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URALIC: MEADOW MARI & HILL MARI 

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@SarimFaruque
@SarimFaruque 4 месяца назад
i like the pastel colors utilized here
@autumnphillips151
@autumnphillips151 4 месяца назад
The connection to Finnish is so strong that I actually remembered the Finnish numbers yksi, kaksi, kolme, and nelja (only thing I missed was the dieresis on neljä) while watching this video, even though I’ve never studied Finnish and only encountered those numbers in a much older video on this channel and, quite frankly, my memory is usually terrible.
@EniisiLisika
@EniisiLisika 4 месяца назад
I am able to speak Finnish quite well but I do not spot any similarities other than the numbers, perhaps only "tylžo" is similar to the Finnish "tulla" ("to come")
@jokemon9547
@jokemon9547 4 месяца назад
​@@EniisiLisika"tyjyn/ten" is related to "sinä/sinun". "Mylanna/memnam" and "mämnän/mälännä" to "me/meidän".
@Davlavi
@Davlavi 3 месяца назад
Great deep dive thanks.
@forgottenmusic1
@forgottenmusic1 4 месяца назад
Is this the standard version of Latinization? Just like when Russian is latinized for English, it's confusing that Y marks both a consonant (like English Y=German J), and a vowel (like Russian ы, similar to Polish Y).
@brian0902
@brian0902 4 месяца назад
Ya it has as both mari language use a form of Cyrillic that has been heavily modified for their languages
@dragskcinnay3184
@dragskcinnay3184 4 месяца назад
I'm not sure there really is a standard latinisation...
@scurly0792
@scurly0792 4 месяца назад
Very interesting that the number for 10 is still related to Proto-Uralic luka while in Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian the number 10 was displaced
@user-ry2nq7ng5e
@user-ry2nq7ng5e 4 месяца назад
"logi" is the Northern Sami for ten, I think it is cognate with Mari "lu".
@scurly0792
@scurly0792 4 месяца назад
@@user-ry2nq7ng5e Oh you're right, I was misremembering Sami
@scurly0792
@scurly0792 4 месяца назад
luka -> lokē -> logi
@juha-lassitast4628
@juha-lassitast4628 4 месяца назад
@@user-ry2nq7ng5e "lu" is related to Finnish "luku" that means "number"
@user-ry2nq7ng5e
@user-ry2nq7ng5e 4 месяца назад
@@juha-lassitast4628 Ah, so it is not cognate with Northern Sami logi?
@vicooo1498
@vicooo1498 4 месяца назад
Please Andy, South saami and Nganasan next! Westernmost and easternmost uralic langauges!
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 4 месяца назад
Both sound extremely Russian as a result of Imperial & Soviet Russification, but I can certainly tell their Uralicness from the structure of their words and some of their pronunciation! Very interesting stuff! 👌🏼
@SB-fw3yr
@SB-fw3yr 4 месяца назад
All of Africa knows French or English or some other European language! And? All of Latin America speaks Portuguese or Spanish! And? All of North America speaks English! And ? Australia too!
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 4 месяца назад
@@SB-fw3yr That makes Russia no better than other colonial nations who impose themselves on the local population; playing the whataboutism game doesn't help your case.
@polishhussarmapping258
@polishhussarmapping258 4 месяца назад
​@@SB-fw3yrThe fact that other empires also carried out messed up policies doesn't make Russia's policies less messed up.
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 4 месяца назад
@@polishhussarmapping258 EXACTLY! It's simply projection of their own oppression and nature.
@SB-fw3yr
@SB-fw3yr 4 месяца назад
​@@polishhussarmapping258The Poles always wanted to be an empire! But oops, Russia divided Poland! 🤣🤣🤣
@Yohann_Rechter_De-Farge
@Yohann_Rechter_De-Farge 4 месяца назад
Kiitos 👍🏻
@kamrankhan-lj1ng
@kamrankhan-lj1ng 4 месяца назад
The accent is Tartaric (Mongolic and Turkic) may be due to the presence of vowelic harmony.
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 4 месяца назад
May the Mari people thrive under their Russian sovereign and that both may be protected as the Russian Federation has its eyes on new recruits, which includes those in their non-Russian & minority regions and local Republics.
@polishhussarmapping258
@polishhussarmapping258 4 месяца назад
Free Idel-Ural including Mari El
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 4 месяца назад
@@polishhussarmapping258 Idel-Ural let's goooooo!!! Intermarium perhaps?
@МихаилБородулин-с5м
@МихаилБородулин-с5м 4 месяца назад
​@@polishhussarmapping258мечтать ты конечно можешь, а что-то сделать для осуществления своей мечты-нет😆
@SajtosNokedli
@SajtosNokedli 4 месяца назад
It could improve your channel if you could analyze the sentences word by word with small letters if the knowledge is available for the given language.
@KingsleyAmuzu
@KingsleyAmuzu 4 месяца назад
Could you make Taiwanese Chinese and Japanese?
@joagalo
@joagalo 4 месяца назад
Meadow Mari phonetics seem very influenced by Russian.
@michaelzieniewicz1107
@michaelzieniewicz1107 4 месяца назад
Or the other way around.
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 4 месяца назад
@@michaelzieniewicz1107 Depends
@joagalo
@joagalo 4 месяца назад
@@michaelzieniewicz1107 Very unlikely. Russian "closed" phonology resembles the ones of several early Indo-European branches (and some reconstructions of pIE uses an akin phonological system), while Finnic languages have commonly more "open" phonetics.
@michaelzieniewicz1107
@michaelzieniewicz1107 4 месяца назад
@@joagalo Can you give an example? I don't know what "closed" vs "open" phonology means.
@michaelzieniewicz1107
@michaelzieniewicz1107 4 месяца назад
@@SirBoggins what
@MehmedYilmaz-kv1ex
@MehmedYilmaz-kv1ex 4 месяца назад
Can you do Bulgarian and Japanese?
@joseg.solano1891
@joseg.solano1891 4 месяца назад
Komi-Yazva, please
@kanassubigikrum2717
@kanassubigikrum2717 4 месяца назад
Bulgarian & Japanese?
@KingsleyAmuzu
@KingsleyAmuzu 4 месяца назад
Are these dialects or separate languages?
@vicooo1498
@vicooo1498 4 месяца назад
separate languages
@SajtosNokedli
@SajtosNokedli 4 месяца назад
tldr Dialects. "The Mari language today has three standard forms: Hill Mari, Northwestern Mari, and Meadow Mari. The latter is predominant and spans the continuum Meadow Mari to Eastern Mari from the Republic into the Ural dialects of Bashkortostan, Sverdlovsk Oblast and Udmurtia), whereas the former, Hill Mari, shares a stronger affiliation with the Northwestern dialect (spoken in the Nizhny Novgorod Oblast and parts of the Kirov Oblast). "
@skyjacker70rus
@skyjacker70rus 4 месяца назад
Произносит слова носитель языка?
@pospehpos
@pospehpos 4 месяца назад
Похоже на то. А что? Слишком по-русски выговаривает?
@thracianwarrior1990
@thracianwarrior1990 4 месяца назад
Make Bulgarian and Japanese.
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