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Urbanism In North America: Sadly, F Tier Is Insufficiently Bad 

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Why merely rank the urbanism of North American cities when you can organize them into arbitrarily stratified tiers? Yeah, that's what I did -- so prepare for the worst!
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@CityNerd
@CityNerd Год назад
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@Siansonea
@Siansonea Год назад
You forgot to pin this comment. Get that money! 🥳🥂
@michalandrejmolnar3715
@michalandrejmolnar3715 Год назад
How would New Orleans and Pittsburgh fare?
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Год назад
As a lifelong Chicago resident I totally agree with agree with your placement. There's too much car centric, suburban style development in the city for it to be any higher. and the things that make Chicago great like the public transit and parks are very underfunded and undervalued by the local government so that's great.
@suaveclt
@suaveclt Год назад
Charlotte is CLT not CHA =/
@truktube22
@truktube22 Год назад
Detroit's so bad you have it in there twice! The Denver picture was actually Detroit. Great list! Love your channel
@TupyWbie
@TupyWbie Год назад
Lumping the Sunbelt into its own tier below "F" was spot on.
@rashidkhwaja959
@rashidkhwaja959 Год назад
Letting Atlanta be slightly better in F tier also feels spot on
@F4URGranted
@F4URGranted Год назад
@@rashidkhwaja959 agreed. I was a little confused about Charlotte being tossed in with the other sun belt cities because it really wants to be Atlanta and feels like it. But that ranking is sensible for sure
@CyanideCarrot
@CyanideCarrot Год назад
I had to pause the video for a whole minute after that one to breathe 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Год назад
That actually made me laugh out loud
@Novusod
@Novusod Год назад
In gaming nomenclature: Sun belt cities are specced into an automobile build that is weak against traffic and not competitive with bus and train builds used by other cities on the server.
@MoustafaHabra18
@MoustafaHabra18 Год назад
Now that you've surpassed stadium capacity in subscriber count, you should start working from small cities upwards as a metric.
@theoseubert9688
@theoseubert9688 Год назад
Haha yes awesome idea!
@whitneywujkoayala8613
@whitneywujkoayala8613 Год назад
+
@MarioFanGamer659
@MarioFanGamer659 Год назад
That's a good idea, actually, given the theme of this channel.
@blondiebear42
@blondiebear42 Год назад
Or cars per day for a highway interchange
@kimberleemodel7182
@kimberleemodel7182 Год назад
Gotta say, I'm really missing the sub count visits.
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler Год назад
As a Mexico City native I’ve always appreciated your analysis including us. Sometimes you feel disheartened at the direction the city is going (the absolute disaster the airport situation has become, the recent incidents on the subway network), but then you remember that there are things done right, like the Cablebus and the ongoing restoration of long forgotten sections of Chapultepec Park. It’s not all black or white.
@harry12
@harry12 Год назад
just took 2 mexibus from aifa to ciudad azteca to take the b line... tbh if I don't have too much luggage it's not as bad as people say. when suburbano is completed the situation would be much better.
@jasontempest4233
@jasontempest4233 Год назад
As an Australian I really fell in love with CDMX and will sing it's praises. CDMX is just amazing! The culture, walkability, transport, food, nightlife, history, museums, parks, art, colour and friendly people who really love foreigners and are proud of their city. In my opinion CDMX should rank much higher on global rankings and anyone out there who believes the American propaganda should visit Mexico and CDMX for yourselves and change your mind on Mexico. With the new Airport I'd love to see direct Mexico City to Australia flights. Australian's would love the Mexican culture and I think the Mexican Tourism Authorities should target Australia and NZ more. I say NO to direct Australia LA and YES (SI) to Australia - Mexico direct.
@trapmuzik6708
@trapmuzik6708 Год назад
MC is the best urbanist city in NA most American cities solution is to keep widening hwys untill its 12 lanes gridlocked
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler Год назад
@@harry12 I'm actually of the opinion that the most realistic way to fix the situation right now is to expand AIFA with the other terminal + the satellite and finish all ground connections. This should enable the city airport to be finally closed and put out of its misery.
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler
@EstoNoEsUnSpoiler Год назад
@@jasontempest4233 nice words, tks. I've been to Australia and the trip was gruelling from Mexico City. I didn't have a US visa at the time and needed to take a flight via Vancouver AND Tokyo to arrive to Sydney. A direct flight from Mexico to Australia would be a dream and I really think it would have a good demand.
@IONATVS
@IONATVS Год назад
S comes from the Japanese grading system, which uses the same A, B, C, D, and F as the US, but adds an "S" for *impressively* good work beyond what the teacher expects from the assignment and is thus rarely given. It appeared in a lot of games with scoring systems that rate your performance in a given level, and was kinda "sold" to the US market (so they wouldn't have to adjust the rating system in localization) as a "secret" rating that wouldn't be mentioned in the manual but if you're good enough at the game you just might discover and tell all your friends about.
@Patrick61804
@Patrick61804 Год назад
That’s really interesting actually
@Shadoefeenicks
@Shadoefeenicks Год назад
Today I learned
@synthdriver8817
@synthdriver8817 11 месяцев назад
Ace Combat and Naval Ops Warship Gunner are both Japanese games and have that same rating system. Very Cool.
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744 11 месяцев назад
First time I saw S tier was in the WCW wrestling games made by Aki for N64. I always thought it was Super tier, lol
@ct235
@ct235 11 месяцев назад
Yeah no. This is complete BS. S is only a thing in video games. Most Japanese schools don't even use the alphabet grading system.
@TheStrangeBloke
@TheStrangeBloke Год назад
"S class" means "special class" and it comes from japanese media, the idea being that A is doing everything right, but S is uniquely amazing. The difference between getting a high score and the top score, if you will.
@mogreen19
@mogreen19 Год назад
The S also means "spezial/special" or "super" with the Mercedes Benz S-Class since 1949.
@clopec
@clopec Год назад
Mercedes S-Class = Sonderklasse
@_SpamMe
@_SpamMe Год назад
It actually also appears in school systems, among them the Indian and (unsurprisingly) the Japanese one (AA and the like also come from that). Which is of course where Japanese games got it from. Which is where tier lists got it from. Which is where it's now creeping into urbanism. So if some city planner one day talks about S-tier bike infrastructure we know whose fault it is ...
@harizotoh7
@harizotoh7 Год назад
Yes, it's a tier above A and it comes from Japanese culture which was then popularized through Japanese video games. As an example, in Devil May Cry, S tier is the highest rank for both combos and a score for a level. However, it is not exclusive to video games, just the way you are most likely to experience this.
@Novusod
@Novusod Год назад
There is also a triple SSS ranking in gaming. Examples of SSS cities: London, Paris, Tokyo, and Hong Kong.
@alexconrad2904
@alexconrad2904 Год назад
If the number of Cheesecake Factories per capita is not a part of the decisionmaking, we riot.
@Trainsandstuffandstuff
@Trainsandstuffandstuff Год назад
I like Cheesecake Factory. Always makes me a little sad that people use it as a go to for restaurants to make fun of, lol
@rosskgilmour
@rosskgilmour Год назад
Canadian cities in shambles
@blarneystone38
@blarneystone38 Год назад
just invert the tiers and there's your answer
@BoBandits
@BoBandits Год назад
@@lematindesmagiciens8764 i have 2 chocolate shops on my strip. And no cheesecakeFactory in my region
@pruwyben
@pruwyben Год назад
I think you mean "fine dining establishments"
@Aabil11
@Aabil11 11 месяцев назад
I'm surprised Montréal isn't higher on this list. As a native of NYC I was surprised at how clean their metro was. Also they have the RÉSO, a series of underground interconnected tunnels which make the city navigable in the winter time
@deanchapman1824
@deanchapman1824 11 месяцев назад
I agree. I've been to Montreal and my car sat in the parking garage of the hotel.
@WilliamAndrea
@WilliamAndrea 10 месяцев назад
I'm not familiar with the data sources, but I bet they include the whole metropolitan area, or even just the whole of Montreal Island, which drags us down. The West Island, Laval, and South Shore are pretty car-centric, and even east Montreal is not super walkable (edit: also Lasalle and VSL). If it were only downtown and environs, we'd be S-tier, no question. Most of my friends don't own cars. Housing is cheap here BTW.
@thewsen
@thewsen 10 месяцев назад
​@@WilliamAndreathis x100. Montrealer all my life. If you live within 15 mins walk of a metro station and most of the places you go to are within 15 mins of a metro station life is amazing. Try visiting family at the far end of RDP or Laval and have fun spending 2+ hours walking/taking the metro/ making multiple bus transfers for what would otherwise be a 30-60 min drive depending on traffic.
@hejiranyc
@hejiranyc 10 месяцев назад
Montreal should have ranked higher just by virtue of having that huge arts/entertainment district in the middle of the city.
@celeluwhen
@celeluwhen 10 месяцев назад
I recently moved to Montreal, and it's seriously impressive. I wouldn't even think about owning a car, the neighbourhood (Le Plateau) has hundreds of restaurants, shops, entertainment, schools, everything you could wish for, at a walkable distance, and there's greenery and parks of all sizes everywhere. Public transportation is accessible, but you barely need it because everything is a lovely walk away. It is as good as some of the best European neighbourhoods in some regards. But yes, the airport accessibility and the situation in more peripheral neighbourhoods probably drags the score down significantly.
@brittanywhiteley9303
@brittanywhiteley9303 Год назад
As a Philadelphian I'm honestly more offended at being referred to as "East Coast Chicago" than Philly's placement on the Tier List :P
@johnnichols371
@johnnichols371 Год назад
I’m mostly bothered by being placed on the same level as Seatle and below DC. Both of those cities have been harder to navigate without a car in my experience
@johnvalor6198
@johnvalor6198 11 месяцев назад
If it makes you feel any better, as a Chicagoan, I felt the same way for the inverse reason ;)
@deanchapman1824
@deanchapman1824 11 месяцев назад
Both Philly and Chicago should be at least B tier, if not A.
@markhouse256
@markhouse256 10 месяцев назад
Same here! It’s so dismissive
@ffrostyyy
@ffrostyyy 10 месяцев назад
i mean, both of them are highly segregated cities with a distinctive local beef sandwich, a diverse population, and are comparatively more affordable than most cities of a similar size within the usa. if i didn’t live in chicago, my second option would be philly. great place. also the public transit here has gone significantly down the shitter post-covid and the city itself is an entirely different place once you go south of sox 35th. a city can’t be considered highly urban and walkable if you need a car to reliably get around the biggest side of it. which is, ofc, another symptom of how highly segregated the city is. only worse one on that metric is detroit
@dwaynerichardson5380
@dwaynerichardson5380 Год назад
As a lifelong New Yorker, you're making me cry. As a retired transit worker, I'm forced to move out of town due to rents being so frigging high. If I had my way, I'd stay till I die and have my remains spread at Yankee Stadium.
