Upgrading a CHEAP Violin with a Master Setup

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Hey there, it's Edgar!
Remember that affordable Chinese violin I dropped off the Po River bridge a few months back? Well, it's time to give it a makeover and see how much we can enhance its performance within some limitations.
Our challenge is to make this violin more playable and comfortable without the need for major structural changes.
I'll walk you through the process as we fine-tune and optimize various aspects of the violin. From changing the bridge, the soundpost, chinrest and tailpiece to refining the nut and pegs, these tweaks can significantly impact the playability and tone of the instrument.
But that's not all! To truly gauge the improvement, I've teamed up with musician Lena Yokoyama. Together, we'll put the violin to the test, comparing its sound before and after the upgrades. This sound test will reveal the tangible difference that a master setup can make on an affordable violin's overall performance.
If you have some questions feel free to send me an eMail to edgar@eruss.it
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Edgar
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@dvides89 10 месяцев назад

If Lena is having a hard time playing a violin like this, do you imagine a beginner? It’s no wonder people have such a hard time learning violin with bad instruments.

@asdlfkjlkasdfasdf 10 месяцев назад

Hi, I'm the one who plays the viola around $1000. Surely it's Chinese-made. I recommend anyone who loves cheap instruments like me to be very careful about the condition of the neck. After around 3 years of owning this viola, I found that the neck was out of joint. (This was because the original glue used on it was weak and odd.) I also replaced the saddle, soundpost, and bridge. So I've already paid the repairman more than the price I paid when I purchased the instrument itself. My Chinese viola now sounds really nice, so I'm satisfied with the result. If we are serious and dare to choose an instrument like this, we always have to be prepared for the cost of repairs! I really wish I could have an Italian instrument someday because I know they are the best. "Cheap but fine instrument" < "Good instrument among the very well made ones, preferably Italians".

@hunterblakely87 10 месяцев назад

Loving your edits lol. Thanks for sharing with us. I've learned a lot watching your channel and hope to some day build my own violin.

@hallsf 10 месяцев назад

One of the best videos you've created! Thanks. All three of you are clearly classical masters. I salute you. I do my best, but kind of sidestep such amazing setup on the fiddles I build---after all, they are abstract and experimental ; )

@RB-cp6vm 10 месяцев назад

Someone should place a label inside of the violin that says, "Dropped from the Po River bridge, 20xx." Part of its provenance!

@Fireman9143 10 месяцев назад

I'm looking forward to the comparison video you mentioned at the end

@davidbrandt6925 10 месяцев назад

Very nice sound after working on it.

@tomerdvir2394 2 месяца назад

Hi Edgar thank you for the video ! Just keep in mind that the scala perfetta is 4000 euros and this violin is 70

@oxoelfoxo 4 месяца назад

fun video!

@srinitaaigaura 10 месяцев назад

This is exactly what I did with my $60 dollar violin after playing on it 15 years. It sounds remarkable given its price now.

@deanjones2525 9 месяцев назад

Professional luthiers and violinists are rightfully biased when it comes to the quality of an instrument made by a master. However, cheaper assemly-line violins can, on occasion, give a rich and high-quality sound with the right setup. I would love to see a blind sound test experiment to see if the professionals can tell which is the cheap violin, as opposed to the high-quality violin made by someone like Edgar.

@kaskkafal1637 6 месяцев назад

More time to craft, more quality wood to choose, more,more,more, if you want to do an instrument from wood, you'll have to wait a lot, the main thing is to have a fully dry wood i think. But its impossible, its a living material. When i make an electric guitar, i'll wait six years for drying the mahogany or flame maple in my home and in a isolated small room (sounds better than what you know from an electric guitar). Shortly, more time is more money, am not a money guy but people worth it like that. So i think edgar solves these puzzles many many years ago i enjoy his videos so much thank you.

@user-wz2qe2pv6r 10 месяцев назад

Close miced Edgar is vereeey good indeed. Can you re-do all ur old videos now plse?

@duncanmacraven4024 7 месяцев назад

I'm getting in a super cheap violin and ordered upgrades as well. I figured that it's a great way to learn violin maintenance and upgrades. I will probably transfer the goodies to the next more expensive violin in my future next year.

@adrianilie28 6 месяцев назад

I think buying a more expensive violin it's better. At least the base it's better and you would have more fun upgrading that.

@twoblink 4 месяца назад

Getting a better violin is better; but if you get a cheap one; I found that just changing to a wittner composite tail piece and a wittner chin rest increases the sound greatly.

@polen66 10 месяцев назад

I love Lena❤❤❤❤❤

@andychen4295 10 месяцев назад

China also made great violins nowadays.

@lloydsplace101 6 месяцев назад

she can make any violin sound good to me

@davidlowther8886 Месяц назад

Lena 🥰

@michaelblaney4461 8 месяцев назад

I know that a €70 Violin is not good but what should someone pay for a student violin or viola of correct woods ? Would a €400 setup also be needed for that as well ? When do the expenses end?

@elenamombelli1346 10 месяцев назад

Very interesting and funny

@gimaru1 10 месяцев назад

That violin sounds great after the adjustments! Mr. Edgar, I suggest a new business model for you. Buy these violins and spend another 30 min to adjust them to make them sound great and sell them. Less work than making a violin from scratch😂 I’m just kidding. Nice video as always.

@Claxen11 5 месяцев назад

My question is why not directly buy a violin worth 500 at this point?! Is this modified violin better than a 500 one?

@adrianilie28 6 месяцев назад

It's a nice experience to upgrade this cheap violin, but I would just buy a 500 Euro violin. I think it would be constructed better and it would be more suitable for a beginner.

@ramkumarsathiakumar6397 10 месяцев назад

why the colour of the nut is keep changing during the playing, I am confused

@oxoelfoxo 4 месяца назад

do you mean the part where it switches from before and after the upgrade?

@umiviolalefut1593 10 месяцев назад

👍

@andrzejtruchan5236 10 месяцев назад

I'm think you open this violin & make thicknes Bassbar

@RosaGrau2014 10 месяцев назад

She changed bows...

@charliegrandison1176 10 месяцев назад

😂 ❤❤❤

@kornfedboy 3 месяца назад

....[sigh]...Lena...!!

@earthearth5188 10 месяцев назад

Violin learning has nothing to do wih the price of the instrument.

@UkuleleIsle 10 месяцев назад

If it's too difficult to play, and has an unpleasant sound, a beginner is much more likely to quit.

@kenz5469 4 месяца назад

Mostly has to do with the setup

@ghlscitel6714 10 месяцев назад

looks like cheating. The bow does not look original (Chinese). A raw fingerboard mafe of ebony is really not expensive, same with saddle.

@mikhail.osckin 5 месяцев назад

cool video, too much editing - those clicks are irritating

@twoblink 4 месяца назад

When your G has auto vibrato... yikes...

@aredesuyo 10 месяцев назад

You're kind of overdoing the visual and sound effects. If we're watching things like this at all, you can assume that we don't have the attention span of a 6-month old.