Upgrading the Pioneer Challenger Decks

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This year's Pioneer Challenger Decks are great! Jamin & Thoralf give you a 101-guide on how to upgrade them and where to start.
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@CardmarketMagic Год назад

Find the Challenger decks here: www.cardmarket.com/Magic/Products/Preconstructed-Decks/Pioneer-Challenger-Decks-2022-Izzet-Phoenix www.cardmarket.com/Magic/Products/Preconstructed-Decks/Pioneer-Challenger-Decks-2022-Pioneer-Gruul-Stompy www.cardmarket.com/Magic/Products/Preconstructed-Decks/Pioneer-Challenger-Decks-2022-Pioneer-Dimir-Control www.cardmarket.com/Magic/Products/Preconstructed-Decks/Pioneer-Challenger-Decks-2022-Orzhov-Humans

@zurreal8087 Год назад

Seeing Thoralf sit so much closer to the camera than Jamin is always pretty funny. I actually had the pleasure of meeting Thoralf Severin a couple weeks ago at YCS Dortmund. One thing that fans of the channel may not realize is that he’s 179 cm (5’ 10”) tall. It’s just that everyone else in the office is quite unreasonably large.

@huckthatdish Год назад

Holy shit, are they giants?

@Chaylubb Год назад

Lol having only seen one picture of him and the videos on this channel I feel like there's no way he's 5' 10" unless every other person on this channel is like 6'6"

@kazen16 Год назад

Wow 😳

@ChilliCheesus Год назад

No way! Now I also wanna meet Thoralf in Reallife. I always thought he is way smaller than me 😂

@lorisbach9905 Год назад

Sorry, but googling Thoralf, it looks just wrong. In all the picture, he is more or less a head smaller than everyone else. He is at most 160cm.

@chaeritea Год назад

It's honestly insulting that the izzet phoenix deck doesn't have 4 phoenixes in it. Come on WOTC I shouldn't have to buy two precons just to have a playset of the namesake card. Stop acting like your arbitrarily rare cardboard is expensive for you to print.

@DraconicWF Год назад

The two phoenixes was the same for the original standard precon, so at least it’s nothing new.

@williamw8590 Год назад

shouldve had 4 phoenix and they all should've had at LEAST 2 shocks and one or 2 fastlands

@returningwhisper Год назад

Completely agree.

@DonRaynor Год назад

@@williamw8590 you're right, if players are Wizards actual customers. But we're not. The main customer of Lizards of the Coast is card market speculators. They buy set and collectors boxes in way excess to those who play the cards.

@benzpinto Год назад

no wotc doesn’t acknowledge or care about the secondary market!! eat my foot

@CanadianPianoMan Год назад

Unsure when this was recorded, but the Gruul Stompy list does have a lot of the core cards that make up the Gruul Vehicles deck that has been putting up decent results since Regional Championship weekend. Skysovereign, Esika's Chariot, Stormseeker, and Akroan War alongside Embercleave and some creature lands like you mentioned are most of what you need to round out the deck.

@Griever49 Год назад

yeah, most of the base of the deck is there, pretty much you just have to change the big threats for others, I would personally keep the couple questing beasts tho, those are always good

@gareth4009 Год назад

On top if this, the challenger decks were made before RG Atarka took off so it’s not really built around that sort of suite either.

@aaronw1026 Год назад

CardMarket is one of the best channels for competitive mtg content these days. Keep up the good work!

@eatmoretidepods2499 Год назад

Please keep up all the pioneer content, deck upgrades, gameplay, and analysis! Loving the content

@hickersonb123 Год назад

Love the content and the channel. I am from US. I can say one of the best channels for pioneer as well as other formats. Love the live card play. There aren’t a whole lot of channels out there doing that these days. Keep up the great content guys. 👊

@Lemon_Sage9999 Год назад

Every day, I learn something new about Questing Beast. Today, apparently, it's legendary 🤣

@Flip4Crypt Год назад

Just found your channel recently and have been watching tons of your content Thank you for all of the stuff you put out! I literally bought the Phoenix deck and was very excited to try it and was sad that I had to purchase 2 more phoenixes let alone actually add upgrades

@davidthomas1791 Год назад

Thanks you guys really help a new player who is really growing to love love love this game

@oldmanmucsi527 Год назад

I would love to see different tiers of upgrades for the decks. Then gameplay with the new upgrades.