@johnottr
@johnottr Год назад
Fellow NYer here, I wouldn't leave NYC no matter how high the rents get, it is just the greatest life.
@trapmuzik6708
@trapmuzik6708 Год назад
Trust me u would prefer your NYC salary over an lower cost of living area salary
@spungebub7963
@spungebub7963 Год назад
@@trapmuzik6708 Unfortunately they are retired so no more NYC salary
@johnottr
@johnottr Год назад
@@trapmuzik6708 You better believe it, when you take your family to Disney or anywhere for that matter, its the same price no matter where you live in the country. So making six figures plus comes in mighty handily.
@FCBarcelonaXMI
@FCBarcelonaXMI Год назад
it's sad that the people who helped build NYC into the city it is today are being forced out
@bonecanoe86
@bonecanoe86 Год назад
It started as a tier list but turned into a tear list.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd Год назад
Now I'm annoyed I didn't come up with that
@Adelphos12
@Adelphos12 10 месяцев назад
As an Atlanta tourist in San Francisco, I was blown away by the transit options all around me. Tons of bikes (and dedicated bike lanes), robust bus and trolley system, a metro, and plenty of walking space. Atlanta has such a young and diverse population, I wish we could make the changes we want to see faster.
@TheOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@TheOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately the connectivity in SF is still poor for residents imo. The trolleys and metro are only available in tiny part of SF. The buses don't have a priority lane in most parts of the city and get stuck in traffic. The bike lanes are also only available in a tiny portion of the city. The rest is scary to travel on bike.
@pbriffy
@pbriffy 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, there’s a lot of service in SF, but reliability is really poor outside of BART, and BART doesn’t go to most of the city. The political situation is also extremely polarized around the affordability crisis and neighborhood control, which makes it hard to build desperately-needed transit improvements (Geary “BRT” is a great example, sadly…).
@TheSyntheticSnake
@TheSyntheticSnake Год назад
I am genuinely astonished you have Vancouver above Montréal
@John-uk3wz
@John-uk3wz Год назад
As a Vancouverite, thank you for putting our city in it’s proper place. Vancouver’s urbanism is WAY over-hyped. People look at downtown, where a studio apartment can easily run you $2.5-3k a month, and think that Vancouver is some kind of walking/biking paradise. Most who live down there are all so rich that they have cars too, and they use them to go anywhere outside of downtown. Downtown even has a handful of car-af streets that are essentially mini-highways, funnelling cars in and out. Just one look at the sad excuses for density around the majority of skytrain stations is all you need to see. Nanaimo station, a fifteen minute ride from the heart of downtown, is almost entirely surrounded by single family houses with lawns. Pathetic.
@ericquest1802
@ericquest1802 Год назад
As a Vancouverite as well, totally agree. For our size we definitely punch above our weight class, but at the same time we have some serious work to do to go up to A or S, particularly outside of downtown, which in turn would improve affordability. B tier is a good take.
@VictorSoares9
@VictorSoares9 Год назад
I in Surrey, and we’re getting some good density around KG, tho prices are not reasonable. $2000 for a 2Bd1Bath is crazy
@Stimlake
@Stimlake Год назад
It's easy to overhype it when most other cities in BC are absolutely awful. Looking at you, Kelowna.
@dreimer2112
@dreimer2112 Год назад
I'd argue that the bike network outside of downtown/False Creek/Broadway corridor is better than B-tier, but there are definitely large swathes of the city proper that are still low-density suburbs with all the degraded walkability that comes along with it. And the lack of density at all the East Van Skytrain stations after almost forty years is criminal. If all those areas had moderately densified we would not be stuck in this 40-story-highrise-or-bust malaise we're in now.
@hurlei
@hurlei Год назад
There are almost enough terrible land uses directly adjacent to sky train stations to make a top 10 list. I'm thinking things like car dealerships, gas stations, surface parking lots, and auto repair shops.
@fookdatchit
@fookdatchit Год назад
Would love to see something similar for Western Europe. If a subway train don't come every 45 seconds, or a bus don't come every 6 minutes, then it might come in at the F tier.
@m1nekji165
@m1nekji165 Год назад
In Western Europe there would be a special bottom tier - British Isles (outside of London maybe)
@nataliella97
@nataliella97 Год назад
I'm thirsting for a callout video for whatever the columbus ohio equivalents are for europe as a whole. you might be surprised because if the people on the other side of the iron curtain knew anything, it was how to build public transport!
@o66722
@o66722 Год назад
​@@m1nekji165 and Ireland
@asdfghyter
@asdfghyter Год назад
we all know what s-tier for trains is
@Bjerrk
@Bjerrk Год назад
​@@asdfghyter and it begins with S?
@NoName-ip9sl
@NoName-ip9sl Год назад
It would be nice if you could do a video about Montreal, its been getting lots of new bike lanes in the last few years and with the REM coming its transit system will greatly improve. Also, imo it has along with Quebec city the biggest european feel in north america.
@kiosk5595
@kiosk5595 Год назад
I just visited from Seattle and honestly, as much as I love my home, I don’t see how it’s on par with MTL. The transit was just heaven, and it’s not as hilly, which makes it easier to walk and bike. It felt like every neighborhood I went to seemed feasible to live car free, which is the case for many, but far from all of Seattle’s neighborhoods
@partiellementecreme
@partiellementecreme Год назад
@@kiosk5595 the Montreal metro fortunately does cover a lot of inner-city neighbourhoods, but when you get away from the metro, there’s a problem on account of the buses being so infrequent. Literally half-hour headways a lot of the time, which defeats the purpose. But none of those neighbourhoods are touristy.
@acchaladka
@acchaladka Год назад
Thank you for this and I agree, Montréal is the story none of these channels seem to really get yet. I assume he has data from about 2018 or something. We're getting 75 new kilometers of protected cycling lanes this year alone for example.
@cookiedawg6977
@cookiedawg6977 Год назад
I cannot believe Montreal was ranked so low here. I guess he’s never been
@luwbst
@luwbst Год назад
@@kiosk5595 Also a native Seattleite who visited Montreal for the first time last year, and I'm with you. I expected Seattle to be placed right where it was, but from what I experienced of Montreal it was far better than anywhere on the continent except NYC and CDMX by my urbanism standards. A majority of the city that I saw-admittedly, mostly just the city center-felt like a mix of Brooklyn and Paris. I suppose the relatively low placement is because of its transit and biking infrastructure, which, while seemingly at least on par with Seattle's, don't hold up to its walkability and density. The metro is nice, but there were several times when it wouldn't have been an option for someone who couldn't walk a mile to hop a train. The buses are decent, but probably worse than Seattle's network. And as with transit, I suspect the walkability goes down when you get outside of the center.
@shayne-1880
@shayne-1880 Год назад
Montréal is really a weird mixture of amazing world-class density with increasingly-thorough metro, light rail, and cycling networks, and then sprawling suburbs and exurbs reached only by a massive expressway below a big stroad. Like the urbanism in the Downtown, Le Plateau, Mile End, the Vieux-Port, and Westmount is totally different from the sprawling suburbia of Hampstead, Côte Saint-Luc, Ahuntsic, and Nouvelle-Bordeaux
@partiellementecreme
@partiellementecreme Год назад
All NA cities are like this; if they have a good part, it’s just the core, and it’s surrounded by stroad hell.
@katiem.3109
@katiem.3109 Год назад
@@partiellementecreme Or you could live in a city that has no 'good part' and where even the urban core is stroad hell, like Honolulu where I live now (and apparently a lot of other sunbelt cities).
@partiellementecreme
@partiellementecreme Год назад
@@katiem.3109 you live in paradise!
@armainlabeeb7114
@armainlabeeb7114 Год назад
​@@partiellementecreme But the thing is Montreal does have way more medium density neighbourhoods relative to its size. Its much less sprawling and very walkable and bikeable in like 50% of its metro area. It is way more European but does have stroads and suburbs around like North American cities
@pyrexmaniac
@pyrexmaniac 9 месяцев назад
Montreal's main problem is their laissez-faire attitude about infrastructure maintenance and it's sickening corruption.
@Ben-mv9to
@Ben-mv9to Год назад
S tier comes from Japan. Their highest letter grade is S, and S is used outside of school to mean highest level such as Cars and Ticket quality. The literal translation is 'Saikyo' which is japanese for 'strongest'. I believe it is also used in other Asian countries at least to a certain degree.
@nickmonks9563
@nickmonks9563 Год назад
I always assumed it meant "Superior." Good info.
@augth
@augth Год назад
Thought it was just "super" but I’m not surprised it’s Japanese
@lucagattoni-celli1377
@lucagattoni-celli1377 Год назад
The jokes about the worldwide server and Tokyo and Paris scoring critical hits were funny, thank you for retaining them.
@AdaDenali
@AdaDenali Год назад
Agreed
@leparfumdugrosboss4216
@leparfumdugrosboss4216 Год назад
Born in Paris, live in Tokyo. Definitely, if walkability and not being car centric are the criteria, those are top notch. Funny how Tokyo managed it through actual urban planning and Paris by just being a museum city where you can't add new car infrastructure without running every 100 meters into a piece of cultural heritage 😂
@rebel2809
@rebel2809 Год назад
he was somehow both funny and made me cringe at the same time
@fjuvo
@fjuvo Год назад
Would like another worldwide video or 2- European one and Asian one
@sircalvin
@sircalvin 10 месяцев назад
r/outside might be right up your alley then. borderline terrible jokes about real life being an mmorpg
@g.s.3450
@g.s.3450 Год назад
I enjoy your low-key and dry-humor presentations which are fact-driven. I live in Phoenix and you correctly lumped us into the sun-belt category. Also,. I appreciated your including several Mexican cities. Their efforts over the last two decades are starting to bear fruit!
@davidbarts6144
@davidbarts6144 Год назад
You did clue in on Vancouver’s dirty little secret: almost no freeways in the city proper but plenty of 6-lane arterials. At least the intersection you showed (41st and Knight, not that far from where I live) has frequent (every 10 minutes or better on weekdays) bus service on both streets (both local and express on 41st, in fact). Even Vancouver’s “sprawl” offers more transport choices than standard suburbia does.
