Remember to enable HT. The Xeon definitely has it! You can also remove the microcode for it from the BIOS to force an all core boost. On older H81 and B85 boards, you can downgrade to an older version of its micro code and then manually adjust the multiplier. I love Haswell - the last platform that you can really stretch with mods and that still had good pricing and compatibility before Intel started locking down whatever they could.
I had no idea, turns out it does have HT! That's insane, I had no idea Haswell was capable of all of that, especially since my main PC has been Haswell for the better part of a decade until pretty recently.
@@baremetaltechtv resizable bar or SAM it will give up 12 percent performance increase in gaming with nvidia and amd if your using a intel gpu i think its up to 30%
The 1246v3 does have HT you need to enable it in the bios ❤ Have one in my white modded Optiplex 3020 with a RX6600 and 550w 80+ PSU beastly little thing for what it all cost
Huh. You're right. I honestly didn't even check the specs since I had to get it completely last minute on a whim. That sounds like a solid little build, did you have to use an adapter for the PSU?
I enjoy watching videos like this where old PCs are upgraded. It's amazing to me how the addition of more RAM and an SSD can improve performance, let alone a more powerful GPU.
I promise it's just the corner of a room stacked with all my camera gear and random computer parts. Usually I give/sell whatever I use for videos to people I know, but no one wants the $100 gaming pc haha
I love your videos. I stumbled on your channel yesterday and it reminded me of when I built a hacked together ivy bridge xeon with chinese motherboard, 500gb ssd plugged into the motherboard as there is only 1 sata 3 port, and a pcie to sata card with 2 2tb ssd's in raid 1 running rocky linux 9. I haven't done much as I am lazy, but I plan to install lxd on there and configure it to have 2-3 vm's in there so I can host an email server and maybe even an onlyoffice server and an nginx proxy for the two vm's to connect to the main ip. I know it can be done since a coworker has a similar setup, but I am not sure how to do it yet myself.
Thank you! That sounds like an awesome setup. I'm not quite there yet, I'm still just diving into basic stuff like automatic backups between all my devices, and hosting my own password manager.
I upgraded my 1150 platform to the max, with a Xeon E3-1285L v3, 32gb DDR3 1600, SSDs and an RTX 2060Super. Still acceptable performance on a PC I started investing in almost a decade ago.
With an adapter you could use an NVMe as storage and also bootdrive... To max out 16x PCIe 3.0, one would need to upgrade to even higher end GPU. So you have still some options.
If you don’t wanna use janky adapters for sata to pcie, you can just cut off the sata connector and directly solder it to the cable. Did that so I could use a cheap, but good psu from supermicro and it works fine.
honestly at that point its worth coughing up the 20$ to buy a chinese 600 watt psu and just build a system that only uses 2/3 of its rated power and getting some power adapters for the dell mobo
Go into the BIOS man and enable HT... It has it and would limit your CPU bottlenecks a bit.. ;) Great video though! I scavenge old PC hardware and build stuff like this all the time, it's good to see someone else making good vids about it.
The Titan XPP is on the way along with some sketchy power adaptors for a new power supply! If that doesn't bottleneck whatever CPU I decide on, I'll most likely delay the video and see if I can't get my hands on an RTX 2080 or 2080 ti.
We are on the same journey. I have a 4c/4t Xeon on a c226 board from a lenovo thinkserver. I added in my own psu from an old build and used one of those 24-14pin adapters. I also have a gtx 1650 super I got for $70 locally, got real lucky with that. I’m gonna see how far I can stretch the 4 cores but I do wanna upgrade to a better Xeon in the future
Yeah the four cores is starting to get a little limiting nowadays for me. I'm considering making a budget Ryzen pre-built video to see if it's possible to make a $300ish Ryzen build yet
While the PCIe can supply 75w. I believe GPUz can tell you how much it is supplying. Other videos have reported that the power is often split between the PCIe and the Power plug. Should still be ok.
If you're still looking for a used gaming laptop, check out the dell g5 with an amd 5600m. i got one with a ryzen 4800h for 400$ on ebay a few months ago. they're around the same speed as the rtx 3050/1660 mobile!
@@aChairLeg the 4800h was definitely a good deal! But ones with a 4600h or 5600h are definitely sub 500$ just buy it now currently so still a good deal. But of course no worries on your video being delayed, the others you've put out have been awesome! Obviously you aren't made of money but like you're trying to do a sub 500$ ryzen build, 8th gen intel prebuilts have been getting to the 200$ area. One of those plus a 1080ti/5700xt/rx 6600(or something better) and a psu could also fit in that price range. Just a thought on a comparative style build. Maybe the new optiplex meta kind of deal.
Dude Why did you buy a gtx 1650 for $250 dollars? Is only $200 or $170 or $150 at Amazon brand new. You got ripped off. Upgrade your power supply to 500 watts and there's a adapter 24 pin to 8 pin you can buy it cheap on eBay or Amazon.