@TheWaffletron9000 Год назад

Thanks for the tips! Definitely been eyeing that phoenix precon!

@newworldsound Год назад

I got lost in Thoralf’s eyes at 0:18

@mc4ndr3 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for posting entertaining videos! Across all of the sets, which 60 card premade decks are the most effective, for sealed play?

@2007Shockwave Год назад

My thoughts on upgrading the Dimir Control: When I saw the decklist I had a different direction I was thinking of taking the deck. Play off of the Shark Typhoon (and pick up another copy or two) as the possible wincon and toss in cards that can synergize with the graveyard aspect of the deck like Tolarian Terror (which can work well with Typhoon as well). This change may go in a more midrange direction but doesn't clash with the suggestions here. The only question is what to cut.

@nadinefarber3464 Год назад

Great Video, helped me so much! Thank you! One Question: How many Hopeful Initiatives, Adeline and Extraction Specialist should i put in the Human Deck? :)

@Y0kAiS Год назад

I like control so I’m probably going dimir. 😮

@PJB-bh8bn 9 месяцев назад

Need a couple great henges in gruul stompy if you have the means too

@deevad8119 Год назад

Guys. Love the content for sure. Keep it up. PS : lower the music please it' hard to concentrate on what you are saying.

@RyanDeLaTorre Год назад

Do you have recommendations of which deck pair would work best as duel decks? (The video from last year went through how well the different precon decks were matched against each other.)

@archma9e_879 Год назад

Didn't Toffel mean Disallow as an alternative for a 3 mana counterspell in Dimir control ( he talks about countering a trigger)

@Zeecarver Год назад

we got shouted out!!

@robindubois6664 Год назад

9:31 why the music going absolutely ham?

@ha7e777 Год назад

Oh I think the best way to upgrade gruul is sell all those Questing Beast, chandras, Glorybringers and go with gruul boats. Skysovereigns and chariots are op

@natebullock6555 Год назад

Questing beasts are the best part of the deck 🔥

@francescognerre2408 Год назад

I am choosing to go down the thing in the ice road because honestly, I only have 3 copies of ledger shredder (3 copies from my 2 prerelease events, very lucky) and they are all very happy in 2 commander decks and my cube, and I do not want to spend money on more copies

@alexandercanazachambi9744 Год назад

specific feedback...... thoralf has such beautiful eyes 🤩

@kheliaal 11 месяцев назад

8:54 I’m sorry, but wouldn’t this be Disallow, as it stops triggered and activated abilities?

@emidex8721 Год назад

the person that did the music selection is based

@tbomb50 Год назад

The gruul deck can also easily pivot into Possibility Storm Combo

@KebbieG Год назад

I play that deck often on my channel. Such a sweet deck

@talamran7499 Год назад

gruul mid/vehicles is actually a real (tier 2) deck so a playset of skysovereign and chariots could the way to upgrade. also I don't what about you but a full playset of a big delve spell might be too much for a deck that doesn't actively fill the graveyard and especially when memory deluge nets more card while also digging deeper, control doesn't need the fast 2-mana effective draw spell because they have the time to spend like you said so a bigger draw spell that is more mana hungry should be better.

@simplyantihype Год назад

@jaundicedmisanthrope7817 Год назад

Nice content as always 👌 if you wanna make some popular casual content, how about a few rounds of gartic phone with the whole squad?

@ElGrandeFatso Год назад

You guys forgot to set "Lose all your friends" as a condition for control players.

@Chaoslorden Год назад

Wasn't there a deck with goldspan dragon in it too?

@NateBullock-ow6on 7 месяцев назад

Gruul stompy standard challenger 2021

@Pravinoz Год назад

17:41 Thoralf?

@maltepetersen9064 Год назад

Frage an die Deutschen, wenn man bei Arena Open Geld macht fällt da 30% quellensteuer an . Gibt es eine Möglichkeit einen Teil wieder zurück zu bekommen ?

@CardmarketMagic Год назад

Ja, es werden dir 30% abgezogen. Die kannst du komplett durch eine USA Steuererklärung (+itin) wegen des double tax treaty wiederbekommen. -T

@maltepetersen9064 Год назад

@@CardmarketMagic vielen Dank ! Da setze ich mich direkt mal dran .