@DonaldDucksRevenge
@DonaldDucksRevenge Год назад
I love the calm, dry-witted, even midwestern style you deliver your content in. It's such a pleasure to take in commentary on an easily over-hyped subject matter with a matter-of-fact, but funny tempo. Thank you for that.
@patrickboldea599
@patrickboldea599 Год назад
Pretty sure City Nerd is literally from the PNW and this is very dry PNW style humor. Why do Midwesterners think they invented everything lol.
@DonaldDucksRevenge
@DonaldDucksRevenge Год назад
@@patrickboldea599 Is he? I'm Floridian. He sounds midwestern. Y'all have dry wit up there too do ya?
@brianglas7768
@brianglas7768 Год назад
@@patrickboldea599 Seattle and Minneapolis are very similar. Biggest difference is the weather and terrain. Culturally they are very close.
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957
@@DonaldDucksRevenge he sounds Midwest to me also but I already heard from his other videos where he’s from
@ryanharrington9490
@ryanharrington9490 Год назад
@@patrickboldea599he pnw exports sad music, airplanes, monopolistic tech companies, and Ted bundy. I think that’s about it
@basicdays
@basicdays Год назад
Been living in Chicago for nearly a decade. I love this city, but I think your grade is completely fair. There's so much more we could do here, and I think a lot of folks here are starting to realize that. I think that's part of why the latest mayoral race also had a fair amount of discussion about the state of the CTA, amongst other topics. I really hope it gets expanded in my lifetime...
@nickisbord
@nickisbord Год назад
especially post pandemic, the CTA has been kind of rough. I'm sure most Chicagoans have noticed and are wanting improvements to be made.
@BenjiBlabs
@BenjiBlabs Год назад
Agreed. My biggest gripe is that it’s incredibly unsafe to bike in the city.
@sinisterdesign
@sinisterdesign Год назад
Agreed. Chicago is great, but it has the potential to be so much greater. The state of the CTA post-pandemic saddens me.
@nickisbord
@nickisbord Год назад
@@BenjiBlabs i completely agree, I've considered getting a bike many times but i always just end up sticking to walking/ using the CTA. just cant imagine feeling safe biking though most of the city, we need bike lanes split from regular vehicle traffic BAD.
@frojo9
@frojo9 Год назад
I moved back to Chicago from Atlanta last year and I wished I had done it sooner. I think I said I could live in Atl because everyone was saying it's the place to be but compared to Chicago and other way more live-able/walkable it's really not. With that being said, beyond being grateful for being in Chicago now I do see where I would do some improvements. All of these boulevards with medians that are underutilized by the public and no lightrail? CTA needs to get on that. Buses are expensive because they're subject to fluctuating gas prices and put a toll on roadway infrastructure. Lightrails have a larger capital cost but hold more people per driver and run on electricity. Idk why Chicago, like a lot of other American cities INCLUDING New York, cannot grasp that there's a transit middle ground between buses and heavy rail. Slap a dedicated light rail on Western Avenue (since it connects to most if not all the L lines). Ashland. Please.
@chumhandle
@chumhandle Год назад
Loved this video, but I'm shocked that Vancouver was above Montreal, coming from my experience living without a car in both cities!
@Eizengoldt
@Eizengoldt 10 месяцев назад
He probably included data for laval, longueil and brossard 😅 otherwise, very weird choice
@_mazarico_
@_mazarico_ Год назад
As someone who grew up in Dallas, lived in Houston and currently lives in Baltimore, you're spot on. Baltimore is bad thanks to its long-term decline and rampant crime, but it's still better than either of the Texan cities. Absolutely awful places to live in even if you own a vehicle.
@vzhgdo
@vzhgdo Год назад
As a person living currently in Orlando, I have to say that you were very kind with the rating... we deserve a special place at the very bottom of the sunbelt category. I lose all hopes of seeing improvement here, when I see all new construction being more of the same.... well maybe a slightly increase on density, but with the same spacing and zoning, zero walkability, inexistent transportation, less vegetation, and worse affordability
@Dipsoid
@Dipsoid Год назад
Orlando is a mess. I have no hope for this city, with the city doing projects like the Robinson diet to make it safer for pedestrians that doesn't include a bike trail in the Milk District, and the bike trail on the downtown portion of the redesign is unprotected. It absolutely blows. While there are a couple of decent neighborhoods like Colonial Town that have every amenity within walking distance, they're extremely expensive and only are walkable within their own bubble and completely unconnected to other good neighborhoods.
@blade7506
@blade7506 Год назад
nah fr it’s so bad here, only thing here that is remotely walkable is downtown or some of winter park. you have to pay to drive which makes it worse!
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 Год назад
And arguably the state made it worse with its I-4 Ultimate freeway widening project which I'm sure created an even bigger barrier and dumped still more cars downtown.
@hunterkenyon910
@hunterkenyon910 Год назад
@@blade7506 the most toll roads of any county in the US
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster Год назад
@@Dipsoid I'd only ever live in College Park if I had to move back to Orlando. The 2 travel and bike lanes on Edgewater is semi decent, esp compared to the much wider portion of Colonial Drive in Colonial Town. But definitely agree with it being like living on a tiny island in a dense archipelago.
@joshmartin7000
@joshmartin7000 Год назад
This list suffers from an issue you usually control for - while the cutoff for ranked cities was for metro area population, it seems like you used city proper data for density and walk score- this helps some cities with smaller footprints dramatically (boston, DC, San Francisco) and hurts others (Chicago, Philly). There are a certainly plenty of neighborhoods in each of these cities/metro areas where people live car free with ease, but due to the footprint of Chicago and Philly having areas that are more car dependent within city limits it throws the list out of whack - in my opinion.
@matts0717
@matts0717 Год назад
Accurate comment. Even a city like Houston would go way up the tier list if they shrunk the city limits by 50%
@sebastianjoseph2828
@sebastianjoseph2828 Год назад
Fair point. There are some parts of DC proper that aren't too walkable (NW west of Connecticut Ave, SE of the Anacostia) while Silver Spring and Arlington might be better and are part of the metro area. For the most part I agree that DC is one of the best urbanist cities in the US.
@joshmartin7000
@joshmartin7000 Год назад
As a suggestion for a more apples to apples comparison (because I hate when people complain without a solution) I would maybe look into how many contiguous square miles have population density above a certain “urbanist” threshold. Could measure this using zip code level data. Boston would pick up zip codes outside the city (think Somerville/Cambridge) where Chicago would lose some less urban areas within the city limits. Could also set a higher threshold for ultra-density that is necessary to qualify for A or S tier which could furthe distinguish NYC and CDMX
@kylekylekyle505
@kylekylekyle505 Год назад
Yep, Montreal was also hurt by this. Definately deserves A tier.
@misteryA555
@misteryA555 Год назад
Came here to say the same thing, have a + to boost visibility!
@Michael-on3ku
@Michael-on3ku Год назад
I really appreciate your point about how some cities have walkable areas but overall are car reliant. When I lived in Miami, I read a funny article by a New Yorker who visited Miami and was awe struck by the transit, night life, and accessibility. From what I remember, they never left the downtown/Coral Gables area which is walkable and where transit is most efficient. Once you start getting north into Allapattah and west in Kendall, walkability is nonexistent; you *need* a car.
@tomreingold4024
@tomreingold4024 Год назад
I was born in New York City and have lived here more than half of my life. I think I speak for many of us New Yorkers that we simultaneously love our City and hate our City. I'm grateful to be here, but it's not easy, and the irritants never stop. Still grateful, though, and I eagerly give people tours when they visit.
@ccaudi
@ccaudi Год назад
Denver here, and an E rating is well deserved. During the last few decades, Denver became the last great Urban sprawl with a highway system from the 1960s. Single fam houses cover former farmland to the east and south, oil and gas production and cattle to the north. It still advertises itself as the gateway to mountain recreation. Its gateways are bumper to bumper, rife with breakdowns and accidents. Transportation frustration abound. And yet it's still very expensive to live here, not to mention it made American Lung Association's top 25 most polluted cities (#6 Ozone; #18 Short Term Particulates).
@keepstake
@keepstake Год назад
Also from Denver, also agree our sprawl is madness and transit needs a ton of work here. But more than that, I'm wondering which city is used for the image because the Platte River is not that wide lolol. (see @5:44)
@neolithictransitrevolution427
In fairness, it's questionable how much farmland should be surrounding Denclver to begin with
@miketimmerman6336
@miketimmerman6336 Год назад
@@keepstake Its Detroit unless Denver also has gained Ford Field and GM headquarters, and part of Canada without me knowing.
@jonathaneby1440
@jonathaneby1440 Год назад
Denver’s gotta build dense housing In capital hill and cheesman
@nickmonks9563
@nickmonks9563 Год назад
@@jonathaneby1440 We do have dense(r) housing in those areas. We just need more throughout the city.
@JoshuaFagan
@JoshuaFagan Год назад
It's just unfortunate that people come to the conclusion that walkable, vibrant cities are automatically more expensive instead of the much more sensible and accurate conclusion that the cities being walkable does a lot to heighten demand. There's nothing innately expensive about a walkable city, as most of the non-Anglophone world demonstrates.
@tristanridley1601
@tristanridley1601 Год назад
We're so desperate for something like that, we'll pay almost anything to live there. Sounds like something we should make more of...
@dreimer2112
@dreimer2112 Год назад
I say the same thing every chance I get! Usually to anti-urbanists who all claim to be free-market supporters, yet refuse to consider what property values say about supply-demand curves!
@Jc2469.
@Jc2469. Год назад
Loved all the TierZoo callbacks and references! Spot on. Also as a sunbelt resident, having to drive 35 miles one way to see some of my friends/coworkers and thinking that's normal is ludicrous. Can't wait for more urbanism in the near future
@minnybiker4505
@minnybiker4505 Год назад
I just love that our "oh fer cute" Twin Cities consistently ranks above it's outside awareness. No one really cares, except for current residents and people who are terrified to move here with a significant other or for a job, but then end up pleasantly surprised how great it is here. Thankfully our weather reputation keeps our size reasonable. A few more train lines would make it extra lovely... But I'll take it as is for now. Thanks for your always entertaining videos!
@darkwing3713
@darkwing3713 Год назад
You're so lucky. The last time I lived in Denver it had a million fewer people.
@itsnicholas1526
@itsnicholas1526 Год назад
I moved from the cities to Chicago in the last year and the transit upgrade is just amazing, and agree with where he placed both on the list. Hard agree on the cities needing a few more train lines and it'd be perfect for its size, and promote growth that I imagine the cities will see in my lifetime due to climate etc
@HessianHunter
@HessianHunter Год назад
The Twin Cities' roads are so wide that they could do real-deal BRT if they could get the political will. I'm hopeful that the in-progress semi-rapid buses lead to more. It's scandalous how long it takes to go down Lake street in a bus right now.
