like the bare minimum. Won't go there so will focus on the Liquid Platinum. First of all, main thing, like really, MAIN thing is: It DOESN'T sound harsh. At all! I know it's not perfect. But let me reiterate... I don't want to be tiresome... but... It DOESN'T sound harsh. It kicks like a mule. It separates so well the intruments. It has this cleanliness to it. I hate to use words trying to describe anything's sound because there's WAY more to it, but I am trying. Vocals sound very good. Kick drums omg sound amazing. Snares too. Here... snares, don't sound like in your face trying to tear your eardrums off. Snares in particular sound amazing. They keep the body, they keep a certain punch, very hard to describe (I have 3 songs in particular, I mean, saved, where in any other device the snare sounds like it's 10000 dBs higher than the rest of the music). Relation kick drum/bass is superb, you can feel the notes bouncing off each other. This leads to perceiving the rythm of the music like... uff... super precise. I loved that. I don't know what the designer was thinking, but I could tell he has soooo way too much experience in sound. Not perfect because maybe still elements in the music still lack a little bit of space, and it FEELS (maybe I am right, what do I know) is that the tubes saturate certain frequencies and depending on the song, and sometimes well, it doesn't work at all, but other times it sounds super good. The only REAL con is the SE headphone output. When I read on Headfi and SBAF, maybe on ASR that it was subpar... I wouldn't believe it. Because you know, sometimes people tend to exaggerate things... wow... not in this case. Difference was massive. What I don't understand is why the sound of the headphone amp of the ADI-2 DAC FS pales in comparison, why did RME release a product with such a ... let's say weak headphone output (not speaking about power). But again, I don't wanna go there. Also, I don't understand how a headphone amp can make way better the sound of a DAC. I really thought the ADI was... let's say ewwww to put it mildly. I want to focus on the good. So... right now it seems that the ADI-2 DAC has a good or very good circuit stage so the audio from its outputs probably is stellar. This leads me to believe I have to keep it. And use it with the Apollo X8 via spdif (already did this but didn't have the Liquid Platinum on service). Haven't tried directly the Liquid Platinum with the Apollo X8. And now I have a question or 2 or... You already answered me but still, I gotta ask again, because the Geshelli has only 1 year warranty, Schiit at least 2: (Have a Magni+ headphone amp, it is not bad, but not ear revealing as the Liquid Platinum). Even if the Geshelli has only 1 year warranty, should I get that one? Or the Jotunheim will "suffice". I want the best sound possible. I don't care too much about space or being in the room with the band, or in front of the singer, I don't see sound that way. But probably it should have this "hit like a mule" factor from the Liquid Platinum, and snares not being in your face as I explained above. I watched your whole Jotunheim review again, it FEELS it's the right choice. Or the Mjolnir (although I don't want to spend too much right now, lol, and knowing it has a hum, I know, normal for the device, not a complain, but if I am gonna record vocals with my Apollo X8, the hum would be an off-side.) Wanted to add: You are like the first person I hear that expresses rather well about something, you use words like fantastic, whereas lots of other youtubers even refrain from saying they liked something, as if they didn't like it. Super weird.
I'm tempted to try V7's in a pair of Fosi V3 Mono amps. I wonder if I should try the same combo, 1x Vivid and 1x Classic in each amp? Have you tried this yet?
I'm not sure if they're positive and negative or not (never looked into it) so much as stereo vs mono. As said above, it's just a question of having one or two channels of signal processing to match the original op-amp that was in the device. There's a table on the V7 page on the Burson site that can help identify which version you need.
How does the low bass in the Burson V7 Vivids compare to that of the Sparkos? I currently have a pair of Sparkos singles in my DAC, which replaced a pair of V6 Vivid singles because the bass on the Sparkos made the sound fuller and more impactful.
I'd say the V7s are now more like the Sparkos. I don't think it's that the bass has changed so much as the treble no longer gets in the way. Regardless, the result is that the V7s have excellent tonal balance from top to bottom and don't lag on the Sparkos anywhere IMO.
I'm thinking of replacing my dual V6 Classics with a pair of V7 Classics in the input/voltage stage of my DAC. Based on your review, I should expect more detail, better instrument separation and a deeper soundstage. Is that correct?
@@PassionforSound ended up going with Burson v7 Classic's based on your assessment, as I'd prefer detail and spaciousness over a more "flat" response. Also appreciated the clear direction on Burson over Sparkos. I run a desktop setup for headphones so had to get the 2 chips in order to have the XLR outputs covered. Twice as much but can't beat the XLR connectivity between the DAC and Headphone amp.
@@gregmoore1661 I use the V7 Classic in my Geshelli J2 socketed DAC with my Klipsch Chorus II and tubes system. Best DAC out of eight I have used over 20 years.
I can’t say enough how I appreciate you getting back to me. I’m guessing you have listed the associated equipment you used to listen. Mine would be through a two channel speaker system. Headphones and speaker systems are very different as you well know.
You can fit them in lots of desktop devices, particularly the new design. They're no good for portable gear, but you can't get a tiny chip that's also a discrete circuit.
Do you have to know how an Op amp or anything functions from an engineering standpoint to hear a sound difference? We are all glad you are an engineer or an electronics guy. Good for you. I guess that makes you an expert on how they sound in deficient devices?
I did something interesting I plugged both xlr and rca to aune s17. The first thing you notice is the rca volume is very noticeably louder then the xlr which really made my brain itch lol. I feel like my Geshelli multiplied and now I have two different sounding dacs in one. Only in America 🇺🇸 lol
So I did the V7 Vivid in input and V7 Classics in the other 4. Sounds great. I didn’t listen that long though with just the 6 Vivids it came with but to me sounds better and warmer for sure.