@@samsonsanthosh oh ok. I got ripped off $260 bucks for a Asus GTX 1050 ti but the GPU was brand new when i first bought it 2 years ago during the pandemic and I shouldn't have waited. Damn scalpers you know 🙄
@@samsonsanthosh i know. it was my first time getting into PC gaming. oh well lesson learned. I get what I pay for 🙄but no worries. i already upgrade my GPU. here my ultimate Dell Optiplex 9020 custom budget build. Link 😁 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3-aGQ1xwKPk.html
Bought my son a used Optiplex 5055 with a ryzen 5 1500x 16G ram and a weird oem amd 450 (with 4gb )that shows up as a rtx 550 on amd's software. For less than $200, it was plug in and go 1080p gaming for him on most titles with a one year warranty. You can beat refurb, I will never buy a new system again.
i love budget builds... my secound and third build where budget builds too :) i also had a optiplex :D its so nice how much power you get for small money if you build yourself and buy used!!! i mean 250 dollars this is nothing everyones phone cost more but cant do shit u get so much joy bcs. you can do and play so many many games... this is why i love pc i have a series x, but i sell and and build myself a rather high end pc with rx 6950 xt :o what annoyed me on the series x: the game library, its not bad but its joke compared to pc you cant change graphic settings.. on pc you can play oder titles with higher resolution and antialiasing.... on xbox ur stuck with the game versions... playing games like half life 2, fallout new vegas, fallout 3 in high settings is just a blast input delay is also a big issue on consoles... not every game but alot of games feel rather unresponsive compared to pc i connected my office pc and series x to my 4k monitor and tried half life 2 on pc and compared it with games on the series x... i was shocked seeing that ever game on series x looked worse in terms of sharpness... some came rather close, but modern titles like witcher 3 the next gen upgrade... it looked so blurry compared to half life 2... i bought the series x because i thought 4k and 2070 super and backwards compatibility is not bad but the power of the console is not enough to justify the 4k resolution... the 4k resolution doesnt help if the settings and texture details are turned down to make shure it runs smooth... the freedom of gaming pc is worth every penny
@@aChairLeg i also had never issues with used parts.... i like that pc parts are not made to break after warranty :D yeah i really got into "what is important, what should i spend my money for".... so its like a budget high tier build amd 3600 75 euros (its enough for now, i play at 4k and dont need ultra high framerates) ddr4 + pcie3 mainboard 75 euros ddr5 and pcie4 is overrated cheap nvme m2 ssd 2TB 120 euros (a normal one is enough to benefit from future direct storage games) 32 GB ram ddr4 for 85 euros (could also go for 16 gb, but the price difference was to small on the used market, and it was a good offer) 750 psu gold+ rated (used, but only 2 years old) and 6950xt for 720 euros used with 1,5 years warranty left for me was important to get the right parts to not stopping the 6950xt doing the hard work at 60 zo 80 or whatever fps (will most likely cap 60 because of monitor freesync)
Honestly I would go with a third party PSU and just use some PSU to dell motherboard adapters. I've done it with my HP workstations without any issues at all. The adapters are super cheap.
You cant beat my mr firehazard 254w psu i5 2600 16gb of some ddr3 and a rx 570. Ohh and the power was from the sata power connectors on the motherboard(yes connector on the motherboard not from psu) totally enough powwr there. Only 1 fan header working on the motherboard. And did i mention its sff. Ohh boy. Paid a total of 70$ for everything. Well not the ssd but that came from something else i was working on
Ermmm that CPU is hyperthreaded. (Edit: I've just read the comments and you already know). I always upgrade these Optiplex machines to Xeons. They run so well. I've made a few videos on it.
Very cool, love that you did the heat test with the adptors. 👍 For premere I can only imagine that going to the xeon with hyper threading would make quite a big difference. I beleve a intel hyperthread on average adds about 40% of a real core. Although it will lower the single thread performance very minorly. I do not know if this optiplex passes its 12v through the motherboard and this may actually be the limiting factor on power and I have no clue what the lowest rated link in that chain is. (Probably the motherboard side of the sata cables. If i had to guess. Dell doesn't use a standard connector that I am aware of) But with that 1650 coming off two independent wires you should be fine. I was supprised that the cpu wasn't more of a limit in games. Although in fallout 4 it was hitting a cpu limit. Still held the physics limit so not really an issue.
I'm very curious to see how it would perform with a proper CPU with hyper threading. I may have to revisit with a 4770 or 4790 and see how that would compare to just building a PC from scratch with slightly newer hardware. F04 has always been a bit of a CPU hog for me personally, I bet in the city it would have started to stutter.
Just a tip, if you want less of a fire hazard, try molex instead of sata adapters for the gpu! They're much safer for powering GPUs and older GPUs did use them for power
I don't think any optiplex sandy bridge or newer came with molex. Haswell ones may get 12v sata power through the motherboard as the 5v/3.3v regulation is done on the motherboard. And the psu is 12vo (not intel spec 12vo though)
I think he meant $250 for the total build cost. The original video was supposed to be only less than $100 but he wasn't satisfied with the performance.
@@aChairLeg I see. I got ripped off $260 bucks for a Asus GTX 1050 ti but the GPU was brand new when i first bought it 2 years ago during the pandemic and I shouldn't have waited but oh well. Damn scalpers.😒 Good thing I bought another GPU Zotac 1660 super for $200 dollars at amazon Black Friday sales😉
This certainly beats my IdeaCentre K410. I like that Lenovo makes PSU swaps easy by having standardized connectors (unlike Dell), but I kind of hate the BIOS whitelist they implement. I'm stuck with a 660Ti as a result (only GeForce 6XX cards are approved). That being said, swapping the GT 610 for a GTX 660Ti was a "night and day" difference and well worth the PSU swap, but still not as good as it could have been if they had left the BIOS alone like Dell does. In the end, the tower (part of a lot of 5 e-waste machines that also included a working ThinkPad T420) only set me back $20 (for the lot). The CPU got upgraded from an i5 3450 to an i7 3770 for $54 (taxes+shipping included), and the Asus DirectCU II 660Ti was a thrift score for $1.99, with a dumpster-laptop's 240GB SSD and a free EVGA 430W PSU to replace the stock 250W unit. I don't think $76 spent could stretch much further, I just wish I could get newer cards to run like you did for this Dell.