@isaacliu896
@isaacliu896 10 месяцев назад
Truly Minnesota nice to be so excited about D tier
@ShanesSquirrelShack
@ShanesSquirrelShack 10 месяцев назад
I’ve been considering the thought about moving to the twin cities in like a year and a half from now. How is it like for newcomer who would probably transfer his delivery driving job and moving into the twin cities? It looks really nice but affordability is my main concern.
@BrentFreyEsq
@BrentFreyEsq Год назад
As a native Chicagoan, I fully agree with its placement. Also lol at "Sideways Chicago" and "East Coast Chicago," hahaha. The CTA and Metra (regional rail) are great, but it's almost entirely focused on trips to/from downtown. It was eye opening when I saw Mexico City's transit map on this channel a while back, all the routes that aren't central business district. Chicago could do with a few "ring" L lines, or really just a badly needed N/S line along Ashland and probably also Cicero (and no, the forever-bridesmaid BRT proposals along those corridors don't count).
@alexdm4868
@alexdm4868 Год назад
Totally agree there should be a Gold line train running down Cicero from Midway to Petersen
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Год назад
Yup I've been living, biking, driving and walking here all my life. There's way too much car centric, suburban style development in the city for it to be any higher (and not just in the neighborhoods far away from downtown which some are almost straight up suburban). Also, the things that make Chicago great like the public transit and parks are very underfunded and undervalued by the local government so that's great.
@Flygon11
@Flygon11 Год назад
North side Chicagoan and totally agree with this. We need the government to care about transit!
@seanwilliams7655
@seanwilliams7655 Год назад
@@alexdm4868 Chicago needs at least on "ring line". I think Cicero might be too far west, but certainly at least to Kedzie on the west side, 87th on the south, Devon on the North, and I guess it could share green/red line tracks on the east. Or, maybe have it go all the way east on 87th, hug the lake to downtown, then share redline tracks to devon.
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 Год назад
Agree. Having lived in various areas of Chicago for 30 out of 60 yrs, I've seen things generally improve in many ways. It gets to be a very complex set of issues as one moves around the different neighborhoods ("the parks" - Rogers Park on the No. to Morgan Park on the south, etc. a unique feature of the city). Many of 'the parks' are quite walk/bikeable with acceptable access to 'the loop' via the CTA or Metra. A big fail over the past 30 yrs is what I call the 'asteroid belt'. These are the myriad suburbs, sub-divisions, and ex-urbs that form a 45mil arc around the city. As with a majority of 'cities' in the US, rampant expansion of un-walkable subdivisions have metastisized into a hell scape of 2->4->6 lane roads that connect to our interstate tollways and freeways. (I've had the good fortune to work with a lot of lovely people who have a 2-3 hr commute into 'the loop' and only live 20 miles away. (Lovely as a child with a diaper filled with tacks). On the flip-side, there's been a tremendous amount of very tall condo/apt. building that are WAY overpriced and will be a nightmare to maintain in the not-so-distant future. All that being said, we have more important issues like a tranny selling light beer. Priorities.
@Mightydoggo
@Mightydoggo Год назад
I don´t know why but I got really obsessed with Urban content lately. The sheer numbers and logistics behind having 300.000 people in the same area as a few hundred share where I live is fascinating.
@Bierman1977
@Bierman1977 Год назад
The first shot of "Denver" is actually Detroit again - Ford Field is pretty visible as the Renaissance Center
@petermilian4455
@petermilian4455 Год назад
Could you do a completely imagined 2030 / 2040 Tier ranking based on city trends and current city plans? Seattle's "work in progress" transit system and Toronto's big transit upgrades in particular seem like enough to bump them up a spot or two. LA might also get a bump for building out their light rail.
@bomaracev
@bomaracev Год назад
Ooo that's a great idea! Please do it!
@herbtarlic892
@herbtarlic892 Год назад
As a lifelong resident of Sideways Chicago, I can tell you that it'll take a lot more that better transit to fix this mess. All our beautiful city parks are encampments of homeless folks. But who can blame them?! We have a Premier (Governor) who starves housing and health care files, funneling our tax $$$ to the 1%.
@amg1591
@amg1591 Год назад
some of the cities dinged for density have upzoned (or been upzoned by their states) as well. would be cool if theres a way to try and project that out
@Shinyarc
@Shinyarc Год назад
I hope seattle can get its shit together. High density and good transit isn’t going to help you grow if your city is dangerous after dark and greedy landlords don’t lower prices no matter the supply.
@JohnSkyLey
@JohnSkyLey Год назад
LA will always be at the bottom
@edchavez6693
@edchavez6693 Год назад
First of all an urbanist bracket must be done for next year’s march madness tm. I also like how sunbelt tier are play-in cities. Thanks for adding Mexico and Canada. These cities should be in MLB so if theyre in LCN (Ligue Cuidad Nerd) then I’m good. Props for the Dreamcast love btw.
@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly
How should they be seeded? Maybe by population?
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now Год назад
I believe Atlanta is moving in the right direction. I just read last week that they are breaking ground on (wait for it) PROTECTED bike lanes from 14th st to Ponce on Piedmont and Juniper. Each of those streets are one way through Midtown, so there will be one way bike lanes in both directions as well as bike lanes going up 10th st. Not much we can do about the sprawl...that's outside of COA jurisdiction.
@danbert8
@danbert8 Год назад
Meanwhile they also just announced a new unnecessary arena in Forsyth county that won't be connected to transit...
@shivtim
@shivtim Год назад
​@danbert87 but that's not the city of Atlanta. The city has zero control over what the suburbs do.
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now Год назад
@@danbert8 I'll also believe that when I see it. I don't think that project will happen as advertised...and, hey...more Liberals moving to Forsyth Co...have to laugh at that prospect.
@trapmuzik6708
@trapmuzik6708 Год назад
​@@scpatl4now home prices forcing liberals to wherever they can afford Atl is not as affordable as it once was ppl moving further n further away
@electric7487
@electric7487 Год назад
Ann Arbor, Michigan are putting in protected bike lanes as well. Super exciting!
@BGTuyau
@BGTuyau 8 месяцев назад
Loved the Chicago-Toronto-Philadelpha comparison. So true. And the switch to button-down shirts is a sartorial step up. I always enjoy the videos, unrivaled for their content and entertaining, if understated, quirky presentation style.
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 Год назад
Really true about SunBelt...as a San Antonio native these places are simply a small urban center around which suburbia exists. The cities are really just anchors for suburban living.
@Droidman1231
@Droidman1231 Год назад
As a former Atlanta resident, I feel your outlook on the future of Atlanta (from an urbanist perspective) is more positive than mine haha. MARTA (transit agency) is a joke, levying taxes and talking a big game but never building anything, scaling down promises, and building things that aren't time competitive with cars in a lot of cases. Complete street projects are half baked, reversed, and/or take forever to happen. For every cool infill development it feels like there's dozens out in the middle of nowhere, advertised as a new suburb.
@stevendelavaux1426
@stevendelavaux1426 Год назад
As a former resident of Atlanta who now resides in Charlotte, I was surprised by Atlanta being higher than Charlotte. Both are admittedly bad on the criteria, but Atlanta is the leader of urban sprawl. Although Charlotte isn't consciously practicing smart growth initiatives, the growth that is happening now is in the city center (e.g., southend). I would say MARTA covers more area than Lynx, but I think this will change over time as the NIMBY people refuse to allow MARTA to expand.
@TheScourge007
@TheScourge007 Год назад
As a current Atlanta resident, I feel your pain, but that heavy rail system does keep Atlanta out of Sunbelt trash tier. Yes we knee capped MARTA from the start by denying it state funds and Cobb/Gwinnett staying out (for mostly racist reasons). Yes MARTA More over promised and has only now even begun to deliver on anything (the bus service is, literally right now, seeing improved frequencies on a number of routes finally). Yes the good developments intown are still coupled with absolute bullshit in the suburbs and highway widening. I am frankly furious at GDOT for deciding to pour so much into widening 285 and spending so much time on the 285/400 interchange. I don't want more Roswell/Alpharetta/Cumming drivers coming downtown there when there's literally a park and ride at North Springs already! But, we've got bones we can build on and we are making progress doing it. F tier is fair but we've got basics in place that with a relatively little effort we probably could bump ourselves up a tier or two. We'd need some bigger overhauls to reach a Chicago-like status. But our heavy rail and the Beltline are two advantages we can lean into over basically every other southern city (noting that neither Washington nor Miami are really "southern" cities in the cultural/design senses of the term).
@dwaynerichardson5380
@dwaynerichardson5380 Год назад
​​@@stevendelavaux1426 You hit the nail on the head. Every time I hear someone from the Atlanta metro area complain about traffic, I ask how they feel about MARTA expansion into Cobb and Gwinnett Counties. If they take an 'over my dead body' stance, I'll laugh, tell them to enjoy your traffic and walk away. And it will only get worse by 2050... 2 million more people to the region.
@oaxtec765
@oaxtec765 Год назад
​@@TheScourge007 you comment is great but the point about Atlanta being better situated made me think of how several midsized southern cities are also pretty well positioned. Memphis, Richmond, Charleston, and New Orleans all have pretty good bones with countless other smaller ones. Even though the road ahead for the south is rough and needs lots of advocacy to get good results out of, their is still a lot of hope. I've traveled to a lot of southern cities and in every city I find aspects and places that are really beautiful and amazing and wich will help bring the south in to the future.
@shivtim
@shivtim Год назад
Atlanta has a legit subway, which automatically puts it above other sunbelt cities. MARTA is the 8th most ridden heavy rail system in the country. And there's great momentum on bicycle infrastructure. For example, 10th and 14th street just got protected bike lanes, more of the Beltline is under construction, and streets like MLK and Cherokee had road diets. BRT is starting construction in Summerhill, and density keeps improving everywhere especially in Midtown.
@15warhol
@15warhol Год назад
Devastated that Pittsburgh didn't make it based on the population criteria, would've loved to see what tier you're placing the Burgh in!
@KT22672
@KT22672 Год назад
Pittsburghs infrastructure is so old even CityNerd would suggest highway expansion Issue with Pitt is there's no highways so people speed like mad on surface streets very unfriendly to pedestrians and cyclists and means the area doesn't grow
@StreetcarHammock
@StreetcarHammock Год назад
Just lowering the population threshold to 2 million would’ve added Pittsburgh, Ohio’s 3 Cs, Austin, Vegas, and several more!
@CDestroyR
@CDestroyR Год назад
Rail from the airport yet? I know you want to, anyway. Furry train, amirite?
@NicksDynasty
@NicksDynasty Год назад
​@@StreetcarHammock I was sad Ohio wasn't included
@katiem.3109
@katiem.3109 Год назад
@@KT22672 Statistically, Pittsburg has one of the lowest rates of pedestrian fatalities per capita among US cities--ranking 95 out of 101 cities in the smart growth america rankings in their Dangerous by Design report on pedestrian fatalities (with 1 being the worst for pedestrian fatalities and 101 being the best).
@Krommandant
@Krommandant Год назад
I request a reevaluation of Montreal to B tier!
@jackpelaez5679
@jackpelaez5679 Год назад
I've been enjoying your videos for quite a while now and appreciate the work you put into them! I would love to see you rank South American cities based on all the criteria of urban development (walkability, transit, and density) as you did with this video. At the very least maybe possibly examine the transit boom Santiago, Chile is experiencing at the moment.
@meng-hsuanlee8543
@meng-hsuanlee8543 Год назад
The Chicago joke is great. As an adopted Chicagoan, no wonder I also have an affinity for sideways Chicago and East Coast Chicago 😂
@scottdawson4705
@scottdawson4705 8 месяцев назад
I laughed out loud at this. I’ve often thought that if you deleted the CN Tower from a picture of Toronto, what you get looks a lot like Chicago.
@JoshKablack
@JoshKablack Год назад
And as a resident of a metro area below your 2.5 million threshold, I would be interested in seeing similar tier lists for small and mid sized metros.
@jamesmcdermott1194
@jamesmcdermott1194 Год назад
Bring it down to 2 million for Cincinnati!
@danieliroh
@danieliroh Год назад
@@jamesmcdermott1194 As a long time bike commuter in Cincinnati, I'd definitely put it in the Sunbelt tier. The city has a lot of promise and I feel like it is being squandered by bad actors. The outgoing mayor was very openly anti bikes as an example. And so far, all Aftab has done is make promises whilst kowtowing to Norfolk Southern. That said, it is encouraging seeing projects like Tri-State Trails CROWN Network getting more support after years of stagnation.
@sammyrice1182
@sammyrice1182 Год назад
Another great video! I would love to see you calculate the value lost (land, development, housing sales, property taxes, sales taxes, whatever) in the parts of cities covered by an urban freeways. More of a case study. Seems like cities like SF are throwing away money when you consider what could be if the freeways were gone.
@2jacked2read
@2jacked2read 11 месяцев назад
lol as a San Antonio resident it definitely belongs below F. There is a zero percent chance I’d live without a car here
@pauljm4159
@pauljm4159 Год назад
I think Vancouver fares relatively well in a lot of your ranking because its city limits are particularly narrow. It would look quite different if you were to include Richmond, North Vancouver, etc. I've lived in both Montreal and Vancouver, and find Montreal much more walkable. It is one of the few cities in North America to have loads of middle-density neighbourhoods built before WWII, like the Plateau, Rosemont, Villeray, Verdun, Saint-Henri, etc. These are all 15-minute neighbourhoods and incredibly walkable. Vancouver's zoning laws are much restrictive, and have a lot of zones single family houses next to sky-rise condos. If you want to drop by on your way back from Europe, I'll be happy to give you a walking tour of Montreal :)
@Interitus1
@Interitus1 Год назад
that's not zoning, that's home owners holding out to get more money. 2 houses downtown got over $150 million (per house) to build two condos on the land they occupied. And the West End has a remarkable amount of middle-density considering the density of Downtown/Coal Harbour/Yaletown
@pauljm4159
@pauljm4159 Год назад
@@Interitus1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cjWs7dqaWfY.html for zoning in Vancouver. Quite a bit of contrast between single family zones and zones for everything else. Also the West End is a relatively small area, the Plateau Mont-Royal is 4 times as big.
@dixonhill1108
@dixonhill1108 Год назад
I think the lack of options in vancouver should cost it some. Vancouver is clearly trapped by geography. In Toronto you get to choose what you want. That's a huge factor that is missing from the list that really denies Toronto it's rightful praise.
@rileynicholson2322
@rileynicholson2322 11 месяцев назад
He uses metro area for many of his rankings, which does include those places.
@rjbiii
@rjbiii Год назад
I live in San Diego and it definitely is F tier. I desperately want to leave but at the same time there's some really good things that keep me here. Btw I think tier lists are a perfect fit for this channel.
@renaes2807
@renaes2807 Год назад
I'm in OC and we likely score closer to Riverside than LA. I love taking Amtrak down to SD because at least you have the trolleys and Coaster/Sprinter to get around.
@rjbiii
@rjbiii Год назад
@@renaes2807 Yeah it does depend quite a lot on where in SD you live. If you happen to live near a trolley line, it's much less car dependent. But there are huge parts of SD that are not walkable at all, and have terrible pubic transit. Also the trolleys tend to be along freeways, which isn't great. At least we're not Riverside I guess lol.
@jojibronner8280
@jojibronner8280 Год назад
Would much rather live in San Diego than LA though... LA is only walk-able if you stick to one neighborhood and that's even debatable. With San Diego you can go to different neighborhoods in 20 minutes without traffic and at least there's the Blue, Green and Orange lines that can get you to the ball game or the border. We just need a train that runs through the neighborhoods surrounding Balboa Park & the airport and it will be a game changer
@DanielSilva-dr8gq
@DanielSilva-dr8gq Год назад
im from San Diego and visiting other cities ruined SD for me haha, cant ever live there again
@bodaciouscowboy
@bodaciouscowboy Год назад
San Diego seems like it should be much better than it is, since it has an ideal climate for walking and biking.
@melopro03
@melopro03 Год назад
Hi, I really liked this video and was really surprised to see Monterrey so high on the list. The truth is that not all the city is very good in terms of transit and walkability but I was glad that you mentioned that there is not enough data to analyze because in the end that would change the position of the city on the list a lot. Anyway, I would like you to make a video about the urbanism in cities of Mexico. I feel that there is a lot to talk about and that many times urban planners focus on cities in the United States and Canada. 🙋‍♀️
@harry12
@harry12 Год назад
yea mty is high, and imo gdl is a bit high as well... the light rail is very limited and the bus system in gdl is a nightmare based on my own experiences unfortunately. much worse than both metro and bus systems in cdmx
@OrlValdez
@OrlValdez Год назад
I agree with you, we must have a car to get around
@ronpulido743
@ronpulido743 Год назад
Great video. Might be an interesting list to also factor in weather (annual precipitation, humidity, temperature, etc).
@zakkabuuz
@zakkabuuz Год назад
I lived in Chicago, Toronto and Montreal and Toronto is considerably worse than the other two in many ways. Torontonians are a bit insecure about it too.
@drewsmith7726
@drewsmith7726 Год назад
I grew up in a place where not having a car was unheard of and unthinkable. Moving to DC was such a great improvement. We still have a long way to go, but the bike network keeps improving. I just wish I could afford to live in the more walkable neighborhoods.
@snailpail4224
@snailpail4224 Год назад
I think DC suffers (still) from lack of investment and political will to change. DDOT continuously caves to a vocal minority when it comes to bike lanes and the mayor refuses to fund vision zero efforts. Despite this, it’s definitely got some amazing infrastructure and a lot of what DDOT and WMATA does is to improve service and capture more riders/bikers/pedestrians. I just dream of the day we get an Anne Hidalgo type to champion urbanism at the mayoral level!
@kennethduckworth7111
@kennethduckworth7111 Год назад
I lived careless in DC from 1984-1992.
@jacobringenwald
@jacobringenwald Год назад
I'm a little surprised Philly and Chicago's transit didn't carry them higher than B
@cyclicmusings2661
@cyclicmusings2661 Год назад
I figured my city of Orlando was going to be at the very bottom and was not disappointed. I've been here nearly 25 years, things have been improving a bit but very slowly. It speaks volumes of how ridiculously car centric this city is when it's been featured in articles how there can be backyard neighbors separated by 7 miles of road. Another example being Sunrail, a ~50 mile long commuter line entirely on existing rails with a somewhat inconvenient schedule, which opened in 2014, was the only "major" mass transit project since Disney World built out its monorail system in the early 70s, and that's not even in Orlando proper.
@evanscott1749
@evanscott1749 10 месяцев назад
Nah Orlando is a good city
@bikinglemur7738
@bikinglemur7738 Год назад
This was a great video, thank you. Surprised to see Chicago as low as it is - I bet what's dragging it down is the gradual decrease in density as you get further out from the city center but are still in Chicago. I bet if you looked at an area comparable in size to San Francisco it'd rank a lot higher
@TheObiareus
@TheObiareus Год назад
For sure, ranking based on municipality simply gives a huge advantage to more decentralized cities like SF. Same thing is the case with Vancouver/Toronto, where Toronto is in general better for urbanism, but is dragged down by the fact that the municipality extends far into suburbia, while Vancouver doesn’t.
@garyyang4961
@garyyang4961 Год назад
The density drop in Chicago is more directional than a product of distance (although that certainly plays a part in it as well). You can go 10 miles north of the Loop and still find yourself in areas of moderate / high density, but the South Side and the West Side quickly fall off.
@misteryA555
@misteryA555 Год назад
The same is true for Philly. I'd say a lot of the city is pretty dense, but if you go too far North or West the density gets patchy which brings down it's overall score
@DaveBroTube
@DaveBroTube 11 месяцев назад
@@TheObiareus Indeed. SF, at only about 800K population, gets on the list at all because it's the anchor and namesake of a large metro area. But the amenities that put it in the A tier are available only to some/most of those 800K, not really to the rest of the metro.
@johnvalor6198
@johnvalor6198 11 месяцев назад
I was, as well. I've lived in the city for over a decade without a car. However, on reflection, Chicago is a rather large place, and that means that there are swaths of it that fall into transit deserts. While it would be easy to brush them off by saying most other Chicagoans or tourists have no reason to ever go to those communities in the first place, it remains pretty unfair for those communities.
@toast-cj
@toast-cj Год назад
Yes, more teir lists please! I find it's better than top x lists because the gaps between rankings can be large but teirs have a clear distinction of something being marginally or much better.
@Ellary_Rosewood
@Ellary_Rosewood 11 месяцев назад
I used to live in Puebla, México and was so happy to see it represented in this video! I miss the walkability and the easiness of the transit. Surprised to see it so low on the list. However, for me, the best public transit I've experienced so far was in México City. ❤️🇲🇽
@harry12
@harry12 4 месяца назад
public transit in Puebla isn't great imo. only one line of metrobus and zero train/metro/tram (rip tren turístico). going to angelopolis from almost anywhere of the city is a pain in the ass.
@neegronn
@neegronn Год назад
Monterrey here. Your comment is Spot on regarding how Sparse the Public transport is. New metro developments are on their way, but I fear it will still not be enough, as the buses they connect to will still be stuck in traffic, as they don’t have their own lanes. I was wondering, why you put Puebla so low, as it feels much more walkable than Monterrey, at least at the city center.
@harry12
@harry12 Год назад
Lol outside of Centro Puebla it’s not any better than mty 😅 besides mty has métros at least. Puebla? The only metrobus line brings you to nowhere except maybe capu
@neegronn
@neegronn Год назад
@@harry12 Monterrey does need all those Metro Lines but Puebla doesn’t. You can easily cycle the majority of Puebla no problem. Of course more dedicated bike lanes would be great
@agentzapdos4960
@agentzapdos4960 Год назад
Looking forward to the World Cities version of this.
@johndminer
@johndminer Год назад
Agreed!
@nwsportstilidie
@nwsportstilidie Год назад
I want to see where Singapore lands compared to New York.
@zen1647
@zen1647 Год назад
Yes! Do Asia: East, South, and then South East.
@sm3675
@sm3675 Год назад
That'll be very long
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 Год назад
@@nwsportstilidie Singapore is better then New York on walkability, public transportation and greenery. For biking its not great.
@caseyjewel2279
@caseyjewel2279 Год назад
It's nice that my city DC always makes these walkability lists, but the relatively low density causes massive sprawl extending out into MD and VA. When you say you feel DC has room for more density, that's because the building height limit is not to exceed the Capital--that's why there's no skyscrapers in DC, but Crystal City across the river is full of them. Perhaps you could do a video about how DC's unusually low height limit affects regional planning.
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Год назад
I second (and if possible, third) this! Crystal City is actually a great place to live and deserves way more attention than it gets.
@znail4675
@znail4675 Год назад
You don't need skyscrapers to get enough density, you just need something else then single family housing.
@loljewlol
@loljewlol Год назад
Yeah, a good example is Paris: similar size comparative to Sf yet trice the density. This because of it famous tenements that lines the boulevard. Some neighborhoods in SF like Duboce Triangle have 12k/km² due to duplex, triplex, and small apartment complex.
@jacksonmitchell241
@jacksonmitchell241 11 месяцев назад
He is so right about Denver. We have so much opportunity to be amazing yet squander every chance! No commuter rail linking Fort Collins and Colorado Springs thru denver, no commuter rail to the mountains along I-70, we ripped out our streetcar system and are purchasing back old right of ways to make a half ass light rail system, spend all this money and time on building a transit hub at Union Station but still have the light rail and commuter/ heavy rail 2 blocks away, they use buses on their 16th street walking zone instead of a historic street car or tram which is frankly the biggest insult
@adafrost6276
@adafrost6276 11 месяцев назад
I've lived in 3 of the cities in the "Sun Belt" category (Dallas, San Antonio, and Orlando) and of those 3, San Antonio is by far the worst in terms of Urbanism, no contest. Dallas has light rail, >50% sidewalk coverage, and a mediocre bus system. Orlando has a couple bikeways, somewhat ok food density, and ok sidewalks. San Antonio, on the other hand, has no sidewalks where you would really absolutely need them (I'm looking at you Bandera Rd), the bus system is the worst I've used across the country, and I lived at a few addresses there and not a single one of them had a place to buy groceries within 3 miles nor public transportation or full sidewalks to get there.
@jaspersaba4635
@jaspersaba4635 Год назад
I think this list underrates Montreal, it really is way more consistent on transit access, walkability, density, biking than cities above like SF or boston
@BaronBytes
@BaronBytes Год назад
Montreal is usually underrated by the channel. Probably because a lot of stats for it are primary french sources.
@tristanridley1601
@tristanridley1601 Год назад
I had the same thought, then realized they include the whole area. Laval dragging you down, just like Scarborough, Mississauga, Markham, etc drag us down in Toronto.
@jimpaek
@jimpaek Год назад
My guess it is killed on this list by low density. It really deoends where you draw the line what is and what isn't Mtl. If you live in RDP or PAT for example, your walkability is some order of magnitude worst than Plateau or Mile-End.
@fernbedek6302
@fernbedek6302 Год назад
@@tristanridley1601I think, a lot of the time, it’s not Laval or Markham causing the issues, but Etobicoke or Rivière-des-Prairies being part of Toronto and Montreal’s municipalities that causes the real damage on this channel. For instance, SF’s municipal limits only cover about 800K people of a metro the same size as Toronto’s, while Toronto’s municipal population is 2.8 million. No way was TO matching SF for overall density points.
@leopoldleoleo
@leopoldleoleo Год назад
I feel like it’s probably because a lot of Montreal’s on-island suburbs are considered part of the central city, while cities like SF and Boston export their suburbs.
@sinisterdesign
@sinisterdesign Год назад
Interesting. I know you try to keep these videos below 15 minutes, so an in-depth analysis isn't really in the offing for a tier list like this, but I'd love to hear your take on what Chicago's weaknesses are. Are neighborhoods with poor train access and loads of single family homes dragging the city down? Is the lack of a connected bike grid doing it in? I haven't yet seen an urbanist RU-vidr tackle Chicago's problems. With the incoming Brandon Johnson mayoral administration, there's a lot of potential to improve things, and it would be awesome to get some perspective on what needs prioritizing.
@tristanridley1601
@tristanridley1601 Год назад
One word: Chicagoland.
@ajkandy
@ajkandy Год назад
I’d love to work on one. That said, the guy doing the new StrongTowns videos is Chicago-based, and Stewart Hicks’ channel is Chicago-based if not Chicago-centric.
@sinisterdesign
@sinisterdesign Год назад
@@ajkandy I haven't seen Strong Towns do anything Chicago-specific, but I'd be here for it if they did! I do like Stewart Hicks as well, but I wouldn't call him an urbanist exactly; the architectural design of individual buildings is very different in scope from "how do we zone and plan transit and walkability at the neighborhood and city level."
@matthays9497
@matthays9497 Год назад
Large city limits? That's why even Seattle had slightly better mode splits pre-Covid (fewer SOV commuters).
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Год назад
Yes those things you mentioned are definitely some of our weaknesses. We hardly have a bike grid at all, mostly disconnected bike lanes and paths. There are suburban style neighborhoods in the city that may "drag down" the rest of the city, but the dense areas with public transit are not perfect either. Many of our sidewalks are too thin and just way too much space dedicated to cars. As a lifelong Chicago resident I can say there's way too much car centric, suburban style development in the city for it to be any higher, even in neighborhoods in and around the city center. Our last mayor even called Chicago "a car city." The things that make Chicago great like the public transit and parks are very underfunded and undervalued by the local government.
@paniaguapani
@paniaguapani Год назад
I wasn’t expecting my city (Puebla) to appear in this tier at all. That was a very entretaining curve ball for me, very good video!!!
@tobewanad
@tobewanad Год назад
Could you please describe how you made the Walkability and Transportation indexes in more detail? Or perhaps could you provide a link to download your spreadsheet? Love your analysis and dry humor as always
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger Год назад
Japanese games and media popularized the S tier, it stands for すごい (Sugoi) meaning something like awesome, or "shuu" (秀) meaning excellent. But the S can mean superb, special, super or superior as well.
@neolithictransitrevolution427
I would love a deeper look at Miami. I've heard it's generally improving pretty rapidly and maybe has more towers being built than anyother US city. Alongside Bright line there seems to be some promose there.
@xoxxobob61
@xoxxobob61 Год назад
Miami now has a population density equal to Philadelphia at 12k people per sq. mile. It ranks 2nd. after NYC in skyscrapers over 500+ ft./ 152+ Meters tall under construction. Miami has also announced it is extending MetroRail to the Broward County line by 10 miles & extending Metro Mover to South Beach before the end of the decade. This place is booming!
@UserName-ts3sp
@UserName-ts3sp Год назад
it’s really dense because it has to be. can’t build too far into the swamps. but ya id love to see something about it
@edgeof60
@edgeof60 Год назад
Miami has a lot going for it but you can't have too much promise when the city is basically doomed by climate change.
@entropicnic6892
@entropicnic6892 Год назад
its not great urbanism though... all those towers emphasize parking podiums which kills walkability potential. Outside of downtown, there's nothing but the least connected suburbs one can ever see
@Highline17
@Highline17 Год назад
@@entropicnic6892 as someone who lives in Miami the urbanization is kinda terrible. Brickell is good but should be better considering it’s small size but high density. Biking and walking is practically suicidal, way too much car infrastructure. Underdeveloped metro system, and doesn’t extend any into suburbs/ nearby cities besides messy tri-rail/ solid bright line but it’s different.
@themanyouwanttobe
@themanyouwanttobe Год назад
Dang. I was kind of expecting Montreal to be on par or better than Vancouver. I guess I'm biased because I live outside Vancouver itself so I can see room for improvement.
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem 11 месяцев назад
As a San Antonian who can't drive (legally blind), I feel our placement so harshly. I've had to turn down multiple better jobs than my current one because they're outside the outer Loop, so I'd have to take an Uber to/from work every day, as well as get groceries delivered. There are places that are more walkable, especially as you get close to and inside 410, but man, so much of this city is a suburban wasteland of stroads and subdivided neighborhoods.
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Год назад
DC is unfortunately limited in the density it can have because Congress limits the height of buildings for “aesthetic” reasons. That means that the cost of buying property in the city to redevelop can’t be covered by building a tall building, so it ends up just not happening. But it is an extremely pleasant city with excellent amenities. And yes, it definitely has a surprising number of moments where you could mistake it for a European city. It’s interesting that the DOT (which via the FHA is arguably responsible for many of the worst excesses of car-centric urban planning) is easily metro accessible and in one of the most pedestrian-friendly areas imaginable.
@AnotherDuck
@AnotherDuck Год назад
European cities generally don't have all that much height, so there's a correlation there. There are tall buildings, but they're not nearly as common as in NA cities. Depending on what you mean by "tall", of course.
@Amaling
@Amaling 11 месяцев назад
Paris has the exact same thing legally, most of European cities are mid rise, most of Tokyo is mid rise or even two stories, you get the idea
@amarevanhook7453
@amarevanhook7453 10 месяцев назад
The metro and walkability here is amazing
@robhoch02
@robhoch02 10 месяцев назад
I personally like the limit on the height of buildings. I find most major cities to feel like claustrophobic concrete jungles, but DC isn't like that, due to shorter buildings, aesthetically pleasing architecture, and lots of green spaces.
@Anonymous-ju9bg
@Anonymous-ju9bg Год назад
Loved this video and think a tier series has great potential! Perhaps maybe you do this for all the continents and then at the end stack them up against each other?
@micosstar
@micosstar 8 месяцев назад
finally CityNerd, you getting some traction, last couple months you were around 100k, now you’re almost 200k; congrats! 🎉
@xtinafusco
@xtinafusco Год назад
My partner and i lived in NYC for 13yrs+ then moved to the suburbs assuming that was the financially sound thing to do when starting a family. We barely made it 2yrs before job hunting/apartment hunting again to move back!! It was hard at the time to articulate why we were miserable in the sprawl - but your videos have 100% shed light into what we were feeling. So happy to see NYC rated #1, lol, just validates all the hard work we put into moving back. Of course its expensive to raise a family here, but the freedom and access is unbeatable.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 11 месяцев назад
Where in NYC though. There is a big difference between the suburbia of Staten Island or the near suburbia of the Brooklyn and Queens outskirts and the high density of Manhattan. I agree with wanting to live in NYC vs LI these days. I grew up in Nassau County and frankly these days Nassau County is a depressing dump compared to Queens right next door. These days people that aren't fleeing NY for Florida or somewhere out west are fleeing Nassau county to go back into NYC.
@clamato54
@clamato54 Год назад
Moved from New York to Boston. They both have open streets days where certain key pedestrian-filled streets are closed to vehicle traffic for a few days in the summer, but the difference is if you go to Boston's webpage, directions on how to travel to "Open Streets" includes the nearest parking garage facilities, which deserves an F for just not getting the whole point of open streets
@drakes4625
@drakes4625 Год назад
I keep hearing people complaining about not enough parking in Boston, some parts of the city are now increasing parking spot minimums. No, thank you!
@TheAmericanCatholic
@TheAmericanCatholic Год назад
@@drakes4625 simple solutions all car brains don’t have a car and you won’t need to park it. Or just don’t bring your car go by bostons commuter rail or Amtrak.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Год назад
Real estate is valuable enough in Boston that they make multi level park houses, rather than street level parking lots. If they banned on-street parking, it would dramatically improve the city.
@curtiscarpenter1088
@curtiscarpenter1088 Год назад
@@JohnFromAccounting People in Southie would riot if they tried to ban on-street parking 😂
@AnotherDuck
@AnotherDuck Год назад
@@drakes4625 Parking spot minimums is one of the driving forces of not enough parking spots. All it does is force more people to take the car, which fills up attractive spaces faster than they build them while leaving a concrete wasteland everywhere else.
@redesignforall6577
@redesignforall6577 Год назад
In the 90s Toronto amalgamated with it's adjacent suburbs, and given that the Toronto scored likely includes the full amalgamated city, I'm not surprised to see it where it is. I wouldn't be surprised though, that if you took just Old Toronto, it would be at least a B tier. I could be wrong but I believe Canadian cities often include a larger geographic area than most US cities.
@brianmonroe7164
@brianmonroe7164 Год назад
LA is twice as large as TO, according to Wikipedia. of the cities in this video, Houston, Phoenix, and San Antonio are even larger than LA. so there is a wide range and it's hard to generalize too much.
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 Год назад
Vancouver is interesting because the city of Vancouver is so small geographically relative to the larger urban region called Metro Vancouver.
@redesignforall6577
@redesignforall6577 Год назад
@@brianmonroe7164 Good point! Either way, the way city boundaries are defined always has a big impact on these kinds of comparisons, but maybe not in the way I was thinking.
@alainouellet7794
@alainouellet7794 Год назад
Quite the opposite, TO just went full out suburbia. Montreal is the complete opposite. Really dense full of middle housing.
@RoyM-rq1nt
@RoyM-rq1nt Год назад
Vancouver above Chicago, Toronto, Philly, and Montreal blows my mind. Outside of downtown, Vancouver is pretty crap.... the transit system and walkability are massive steps down from the other cities in C tier.
@Mr___f
@Mr___f Год назад
I kind of agree but it does feel weird seeing Chicago with Philly but behind Washington DC. Chicago is just way easier to travel around compared to both and i feel like the walkability really only gets bad on the far edges. But even in the far edges public transit is widely available Probably something raw data cant account for though
@garyyang4961
@garyyang4961 Год назад
The methodology here tends to favor more narrowly defined limits. Chicago is 230 square miles compared to SF’s 50, but the densest SF-sized chunk of Chicago should compare quite favorably / possibly pull ahead. The Far South and West Sides weigh down Chicago in particular. (For many reasons historically which are too much to explain in 1 comment!)
@renaud_bt
@renaud_bt Год назад
Really surprised to see Toronto and Montreal in the same tier! As a daily Toronto cyclist/pedestrian/transit rider, I'm often appalled at how car-centric most of Toronto is and look on in envy at the bike and transit infrastructure in Montreal..
@RichardHartl
@RichardHartl Год назад
True although Toronto is improving, albeit slowly but steadily
@kelseyduerksen6404
@kelseyduerksen6404 Год назад
Montreal IS more walkable than Toronto. The walk score rating he used includes the suburbs like west island, which drags MTL's rating down, but a good chunk of the island is pretty accessible without having to own a car.
@renaud_bt
@renaud_bt Год назад
@@kelseyduerksen6404 ah yeah, that makes total sense! On the other side of the same token, Toronto was probably helped by this methodology, which excludes heavily car dependent areas in the GTA, such as Markham and Mississauga.
@dalehalliday3578
@dalehalliday3578 Год назад
@@renaud_bt North York is part of Toronto (even has multiple subway lines)
@stefslon
@stefslon Год назад
@@renaud_bt Toronto definitely not helped by this methodology--only Vancouver is of the Canadian cities (both MTL and TOR amalgamated to include their inner suburbs and all of their awful built forms)
@eelvis1674
@eelvis1674 Год назад
I think the advantage of a tier list over a straight ranking is it gives a bit more flexibility for individual taste and other factors which you haven't included in the rankings. Which may change the position of the thing being ranked in the eyes of some. Which is something I feel like you often mention anyway.
@TheGrades90
@TheGrades90 8 месяцев назад
Been living in New York for twelve years, and I so often take MTA for granted. There are some annoying things about it, but any time I go to another city and use their transit, I'm reminded of just how consistent and reliable NYC's public transit is. It's like having a far cheaper car, money-wise, that essentially functions the exact same way in the city. It's that convenient.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 4 месяца назад
My biggest culture shock when moving from NYC to the "normal" USA was that you can't just go to a bus/transit stop and wait, you actually have to Google it and plan the route. It was wild.
@ethanwatt-dz3xq
@ethanwatt-dz3xq Год назад
Putting Vancouver above Toronto and Montreal runs the real risk of starting a war in the comments. Trust me, the last thing we vancouverites need is bigger egos
@paintkiller93
@paintkiller93 Год назад
I wasn't expecting much for LA but you rated it higher than I did. While the metro system is having some issues right now, it is expanding and I think most of us want to move away from suburbanization.
@angellacanfora
@angellacanfora Год назад
I'm in Torrance and would put it at level G. 😂
@brianmiller5444
@brianmiller5444 Год назад
except in Culver City
@angellacanfora
@angellacanfora Год назад
@@brianmiller5444 😥I'm wondering if CC's latest actions have anything to do with the big oil field underneath it.
@andrewdunlap2034
@andrewdunlap2034 Год назад
I'll take SF being A tier. It's decently walkable, transit is regular and reliable, and they're making a lot of improvements to BART and MUNI. I am looking forward to it being properly connected to the Central Valley though and the implementation of the HSR that's finally being built. Currently, I'd need to ride the Capital Cooridor rail if I wanted to get to SF car free, but it just adds so much unnecessary time to the commute, it feels counter productive. At the moment I drive to Antioch and ride BART all the way to Daly City for school, it's a pain, but it's doable.
@themontu7066
@themontu7066 Год назад
Idk, I’ve lived in SF, Seattle, DC and now Philadelphia and Philly is by far the most walkable, easiest to get around city of the four. It’s not just how much transit there is or bike infrastructure, but also how close neighborhoods that you want to be are to each other, and how friendly folks are to bike/side streets that act as bike lanes because they’re so small. That last part is also _very_ European (I lived in Sweden for two years, as well, so I have something tangible to compare it to). It’s just super easy to get around Philly if you’re a cyclist or walker because all the walkable neighborhoods are strung together, so you can easily go from one to another. Our public transit isn’t great but it does seem to get you where you want to be pretty easily, too. All of this is so different than SF, Seattle and DC, where many of the neighborhoods are isolated from each other (SF is a lot more connected than the others, and has great public transportation with hands down, bare-none, the best public transportation map that has ever been created). From an actual user’s perspective vs. data perspective, Philly does deserve to be a lot higher on the list… says the data scientist lol. And I’ll be the first to admit that data isn’t everything.
@majorsynthqed7374
@majorsynthqed7374 10 месяцев назад
I'm assuming you don't live in North Philly or West Philly.
@thekevinfoster
@thekevinfoster Год назад
What about a video on dense, urbanist cities that have access to nature nearby? Might be hard. Maybe good green space? Also wondering if there are any good solutions to wanting to be car free but go hiking/camping/skiing frequently?
@deanchapman1824
@deanchapman1824 10 месяцев назад
You can take Metro North out of Grand Central on the Hudson Line. Season Breakneck station stops right by the mountain for excellent hiking. Take it to Poughkeepsie, and there's the Walkway Over the Hudson. That has a network of trails over 30 miles.
@basoon87
@basoon87 Год назад
I can live with an E for Baltimore, our transit in particular feels pretty lack luster. But if you include "affordability" as one of your metrics, I think a lot of these expected high tier cities start sagging down in the ranks, while places like Baltimore and Detroit start looking more competitive. Despite its reputation, Baltimore has some really nice, affordable, and walkable neighborhoods that, if you found them in other cities, most people would be completely priced out of, but are pretty reasonable here.
@rook1196
@rook1196 Год назад
Baltimore is the most affordable city on I-95 from NoVa to Boston. Its just hard for the city to compete w/ the metro area. Suburbs suck but Baltimore Metro does them about as well as you could possibly wish for in this country. Not to mention places like Columbia, Catonsville to their credit haven't drowned affordable housing in the bathtub.
@kenzothecornishTV
@kenzothecornishTV Год назад
B'More should bring back it's trams, you can see the used to run exactly where you want trams
@WHYOSHO
@WHYOSHO Год назад
Baltimore also is very dangerous and has some awful gritty look to it. Sunbelt by far is better
@basoon87
@basoon87 Год назад
@@WHYOSHO Have you ever been? Or are you basing that on The Wire? I've lived in the city proper for over 13 years, car less the whole time, so I walk and take public transit frequently, and I have never personally felt like I was ever in any danger. Other than from people driving like idiots in some pedestrian unfriendly areas while I'm walking, that is.
@_mazarico_
@_mazarico_ Год назад
@@WHYOSHO Lol, no. Sunbelt cities are hell. Baltimore is bad but I never wan't to live in Houston and be stuck in it's traffic again.
@blackdunes1
@blackdunes1 Год назад
It'd be cool to see a Top 10 video of US cities of any size that have invested the most resources and efforts over the past 20-30 years into density/transit and away from car dependency, whether or not the efforts have been noticed by their populace. I know you said in a previous "most improved" video something akin to, "If people are still driving, does it really matter what the city has done?" but it'd still be nice to see which cities are really trying 🥲(maybe they just need a signal boost!) and whether the results contrast with cities whose numbers have actually improved.
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Год назад
It would be interesting to see a video where NYC got a dishonorable mention. DC’s done the Silver Line and Potomac Yards, which amounts to 13 new stations. New York managed 3.
@Geotpf
@Geotpf Год назад
Most improved has to be Los Angeles. Remember, before 1990 they literally had zero rail transit. Zero. Now they have seven commuter rail lines (Metrolink), five light rail lines (six if you count ARROW), and two heavy rail subway lines. They also have about a dozen rail transit projects currently under active construction, plus dozens more in various forms of planning. And funding is guaranteed, at least in Los Angeles County, due a part of the sales tax going straight to transit.
@deanchapman1824
@deanchapman1824 10 месяцев назад
@michaelimbesi2314 much harder to do in NYC because of the density. But if there's a will, there's a way.
@marknoviski1257
@marknoviski1257 Год назад
I love that you commented on Mexico City walkability. It has really great transit and outstanding mixed land use, yet zero respect for pedestrians. More drivers yielded for me in Orlando than in CDMX. Perhaps it's a difference in the law, but it was pretty shocking coming from the other A-tier city (SF).
@dixonhill1108
@dixonhill1108 Год назад
I think pollution and traffic noise is known to be a problem too. Walking isn't great if you don't want to do it.
@bubbabawllz9067
@bubbabawllz9067 11 месяцев назад
Watching your channel has made me appreciate my own little city of Malmö, Sweden a lot more; we take so much for granted. Kudos!
@leopoldleoleo
@leopoldleoleo Год назад
I guess numbers don’t lie, but this list kinda surprised me by how it differs from my experience. Having lived in SF, Van, and Montreal I’d almost invert your ranking for those 3. I literally moved from Van to MTL in part for the better urbanism. Montreal should be A tier, SF B, Van C
@tristanridley1601
@tristanridley1601 Год назад
He needs to do a new tier list for "how big is the urbanist zone" in each city. The Montreal urban area includes Laval and Mirabel, so now you see why it falls short? Vancouver's suburbs are cut off by borders, mountains, and oceans, so can't drag them down as much.
@_SpamMe
@_SpamMe Год назад
I'd say that sprawl doesn't really affect you personally if you don't live in any of the "sprawl" areas. From the personal experience perspective, it probably matters more how good the "city core" is.
@leopoldleoleo
@leopoldleoleo Год назад
@@tristanridley1601 I wonder what boundaries were used then. Because SF would also likely not place so high if it’s suburbs were included in the same way that the MTL on-island suburbs are. And yeah I like the idea of a ‘size of urbanist zone’ comparison. Montreal’s is probably larger than almost every city except nyc and cdmx Edit: “the central city of the metro area” seems to be the criteria, and that probably has a significant distortion effect
@zakkabuuz
@zakkabuuz Год назад
Strong agree with Montreal. Beautiful place.
@pierolivierpc
@pierolivierpc Год назад
def agree, youtuber think vancouver is great but its actually pretty bad outside of downtown and that one skytrain line. As for montreal its also heavily area dependant and not all neighborhoods are walkable. When you he says "areas over 2.5m" that means he has to include suburbs to montreal so the entire thing turn outside down. I'd argue only part of montreal island itself is urbanism friendly
@JuanWayTrips
@JuanWayTrips Год назад
5:44 I am no expert, but I am pretty sure you used an image for Detroit instead of Denver lol Also, as someone who lives in LA and commutes with LA Metro, I am surprised we were not in the F or SunBelt tier!
@angellacanfora
@angellacanfora Год назад
Is the Metro as bad as recent press has been making it out to be? I live in Torrance, recently went car-free and am dying to to take some Metro excursions but am not interested in being stabbed!
@zen1647
@zen1647 Год назад
It says a lot when you need an expert to differentiate pictures of cities. Bland is bland.
@matthewbarba3166
@matthewbarba3166 Год назад
@@angellacanfora It isn't nearly as bad as what media portrays it as, but as someone who uses metro a few times a week, I would at least suggest to be somewhat aware of your surroundings
@tapplek
@tapplek Год назад
the fact that it even has a metro would rank it higher than average
@JuanWayTrips
@JuanWayTrips Год назад
@@angellacanfora My experience is with the Gold Line, which is generally one of the "better" lines. That said, I am a bigger dude so that might help with my experience. But in general, I don't listen to music or podcasts on the Metro because I like to be aware of my surroundings. Additionally, I generally avoid riding after 8 or 9pm, as the frequency is worse and generally the crowds aren't as great. I still do it, but I definitely am way more aware of my surroundings. It's terrible what has been happening on some of the trains and at some of the stations, but note that 99% of your rides are going to be uneventful. At the very least, I have a 10-minute walk from my light rail station to my apartment, so I have time to decompress if/when I have a bad commute with Metro, which I don't get while driving. I would argue that taking Metro daily is still safer than driving daily.
@TheBestMCScavenger
@TheBestMCScavenger Год назад
The tier-list angle got the algorithm to recommend the video! glad I found your channel
@erickvieyra7187
@erickvieyra7187 Год назад
I'm from Mexico City, I currently live in San Diego (and I used to live in Houston). I couldn't agree more with this list!
@harry12
@harry12 Год назад
sd's tier is low imo. I really believe sd's public transit is def better than puebla... even visiting angelopolis is a pain in the ass without a car, let alone other parts of the city. sd's trolley is not perfect, but it gets you to a decent number of places.
@MarzGurl
@MarzGurl Год назад
As a former San Antonio resident, San Antonio being under Sun Belt is incredibly accurate. Sure, there's a bus system, but whether or not it shows up on time, or even shows up at all, is a gamble every time you decide to take the bus. They break down all the time, or simply don't show up. You can't have a job if you don't have a car. Lots of places won't hire you if you tell them, "I'll just take the bus to get to work," because everybody knows how unreliable the Via bus system is.
@OscarGarcia-so9bd
@OscarGarcia-so9bd Год назад
that and barely any rail (just an occasional Amtrak line to Dallas IIRC), let alone protected bike lanes or sidewalks outside of city limits
@jamesrh9193
@jamesrh9193 Год назад
Agreed to all of this. I lived near SA Airport and worked down near what's left of Brooks AFB and dreaded my commute everyday. I really upset a lot of people when I said that after moving from Albuquerque, I liked that city's food much better (and it's transit options). As someone who grew up in NJ just outside of NYC, and has lived for the past decade in Remember the Titans land just outside of DC, the differences are stark, but makes this list quite accurate.
@matthewconstantine5015
@matthewconstantine5015 Год назад
I was surprised to see D.C. so high, but also happy. Living in the DMV region can be frustrating, but it is good to sometimes sit back and be reminded that, at least by North American standards, it's not so awful. And D.C. in particular, in spite of a lot of NIMBY pushback, is making some real progress. It still needs to do a lot more to cut down on suburban car commuters...a LOT more. But progress is happening.
@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly
As a fellow DMV-er, I think part of the reason DC ranks so high is because a lot of the antiurbanist shenanigans of the DMV is Maryland and Virginia suburbs. That being said we do have one of the best subway systems in North America and there are lots of very nice walkable parts of DC places like Barracks row, Capitol Hill, Union market, NoMa, the Wharf all stand out as nice mixed use areas. On his point about densification though, I wonder how much can be done with the height limits... in which case places like Alexandria and Rosslyn will continue their upward (excuse the pun) trajectory.
@matthewconstantine5015
@matthewconstantine5015 Год назад
@@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly Sadly, I live out in the suburbs and yeah...not great. But watching the firestorm going down around the Connecticut Ave. bike lanes has reminded me that NIMBYs aren't only a suburban thing. I think the height limit is a factor, but honestly don't think it's enough of one to really stop things. There's still a lot of height available in the city. And a lot of wasted space, with parking garages & the like. Not to mention empty office buildings. Plus, if they'd get better at integrating transit & walkability with the suburbs, it could help. When I worked in downtown, it was a 60 to 120 minute trip by bus & Metro, even though I only live 20 miles from the city center. Early in the pandemic, I could do the trip in 15 minutes (we're normally car-free, but had one for a couple months for reasons). I do love Metro, even if it can be super stress inducing, because its service outside of the Beltway is pretty bad & its integration with Metro Bus and other bus services is atrocious. Still, Randy Clarke has impressed me so far. If he can do half of what he's trying to do, things should get a lot better.
@treyshaffer
@treyshaffer Год назад
​@@matthewconstantine5015 Something that I'm proud of DC for is the amount of housing we build. Sure, most of it is luxury stuff, but it actually has helped control costs pretty well. Look at condo prices over the last 15 years and they've been pretty flat despite some modest growth in the city. And, even though rent is high, our average incomes are literally some of the highest in the world (looking at you Loudoun county) so it's actually not that bad compared to other more urbanist places like SF and NYC all things considered
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Год назад
We’re doing our part over in Arlington! We’re pretty dense and walkable and managed to get rid of single family zoning
@angellacanfora
@angellacanfora Год назад
@@michaelimbesi2314 Wow, that's huge! Former resident of Westover here. But aren't the lot sizes pretty small? Are they thinking ADU's or more like teardown and throw up townhouses?
@austinoaks3062
@austinoaks3062 Год назад
You should do a video on the best subways/Metros in Europe and why they are so good. I think that would be an interesting video to watch given your background.
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